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"With government sitting on its hand…again… When indoor dining does return, what are you going to order first??" if NPHET have their way u won't have indoor dining until the whole cohort groups are vaxed. I have ate outdoors already but I'll have a steak. | |||
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"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions? "Vaccination card? I only got a badge.  | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. "you got a badge?? | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions? "I'm fully vaccinated and the idea of access to public spaces being segregated based on vaccination status makes me feel very uneasy. I'd much prefer they held off entirely but I think they're proposing it as a half measure to pacify the hospitality industry. But even then - the vast majority of hospitality staff are in their 20s and 30s and least likely to be vaccinated so far. How does that make any sense??? All that said, I actually do appreciate the caution about the Delta variant because having to go back into lockdown after reopening too soon (again) would be absolutely heartbreaking. I'm happy to wait it out and see. | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. "You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Are you sure it was the vaccine? Did you have to remove your underwear to receive it? Did the vaccinator take his trousers off?  | |||
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"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge.
You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Are you sure it was the vaccine? Did you have to remove your underwear to receive it? Did the vaccinator take his trousers off? "I found that a bit odd when he asked me to take mine off.... Even more odd when he asked me to put them on the chair in the corner next to his | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge.
You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Are you sure it was the vaccine? Did you have to remove your underwear to receive it? Did the vaccinator take his trousers off?
I found that a bit odd when he asked me to take mine off.... Even more odd when he asked me to put them on the chair in the corner next to his "...and he claimed to be straight, the lyin' hoor!  | |||
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"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge?? "Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. "Badge envy here | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. "hope they stick on and not safety pin type | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits.
Badge envy here "Ah heeeere, we can't have that. I'll give you one of mine! | |||
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"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge.
You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Are you sure it was the vaccine? Did you have to remove your underwear to receive it? Did the vaccinator take his trousers off? "I've yet to get the second jab of the latter.  | |||
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"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. "did the pins hurt | |||
" You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
"Do you mean that bomb proof and forgery safe piece of cardboard that started to disintegrate on the edges already because it's too big to fit neatly into the wallet or purse?  | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. did the pins hurt "I stuck a bit of velcro on all bits.  | |||
" You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Do you mean that bomb proof and forgery safe piece of cardboard that started to disintegrate on the edges already because it's too big to fit neatly into the wallet or purse? "Oh yes. I laminated mine on day one. I have no idea where it is though other than it's at home somewhere. There's not much point in carrying it around as yet. | |||
" You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Do you mean that bomb proof and forgery safe piece of cardboard that started to disintegrate on the edges already because it's too big to fit neatly into the wallet or purse?
Oh yes. I laminated mine on day one. I have no idea where it is though other than it's at home somewhere. There's not much point in carrying it around as yet. "I put mine into my passport | |||
" You should have got a card with the date and batch number.
Do you mean that bomb proof and forgery safe piece of cardboard that started to disintegrate on the edges already because it's too big to fit neatly into the wallet or purse?
Oh yes. I laminated mine on day one. I have no idea where it is though other than it's at home somewhere. There's not much point in carrying it around as yet. "You're right, no point in carring it around that piece of hse cardboard isn't impressing anyone. In some EU countries you get the CovPass already since mid June. I think Ireland want to introduce it on the 19th of July with the removing of the non essential travel restrictions. My prediction is that the server will be completely overwhelmed for at least the first couple of days and people will have to pay for pcr tests despite being fully vaxxed. | |||
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"Covpass is in place every where in EU except Ireland. Irish gov mention last month that they won't open it before the 19th. Now today they are saying it is because of the Hse cyber issues but they made the announce before the cyber attack... a bit strange. " Bs excuse, our little poisonous leprechaun holohan doesn't want anyone to move around, he's enjoying his power trip too much for letting it go that easily. | |||
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"The graphic doing the rounds of Europe and North America with us in red along with macedonia and a province in Canada as the only locations without indoor dining is 100% true theres a fact check on the journal about it. This is pure hubris by Holohan at this stage." sure NPHET are petrified. they'll continously live in the what if scenario. the problem is, what If we get more new variants on top of that?.. the vast majority of the vulnerable in Ireland are vaccinated and at the end of the day thats the biggest aim of the vaccine but holohan will keep telling the governent to not allow certain aspects. | |||
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" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. " Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? | |||
"At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. " m Martin would want to start growing a pair of balls. I would have no hope for the 19th either. | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? " imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge?? I got both jabs and I have the badges to prove it and photographic evidence....no velcro needed just saying
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits. " | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. " But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. " I didn't realise there were other countries that are open for vaccinated folks only? That's not the case in the UK for example, they're just open to all. | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. " As long as we have only a hse cardboard pass there's no danger this is going to happen, surely you can produce them with any decent copy machine. Nor will any European border check be impressed by it. Isn't that hse hack convenient? | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. " countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. " It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. | |||
"The graphic doing the rounds of Europe and North America with us in red along with macedonia and a province in Canada as the only locations without indoor dining is 100% true theres a fact check on the journal about it. This is pure hubris by Holohan at this stage." If you're talking about the graphic with cosáin in the corner, that's proven to be lies. Plenty of countries on that map marked green where they should be red  | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. I didn't realise there were other countries that are open for vaccinated folks only? That's not the case in the UK for example, they're just open to all. " They're open to all with some restrictions on numbers and numbers of households. | |||
" Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. " Examples? | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. " what has only opened up? indoor hospitality is opened around the world bar ireland and 2 other areas I think with a while. at this stage the plan in Ireland should of followed. open up indoor with measures still in place but no way will the plan to only allow vaccinated indoors follow through. there would be blue murder. as I said, eventually Martin is going 2 have 2 stand up to holohan. | |||
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" Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. Examples? " It's a bit of a read but here is the fact check article from the journal Andorra – Indoor dining services are open but for no more than eight people from different households. Austria – Indoor dining is allowed, but for a maximum of four adults, plus children, per table. A negative Covid test, proof of vaccination or past infection is also required to visit a restaurant. Belarus – Indoor dining services are open. Belgium – Indoor dining resumed on 9 June. Establishments can open between 8am and 10pm. Bookings can be made for a maximum of four people or one household. Bulgaria – Restaurants have been serving indoors since April. They currently can open between 6am and 11pm at 50% capacity. Croatia – Indoor hospitality is allowed. Gatherings of up to 10 people from two different households are permitted. Cyprus – Indoor dining is allowed for those who can present a ‘SafePass’, which shows a person has contracted the virus in the last six months; that they have had a negative test in the past 72 hours; or they have at least one dose of a vaccine at least three weeks prior. Czechia – Indoor diners are asked to observe social distancing and provide proof of a negative coronavirus test or proof of vaccination. Denmark – Indoor dining and drinking is allowed except between the hours of midnight and 5am. Diners are asked for their ‘Corona passport’. No alcohol is served after 10pm. Estonia – Indoor dining at 50% capacity is allowed. The maximum number of people to a table is six and establishments must close at 10pm. ADVERTISEMENT Finland – Indoor dining is allowed in most of the country once every customer has a seat at a table (no standing room). However, there are stricter rules in place in the Uusimaa region where the capital Helsinki is. There, capacity is 75% for restaurants and 50% for businesses that “primarily serve alcohol”. There are also some opening hour limitations. France – Indoor services are allowed with a 50% capacity and a maximum of 6 people at a table. Georgia – Indoor dining resumed in June. Germany – Indoor service is allowed but there are some restrictions in place that vary from region to region. Some areas require negative Covid tests, for example. Greece – Currently, indoor dining is not permitted. However, after 1 July, cafés and restaurants that are well ventilated and have a separate entrance and exit will be allowed to reopen. Hungary – Indoor dining resumed on 29 May. Iceland – Indoor dining is allowed with the country lifting the last of its Covid restrictions on Friday, 26 June. Italy – Indoor service is allowed but time limits are in place. People must wear masks when not eating/drinking and adhere to social distancing guidelines. Kosovo – Restaurants, cafés and bars are all open for indoor services. Latvia – Indoor services are allowed but diners have to prove they have been vaccinated, are protected because of a previous infection or have a recent negative test. Liechtenstein – Indoor services are currently open. Lithuania – Indoor dining is currently banned as the country is under quarantine. But from tomorrow the country goes into a state of emergency, where indoor dining will then be allowed with restricted hours for those who can present a National Certificate pass. The National Certificate is for people who have been vaccinated against coronavirus, who have had Covid-19 or who can present a negative Covid-19 test. This can be PCR test or a rapid antigen test. (Note: This FactCheck originally erroneously said that the state of emergency on 1 July would bring in a ban on indoor dining.) Luxembourg – Indoor service is allowed. Usual Covid measures such as facemasks and distancing are required. Malta – Indoor service is allowed in bar, restaurants and nightclubs. There are limits of six people per table. Monaco – According to the Gouvernement Princier Principauté de Monaco (Princely Government Principality of Monaco), restaurants, bars, ice cream parlours and tearooms are open for lunch and dinner. Patrons must present a vaccination status, a negative test or a certificate of recovery. Dining is closed to day tourists. Montenegro – Indoor dining in bars and restaurants is allowed. However, there is a maximum of two people per table. Netherlands – Indoor service is allowed, with a maximum of four people per table and customers must be given assigned seats. Hospitality staff must also be tested twice weekly. Norway – Indoor service is now open. Poland – Indoor service is allowed at a 75% capacity in establishments since 26 June. Portugal – Restaurants, cafés and pastry shops can serve customers indoors. In Albufeira, Lisbon and Sesimbra, there is a maximum of four people to a table. In the remaining regions and territories, it’s six people to a table. Romania – Indoor service is allowed, with varying capacity restrictions from region to region depending on the cumulative infection rate. Russia – As of yesterday, Moscow cafés and restaurants will only serve those who have been vaccinated, those who have had the virus in the last six months or those who can present a negative Covid test from the past 78 hours. Serbia – Indoor dining in Serbia is permitted, according to an Honorary Consul from the Serbian Embassy in Dublin. Slovakia – Indoor service is allowed. It varies between regions as to whether four or people are allowed to a table. Slovenia – Indoor service is allowed. Diners must present recovered-vaccinated-tested proof. The country declared an end to its epidemic on 15 June. Spain – Indoor service is allowed. The number of people allowed at a table varies from region to region. Sweden – In restaurants, cafés and bars, four people are allowed to a table and establishments must close at 10.30pm. Switzerland – Indoor dining resumed at the end of May. Turkey – Indoor dining is allowed until 9pm with tables limited to two patrons. UK – Indoor service is allowed across the UK. In England, groups of six can be served or any number of people from two households. In Wales, five people can gather, or one household, in a catering establishment. In Scotland, depending on the lockdown level in a local area, six people from three households can meet or eight people from three households (if restrictions are relaxed). In Northern Ireland, six people can gather indoors at bars and restaurants, or 10 people if they are all from the same household. Ukraine – Restaurants, cafés and bars are open in Ukraine but with limited capacities | |||
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" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. what has only opened up? indoor hospitality is opened around the world bar ireland and 2 other areas I think with a while. at this stage the plan in Ireland should of followed. open up indoor with measures still in place but no way will the plan to only allow vaccinated indoors follow through. there would be blue murder. as I said, eventually Martin is going 2 have 2 stand up to holohan. " You're not talking about opening up. You've been saying that restrictions like proposed can't work yet they've been imposed on some of the countries that you are pointing to as examples of what we should be doing. Personally I'm not comfortable with the two tier approach but I'm fully vaccinated so it's not going to impact me anyway. | |||
"What about the 2000 new cases in Scotland most of whom were in London for the England game? Just another warning that precautions still need to be taken. " The WHO have pointed to a 10% increase in cases in Europe over the last couple of weeks and are warning of another potential surge. | |||
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" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. what has only opened up? indoor hospitality is opened around the world bar ireland and 2 other areas I think with a while. at this stage the plan in Ireland should of followed. open up indoor with measures still in place but no way will the plan to only allow vaccinated indoors follow through. there would be blue murder. as I said, eventually Martin is going 2 have 2 stand up to holohan. You're not talking about opening up. You've been saying that restrictions like proposed can't work yet they've been imposed on some of the countries that you are pointing to as examples of what we should be doing. Personally I'm not comfortable with the two tier approach but I'm fully vaccinated so it's not going to impact me anyway. " They started to be proposed and have since been disembarked in some. I most deffo wouldn't like to own a pub or restaurant here and have to employ somebody to the door. the abuse they would get would be no end. also those vaccination cardboard pieces of paper u get are not worth a wank. | |||
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"3500 going to a gig in The Royal Hospital Kilmainham on Saturday All attendees must get an antigen test in collins museum and pass it before they'll gain entry to the gig I'm waiting on the fighting at the gates when the usual latecomers and d*unks refuse to take the test or to walk the extra km between the museum and the gig " mayhem will ensue. could read it like a book. | |||
" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. what has only opened up? indoor hospitality is opened around the world bar ireland and 2 other areas I think with a while. at this stage the plan in Ireland should of followed. open up indoor with measures still in place but no way will the plan to only allow vaccinated indoors follow through. there would be blue murder. as I said, eventually Martin is going 2 have 2 stand up to holohan. You're not talking about opening up. You've been saying that restrictions like proposed can't work yet they've been imposed on some of the countries that you are pointing to as examples of what we should be doing. Personally I'm not comfortable with the two tier approach but I'm fully vaccinated so it's not going to impact me anyway. They started to be proposed and have since been disembarked in some. I most deffo wouldn't like to own a pub or restaurant here and have to employ somebody to the door. the abuse they would get would be no end. also those vaccination cardboard pieces of paper u get are not worth a wank. " The naysayers were saying this time last year that restricting numbers and taking contact details of diners was similarly unworkable and yet it worked for the most part. | |||
"3500 going to a gig in The Royal Hospital Kilmainham on Saturday All attendees must get an antigen test in collins museum and pass it before they'll gain entry to the gig I'm waiting on the fighting at the gates when the usual latecomers and d*unks refuse to take the test or to walk the extra km between the museum and the gig " is that a ticket event? what if u purchase a ticket and fail antigen test. do u get your money back? | |||
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" I don’t see how they can expect businesses to police who is and isn’t vaccinated though under the current system. It’s going to lead to a lot of abuse of staff. And to be honest I don’t hold much hope for things to be sorted by the 19th either. At this point I don’t think the government have a clue what they’re doing. Exactly, how the feck are they going to enforce it?!?!?! Checking ID + vaccination card at the door?? Surely it's at the businesses discretion as to whether they want to do that? imagine the torture on hospitality staff trying to do that. But sure they have to do it in plenty of the European countries that we're saying are so far ahead of us. countries also started it and got rid of it fairly quickly. as hospitality staff have said here in the last few days, it's not workable. I keep coming back to the one thing. the vast majority, on the brink I'd say, vulnerable are vaccinated so why don't they follow the plan laid out and open up. eventually the governent will have to go against Nphet. It's only in the last week that most places have opened up and the majority have restrictions of some sort. Many restrict the number of diners but a number also only allow vaccinated persons, persons who have a cert to prove they have recovered from covid in the last 9 months or a negative test, in the last few days. Claiming that we're the only ones considering this is just more fake news. what has only opened up? indoor hospitality is opened around the world bar ireland and 2 other areas I think with a while. at this stage the plan in Ireland should of followed. open up indoor with measures still in place but no way will the plan to only allow vaccinated indoors follow through. there would be blue murder. as I said, eventually Martin is going 2 have 2 stand up to holohan. You're not talking about opening up. You've been saying that restrictions like proposed can't work yet they've been imposed on some of the countries that you are pointing to as examples of what we should be doing. Personally I'm not comfortable with the two tier approach but I'm fully vaccinated so it's not going to impact me anyway. They started to be proposed and have since been disembarked in some. I most deffo wouldn't like to own a pub or restaurant here and have to employ somebody to the door. the abuse they would get would be no end. also those vaccination cardboard pieces of paper u get are not worth a wank. The naysayers were saying this time last year that restricting numbers and taking contact details of diners was similarly unworkable and yet it worked for the most part. " that's totally different. u book in advance. take one contact number per table on arrival. with this proposed measure, someone will stand at door and you show vacc card and u get in. imagine what the poor person will have to deal with on weekend nights? every premises would have to have a bouncer. | |||
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"3500 going to a gig in The Royal Hospital Kilmainham on Saturday All attendees must get an antigen test in collins museum and pass it before they'll gain entry to the gig I'm waiting on the fighting at the gates when the usual latecomers and d*unks refuse to take the test or to walk the extra km between the museum and the gig is that a ticket event? what if u purchase a ticket and fail antigen test. do u get your money back? " Id imagine so...we'll wait and see | |||
"I am fully vaccinated have the card badges and photographic evidence (see profile no Velcro used just saying)i wish we were truly back to normal and we could all do as we pleased but most teacher are of the younger cohort and September is not that far away so i think we need to keep our eye on the prize ....no schools/child care means a big disruption to work and no one wants to go back to home schooling iam sure..." most teachers, those younger ones you're on about are not vulnerable. if they are they'll be vaccinated. 30 34 yo registration next week. you'll have alot done (age wise) by end of August unless there is a huge disruption to vaccines. | |||
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"I am fully vaccinated have the card badges and photographic evidence (see profile no Velcro used just saying)i wish we were truly back to normal and we could all do as we pleased but most teacher are of the younger cohort and September is not that far away so i think we need to keep our eye on the prize ....no schools/child care means a big disruption to work and no one wants to go back to home schooling iam sure...most teachers, those younger ones you're on about are not vulnerable. if they are they'll be vaccinated. 30 34 yo registration next week. you'll have alot done (age wise) by end of August unless there is a huge disruption to vaccines. " they may not be vulnerable but if they test positive or are a close contact they'll still be off work ...i don't think things will change untill everyone is vaccinated | |||
"I am fully vaccinated have the card badges and photographic evidence (see profile no Velcro used just saying)i wish we were truly back to normal and we could all do as we pleased but most teacher are of the younger cohort and September is not that far away so i think we need to keep our eye on the prize ....no schools/child care means a big disruption to work and no one wants to go back to home schooling iam sure...most teachers, those younger ones you're on about are not vulnerable. if they are they'll be vaccinated. 30 34 yo registration next week. you'll have alot done (age wise) by end of August unless there is a huge disruption to vaccines. they may not be vulnerable but if they test positive or are a close contact they'll still be off work ...i don't think things will change untill everyone is vaccinated " everyone won't get vaccinated but I agree with u, in Ireland v little will change until all the cohort are gone through, well down as far as teenagers anyway. | |||
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"With government sitting on its hand…again… When indoor dining does return, what are you going to order first??" Steak,salad...chips... and cheesecake... I had it today | |||
"I think they said at beginning nobody would be discriminated against re the vaccine. they should have stuck to their original model. fully vax all the vulnerable and open. masks into premises, so many at table etc. as is clear, holohan is on a power trip and will keep it going well past the summer unless he's stopped. " I don't agree. He's certainly not on a power trip. Total tunnel vision with that comment. The pressure he must feel and, again, they're RECCOMENDATIONS made to the government who make final decisions. There is no one person to blame for extended restrictions. Man has been through quite a year personally. This is the treatment many public figures receive. The whole world is feeling their way through the dark with this situation and I'm sure we're not the only country unhappy with decisions made by the powers that be... | |||
"I think they said at beginning nobody would be discriminated against re the vaccine. they should have stuck to their original model. fully vax all the vulnerable and open. masks into premises, so many at table etc. as is clear, holohan is on a power trip and will keep it going well past the summer unless he's stopped. I don't agree. He's certainly not on a power trip. Total tunnel vision with that comment. The pressure he must feel and, again, they're RECCOMENDATIONS made to the government who make final decisions. There is no one person to blame for extended restrictions. Man has been through quite a year personally. This is the treatment many public figures receive. The whole world is feeling their way through the dark with this situation and I'm sure we're not the only country unhappy with decisions made by the powers that be... " were one of the most negative countries around at the moment to whats allowed. holohan recommends to Martin but Martin hasn't the balls anymore to make his own decisions. if holohan has his way it'll be a long long time before you allow normality within the country. | |||
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"I think they said at beginning nobody would be discriminated against re the vaccine. they should have stuck to their original model. fully vax all the vulnerable and open. masks into premises, so many at table etc. as is clear, holohan is on a power trip and will keep it going well past the summer unless he's stopped. I don't agree. He's certainly not on a power trip. Total tunnel vision with that comment. The pressure he must feel and, again, they're RECCOMENDATIONS made to the government who make final decisions. There is no one person to blame for extended restrictions. Man has been through quite a year personally. This is the treatment many public figures receive. The whole world is feeling their way through the dark with this situation and I'm sure we're not the only country unhappy with decisions made by the powers that be... were one of the most negative countries around at the moment to whats allowed. holohan recommends to Martin but Martin hasn't the balls anymore to make his own decisions. if holohan has his way it'll be a long long time before you allow normality within the country. " If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....? | |||
"I think they said at beginning nobody would be discriminated against re the vaccine. they should have stuck to their original model. fully vax all the vulnerable and open. masks into premises, so many at table etc. as is clear, holohan is on a power trip and will keep it going well past the summer unless he's stopped. I don't agree. He's certainly not on a power trip. Total tunnel vision with that comment. The pressure he must feel and, again, they're RECCOMENDATIONS made to the government who make final decisions. There is no one person to blame for extended restrictions. Man has been through quite a year personally. This is the treatment many public figures receive. The whole world is feeling their way through the dark with this situation and I'm sure we're not the only country unhappy with decisions made by the powers that be... were one of the most negative countries around at the moment to whats allowed. holohan recommends to Martin but Martin hasn't the balls anymore to make his own decisions. if holohan has his way it'll be a long long time before you allow normality within the country. If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....?" there was a immunologist on radio this evening. "England are clearly in the midst of a 4th wave", "don't let anyone tell you otherwise". difference is they're getting on with life, have alot more allowed than we do. when do we get on with life? continue with reopening plan? the vulnerable are vaxed. what more has to be done? | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. " the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. | |||
" If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....? there was a immunologist on radio this evening. "England are clearly in the midst of a 4th wave", "don't let anyone tell you otherwise". difference is they're getting on with life, have alot more allowed than we do. when do we get on with life? continue with reopening plan? the vulnerable are vaxed. what more has to be done?" Thank you for the clear irony in that contradictory answer | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. " back at Xmas when things went "tits up", we had nothing. | |||
" If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....? there was a immunologist on radio this evening. "England are clearly in the midst of a 4th wave", "don't let anyone tell you otherwise". difference is they're getting on with life, have alot more allowed than we do. when do we get on with life? continue with reopening plan? the vulnerable are vaxed. what more has to be done? Thank you for the clear irony in that contradictory answer "no irony. open up with measures in place like many other countries and get on with life. the vulnerable are vaccinated. | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. " ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. | |||
" If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....? there was a immunologist on radio this evening. "England are clearly in the midst of a 4th wave", "don't let anyone tell you otherwise". difference is they're getting on with life, have alot more allowed than we do. when do we get on with life? continue with reopening plan? the vulnerable are vaxed. what more has to be done? Thank you for the clear irony in that contradictory answer no irony. open up with measures in place like many other countries and get on with life. the vulnerable are vaccinated. "Sorry I have to explain this but you mention 4th wave in a country with much higher numbers of vaccinated where restrictions where extended whilst whinging about us being in same situation...? | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. " what if scenario. nobody has a clue if indoor hospitality opens that things go "tits up". when do we open? I never said open normally, I said open with measures in place. that's a slow reopening. | |||
" If you really believe that, then you must have some insight into why??? Why would he recommend extended or tightening restrictions? I'm sure you've a negative conspiracy to back up your blatant finger pointing aside from public health....? there was a immunologist on radio this evening. "England are clearly in the midst of a 4th wave", "don't let anyone tell you otherwise". difference is they're getting on with life, have alot more allowed than we do. when do we get on with life? continue with reopening plan? the vulnerable are vaxed. what more has to be done? Thank you for the clear irony in that contradictory answer no irony. open up with measures in place like many other countries and get on with life. the vulnerable are vaccinated.
Sorry I have to explain this but you mention 4th wave in a country with much higher numbers of vaccinated where restrictions where extended whilst whinging about us being in same situation...? "vulnerable vaccinated. thats all that matters to reopening with measures in place. u want to wait until everyone is vaccinated to open theatres, allow travel and indoor hospitality? | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. " Speaking to a medic today and was told that 2 of his patients who've had 2 jabs and both are quite ill with the Delta variant | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. what if scenario. nobody has a clue if indoor hospitality opens that things go "tits up". when do we open? I never said open normally, I said open with measures in place. that's a slow reopening. " Sure even the experts don't know for sure what would happen. They rely on modelling and statistics to have a best guess. Its those models and the predictions that they show that are used to make decisions | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. Speaking to a medic today and was told that 2 of his patients who've had 2 jabs and both are quite ill with the Delta variant" that's life. unfortunately people who are doubly vaxed will still get seriously ill and might die. u do realise people die from the flu each year who are vaxed? it DOESNT STOP everyone from getting seriously ill and maybe dying. | |||
"Whatever they do someone is gonna be having a go. You can't really blame the government for following expert advice, particularly when they went against advice before and everything went titsup. They didn't really have much choice. the difference now is vaccines are here with a long time and the vulnerable are vaxed. that was the main purpose of vaccines. ...and the expert public health advice that takes that into account believes there is still enough risk to delay reopening. what if scenario. nobody has a clue if indoor hospitality opens that things go "tits up". when do we open? I never said open normally, I said open with measures in place. that's a slow reopening. Sure even the experts don't know for sure what would happen. They rely on modelling and statistics to have a best guess. Its those models and the predictions that they show that are used to make decisions " as I asked u, when do we open? the delta variant is in the country since before the reopening plan was announced. | |||
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"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. " But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. | |||
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"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. " and you will find some people who are doubly vaxed from covid will still die same way as people vaxed from the flu(a less serious virus) still die. just because people are dying doesn't pause a reopening. id say otherwise if a huge number of younger fit healthy people were dying but they're not. all areas within this country should now be open like other country's with measures in place. | |||
"I haven't seen the data, and if I did I wouldn't understand it anyway. I don't believe these guys are just being bastards to piss us all off though. They are what we have." the difference is all "experts" don't see it the same way. | |||
"I haven't seen the data, and if I did I wouldn't understand it anyway. I don't believe these guys are just being bastards to piss us all off though. They are what we have." The medics are extremely worried at the transmisability of the Delta variant and its consequences. I think that any of the Government decisions that are made are made solely for the common good | |||
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"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. and you will find some people who are doubly vaxed from covid will still die same way as people vaxed from the flu(a less serious virus) still die. just because people are dying doesn't pause a reopening. id say otherwise if a huge number of younger fit healthy people were dying but they're not. all areas within this country should now be open like other country's with measures in place. " Will you read what you said!! For Christ sake the experts are there for a reason. Will ye stop moaning and continue to protect our people from illness or death. It’s more important than a night out. I’m sick of all you bar stoll experts. God only knows how many life’s have been saved by our governments and NEPHT actions, we will never know. | |||
"We can all drive ourselves crazy comparing Ireland to other countries. Fact of the matter is Nphet put forward recommendations and the irish government decides. We as citizens don't get the right to decide. I ignore the daily C19 cases but do keep an eye on hospital numbers. If we get another surge from the Delta variant and hospital numbers significantly rise we then could face possibly more restrictions and I hate to say it lockdowns." and your comment applies to every other varient in the future if more arise. we would then never reopen and be fully living restrictive lives. I hate to see what happens in a few weeks/ months and a new variants emerges. | |||
"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. and you will find some people who are doubly vaxed from covid will still die same way as people vaxed from the flu(a less serious virus) still die. just because people are dying doesn't pause a reopening. id say otherwise if a huge number of younger fit healthy people were dying but they're not. all areas within this country should now be open like other country's with measures in place. Will you read what you said!! For Christ sake the experts are there for a reason. Will ye stop moaning and continue to protect our people from illness or death. It’s more important than a night out. I’m sick of all you bar stoll experts. God only knows how many life’s have been saved by our governments and NEPHT actions, we will never know. " so are experts there for a reason in every other country. the difference in alot of those countries is because vaccines are available, they're getting on with life. | |||
"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. and you will find some people who are doubly vaxed from covid will still die same way as people vaxed from the flu(a less serious virus) still die. just because people are dying doesn't pause a reopening. id say otherwise if a huge number of younger fit healthy people were dying but they're not. all areas within this country should now be open like other country's with measures in place. Will you read what you said!! For Christ sake the experts are there for a reason. Will ye stop moaning and continue to protect our people from illness or death. It’s more important than a night out. I’m sick of all you bar stoll experts. God only knows how many life’s have been saved by our governments and NEPHT actions, we will never know. so are experts there for a reason in every other country. the difference in alot of those countries is because vaccines are available, they're getting on with life. " I live in Ireland! | |||
"its clear to me our "experts" are living in a bundle of negativity and clearly in a what if scenario. the vulnerable are vaccinated, the main people who get sick from covid but the reopening plan has stalled. if NPHET have their way and the government don't do there own thing I can see us living like we are for the foreseeable and God help us if another new variants emerges. But the "what if" is people die... So it's not something you can just take a chance on and see what happens. and you will find some people who are doubly vaxed from covid will still die same way as people vaxed from the flu(a less serious virus) still die. just because people are dying doesn't pause a reopening. id say otherwise if a huge number of younger fit healthy people were dying but they're not. all areas within this country should now be open like other country's with measures in place. Will you read what you said!! For Christ sake the experts are there for a reason. Will ye stop moaning and continue to protect our people from illness or death. It’s more important than a night out. I’m sick of all you bar stoll experts. God only knows how many life’s have been saved by our governments and NEPHT actions, we will never know. so are experts there for a reason in every other country. the difference in alot of those countries is because vaccines are available, they're getting on with life. I live in Ireland!" so do I and were living with the same virus as other countries but they're open with their measures in place. we're not. | |||
"Covpass is in place every where in EU except Ireland. Irish gov mention last month that they won't open it before the 19th. Now today they are saying it is because of the Hse cyber issues but they made the announce before the cyber attack... a bit strange. Bs excuse, our little poisonous leprechaun holohan doesn't want anyone to move around, he's enjoying his power trip too much for letting it go that easily. " Power trip is right and getting €140,000 for his trip.... | |||
"Covpass is in place every where in EU except Ireland. Irish gov mention last month that they won't open it before the 19th. Now today they are saying it is because of the Hse cyber issues but they made the announce before the cyber attack... a bit strange. Bs excuse, our little poisonous leprechaun holohan doesn't want anyone to move around, he's enjoying his power trip too much for letting it go that easily. Power trip is right and getting €140,000 for his trip...." Why would any qualified medical person be interested in a power trip. Maybe he is doing his job. Maybe he worked his tits off in school, college, maybe he sacrificed going out on the piss while he studied. Dates were set weeks ago before knowledge of Delta virus but you think it’s just a power trip. | |||
"Covpass is in place every where in EU except Ireland. Irish gov mention last month that they won't open it before the 19th. Now today they are saying it is because of the Hse cyber issues but they made the announce before the cyber attack... a bit strange. Bs excuse, our little poisonous leprechaun holohan doesn't want anyone to move around, he's enjoying his power trip too much for letting it go that easily. Power trip is right and getting €140,000 for his trip.... Why would any qualified medical person be interested in a power trip. Maybe he is doing his job. Maybe he worked his tits off in school, college, maybe he sacrificed going out on the piss while he studied. Dates were set weeks ago before knowledge of Delta virus but you think it’s just a power trip. " not true. delta virus was in the country when reopening plans were set. | |||
"Am I missing something here or is it an absurd notion that those of us that are fully vaccinated and who being their vaccination cards with them should be able to dins and drink indoors with no restrictions?
Vaccination card? I only got a badge. you got a badge??
Yes, I even got offered a second one with my second jab so that I could display one on each of my tits.
Badge envy here "Badge and tit envy here | |||
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"Power trip is right and getting €140,000 for his trip...." You'd like to lowball the pay for the person responsible for public health during a pandemic? | |||
"what is the protection rate for delta variant from all the vaccines? is Pfizer well ahead?" A full double Pfizer provides excellent protection from serious illness from the delta variant. The others have been shown to be effective also, but studies are ongoing. | |||
"what is the protection rate for delta variant from all the vaccines? is Pfizer well ahead?" 92 % Astra against 96 % Pfizer | |||
"Power trip is right and getting €140,000 for his trip.... You'd like to lowball the pay for the person responsible for public health during a pandemic? " And what about the front liners who got a round of applause for their responsibility for public health during the pandemic ? They've been lowballed ..Everyone has responsibility during this pandemic but we'll leave it at that...each to their own opinion. | |||
"what is the protection rate for delta variant from all the vaccines? is Pfizer well ahead? 92 % Astra against 96 % Pfizer " what about the one shot vaccine? | |||
"what is the protection rate for delta variant from all the vaccines? is Pfizer well ahead? 92 % Astra against 96 % Pfizer what about the one shot vaccine?" Info not released yet as far as I know | |||
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"Ain't going near indoor dining before 2022. Fuck that shit! Can you not watch Jamie Oliver and feckin cook something yerself? I don't get this obsession with having to go out for food. Fucking learn how to make it yourself! Upskill and enjoy not getting Covid you gobshites "Its the music l miss most , | |||
