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By *eebaw OP Man
over a year ago
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So recently chatting a couple whom is from the uk and big into swinging. They were very open about what there into etc and they remarked that the Irish is not as open and even on here there are not as many Irish people on sites like these like in the uk. Is this to do with the old ways of religion etc or ? |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
Everyone in Ireland is only about 4 steps removed from knowing someone your prospective swinging partner is. Not necessarily related to but knows someone they know. That makes swinging in Ireland much more difficult. Along with the gossiping as mentioned above.
Hence we are automatically more careful whom and when and wher we get busy.
My opinion anyway. |
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
Newry Down |
Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".
Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.
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Funny had the same conversation with my meet last night
We both form outside of Ireland and saying how everyone wants to play but is scared /oppressed/super super discreet that nothing happens
And yes population size the church are factors
Shame beautiful sexy people |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here . |
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over a year ago
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"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here ."
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"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here .
Amen to that "
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By *oserMan
over a year ago
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"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here .
Amen to that
This "
This is just silly behaviour |
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"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here ."
I don't think you're the subject of this though as you're a swinger so the exception rather than the rule. |
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By *scouple07Couple
over a year ago
louth, Ireland |
Don't think anything was mentioned about copying UK or politics in original question
Like others have already said its more the fact the size of Ireland and everyone knows everyone else's business |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"The church has never been an influence on me and what I do .The main thing that's stops from meeting others to swing etc is the fact that I actually don't want to fuck them and I would think that's the reason a lot of people don't meet on some others on here .
I don't think you're the subject of this though as you're a swinger so the exception rather than the rule. "
I'm just the same as anyone else on here as far as I can see. I'm definitely not an exception to what the the op said .
And people on here have been making comments like this a lot recently about how conservative and less adventurous the Irish are and as tho people actually having standards on who they meet and shag should be frowned upon. It's rubbish as far as I can see people will meet those that they want to meet .
And others believing the smoke being blown up their arses on meets about how much better they are than others is the truth. When in fact it is just what a a fair few say on meets in the hope of getting another meet and usually is disingenuous.But it is used as a way to put others down as people prefer to believe it is the truth  |
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I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street. "
Does anyone have actual per capita numbers for both countries? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street. "
"Holding back" by whose standards though? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is it not a bit pretentious to have to find a reason why more people don't swing or have they same sex lives/desires as those of us on here.
As if we are living the one correct way? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it not a bit pretentious to have to find a reason why more people don't swing or have they same sex lives/desires as those of us on here.
As if we are living the one correct way?"
Exactly, so much for open-mindedness |
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
"Holding back" by whose standards though? "
Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to |
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
Does anyone have actual per capita numbers for both countries?"
No I wish we did. Having lived and experienced swinging in the UK and visited the clubs it certainly feels like they have a larger proportion of swingers than we do. No stats tho unfortunately |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
"Holding back" by whose standards though?
Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to"
But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way? |
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
"Holding back" by whose standards though?
Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to
But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?"
Where did I say it's the only way? It's clearly not for most people. This will always be a minority lifestyle. The question is why less people here choose it than across the water as a proportion of population. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
"Holding back" by whose standards though?
Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to
But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?
Where did I say it's the only way? It's clearly not for most people. This will always be a minority lifestyle. The question is why less people here choose it than across the water as a proportion of population. "
It's not necessarily because people don't "feel able to" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why do you think it is?"
Perhaps they don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops
I was non-monogamous, as are a hell of a lot of people, long before fab. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I dont think you're following me. You're not the subject to this because you're here.
I think this thread is more about the smaller proportion of swingers here than in the UK. Its not about you because you ARE.
Obviously it's not easy to get to the bottom of this topic on this forum because we can't answer the question, because we are all the exception rather than the rule.
It's more about whats holding back your average Irish person in the street.
"Holding back" by whose standards though?
Holding back how they would choose to behave themselves if they felt able to
But how do you know they would choose your lifestyle just because you think it's the only way?
Where did I say it's the only way? It's clearly not for most people. This will always be a minority lifestyle. The question is why less people here choose it than across the water as a proportion of population. "
It was a general comment answering the OP as much as you tbh.
We have no idea how much less people choose it in comparison though.
You gave our history with religion as the reason, but with all out history with the conservatism of the church we have in many ways as Liberal if not more so a society than many aspects of the UK.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".
Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.
Ray who ???
D'Arcy?? That gobshite
Well if D'Arcy said it then it must be true
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not saying our history with the church isn't a possible factor for some but there could be any number of reasons. And I'd still like to see the actual numbers before making any massive assumptions they have 12times the population thats alot of extra swingers |
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"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour"
I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour
I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche."
People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy |
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"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour
I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche.
People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy"
Do you feel that in the UK more people are coerced into nonmonogamy? And that is the answer to what the OP asked? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You also seem to assume that swinging or non-monagamy are indicative of a healthy psyche and sexual identity, that's a bit of a leap given a lot of the behaviour
I wouldn't take it that far. I think swinging and nonmonogamy are a sign of a lack of repression, rather than a sign of a healthy psyche.
People can also be pressured and coerced into non-monagamy
Do you feel that in the UK more people are coerced into nonmonogamy? And that is the answer to what the OP asked?"
I have no idea, that's the whole point. A lot of people simply adapt to the norm in their society, others pride themselves on being "liberated" from the norm and fail to see the irony of this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer. "
It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers |
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"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer.
It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers"
It's hard to answer sweeping questions without sweeping answers |
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"Ok so your answer to OP is "Don't know". Of course that's fine. But its also fine to suggest what I believe is a likely answer.
It's also fine to argue the sweeping assumptions involved in such answers
It's hard to answer sweeping questions without sweeping answers"
Hence why it's fine to argue them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ireland is a sexually repressed society; as Ray D'Arcy said on RTE, "The catholic church has really f##£££ up this country".
Ireland is also a tiny place; everyone knows everyone else's business.
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Quote anyone, anyone but BuzzKill D'Arcy, we beg of you |
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