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New Restrictions:-
Hospitality
Dec 7th - Jan 9th
Table Service ionly
6 per table
No multiple table bookings
1 metre between tables
Masks when moving
Midnight closings Clubs closed
House visits Max of 4 households in private hhome's
January lockdown is on the cards ffs |
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By *DSGCouple
over a year ago
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Unfortunately I'm Not surprised, and to be honest I'm Stunned and more than a little disgusted it's taken them so f ing long to do something. And as long as they keep telling places what to do but dont enforce it, things will not improve. And in case you're wondering, yes I AM sick & tired of it, but it's where we are. |
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over a year ago
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We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check  |
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Dont know why people are so surprised by this i said months ago it would happen and i was laughed at same will happen up north noone is enforcing the rules so there fore cases are going up and up if i can wear a face mazk for a 12hr shift everyobe should be able to wear thrm for the short time thry are on public transport or in the supermarket i am sick to death of the amount of school ones that get on my bus in the mornings and wont wear them i got on a train last week had no choice and it was standing room only definetly overcrowded and over half werent wearing masks yet they kept putting out announcements thT you had to when i complained the train conductor just shrugged his shoulders and said not my problem love i cant make them shops eont say anything because thry want you in spemding your money a full lockdown is coming in jan folks get ready |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dont know why people are so surprised by this i said months ago it would happen and i was laughed at same will happen up north noone is enforcing the rules so there fore cases are going up and up if i can wear a face mazk for a 12hr shift everyobe should be able to wear thrm for the short time thry are on public transport or in the supermarket i am sick to death of the amount of school ones that get on my bus in the mornings and wont wear them i got on a train last week had no choice and it was standing room only definetly overcrowded and over half werent wearing masks yet they kept putting out announcements thT you had to when i complained the train conductor just shrugged his shoulders and said not my problem love i cant make them shops eont say anything because thry want you in spemding your money a full lockdown is coming in jan folks get ready "
You are on the ball there, near impossible to avoid now. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
South Dublin Area |
"We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check "
Its got nothing to do with schools been open. |
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People ust need to stop being selfish idiots and buisinesses need to be more forceful and stop being greedy we are all fed up with it but if we all make the effort together we can get back to normal im going babysitting this weekend rather than going to a party or a club others need to think as well |
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It has everyrhing to do with schools being open its among school age kids that most cases are happening what primary school kid wears a mask or washes there hands and its the young ones who arent geyting vaccinated |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check
Its got nothing to do with schools been open. "
Ok so why are 3rd year up having to wear masks?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check
Its got nothing to do with schools been open.
Ok so why are 3rd year up having to wear masks??"
Cause someone said they should.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People are definitely getting more blasé about Covid. I got a message asking to meet recently I replied politely I had symptoms and was waiting for Covid test to be on safe side. He replied with a dick picture asking would that change my mind about going over to meet him ffs! Thankfully I didn't have it but he was more than happy to take the risk. |
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When covid hit our merry island in March 2019, kids was the carriers and schools shut. Then schools reopened, secondary schools have been wearing masks since return of school after first lockdown.
Younger kids don’t social distance they play hug fight you name it (doing kids things )
Cases are high in the under 11 yr age bracket.
They shouldn’t of stopped contract tracing in the schools the amount of kids in my area that have had the virus is shocking. One time kids was the carriers then schools was safe now it’s the highest age under 11s with covid. Can’t blame the kids or the schools it’s down to the government |
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By *asual777Man
over a year ago
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"People are definitely getting more blasé about Covid. I got a message asking to meet recently I replied politely I had symptoms and was waiting for Covid test to be on safe side. He replied with a dick picture asking would that change my mind about going over to meet him ffs! Thankfully I didn't have it but he was more than happy to take the risk. "
I suspect he thought ‘I am young , and don’t have the risk factors or underlying conditions, so it ll be a mild cold and worth it ‘, but it might not be , it might be a long version , and even if it isn’t it’s much more infectious than the cold and will hit those with the risk factors around him far harder |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
"When covid hit our merry island in March 2019, kids was the carriers and schools shut. Then schools reopened, secondary schools have been wearing masks since return of school after first lockdown.
Younger kids don’t social distance they play hug fight you name it (doing kids things )
Cases are high in the under 11 yr age bracket.
They shouldn’t of stopped contract tracing in the schools the amount of kids in my area that have had the virus is shocking. One time kids was the carriers then schools was safe now it’s the highest age under 11s with covid. Can’t blame the kids or the schools it’s down to the government "
Agreed.
Contact tracing and mask wearing essential across whole society, no age limit shite.
Virus is indescriminate, so we need to be same  |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check
Its got nothing to do with schools been open.
Ok so why are 3rd year up having to wear masks??"
I was being sarcastic. Its rampant in schools.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Dont know why people are so surprised by this i said months ago it would happen and i was laughed at same will happen up north noone is enforcing the rules so there fore cases are going up and up if i can wear a face mazk for a 12hr shift everyobe should be able to wear thrm for the short time thry are on public transport or in the supermarket i am sick to death of the amount of school ones that get on my bus in the mornings and wont wear them i got on a train last week had no choice and it was standing room only definetly overcrowded and over half werent wearing masks yet they kept putting out announcements thT you had to when i complained the train conductor just shrugged his shoulders and said not my problem love i cant make them shops eont say anything because thry want you in spemding your money a full lockdown is coming in jan folks get ready "
All well and good saying about businesses but there's no way in hell would I put any of my staff in a position to be abused and potentially assaulted by anti maskers and yes I've already been assaulted just after the last lockdown by non mask wearing shits in my previous workplace. So it's not about greed it's keeping staff from being abused |
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I've been on board so far with the restrictions... but I'm struggling to understand this one.
1)Numbers aren't increasing
2)We aren't seeing loads of deaths
3)The new variant is already here and we won't keep it out regardless
I'm entirely unconvinced that these new restrictions are necessary |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I've been on board so far with the restrictions... but I'm struggling to understand this one.
1)Numbers aren't increasing
2)We aren't seeing loads of deaths
3)The new variant is already here and we won't keep it out regardless
I'm entirely unconvinced that these new restrictions are necessary"
Please stop talking sense 
30 times less likely to end up in ICU than this time last year.
Government data announced on Wednesday wtf do they want from people at this stage. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've been on board so far with the restrictions... but I'm struggling to understand this one.
1)Numbers aren't increasing
2)We aren't seeing loads of deaths
3)The new variant is already here and we won't keep it out regardless
I'm entirely unconvinced that these new restrictions are necessary"
I think their trying to be cautious with the new variant in circulation and the fact not much is yet known about (ie will the vaccine counter it etc) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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About time, I'm off to the protest to day in Cork at 12. Not an antivaxers as I'm vaxed but ours kids won't be getting it. These restrictions are ridiculous at this stage like a benny hill film.
94% vaccinated
21 months of restrictions/ unlike our neighbours England.
No increase in ICU beds ( population our size we should have 1000 beds)
New strain is quicker at spreading but milder so that's a good thing.
I don't agree with discrimination against fellow citizens or the fact we need to show ids with passes to access society.
This won't end till the people wake up. We need to learn to live with covid |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
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This month is arguably the busiest month for socialising. A month of unlimited social interaction would put us in a horrible position in January.
I'd much prefer to see nearly everything remain open with limits then most things closed.
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In this situation I dunno what’s right or wrong anymore. Is the government doing the right thing being extra cautious with new variant.
Have they jumped ship too quick and gone in with restrictions, that might not be necessary.
Covid is bad I’ve seen family members friends going through covid and extended family friends have died from it. But covid isn’t the only killer this pandemic has had to suffer with. Mental health is going through the roof even in younger kids people in hospitality less than a mouth before Xmas have been laid off again and had hours reduced . Choosing what household to visit this year and who can come to you. I’m not sure now whatthe answer is whatever way the wind blows this is shite |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's because they are next to get rolled out for the vaccine.which I don't agree with, more risk for children from the vaccine than covid. It's just like a bad head cold for most. Plus the vaccine doesn't stop transmission so kids would be better off getting it and gaining natural immunity than the a vaccine which we know little about. But before ye call me an antivax, I'm not I'm just anti covid jabs for kids and these covid passes. The vaccine was needed for the elderly and vulnerable and obese as it reduced the death rates for this category. But after that it's freedom of choice. The government would have been better off increasing the icu beds. As we have a much worse crisis coming down the line with,
missed cancer screenings,
waiting lists approaching 1 million
Suicides gone up,
Personal debt increasing,
Cancelled surgeries
Doctors refusing to see people in certain practices unless they go for a covid test (prolonging minor illness)
So I'll ask the forum when is the right time to go back to normal and just accept covid is here to stay and we need to live with it
"We are all sick and tired of it now. But as long as people ignore the problem then linger it goes on. It was absolutely ridiculous what was goin on in Killarney last weekend. Pubs amd clubs packed, no covid checks or anything. My mate is a doorman and was warned to just let them in without a check
Its got nothing to do with schools been open.
Ok so why are 3rd year up having to wear masks??"
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As of now you can no longer go to a gym or bar in hotel without a cert, but there is no problem with me sitting on a packed bus or train, and I can sit at a bar in a hotel as long as it's a wedding. I know of over 30 people who got covid at a wedding a few weeks ago, but I have not heard of any out breaks in a gym. Absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best. "
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
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But RTE is the virus..
They can turn off the telly while they sit at home |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
But RTE is the virus..
They can turn off the telly while they sit at home "
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
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What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service. |
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service. "
The health services is in shit every winter, now all of a sudden we have covid everything must stop. Give your head a shake man, hospital numbers are falling icu numbers are falling, iriah people can't be held accountable for the governments fuck ups, 21 months with no end in sight |
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Governments have been warned since 2000 that our icu capacity is too small and now we have this shit show.. If icu capacity was adequate then we wouldn't have restrictions.. Businesses would be thriving.. Ignorance from previous governments have led us where we are now.. |
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By *oserMan
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service.
The health services is in shit every winter, now all of a sudden we have covid everything must stop. Give your head a shake man, hospital numbers are falling icu numbers are falling, iriah people can't be held accountable for the governments fuck ups, 21 months with no end in sight"
The government are not giving people Covid! It is killing people!
In fairness to them they are trying to stop the spread.
Don't get me wrong I can't stand the fookers but what do they do?
Let us just abandon all safety measures? I don't enjoy them but whats the alternative? |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service.
The health services is in shit every winter, now all of a sudden we have covid everything must stop. Give your head a shake man, hospital numbers are falling icu numbers are falling, iriah people can't be held accountable for the governments fuck ups, 21 months with no end in sight"
The health service was in shit because people had to wait on a trolley in the in the corridor to get treated. Now they aren't getting treated at all. I know which scenario I'd prefer.
Hospital numbers are falling because of the restrictions. We can't constantly have 500+ on hospitals with Covid all year round.
We need a solution. Lifting all restrictions and letting the unvaccinated haslve zero consequences from their decisions isn't it.
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Shame, after you all let them inject you so you could have your sex parties out in the open, will have to go back to having them in secret.
Oh well, just put masks on your kids and let them inject your kids. Can't complain after supporting people with no vaccine certs be excluded from society. Can you? |
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"We need a solution. Lifting all restrictions and letting the unvaccinated haslve zero consequences from their decisions isn't it.
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But is the consequences from their decision not sickness and death? Zero consequences is true for a lot of them, like they won't even get sick if they catch covid. But some will have consequences.
But so what if they do, I don't drink but every weekend the hospital fills up with avoidable injuries and deaths because of drink, not to mention liver and long term problems. What about smoking? I don't smoke and the hospital is full of copd and cancer patients?
I don't begrudge these people. So why should I begrudge people who decide the vaccine is not for them. The consequence for them is they might die. Most are not going to burden the HSE, and the burden is largely because the HSE has been underfunded for years. Why blame sick people for that.
The head of the HSE came out and said it was unacceptable for people with avoidable sickness to take up hospital places, so he shares your opinion, but he even believes that about people like Vicky Phelan who is dying an avoidable death caused by the HSE. He believes it should just not be investigated and the HSE should step back etc. His job does not require compassion, sympathy, or empathy, but a ruthless streak to run the HSE as cheaply as possible, to manage it so it is as cheap as possible. Not to think deeply about people who die on the operating table or who got cancer from smoking and how he can insure they have the most.comoassionate understanding treatment possible. Them kind of conversations are not happening in nephet because there is no group attached to them that is told to consider the moral consequences. This is the kind of stance you would expect a bishop or whatnot to take. It was the job of the sister on the ward to try and get you compassion, not the staff nurse.
But if you were to suggest that the Catholic church be called in to add morality to lockdowns on funerals, weddings, and wider community lockdowns then you'd be cut off from the internet forever. Even though they would represent the most vulnerable better than anyone in govt can, the elderly who are of an age where the church is still important.
But by all means continue to be angry at what, 6% of the population? And angrily demand they don't be treated and face consequences for doing what they thought was best for them..
You'd think a site where HIV positive people on prep attend sex parties would have more compassion for people's right to decide these things on a personal level.
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"We need a solution. Lifting all restrictions and letting the unvaccinated haslve zero consequences from their decisions isn't it.
But is the consequences from their decision not sickness and death? Zero consequences is true for a lot of them, like they won't even get sick if they catch covid. But some will have consequences.
But so what if they do, I don't drink but every weekend the hospital fills up with avoidable injuries and deaths because of drink, not to mention liver and long term problems. What about smoking? I don't smoke and the hospital is full of copd and cancer patients?
I don't begrudge these people. So why should I begrudge people who decide the vaccine is not for them. The consequence for them is they might die. Most are not going to burden the HSE, and the burden is largely because the HSE has been underfunded for years. Why blame sick people for that.
The head of the HSE came out and said it was unacceptable for people with avoidable sickness to take up hospital places, so he shares your opinion, but he even believes that about people like Vicky Phelan who is dying an avoidable death caused by the HSE. He believes it should just not be investigated and the HSE should step back etc. His job does not require compassion, sympathy, or empathy, but a ruthless streak to run the HSE as cheaply as possible, to manage it so it is as cheap as possible. Not to think deeply about people who die on the operating table or who got cancer from smoking and how he can insure they have the most.comoassionate understanding treatment possible. Them kind of conversations are not happening in nephet because there is no group attached to them that is told to consider the moral consequences. This is the kind of stance you would expect a bishop or whatnot to take. It was the job of the sister on the ward to try and get you compassion, not the staff nurse.
But if you were to suggest that the Catholic church be called in to add morality to lockdowns on funerals, weddings, and wider community lockdowns then you'd be cut off from the internet forever. Even though they would represent the most vulnerable better than anyone in govt can, the elderly who are of an age where the church is still important.
But by all means continue to be angry at what, 6% of the population? And angrily demand they don't be treated and face consequences for doing what they thought was best for them..
You'd think a site where HIV positive people on prep attend sex parties would have more compassion for people's right to decide these things on a personal level.
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By *lameBoyMan
over a year ago
Enfield & Dublin |
"In this situation I dunno what’s right or wrong anymore. Is the government doing the right thing being extra cautious with new variant.
Have they jumped ship too quick and gone in with restrictions, that might not be necessary.
Covid is bad I’ve seen family members friends going through covid and extended family friends have died from it. But covid isn’t the only killer this pandemic has had to suffer with. Mental health is going through the roof even in younger kids people in hospitality less than a mouth before Xmas have been laid off again and had hours reduced . Choosing what household to visit this year and who can come to you. I’m not sure now whatthe answer is whatever way the wind blows this is shite "
Absolutely spot on. It’s so hard to know what’s right or wrong at this stage. A touch of honesty from the government would help an awful lot.
I often think about the nurses and doctors who returned to Ireland to “put their shoulder to the wheel” as they were asked and then not employed!!!!
Overworked nurses having to pay a registration fee annually for the privilege of helping???
Underperforming politicians taking pay rise after pay rise !!!
Methinks the country is being run by clever fools! |
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"Shame, after you all let them inject you so you could have your sex parties out in the open, will have to go back to having them in secret.
Oh well, just put masks on your kids and let them inject your kids. Can't complain after supporting people with no vaccine certs be excluded from society. Can you? "
Who’s them?
The lizard people? Satanic Paedophiles? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service.
The health services is in shit every winter, now all of a sudden we have covid everything must stop. Give your head a shake man, hospital numbers are falling icu numbers are falling, iriah people can't be held accountable for the governments fuck ups, 21 months with no end in sight
The government are not giving people Covid! It is killing people!
In fairness to them they are trying to stop the spread.
Don't get me wrong I can't stand the fookers but what do they do?
Let us just abandon all safety measures? I don't enjoy them but whats the alternative?"
Well we open everything up for starters, those who need the vaccine and the boosters (how many we don't know) should take them.
If you have an underlying health issues you take the precautions we have been taken all along. Herd immunity will help big time also. Increasing the icu beds is a must instead of spending millions on rte and virgin media as well a radio putting out these pointless media campaigns. I'd scrap nephet also and bring in fresh people, virologist that actually still work in their field, economist also, as its the same people that are in charge now who were in charge when the swine flu jab was signed off even tho they were advised not to by the French and Italian counter parts, same people in charge that blacked mailed the women involved in the cervical smear scandal. We need to follow the Swedish approach, they were laughed at at the start, now they have one of the lowest death and infection rates in Europe. Put it this way if we keep shutting things down its going to screw the economy, if the economy suffers so does everything else, health care, education, mental health, people's lively hoods etc. It's time we learned to live with covid. |
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Herd immunity doesn't work with covid.. Blue in the face saying it now.. If it did work then people wouldn't be getting reinfected.. would they.. Covid will kill all of us eventually.. Sad truth is middle aged and young people of today won't make it to old age even with vaccination.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One solution that would really help is if people who aren't vaccainted are refused medical treatment if they catch it and they simply told to treat themselves at home and hope for the best.
This comment just sums up what's wrong with society today.
What's wrong with society is that people think we should lift all the restrictions and go back to having a normal life and that won't have any impact on the health service.
The health services is in shit every winter, now all of a sudden we have covid everything must stop. Give your head a shake man, hospital numbers are falling icu numbers are falling, iriah people can't be held accountable for the governments fuck ups, 21 months with no end in sight
The government are not giving people Covid! It is killing people!
In fairness to them they are trying to stop the spread.
Don't get me wrong I can't stand the fookers but what do they do?
Let us just abandon all safety measures? I don't enjoy them but whats the alternative?
Well we open everything up for starters, those who need the vaccine and the boosters (how many we don't know) should take them.
If you have an underlying health issues you take the precautions we have been taken all along. Herd immunity will help big time also. Increasing the icu beds is a must instead of spending millions on rte and virgin media as well a radio putting out these pointless media campaigns. I'd scrap nephet also and bring in fresh people, virologist that actually still work in their field, economist also, as its the same people that are in charge now who were in charge when the swine flu jab was signed off even tho they were advised not to by the French and Italian counter parts, same people in charge that blacked mailed the women involved in the cervical smear scandal. We need to follow the Swedish approach, they were laughed at at the start, now they have one of the lowest death and infection rates in Europe. Put it this way if we keep shutting things down its going to screw the economy, if the economy suffers so does everything else, health care, education, mental health, people's lively hoods etc. It's time we learned to live with covid."
Follow Sweden? Are you for real? Over 15,000 deaths and they ended up with a lockdown in the end anyway? Most cases out of that whole region of the world. What clowns have you been listening to at all? |
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Might get some stick for this... Does it really matter anymore... We can lockdown and open and lockdiwn and open up... This virus is probably never going to go away. But surely life cannot keep going on in a lockdown open up scenario. Especially for people who work in tbe most affected industries. I personally feel the govt has acted way to slowly on boosters. Some people who were first vaccinated back in April still haven't received a booster... Complete waste of time at this stage. Looks like a booster every 3-4 months may be what's required until there is better medication available. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Everyone has an opinion.
I saw some Asian people in Schipol Airport, dressed up like the forensic team at a murder scene. I laughed, then I remembered I used to laugh at them wearing masks, now we all wear masks. I'd take any vaccine they offered if it meant I could do as I wish again.
I see these restrictions like the speed limit, I'll follow it where I have too and I'll decide that myself, I'll take educated calculated risks and I couldn't care less what anyone else says of this because its my choice. I have taken this approach since the beginning, have had over 16 negative tests, taken my two vaccinations and will take the booster when offered.
As for another lockdown doing anything, would you stop, how do you leave the house for fear of getting hit by lightning or a bus? |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
"We need a solution. Lifting all restrictions and letting the unvaccinated haslve zero consequences from their decisions isn't it.
But is the consequences from their decision not sickness and death? Zero consequences is true for a lot of them, like they won't even get sick if they catch covid. But some will have consequences.
But so what if they do, I don't drink but every weekend the hospital fills up with avoidable injuries and deaths because of drink, not to mention liver and long term problems. What about smoking? I don't smoke and the hospital is full of copd and cancer patients?
I don't begrudge these people. So why should I begrudge people who decide the vaccine is not for them. The consequence for them is they might die. Most are not going to burden the HSE, and the burden is largely because the HSE has been underfunded for years. Why blame sick people for that.
The head of the HSE came out and said it was unacceptable for people with avoidable sickness to take up hospital places, so he shares your opinion, but he even believes that about people like Vicky Phelan who is dying an avoidable death caused by the HSE. He believes it should just not be investigated and the HSE should step back etc. His job does not require compassion, sympathy, or empathy, but a ruthless streak to run the HSE as cheaply as possible, to manage it so it is as cheap as possible. Not to think deeply about people who die on the operating table or who got cancer from smoking and how he can insure they have the most.comoassionate understanding treatment possible. Them kind of conversations are not happening in nephet because there is no group attached to them that is told to consider the moral consequences. This is the kind of stance you would expect a bishop or whatnot to take. It was the job of the sister on the ward to try and get you compassion, not the staff nurse.
But if you were to suggest that the Catholic church be called in to add morality to lockdowns on funerals, weddings, and wider community lockdowns then you'd be cut off from the internet forever. Even though they would represent the most vulnerable better than anyone in govt can, the elderly who are of an age where the church is still important.
But by all means continue to be angry at what, 6% of the population? And angrily demand they don't be treated and face consequences for doing what they thought was best for them..
You'd think a site where HIV positive people on prep attend sex parties would have more compassion for people's right to decide these things on a personal level.
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The consequence of their decision is also sickness and death for other people because they can't access proper medical care because hospitals are full.
The reality there are very few options when in this situation
1. Open things up and let the virus run wild and accept that people will die, like sweden did and other countries. But you still end up with packed hospitals
2. Keep opening/locking down as the hospital numbers dictate
3. Refuse to treat unvaccinated people/let them pay for their own treatment privately.
4. Refuse treatment to anyone with Covid and let them pay for their own privately.
Personally I'd always pick the second option, it is the most compassionate choice. I'm willing to take a risk with getting the vaccaines because I think it's morally the right thing to do, not just for me but for society. I'm willing to go through lockdowns and restrictions because I think that will save the most lives.
The unvaccinated expect to be allowed to do everything while making no sacrafcies. Most of them know covid won't impact them personally so their attitude is "fuck it, I don't care if other people die, once I'm happy that's all that matters".They lack compassion. That's the cold, harsh reality of it.
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
"You'd think a site where HIV positive people on prep attend sex parties would have more compassion for people's right to decide these things on a personal level.
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I’m not sure why I’m asking since you rarely bother to explain or clarify any of the verbal diarrhea you spout here, but, would you care to explain the above?
Thanks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Restrictions really have worked, haven't they? And the a Vaccine Passport has been useless.
It's madness, repeating the same things over again and expecting a different result. |
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