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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Friend was telling me she went on a date last Friday.
They decided to head into the Bank Bar on Dame st Dublin for food. She presented her phone and ID at the door. Guy didn’t check, so she asked the manager, he just said “ we won’t be checking that here - ever”
They both left straight away.
It’s the only place I’ve heard doing this so far.
Or is it ?? Any opinions? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again. "
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity! |
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By *3nsesMan
over a year ago
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!"
Because he is one of the tighest people who has ever lived. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!
Because he is one of the tighest people who has ever lived. "
I can definitely agree with you on that - from personal experience!
However I don’t think he’s doing it with any of his other bars? |
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"Friend was telling me she went on a date last Friday.
They decided to head into the Bank Bar on Dame st Dublin for food. She presented her phone and ID at the door. Guy didn’t check, so she asked the manager, he just said “ we won’t be checking that here - ever”
They both left straight away.
It’s the only place I’ve heard doing this so far.
Or is it ?? Any opinions? "
He obviously doesn't agree with a two tier society  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Just read a review about the bank and it said they were asked for their covid-19 cert before entering "
Could be true. My friend was there last Friday.
No checks whatsoever |
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!
Because he is one of the tighest people who has ever lived.
I can definitely agree with you on that - from personal experience!
However I don’t think he’s doing it with any of his other bars?"
As far as I know it was being checked in some, but I don’t know about all, of his other pubs, could be a more local decision. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!
Because he is one of the tighest people who has ever lived.
I can definitely agree with you on that - from personal experience!
However I don’t think he’s doing it with any of his other bars?
As far as I know it was being checked in some, but I don’t know about all, of his other pubs, could be a more local decision."
I think? It’s a family member managing that bar |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drink |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drink"
Em at the last call, I think we were still in the middle of a pandemic?!! |
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I went to a restaurant last week that asked for the covid pass' but didn't actually look at them or scan them... they did do the contact tracing though so I wasn't too worried but thought it was odd. Was also in supermacs in town a couple days ago and they weren't asking for certs to sit in at all, was fairly dead upstairs so I stayed, if it was busy I'd probably think twice. Any of the business owners I know dont like the system, they're just playing the game. I'm guessing Mr bigshot from the bank has friends in high places so is less worried about consequences. |
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By *indenMan
over a year ago
Naas which is South West of Dublin |
"I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drink"
I’d hate the thoughts of catching or spreading something even more… |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
"I went to a restaurant last week that asked for the covid pass' but didn't actually look at them or scan them... they did do the contact tracing though so I wasn't too worried but thought it was odd. Was also in supermacs in town a couple days ago and they weren't asking for certs to sit in at all, was fairly dead upstairs so I stayed, if it was busy I'd probably think twice. Any of the business owners I know dont like the system, they're just playing the game. I'm guessing Mr bigshot from the bank has friends in high places so is less worried about consequences. "
I've been in my local pub twice in the last week to eat
It's owned by Mr Big Shot also but I had to show my certificate each time |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had yesterday my Fab date and we went to Hyatt Centric and they didn't asked for any cert.. can't wait to meet more lovely people from Dublin.. maybe because am new here in fab I believe to get a date.. xx everyone  |
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By *dfabMan
over a year ago
Dunboyne |
Perhaps people should recall the woman who went to a two storey Starbucks in some country to meet her friends.
She had CV19.
By the time she left chatting to her friends, the only people who didn't have CV19 were the staff.
They were the only ones wearing masks and it had gone through the air conditioning system.
PS that's a year ago, before the Delta variant!
Not to put too fine a point on it, it's not just your funeral, it's everyone else's too  |
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By *scar3Man
over a year ago
navan |
The over 85s better watch out so. This covid thing is the greatest load of B.S. ever. You'd think nothing else would kill you. Bigger chance getting killed crossing the road. There is no logical reason for all the panic. See people on there own in cars with masks. As if a .50cent piece of tissue will save you in a real pandemic. Go out and enjoy yourselves FFS. Nobody lives forever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you are vaccinated why do you care? Is vaccine not protecting you. Those who are not vaccinated are risk to themselves not you.
"Friend was telling me she went on a date last Friday.
They decided to head into the Bank Bar on Dame st Dublin for food. She presented her phone and ID at the door. Guy didn’t check, so she asked the manager, he just said “ we won’t be checking that here - ever”
They both left straight away.
It’s the only place I’ve heard doing this so far.
Or is it ?? Any opinions? "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can walk into my local Shopping Centre, no ID needed, walk in and out of shops, maybe spend 15 minutes or more in some of them, then to sit in the seating area having a coffee, ID is needed, doesn’t make sense |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drink
Em at the last call, I think we were still in the middle of a pandemic?!!"
I get that and am someone who complies I just don’t feel that comfortable with it . I can go and sit and eat in a hotel that am staying in without being checked ,,. There is no consistency at very little common sense applied to some of the decisions made. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
kildare |
"It’s not exactly taxing to show your cert
Get out your phone open a screen and show it
Then sit down and enjoy yourself
Simple "
Did you read the thread
Show it to who if there is no one looking for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you are vaccinated....what is the issue? Vaccinated and unvaccinated can be carriers. "
They will pretend your question does not exists. Their "science" has serious gaps or Tony did not issue a directive what to think about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe ask Saint tony about all the women he left to die before condemning a pub for not asking you for your private medical records,,, why are we getting vaxanated if it's not making a difference"
The vaccine will stop you from getting seriously ill/dying if you catch covid, the vaccine does NOT stop you from catching covid nor does it stop you from spreading covid. We still have to limit the spread of covid by following the guidelines on masks and hand washing. The only way we get out the other side of this is if everyone cooperates and are less selfish for a while. When we get out the other end of this pandemic then do what ever the fuck you want but the longer people keep ignoring the advice the longer the rest of us who are smart enough to realise our actions have consequences and want out of this are stuck in a pandemic with restrictions |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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After hammering the country into submission its good to see some places saying F. U. To the government.
If I go there or not concerns no one but me.
I'm all for a bit of anarchy in these times |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After hammering the country into submission its good to see some places saying F. U. To the government.
If I go there or not concerns no one but me.
I'm all for a bit of anarchy in these times "
Absolutely, bs free pub, one the must visit places |
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There are a lot of stupid people.
Being vaccinated does not make you immune to Covid 19. It just makes it less likely that you will become sick/sicker from covid 19.
You can still transmit and give it to others that have been vaccinated.
The biggest mistake that has been made to date on the whole vaccine so fare is not communicating to people properly that being vaccinated is not the same as being immune |
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"There are a lot of stupid people.
Being vaccinated does not make you immune to Covid 19. It just makes it less likely that you will become sick/sicker from covid 19.
You can still transmit and give it to others that have been vaccinated.
The biggest mistake that has been made to date on the whole vaccine so fare is not communicating to people properly that being vaccinated is not the same as being immune "
Really good point. I'm reluctantly over health and safety in work, lab and manufacturing setting so you would think people would have enough cop on to keep themselves informed, sadly not the case.
The amount of people we've had to pull over the last few weeks over masks not being worn properly and slipping back into old bad habits is infuriating.
All with people who have been vaccinated or first dose thinking they are now 100% covered and cannot pass it on.
To labour the point we didn't have a single case in work with 150 people until 8 weeks ago. Now we have had four cases. All of the people infected have had written warnings over improper use of general PPE and mask wearing since Jan. Information is key but useless when some just don't give a shit. |
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By *iktikiCouple
over a year ago
cork |
"There are a lot of stupid people.
Being vaccinated does not make you immune to Covid 19. It just makes it less likely that you will become sick/sicker from covid 19.
You can still transmit and give it to others that have been vaccinated.
The biggest mistake that has been made to date on the whole vaccine so fare is not communicating to people properly that being vaccinated is not the same as being immune
Really good point. I'm reluctantly over health and safety in work, lab and manufacturing setting so you would think people would have enough cop on to keep themselves informed, sadly not the case.
The amount of people we've had to pull over the last few weeks over masks not being worn properly and slipping back into old bad habits is infuriating.
All with people who have been vaccinated or first dose thinking they are now 100% covered and cannot pass it on.
To labour the point we didn't have a single case in work with 150 people until 8 weeks ago. Now we have had four cases. All of the people infected have had written warnings over improper use of general PPE and mask wearing since Jan. Information is key but useless when some just don't give a shit. "
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!"
Went to Adare, his pub and they need my cert checking. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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F**ked up world
1500 to 2000 cases a day been reported for last three weeks and ya are more worried if a hotel or bar not asking for cert.
The sad thing people are waiting for a bunch of people to say here ya can take masks off now if ya want and go do what ever ya want, risk is there but its manageable now its OK we have it under control.
Why do people wanna live in a society driven by fear?? I can't understand that
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Look, If you are living in fear- stay at home, mask yourself and get vaccine which as you said is not protecting (first vaccine in history). But allow others to manage their own risks. My life, my body, my choice! If me and others like me want to have a pint so what? You are going to give me permission or not?
"There are a lot of stupid people.
Being vaccinated does not make you immune to Covid 19. It just makes it less likely that you will become sick/sicker from covid 19.
You can still transmit and give it to others that have been vaccinated.
The biggest mistake that has been made to date on the whole vaccine so fare is not communicating to people properly that being vaccinated is not the same as being immune "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2000 cases and people are not dying - yet we are still told the mass extinction is here.
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F**ked up world
1500 to 2000 cases a day been reported for last three weeks and ya are more worried if a hotel or bar not asking for cert.
The sad thing people are waiting for a bunch of people to say here ya can take masks off now if ya want and go do what ever ya want, risk is there but its manageable now its OK we have it under control.
Why do people wanna live in a society driven by fear?? I can't understand that
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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The whole thing of showing your cert is completely pointless. If you want to do it properly it needs to be read with a dcc checker and accompanied by an id to make sure cert matches the person holding it. Everything else is just cosmetics. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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F**ked up world
1500 to 2000 cases a day been reported for last three weeks and ya are more worried if a hotel or bar not asking for cert.
The sad thing people are waiting for a bunch of people to say here ya can take masks off now if ya want and go do what ever ya want, risk is there but its manageable now its OK we have it under control.
Why do people wanna live in a society driven by fear?? I can't understand that
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Why are the media continuing to focus on cases. Every fecking day. Do ye not realise that Covid is here to stay in different variations and counting cases is just easy media content. The metrics that are only important now are covid related hospital numbers....specifically ICU and also vaccination rates. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And over 20000 at Croke Park last two weekends but nope a bar, hotel or what ever facility not asking for cert or a TD pub in Kerry creates more outrage for people. |
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"Maybe ask Saint tony about all the women he left to die before condemning a pub for not asking you for your private medical records,,, why are we getting vaxanated if it's not making a difference
The vaccine will stop you from getting seriously ill/dying if you catch covid, the vaccine does NOT stop you from catching covid nor does it stop you from spreading covid. We still have to limit the spread of covid by following the guidelines on masks and hand washing. The only way we get out the other side of this is if everyone cooperates and are less selfish for a while. When we get out the other end of this pandemic then do what ever the fuck you want but the longer people keep ignoring the advice the longer the rest of us who are smart enough to realise our actions have consequences and want out of this are stuck in a pandemic with restrictions"
What advice are you referring too? The one which comes from politicians and civil servants with a track record decades long of negligence and damage of the health system ? Or those medical experts who , though they bear a medical academic title , have no public known record of praxis in their current expertise, but are known for disgusting cover up operations with regard to cervical cancer checkups gone wrong ? Or have a track record of promoting unapproved vaccines of GlaxoSmith cline during the blown up Swine Flu pandemic, with Narcolepsy victims still waiting for help, let alone damage redemption ?
Yesterday we clapped for the nurses in the hospitals, today they get fired if they do not comply with the vaccination requirement - even tho as you state yourself - vaccination only protects the one vaccinated if at all, no one else .
Mind you - this is not about vaccinated versus unvaccinated - this is only about profit margins for the makers. Pharma never know patients , they only know customers/consumers . Believing that big Pharma is good for health care is as good as believing the military industrial complex is interested in peace , just saying
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"And over 20000 at Croke Park last two weekends but nope a bar, hotel or what ever facility not asking for cert or a TD pub in Kerry creates more outrage for people. "
Heard that the wedding in the TD's pub in kerry was actually from a few years back. Not sure if it true or not, but sure it took some of the smoke away from Leo... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Look, If you are living in fear- stay at home, mask yourself and get vaccine which as you said is not protecting (first vaccine in history). But allow others to manage their own risks. My life, my body, my choice! If me and others like me want to have a pint so what? You are going to give me permission or not? "
I hope there will still be a bed available in intensive care when you turn up demanding your right to be treated |
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life). |
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By *ilderMan
over a year ago
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"And over 20000 at Croke Park last two weekends but nope a bar, hotel or what ever facility not asking for cert or a TD pub in Kerry creates more outrage for people.
Heard that the wedding in the TD's pub in kerry was actually from a few years back. Not sure if it true or not, but sure it took some of the smoke away from Leo... "
If that's the case then why did said TD not take any media interviews regarding it or make any statement on it?... Surely if he was innocent he'd have been the first to claim innocence. He's not been one to shy from publicity before.... |
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By *ilderMan
over a year ago
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life). "
You choose not to take a Vaccine. I choose not to take my information from the tabloids (the mirror or the daily star) . I'm happier with my own choices and sources of information but sure each to their own |
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"I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drink"
i suppose the fact that you have Londonderry as your place of origin would explain your smug superior attitude while you are visiting here in the republic
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drinki suppose the fact that you have Londonderry as your place of origin would explain your smug superior attitude while you are visiting here in the republic "
Jesus do you never give it a fucking rest. The bitterness is hanging out of you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m vaccinated an on hols in the south at the moment , I’m really hating having to provide evidence of my vaccination at every single place you go to eat or drinki suppose the fact that you have Londonderry as your place of origin would explain your smug superior attitude while you are visiting here in the republic "
Far from it … , I love Ireland as a whole , , the fact I put the place name of where am from doesn’t come in to it (and by the way I put L’Derry which people would see as compromise and my username has just plain old Derry in case you didn’t notice )
I just said I don’t like it , I complied , it’s no superior attitude. I’ll don’t feel the need to explain myself to you but am quite the opposite to the bigot that your insinuating. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve heard of one hotel here not checking certs of non residents going for food there.
Like your friend, I’d be walking back out again.
Same here, I’d be gone like a shot. It’s very worrying
Weird thing is that the Bank Bar is owed by Charlie Chawke . He owns about 7/8 really prestigious bars in dublin and adare. He’s certainly not short of € , so why take the risk?
Plus all the negative publicity!"
some people have morals pal don’t believe in illegally discriminating people in their own country , |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well if you are annoyed . You should holiday up north .maybe the giants causeway "
. look I said it annoyed me but not enough to put me off for travelling . In one particular place , a person was very rude to my wife about it when questioning the dates (which were beyond the 15 days), watching the same person. questioning others as they came quite clearly she was on a power trip. There is talk that the north will follow the same route as they believe it’s encouraging people to get vaccinated , if that happens I’ll have to swallow my pride and accept it but doesn’t mean I have to like it
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By (user no longer on site)
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life). "
I would rather get my information from scientific accredited sources than tabloids seeking controversial headlines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055843/
Just a sample of publications with actual scientific evidence
People die everyday, just because they have been vaccinated doesn't make them immortal, the vaccine reduces the serious effects of covid but some people are at higher risk from the disease, this doesn't negate the effectiveness of the vaccine. Conspiracy theories and misinformation such as the tabloid references you quoted do nothing to help us all survive this pandemic and simply prolong the restrictions for all of us. If you don't want to be vaccinated then wear a mask properly when in public! |
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life). "
And you might want to actually read the stories you list as evidence vaccines don't work
Quote from one of your references above "Dr Arvind said that if people are dying, that did not mean that vaccines are not effective or useful. Yes, they are not 100 percent effective but still prevent deaths, serious illness. It is one of the strong weapons to date" |
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
And you might want to actually read the stories you list as evidence vaccines don't work
Quote from one of your references above "Dr Arvind said that if people are dying, that did not mean that vaccines are not effective or useful. Yes, they are not 100 percent effective but still prevent deaths, serious illness. It is one of the strong weapons to date""
And that's a fair point but avg population without vaccine you still will have over 99% chance nothing will happen to them and with vaccine they will not have 100% protection.... so would you believe a person can should be allowed to make educated choice of not or taking the vaccine when the percent levels increase is virtually miniscule without being lambasted as an Anti vaxxer and old people killer |
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I went in last night and they must have been reading this forum.
The guy on the door asked me for my cert because he didn't believe I got an A1 in my higher level geography. It took me a while but I drove home got the little yellow slip of paper and was back up showing the results from my Leaving Certificate. He was quite impressed.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
And you might want to actually read the stories you list as evidence vaccines don't work
Quote from one of your references above "Dr Arvind said that if people are dying, that did not mean that vaccines are not effective or useful. Yes, they are not 100 percent effective but still prevent deaths, serious illness. It is one of the strong weapons to date""
No publication is going to say that the vaccines don't work because they are receiving money through the big pharma industry through advertising. All of the people who did die believed in the vaccine and had no underlying issues. At least some papers or tabloids are still putting out some deaths from the vaccine, even if they are trying to paper over the cracks and say there is no direct link. When something is so heavily backed on one side and completely shut down any other voices that don't agree, it has to be questioned. |
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
And you might want to actually read the stories you list as evidence vaccines don't work
Quote from one of your references above "Dr Arvind said that if people are dying, that did not mean that vaccines are not effective or useful. Yes, they are not 100 percent effective but still prevent deaths, serious illness. It is one of the strong weapons to date""
I wouldn’t argue that vaccines can contribute positively , but they cannot replace our natural immune system . The latter may is different from individual to individual , depending on how one was brought up, diat, physical activity , age etc . Acknowledging that we all have individual immune system with individual variants of strength I doubt that a vaccine delivered in “one size fits all” .
The dispute whether the C19 works is a subject to the experts . And there is no agreement as of yet . What worries me that the scientific dispute is not held in transparency . Scientists which legitimate doubts are immediately discredited regardless their long time success prior to C19 . Only thesis fitting the current narrative is welcome . Neither side can make evident what harm or benefit the whole thing will bring in the long run . Time will tell over the next few years . However the militant pressure by Pharma and government , the lack of bearing liability for damages incurred and the long history of dishonesty, fraud and corruption of those promoting the current narrative makes it rather difficult to put faith in vaccines and measures taken to fight a pandemic which has a mortality of 0,24% and doesn’t impact 98-99% of the population at all. |
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
I would rather get my information from scientific accredited sources than tabloids seeking controversial headlines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055843/
Just a sample of publications with actual scientific evidence
People die everyday, just because they have been vaccinated doesn't make them immortal, the vaccine reduces the serious effects of covid but some people are at higher risk from the disease, this doesn't negate the effectiveness of the vaccine. Conspiracy theories and misinformation such as the tabloid references you quoted do nothing to help us all survive this pandemic and simply prolong the restrictions for all of us. If you don't want to be vaccinated then wear a mask properly when in public!"
The same scientific groups that flat out refused to look into a lab leak, just because a bad orange man said it could have came from there. Now that he is gone and he has turned into a vaccine sales man, sure they all jumped on the band wagon and are saying it may have came from a lab.  |
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
I would rather get my information from scientific accredited sources than tabloids seeking controversial headlines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055843/
Just a sample of publications with actual scientific evidence
People die everyday, just because they have been vaccinated doesn't make them immortal, the vaccine reduces the serious effects of covid but some people are at higher risk from the disease, this doesn't negate the effectiveness of the vaccine. Conspiracy theories and misinformation such as the tabloid references you quoted do nothing to help us all survive this pandemic and simply prolong the restrictions for all of us. If you don't want to be vaccinated then wear a mask properly when in public!"
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Because it affects us all when the actions (inaction?) of others causes undue stress of the health service?Because the more opportunity there is for variants to occur, the more risk there is for vaccine resistant variants to emerge?
Because as well as reducing the severity of symptoms and likelihood of hospitalisation, there IS strong published evidence that vaccination does indeed help reduce spread?
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
I would rather get my information from scientific accredited sources than tabloids seeking controversial headlines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055843/
Just a sample of publications with actual scientific evidence
People die everyday, just because they have been vaccinated doesn't make them immortal, the vaccine reduces the serious effects of covid but some people are at higher risk from the disease, this doesn't negate the effectiveness of the vaccine. Conspiracy theories and misinformation such as the tabloid references you quoted do nothing to help us all survive this pandemic and simply prolong the restrictions for all of us. If you don't want to be vaccinated then wear a mask properly when in public!if
Your vaccinated why do you care if anyone else wears a mask or is vaccinated, what’s the science behind that if your protected?"
Because the vaccine won't stop you catching covid, a mask worn properly has been proven to reduce the spread of covid. And yes there are multiple scientific studies to back up that masks reduce the spread of covid. |
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"Because it affects us all when the actions (inaction?) of others causes undue stress of the health service?Because the more opportunity there is for variants to occur, the more risk there is for vaccine resistant variants to emerge?
Because as well as reducing the severity of symptoms and likelihood of hospitalisation, there IS strong published evidence that vaccination does indeed help reduce spread?
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Ssshhh your speaking sense and covid deniers and anti vaxxers don't listen to that. Rather listen to some gobshite saying it's all about control/ nwo bullshit |
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"https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-couple-married-50-24723751
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-gave-24553187
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/former-beauty-queen-physical-therapist-23708608
https://www.truescoopnews.com/NewsDetailsAMP/explained-why-dr-kk-aggarwal-died-even-after-taking-both-jabs-of-covid-vaccines
A sample of some of the deaths that have occurred in the double jabbed. It is also not hard to find others, or even adverse effects from the vaccine. If vaers or the yellow card reporting are anything to go by there could be a lot more.
I will in no way have any one guilt trip me into taking the vaccine and if people choose to take it that is their choice. I would be happy enough to not travel for a few years, but this whole thing of being forced to show an I.D to get into anywhere is just wrong on so many levels, your medical history should be private.
I choose to wait a while to see how this experimental treatment works out, even if it means I am labelled an antivaxxer, (after receiving many other vaccinations in my life).
I would rather get my information from scientific accredited sources than tabloids seeking controversial headlines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/doctors-debunk-9-popular-covid-19-vaccine-myths-and-conspiracy-theories
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34055843/
Just a sample of publications with actual scientific evidence
People die everyday, just because they have been vaccinated doesn't make them immortal, the vaccine reduces the serious effects of covid but some people are at higher risk from the disease, this doesn't negate the effectiveness of the vaccine. Conspiracy theories and misinformation such as the tabloid references you quoted do nothing to help us all survive this pandemic and simply prolong the restrictions for all of us. If you don't want to be vaccinated then wear a mask properly when in public!if
Your vaccinated why do you care if anyone else wears a mask or is vaccinated, what’s the science behind that if your protected?
Because the vaccine won't stop you catching covid, a mask worn properly has been proven to reduce the spread of covid. And yes there are multiple scientific studies to back up that masks reduce the spread of covid."
Ireland had underfunded stretch health service that had been destroyed for last decade.... what did Government do during first lockdown, the message was give time to get health service in shape for future outbreaks.... total agreement in this policy... but what did they do to improve health service?? Its still the same over stretched service... the nurses doctors and everyone else in health service have been let down by the powers above not by the people vaccinated or not of Ireland. |
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When was the health service ever under stress due to covid the first year ever in Ireland there was no trolleys crises , you like to look for the so called science by the ones paid to peddle it , I prefer to look at the actions of the people in the know , example rte holding parties , golf gate , merrion gate , leo attending large crowds at pride maskless , tds refusing to wear mask in the dail , Obama holding partying for over 700 maskless the other day , either your status and wealth stops you from getting covid or they don’t believe what there preaching ! Another thing government have openly admitted to inflating numbers of covid related deaths . But you know everything . |
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And if you care so much about the underfunded health service (not unique to the ROI by the way) why in gods name would you contribute to putting them under further pressure because, let's face it, those wrongs cannot be put right in a short time frame |
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"When was the health service ever under stress due to covid the first year ever in Ireland there was no trolleys crises , you like to look for the so called science by the ones paid to peddle it , I prefer to look at the actions of the people in the know , example rte holding parties , golf gate , merrion gate , leo attending large crowds at pride maskless , tds refusing to wear mask in the dail , Obama holding partying for over 700 maskless the other day , either your status and wealth stops you from getting covid or they don’t believe what there preaching ! Another thing government have openly admitted to inflating numbers of covid related deaths . But you know everything . "
No we don't know everything which is why the people with degrees and experience in these areas are the ones we listen to for advice, I.e. scientists and doctors not news paper reporters or tv celabrities with no qualifications or experience in these areas |
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The name calling and demonising of non vaccinated people is counterproductive, divisive and totally unnecessary. It's only a small minority that has extreme views and throwing everyone into the same pot is just very narrow-minded. If we're not allowed anymore to have differing opinions or a more critical point of view or to question authorities we're heading into dark territory. |
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"Friend was telling me she went on a date last Friday.
They decided to head into the Bank Bar on Dame st Dublin for food. She presented her phone and ID at the door. Guy didn’t check, so she asked the manager, he just said “ we won’t be checking that here - ever”
They both left straight away.
It’s the only place I’ve heard doing this so far.
Or is it ?? Any opinions? "
I know places so far havnt asked for a resemblance of Id or a covid cert. if u want to come in and there is room, in you go. |
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"And if you care so much about the underfunded health service (not unique to the ROI by the way) why in gods name would you contribute to putting them under further pressure because, let's face it, those wrongs cannot be put right in a short time frame"
In what way exactly have I contributed in putting them under pressure ??? A no point was all ICU beds in Ireland full thank god...
Why do people blame other people for a Virus that no one can stop being spread, It's here , it's endemic and it's never going away. Vaccinated or not it can't be stop from spreading the rate of spread will always be the same the cases in hospital will still be the same. Look after yourself health wise and I suspect if you do get sick ya would want a properly funded health service to give ya best care possible which pre covid didn't have and still don't have. Maybe concentrating on that than if someone is vaccinated or not , or wearing a mask or not is a better use of people's frustrations. |
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Loads of scienctist have came out against it only the ones on the pay roll have backed it, not to forget it’s public information that some of these large pharma company’s making the vaccine have a history of bribing health officials , also funny how you just try to completely gloss over my whole point, people trow around the word conspiracy theorist thinking there great , well iv been vaccinated but not by anything still in experimental stage, I won’t be putting my health in jeopardy for anybody else and anyone that ask other to do so is selfish. No judgement to who ever wants or gets the vaccine protect yourself if that make you feel good fair play , but nobody should be pushing there beliefs on others . The vulnerable have been vaccinated so time for people to move on now |
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reading this thread is an eye opener. People are fully vaxed and getting back to as normal a life as they can. the whinging and moaning about what others are doing has to stop and the sooner people realise covid is here to stay and be lived with, the better. |
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Love the phrase follow the science they are experts listen to what they say which ones should I follow ??
The UK ones that allow people not to wear masks and Country is fully open allow full stadia
Or Australia scientists if one case appears in city its full Lockdown
Or Irish Scientists that allow indoor dining but only to vaccinated , masks still to be worn , allowing 20000 people plus to watch GAA matches
Or NZ Scientists hands down the most effective measures throughout covid
Or WHO scientists.
Which one ???? |
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"And if you care so much about the underfunded health service (not unique to the ROI by the way) why in gods name would you contribute to putting them under further pressure because, let's face it, those wrongs cannot be put right in a short time frame
In what way exactly have I contributed in putting them under pressure ??? A no point was all ICU beds in Ireland full thank god...
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Sure that's OK then...crack on
If you need me to start explaining regional stresses and such like then I'm on a hiding to nothing. I'm on a hiding to nothing anyway. But my point remains, I find it distasteful at best to complain about the state of the health service whilst thumbing your nose at the very people who are doing their best day in day out by saying "fuck it, sure it's the government's fault it's in this state so I'll do shite all to try and do my bit to alleviate the current situation". Much like you will never agree with my stance, I'll never agree with yours so I'm out.
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"Love the phrase follow the science they are experts listen to what they say which ones should I follow ??
The UK ones that allow people not to wear masks and Country is fully open allow full stadia
Or Australia scientists if one case appears in city its full Lockdown
Or Irish Scientists that allow indoor dining but only to vaccinated , masks still to be worn , allowing 20000 people plus to watch GAA matches
Or NZ Scientists hands down the most effective measures throughout covid
Or WHO scientists.
Which one ???? "
Trusting the science implies that science is innocent abs wise . But it is not
Science can bring progress for human kind as well as it can bring hell
Science can be corrupt as it needs funding and expertise can be issued to fit a narrative of the one funding the science
Don’t forget : it took science to make cyclone B, the gas used in Auschwitz
It took science to create the atom bomb which torched Hiroshima and its citizen
It took science to create agent orange spread over Vietnam
It took science to create the vaccines for the swine flu , leaving thousands with Narkolepsy |
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By *issusWoman
over a year ago
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"Love the phrase follow the science they are experts listen to what they say which ones should I follow ??
The UK ones that allow people not to wear masks and Country is fully open allow full stadia
Or Australia scientists if one case appears in city its full Lockdown
Or Irish Scientists that allow indoor dining but only to vaccinated , masks still to be worn , allowing 20000 people plus to watch GAA matches
Or NZ Scientists hands down the most effective measures throughout covid
Or WHO scientists.
Which one ???? "
Spot on. All them busy scientists are so hard at sciencing... I still wonder how retail workers globally idn't die out through last year.
More often than not what looks good on paper, behind your computer monitor isn't practically possible to recreate in real life.
Think everyone should work in retail for at least month, just to bring them back to actual reality |
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"And if you care so much about the underfunded health service (not unique to the ROI by the way) why in gods name would you contribute to putting them under further pressure because, let's face it, those wrongs cannot be put right in a short time frame
In what way exactly have I contributed in putting them under pressure ??? A no point was all ICU beds in Ireland full thank god...
Sure that's OK then...crack on
If you need me to start explaining regional stresses and such like then I'm on a hiding to nothing. I'm on a hiding to nothing anyway. But my point remains, I find it distasteful at best to complain about the state of the health service whilst thumbing your nose at the very people who are doing their best day in day out by saying "fuck it, sure it's the government's fault it's in this state so I'll do shite all to try and do my bit to alleviate the current situation". Much like you will never agree with my stance, I'll never agree with yours so I'm out.
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For record I am vaccinated I choose to do it so to say I given a big FU is well off mark.... but I ain't goin to discriminate against people who don't get vaccinated... and clearly it is the f**kin governments fault the health service is in a state and in that same stroke its the peoples fault as well they have allowed them to do it.. voting them in year after year...
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This is the level of this 'scientific' madness: 'Chief Minister Andrew Barr says the Australian Capital Territory has recorded two new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 from a record 5,943 tests.'
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"reading this thread is an eye opener. People are fully vaxed and getting back to as normal a life as they can. the whinging and moaning about what others are doing has to stop and the sooner people realise covid is here to stay and be lived with, the better. "
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