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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So it's come up on a few threads recently about people's transparent attempts to get a ride by agreeing with others on here.
Also I saw people say they hesitate to post at times because it may appear white Knighty.
We all know the pandering happens.
Is some of it is far less obvious though and are there some master manipulators on here?
How well can you tell the difference between honest posts and people blowing smoke?
And at the end of the day does it even matter(as far as anything on here does) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Blowing smoke or being obvious with your flirting? If you like someone on here surely its ok to make that obvious.
I'd be more likely to pm asking them for a social but even after that I don't see the harm in obvious flirting.
As regards manipulation. That happens in every walk and is rife here too id imagine. Unfortunately its always gonna happen. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Blowing smoke or being obvious with your flirting? If you like someone on here surely its ok to make that obvious.
I'd be more likely to pm asking them for a social but even after that I don't see the harm in obvious flirting.
As regards manipulation. That happens in every walk and is rife here too id imagine. Unfortunately its always gonna happen."
Ya it wasn't the flirting more than flip flopping of opinions or people taking a much stronger view of something if its coming from or directed towards someone they wanna ride. |
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You can’t please everyone, all of the time
At times I pick up a strong Christiany, youth clubby kinda vibe off fellas, where it’s constantly turning the other cheek, constantly seeing others point of view and constantly sticking up for near enough anyone, it turns my stomach a wee bit
That being said the vast majority of time it is fellas, so they’ll not be worming their way into my knickers
It’s a tactic, pretty much the same as acting the cock of the walk or anything else
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You can’t please everyone, all of the time
At times I pick up a strong Christiany, youth clubby kinda vibe off fellas, where it’s constantly turning the other cheek, constantly seeing others point of view and constantly sticking up for near enough anyone, it turns my stomach a wee bit
That being said the vast majority of time it is fellas, so they’ll not be worming their way into my knickers
It’s a tactic, pretty much the same as acting the cock of the walk or anything else
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Well if nothing else I thinkbyou have nailed down Vanillas next fancy dress nights theme. |
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An interesting post.
I think it's ok to find common ground, and to be interested in a potential partners opinions. The trick is being able to differ in opinion and for that to be ok, rather than pretend to hold the same opinions when you don't to create a false alignment and compatibility. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"An interesting post.
I think it's ok to find common ground, and to be interested in a potential partners opinions. The trick is being able to differ in opinion and for that to be ok, rather than pretend to hold the same opinions when you don't to create a false alignment and compatibility. "
I'd agree 100%.
Is it intentional or for the vast majority is it just a subconscious need to please? |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
It's usually pretty obvious when someone is just white knighting on here as oppose to just agreeing with someone's opinion. There is a difference in both.
You can see a man post something and he will get grief a woman posts the exact same thing and you'll see the men who were giving the male grief and laughing at him be all sympathetic with the female poster to me that's white knighting. Or sticking up a female no matter what she posts. I do wonder if it works for them though. I know I find white knighting to be very off putting and unattractive in a person. But others might think otherwise.
I prefer someone people who give their actual opinions rather than agreeing just to look better to others.
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"An interesting post.
I think it's ok to find common ground, and to be interested in a potential partners opinions. The trick is being able to differ in opinion and for that to be ok, rather than pretend to hold the same opinions when you don't to create a false alignment and compatibility.
I'd agree 100%.
Is it intentional or for the vast majority is it just a subconscious need to please?"
I think there is a range between subconsciously wanting to make a good impression, and deliberately telling them whatever it takes to get your hole. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's tricky. Here, as in real life, I try almost always to understand the perspective of others. I say try because I don't always succeed. This is especially true when the subject is particularly emotive for me, or a raw nerve is touched. I'd hope that comes across as balance rather than pandering.
As for spotting it in others, I usually find time will eventually show whether beliefs are truly held or not. Blowing smoke up my arse doesn't work generally and I try to differentiate between flipflopping opinions and those which evolve
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"An interesting post.
I think it's ok to find common ground, and to be interested in a potential partners opinions. The trick is being able to differ in opinion and for that to be ok, rather than pretend to hold the same opinions when you don't to create a false alignment and compatibility.
I'd agree 100%.
Is it intentional or for the vast majority is it just a subconscious need to please?"
I'm sure for some it's intentional so as to be able to manipulate. For others it's a need to please.
I see differing opinions on the internet easily getting out of hand. Where people are passionate about a topic, body language, facial expression and intonation of voice are missing, which creates a completely different connection to who you are discussing something with.
I also think there are those who may falter in sticking to their opinion because they can see and empathise much better than someone else might where the other is actually coming from and deriving opinions from.
I believe it's about respect and respecting another person's opinion regardless what it is. Some people just lose complete respect for someone else because of an opinion. There's no point in arguing together then, it's a lost battle from the start if you can't as adults from the outset have a discussion where both will respectfully agree to disagree if common ground can't be found.
As an empath it is much more difficult to keep arguing a point when you have opposition. For me anyway... |
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"I think it’s important to be humble . And if you can demonstrate that you are the most humble then may be get rewarded with a ride then ? "
I like to think of sex as something that 2 people enter into honestly and openly as equals. I'd hate to think I was being rewarded by a gatekeeper for a way I chose to behave for sex. |
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By *asual777Man
over a year ago
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"I think it’s important to be humble . And if you can demonstrate that you are the most humble then may be get rewarded with a ride then ?
I like to think of sex as something that 2 people enter into honestly and openly as equals. I'd hate to think I was being rewarded by a gatekeeper for a way I chose to behave for sex."
Absolutely . I think we modify our behaviour a little to suit partners and compromise . If it starts to become something where you are no longer behaving as your authentic self then it’s a load of balls |
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By *ilderMan
over a year ago
dublin |
"Blowing smoke or being obvious with your flirting? If you like someone on here surely its ok to make that obvious.
I'd be more likely to pm asking them for a social but even after that I don't see the harm in obvious flirting.
As regards manipulation. That happens in every walk and is rife here too id imagine. Unfortunately its always gonna happen."
Which makes me ponder... I wonder is blowing smoke up an ass in the non figurative sense a fetish for some?...
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I think it’s important to be authentic, I think it’s a good and admirable trait
But I think especially online we cultivate a persona, we use the most flattering photos, our bios are us at our most witty, we dial up our best attributes to the max
You can also use the blank slate and relative anonymity in here to create a new persona be that the white knight or a macho Dom or Bigcock5738394.
I think it’s worse to be a white knight as you’re intentionally dishonest, it’s the difference between being a wolf and a wolf in sheep’s clothing |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
Sometimes you see someone post stuff in agreement with someone and think...a bit lick arse
Sometimes you feel its genuine
Couldn't care either way as at this stage both have been so used so often and sure it doesn't effect me either way
The manipulation I hate to see is when someone puts someone down to big themselves up...always 3 sides to every story on here thats not always obvious
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Consistency has been my favourite word since joining fab.
Usually in relation to someone's profile and how their bio relates to their pics.
It can also highlight how genuine a person's forum engagement actually is or if they got a big spoon for their birthday and are using it to post.
I've had a number of conversations with people who say they don't court attention and despise yes men but their verifications and forum reactions to smoke blowing and posterior kissing tell a different tale.
Regardless, if it's not directed at me I couldn't really care less. If it is directed at me, my response will depend on how consistent everything else is and often the best reply is to ignore. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So it's come up on a few threads recently about people's transparent attempts to get a ride by agreeing with others on here.
Also I saw people say they hesitate to post at times because it may appear white Knighty.
We all know the pandering happens.
Is some of it is far less obvious though and are there some master manipulators on here?
How well can you tell the difference between honest posts and people blowing smoke?
And at the end of the day does it even matter(as far as anything on here does)"
I don't think it matters a rat's ass cause no matter what you write or how you " think " you come across in your message or post or reply it's what way others look at it that's gonna make the difference , it's like in real life ,you could think you're doing all the right things , saying all the right things but to them it's all drivel and it won't even get off the ground , can be demoralising ok but like l said it doesn't matter a rat's ass cause they're reading off a different hymn sheet altogether. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So it's come up on a few threads recently about people's transparent attempts to get a ride by agreeing with others on here.
Also I saw people say they hesitate to post at times because it may appear white Knighty.
We all know the pandering happens.
Is some of it is far less obvious though and are there some master manipulators on here?
How well can you tell the difference between honest posts and people blowing smoke?
And at the end of the day does it even matter(as far as anything on here does)
I don't think it matters a rat's ass cause no matter what you write or how you " think " you come across in your message or post or reply it's what way others look at it that's gonna make the difference , it's like in real life ,you could think you're doing all the right things , saying all the right things but to them it's all drivel and it won't even get off the ground , can be demoralising ok but like l said it doesn't matter a rat's ass cause they're reading off a different hymn sheet altogether."
It doesnt matter. You can be understood by like-minds, misunderstood by others. Dont edit what you want to say, clarify once if you feel you need to, and one way or another you'll find your people. |
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By *affa31Woman
over a year ago
Galway |
There are some well seasoned manipulators on here…I won’t call them masters of it because some can see right through it. They make my skin crawl and I wish the objects of their attention could see what they’re doing more often.
I have questioned people on it if they are changing their tune depending on whether they’re responding to men or women but they can turn nasty quickly when they realise their game is up. |
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"There are some well seasoned manipulators on here…I won’t call them masters of it because some can see right through it. They make my skin crawl and I wish the objects of their attention could see what they’re doing more often.
I have questioned people on it if they are changing their tune depending on whether they’re responding to men or women but they can turn nasty quickly when they realise their game is up. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think you have to be careful in general with written messaging on here, WhatsApp etc as people sometimes interpret things wrong and it can lead to full blown arguements about things you actually agree on but are coming at from different angles.
Then sometimes people are just being keyboard warriors/Internet trolls but I do think conversations in person would go differently alot of the time.
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality. |
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality. "
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service  |
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By *asual777Man
over a year ago
i travel all over |
So many potentially interesting research projects on fab
1. Who do site users think are in cliques ? What do frequently named users think of this ?
2. Who are the most regularly named manipulators ? Do those who have met them in person agree ?
3. What do contributors to a controversial thread feel was the consensus reached ? Do lurkers who didn’t contribute agree ?
4. Does anyone give a fuck ?
Amongst others
If only there was an interested university . Preferably One far away for anonymity
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
Dublin |
"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service "
There always be a line were "selling" yourself crosses over in to be disingenuous. Like with everything, that crossing point will be different for everyone.
And I certainly can't fault the genuine and good intentions of posts like Roses and all the other ones as well.
If a guy wants to have a dick pic profile and ask for a ride in the first message then let them at it.
I couldn't think of a more successful service. She can write their profile, take their pictures, send their messages and then all of us guys on fab would be getting the ride. problem solved! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service "
Even if it's not encouraging people to be disingenuous in a malicious way I can see how a "how to fab" template could lead to a whole bunch of autonomous personas |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service
There always be a line were "selling" yourself crosses over in to be disingenuous. Like with everything, that crossing point will be different for everyone.
And I certainly can't fault the genuine and good intentions of posts like Roses and all the other ones as well.
If a guy wants to have a dick pic profile and ask for a ride in the first message then let them at it.
I couldn't think of a more successful service. She can write their profile, take their pictures, send their messages and then all of us guys on fab would be getting the ride. problem solved! "
Well actually I am studying marketing at the moment in college. So it's all about finding the right segment of the market. If wanna fuck messages work for the target audience you're looking for then we at Rosyredlips Marketing can tailor a marketing strategy that's right for you. Looking for a more discerning audience we can also find the right package to showcase your massive package. |
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service
Even if it's not encouraging people to be disingenuous in a malicious way I can see how a "how to fab" template could lead to a whole bunch of autonomous personas "
I actually said be creative and playful to showcase your personality. My post wasn't a suggestion for everyone to have same Fab templates. We are all unique and different and people show show that side on their profile. Would be awful fucking boring here otherwise! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So many potentially interesting research projects on fab
1. Who do site users think are in cliques ? What do frequently named users think of this ?
2. Who are the most regularly named manipulators ? Do those who have met them in person agree ?
3. What do contributors to a controversial thread feel was the consensus reached ? Do lurkers who didn’t contribute agree ?
4. Does anyone give a fuck ?
Amongst others
If only there was an interested university . Preferably One far away for anonymity
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I tried Sydney Poly but as its Australia they were all out have a barbie. Or maybe having barbie...
Whats this thread about again?? |
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service "
I agree, totally needed to be said. It just puts unfair pressure on guys to be entertaining and sexy at the same time. What are you guys up to this weekend?  |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
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"The concept of being genuine on fab(or anywhere else) is an interesting one.
Rosyredlips recent thread being an example. She gave what most people considered great advice. However, do threads like that simply encourage people not to be genuine and to simply create a "fake" persona of themselves in order to get ride? Obviously that's never the intention of threads like that or advice of that nature.
But maybe that will make the overall experience better for everyone too though.
I think it ups to everyone to decide what their own version of "genuine" is and how that fits in best with their own personality.
I think posts like Rosy's simply encourage guys to 'sell' themselves. Not everyone has the skills to do this, or they have ideas which simply don't work. I don't believe that advice like this encourages people to be disingenuous at all.
Maybe the Entrepreneurial Rosy could offer a Fab marketing service to run in parallel with her Dial-a-Ride service
There always be a line were "selling" yourself crosses over in to be disingenuous. Like with everything, that crossing point will be different for everyone.
And I certainly can't fault the genuine and good intentions of posts like Roses and all the other ones as well.
If a guy wants to have a dick pic profile and ask for a ride in the first message then let them at it.
I couldn't think of a more successful service. She can write their profile, take their pictures, send their messages and then all of us guys on fab would be getting the ride. problem solved!
Well actually I am studying marketing at the moment in college. So it's all about finding the right segment of the market. If wanna fuck messages work for the target audience you're looking for then we at Rosyredlips Marketing can tailor a marketing strategy that's right for you. Looking for a more discerning audience we can also find the right package to showcase your massive package. "
I've no doubt you'll come top of the class. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So it's come up on a few threads recently about people's transparent attempts to get a ride by agreeing with others on here.
Also I saw people say they hesitate to post at times because it may appear white Knighty.
We all know the pandering happens.
Is some of it is far less obvious though and are there some master manipulators on here?
How well can you tell the difference between honest posts and people blowing smoke?
And at the end of the day does it even matter(as far as anything on here does)
I don't think it matters a rat's ass cause no matter what you write or how you " think " you come across in your message or post or reply it's what way others look at it that's gonna make the difference , it's like in real life ,you could think you're doing all the right things , saying all the right things but to them it's all drivel and it won't even get off the ground , can be demoralising ok but like l said it doesn't matter a rat's ass cause they're reading off a different hymn sheet altogether.
It doesnt matter. You can be understood by like-minds, misunderstood by others. Dont edit what you want to say, clarify once if you feel you need to, and one way or another you'll find your people."
I fully agree Rub but the point lm making is that the person you're sending them to has to see things the same way as you. |
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