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"I'm left of centre.. FFG are a spent force but SF are an unknown quantity..any party that governs for the people rather than their party or vested interests I guess. " I have to say I voted SF in last election but do like some of the social democrats such as Holly Cairns. But at the same time how effective can they be in politics with getting things done. Like in the states where progressive democrats have different views to corporate dems and republicans of course. Regardless of that though.. Where do you diverge from where your alignment would suggest you would be on a particlar issue ? Do you find yourself far left on certain issues. Center ledt on others . Center on some others but find as a label center left is closest ? | |||
"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " Thank you for your honesty. I must confess my knowledge on the north is not up to scratch to have an educated view on it | |||
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"I'm left of centre.. FFG are a spent force but SF are an unknown quantity..any party that governs for the people rather than their party or vested interests I guess. I have to say I voted SF in last election but do like some of the social democrats such as Holly Cairns. But at the same time how effective can they be in politics with getting things done. Like in the states where progressive democrats have different views to corporate dems and republicans of course. Regardless of that though.. Where do you diverge from where your alignment would suggest you would be on a particlar issue ? Do you find yourself far left on certain issues. Center ledt on others . Center on some others but find as a label center left is closest ?" No one issue.. The centre /centre right is a boys club.. The way they cowtail to banks and insurance companies for example is corrupt.. Pure and simple but then being a business owner I don't want to see SF in as they are a high taxation party to anyone on 40k or over.. Hard to call it. | |||
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"Politically I think I'm probably right of centre mostly but I also fluctuate depending on the actual issue. " That's interesting to me that you find yourself being able to fluctuate . May I ask do you have examples of where you fluctuate on the political spectrum ? (I think it's a positive sign of independent thought being able to do so) | |||
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"I think I am a right wing leftists. "So a labour voter | |||
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"Politically I think I'm probably right of centre mostly but I also fluctuate depending on the actual issue. That's interesting to me that you find yourself being able to fluctuate . May I ask do you have examples of where you fluctuate on the political spectrum ? (I think it's a positive sign of independent thought being able to do so)" I'm not even sure fluctuate is the best way to describe it. Take say the Justice I believe in harsher sentencing but also in the social interventions that need to be put in place to prevent people becoming offenders. I'm probably not really even on the right of centre but I find that the parties on the left use far more populist propaganda so that really puts me off aligning myself to them | |||
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"I'm definitely a lefty but certainly open minded and willing to talk with anyone. What I can't stand more than anything is tribalism and partitonist politics. Honest conversation is needed now more than ever." Well said ! | |||
"Do you find yourself on the left/center/right politically and do you subscribe to all expected opinions of your political tribe ? Do you find nuances in some of them or disagree with some of the stances you might be expected to take ?" Truly believe that with all the information we have available nowadays, there’s not really an excuse for blind political loyalty any more.. we’re all human and we all make mistakes , and should be able to recognise this in the people who represent us too .. Would consider myself a republican but only through the proper channels , never violence .. I think that’s a political position anyways  | |||
"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " What a superb, succinct and precise analysis of NI politics. | |||
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"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " Feel the same... politics bore me because its always orange and green!! | |||
"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " Yup just this! No interest at all either | |||
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"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " 100% this, the 2 main parties keep each other in power by drumming up fear in their own community of the opposition! | |||
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"On the bright side we don't have a monarchy..... But we do have the same centre-ish party in power forever...basically. Nothing except a local popularity contest, no real politics exposed except personal interests,the people who fought to free this country, nationalists and true republicans have no representation at the moment. I say vote for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.... " 
Also... I wonder why we have ZERO people admitting right leaning affiliations | |||
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"On the bright side we don't have a monarchy..... But we do have the same centre-ish party in power forever...basically. Nothing except a local popularity contest, no real politics exposed except personal interests,the people who fought to free this country, nationalists and true republicans have no representation at the moment. I say vote for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster....
Also... I wonder why we have ZERO people admitting right leaning affiliations "i am definitely right wing but would be very very liberal in regards to pro choice etc | |||
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"My politics would be hard left, Im historically a Shinner From living abroad the last 15 years I dont know enough about the other left wing parties yet. I would like to see a left wing coalition with Mary Lou as Taoiseach. I get peoples issues with Sinn Fein but in fairness they are changing albeit not fast enough for some people. FF & FG are just peddling the same shit they have for years and people keep voting for them and nothing changes. The only other option is to run the lot of them and hire a company to run the country." Forgetting the historical issues with SF. My main issue with them in the last 10 years is the populist drivel that their policies have been. They were never a realistic option because they would never be able to inact or pay for the majority of their claims. I think that is changing they have some really savy people there now who are more suited to actual governing. I'm not sure I'm at a point where I would vote for them yet but I'd give them alot more time and consideration than previously | |||
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"On the bright side we don't have a monarchy..... But we do have the same centre-ish party in power forever...basically. Nothing except a local popularity contest, no real politics exposed except personal interests,the people who fought to free this country, nationalists and true republicans have no representation at the moment. I say vote for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.... " I second this - Evangelical Pastafarianism is the way forward | |||
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"On the bright side we don't have a monarchy..... But we do have the same centre-ish party in power forever...basically. Nothing except a local popularity contest, no real politics exposed except personal interests,the people who fought to free this country, nationalists and true republicans have no representation at the moment. I say vote for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster....
Also... I wonder why we have ZERO people admitting right leaning affiliations "Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo. | |||
" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo. "i dont get this? what do you mean? | |||
" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo.
i dont get this? what do you mean?
"Cause he is gay? Yikes.... | |||
"Living in Northern Ireland I have not even the slightest interest in politics. We have tribal leaders not politicians and dummy spitting isn't an attractive feature. I don't watch news as I lived the news for long enough and nothing surprises me anymore. " Politics here is beyond frustrating. I do have an interest though and try to keep broadly up to speed. I was living away though for 13 years and it was a welcome break. I do vote but not orange/green. And I do have personal conflict because I am, at my core, a unionist insomuch as I support the union, however beyond that my beliefs & values align mostly with Alliance. I've not voted for any unionist MLA or MP since returning to Northern Ireland because there are too many issues that jar. Generally I'm a leftist but not hard left...sometimes I fluctuate between that and left of centre depending on the issue. K | |||
" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo.
i dont get this? what do you mean?
Cause he is gay? Yikes...."Thinks he's royalty if you must know and feels he's answerable to nobody..  | |||
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" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo.
i dont get this? what do you mean?
Cause he is gay? Yikes....
Thinks he's royalty if you must know and feels he's answerable to nobody.. "But why a Queen then, and not a King?  | |||
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" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo.
i dont get this? what do you mean?
Cause he is gay? Yikes....
Thinks he's royalty if you must know and feels he's answerable to nobody..
But why a Queen then, and not a King? "Or pick Martin who was born into politics | |||
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"Libtard feminazi dirty lefty here "heya do you mind if i pm you?? | |||
" Ahh we have our own queen #leakyleo.
i dont get this? what do you mean?
Cause he is gay? Yikes....
Thinks he's royalty if you must know and feels he's answerable to nobody..
But why a Queen then, and not a King? "The word monarch in this part of the world usually refers to the Queen of England. It was a throw away remark that is being attempted to be hijacked and contorted into something its not | |||
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"I never know what is left or right in politics. My favourite is Billy Connolly - don't vote, cos it only encourages the bastards! If everyone did that at the next election, would it make a political statement on behalf of the people and force change, or would the same crowd be automatically reinstated?" It would reduce the quota so whoever has the biggest family would get elected.  | |||
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"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. " That may well be the case anyway if Joe Biden gets his way | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. " Yeah, god forbid anyone would ever ask them to pay their fair share | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. Yeah, god forbid anyone would ever ask them to pay their fair share " couldn’t be doing that | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. Yeah, god forbid anyone would ever ask them to pay their fair share
couldn’t be doing that "Goddam Libtard pinko leftie commie surrender monkey motherfuckers! | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. Yeah, god forbid anyone would ever ask them to pay their fair share "Not when the government have middle income earners to tax. Leave those multi nationals alone  | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. Yeah, god forbid anyone would ever ask them to pay their fair share
Not when the government have middle income earners to tax. Leave those multi nationals alone "work hard, pay your taxes, keep the country going and we will use your money to fund unemployed multi nationals and vaccinate them and the itinerants before you | |||
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"Didn’t take long for the racism to rear its head "My thoughts exactly | |||
"Didn’t take long for the racism to rear its head
My thoughts exactly "Really? 3 days...some people expect the world | |||
"Didn’t take long for the racism to rear its head
My thoughts exactly
Really? 3 days...some people expect the world"Dammit I used the wrong emoji. Scarleh for him but meant  | |||
"Didn’t take long for the racism to rear its head
My thoughts exactly
Really? 3 days...some people expect the world
Dammit I used the wrong emoji. Scarleh for him but meant "Embarrassed for him and seriously wondering where the fook did that bit of mysoginy pop up | |||
"If SF get to govern, they will tax all the multi nationals and they will say bye bye and head off somewhere else. " Multinationals worth billions shouldn't be tqxed ? | |||
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"Google tonight admitted to moving 75 billion in profit out of Ireland in a tax loophole in 2019 since closed down. Thats just wrong .....I understand about companies employing thousands but when a government doesn't close loopholes like that you'd wonder why " I presume that was through Ireland as opposed to out of Ireland? There's no way Google made/generated 75bn profit in Ireland. | |||
"Google tonight admitted to moving 75 billion in profit out of Ireland in a tax loophole in 2019 since closed down. Thats just wrong .....I understand about companies employing thousands but when a government doesn't close loopholes like that you'd wonder why I presume that was through Ireland as opposed to out of Ireland? There's no way Google made/generated 75bn profit in Ireland." Apologies...dollars but 63 million euro and it was all profit moved ...it wasn't just from one year | |||
"Google tonight admitted to moving 75 billion in profit out of Ireland in a tax loophole in 2019 since closed down. Thats just wrong .....I understand about companies employing thousands but when a government doesn't close loopholes like that you'd wonder why I presume that was through Ireland as opposed to out of Ireland? There's no way Google made/generated 75bn profit in Ireland." How do you think Apple were landed with a potential 13 billion tax bill? If you internally price your IP as a large amount of your value, and charge that cost to the business units, then wherever your IP is hosted creates most of the profit. This is where we need to distinguish between multinationals that act like that versus the more manufacturing multinationals that actually keep hundreds of thousands of people in the country in jobs | |||
"Libtard feminazi dirty lefty here "Also me! | |||
"In this country the two main parties are both on the right and have been since the inception of the state , both have always pandered to the church (the constitution of Ireland was sent for church approval ). As for the "left" the majority of the smaller left politicians/parties are just moaners they give out about everything but never come out with solutions and they are driven by their own egos. But they are good at local levels Labour sold their soul out years ago and are no longer a leftist party The greens are a joke of a party how anyone votes for them I'll never know at least with FF and FG you know exactly what they are. SF while they are moving more mainstream their biggest problem is history they will always be associated with the IRA. But they do have a good track record at local government levels. If I could form a government tomorrow I'd like a left majority coalition say SF , PBP and FF. This would be a left leaning but mostly central. " Completely agree with you, my friend | |||
"Google tonight admitted to moving 75 billion in profit out of Ireland in a tax loophole in 2019 since closed down. Thats just wrong .....I understand about companies employing thousands but when a government doesn't close loopholes like that you'd wonder why " I would guess its because corporation tax isn't everything. Keeping these businesses here generates a lot of income regardless. Income tax / VAT / PRSI etc plus generating wealth that is spent here which benefits Irish businesses and the economy as a whole. | |||
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"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority" I'm a working class parent of a trans child. There are working class amongst minority groups. Why should minority groups not have the same rights regardless of "class"? Should we not strive to help the homeless? | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority" Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas." Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government" What would you like to have seen them do differently? | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority I'm a working class parent of a trans child. There are working class amongst minority groups. Why should minority groups not have the same rights regardless of "class"? Should we not strive to help the homeless? "You will have to ask your government about rights nd class , what I'm saying is they have to stop ignoring the majority of the people in favour of what makes the cool Nd down with the kids ,,, like the word man ,, I'm a man nd i want to remain been called a man not a person a man ,,, as for trans i still think it should be left until you are over 18 for making any decisions | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority I'm a working class parent of a trans child. There are working class amongst minority groups. Why should minority groups not have the same rights regardless of "class"? Should we not strive to help the homeless?
You will have to ask your government about rights nd class , what I'm saying is they have to stop ignoring the majority of the people in favour of what makes the cool Nd down with the kids ,,, like the word man ,, I'm a man nd i want to remain been called a man not a person a man ,,, as for trans i still think it should be left until you are over 18 for making any decisions"What has supporting minority rights got to do with being cool and down with the kids? Incidentally, here in the North, you cannot access hormone treatment or surgery until adulthood has been reached, however there is much work to be done before that takes place and everyone should have access to and support with gender identity counselling regardless of age. Such things do not know class or age boundaries. I was referring directly to your example where you stated immediately after that you working class people are paying for all this. I don't see the correlation | |||
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"Before the tread gets bogged down is there any party north or south that wants to tell a man that from now on he has to be known as a person.....I don't know of any " People before profit | |||
"Before the tread gets bogged down is there any party north or south that wants to tell a man that from now on he has to be known as a person.....I don't know of any People before profit " | |||
"Before the tread gets bogged down is there any party north or south that wants to tell a man that from now on he has to be known as a person.....I don't know of any People before profit " | |||
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"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government" They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. | |||
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"Does it really make any difference in this country where you stand, we are basically a two party system with both parties two sides of the same coin. SF do offer an alternative but I feel they might not have enough competent people on board to run the show properly " Yeah, cos FF and FG have shown that they're overloaded with such talent. 
Lest there should be any doubt, yes, that was indeed sarcasm
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"There's absolutely nothing wrong with a man or woman being called a person. The issue the previous poster was alluding to (if I interpreted correctly) is one of mandated language. An example of this grievance would be the growing use of the term 'cis' to denote someone whose gender identity matches that of their sex. This accounts for approx 99.4% of the population. Why must the majority change how they have identified for generations (even if it was sub-consciously) and accept this additional label to suit the 'inclusive' narrative? This ongoing intersectionality only serves to reinforce stereotypes (gender or otherwise) and alienates those who it claims to be helping from the rest of the population." I dont think anyone is trying to mandate that anyone must change the way anyone describes themselves. It's more about having a bit of common decency and respecting how other people see themselves. | |||
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"Maybe not, but they have ample experience in running the country. Of course mistakes have been made along the way, by anyone in power. I would fear if SF got into power they would pursue their radical agenda without any of the political nous that is required to make a success of it. I would say that it is inevitable they will get into power. As ought to be the case if they get a mandate from the electorate (which they didn't have last time). In a way, I hope it does happen... give anyone enough rope and they will hang themselves eventually. I think America have started down that road and we will see in 3-5 years the implications. I hope I'm wrong of course." The only FF members of government who have experience of running the country have experience of running it into the ground the last time they were in government. FG experience relates to standing by and watching the housing crisis grow and grow. It's not great experience in my opinion. | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. " Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs " No-one else? Just the Irish? | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish? "Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up "You forgot to say sheeple | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up
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"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up
You forgot to say sheeple"No, i respect free speech nd making your own mind up ,, but people do have to wake up nd start thinking for themselves,, this is not the Irish way , sitting there doing nothing | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up
You forgot to say sheeple
No, i respect free speech nd making your own mind up ,, but people do have to wake up nd start thinking for themselves,, this is not the Irish way , sitting there doing nothing "Where Covid is concerned, I’m quite happy to sit around doing nothing if it protects the people I love. | |||
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"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up
You forgot to say sheeple
No, i respect free speech nd making your own mind up ,, but people do have to wake up nd start thinking for themselves,, this is not the Irish way , sitting there doing nothing
Where Covid is concerned, I’m quite happy to sit around doing nothing if it protects the people I love. "Well I think we have sat around long enough, we need new thinking | |||
"The problem with the left like PBP, SD,SF ,, is they want to give everything away for free ,, like if you don't want to work then don't,but here's a house nd some money nd everyone else will pay for it ,, with them all the minorities are right they agree with them all from change your sex at 16 to taking the word mother off a birth cert ,, but they forget about us the working class people who pay for all this nd god forbid we earn to much nd try to better ourselves before we take care of the homeless,,, the truth is none of them care about us you know us the majority Balderdash !!!! Most of SFs votes come from working class areas. Where have SF been for the last year , not representing the people that voted for them ,, nd I'm one of them people ,,, they have just sat back nd agreed with the government They've agreed with the medical advice, as has the government by and large. Medical advice ,, they've had one idea for over a year now ,, the longest lockdown in the world ,, a lockdown with loopholes to suit the rich Nd government friends ,, a lockdown only enforced on Irish people,,, wake up ffs No-one else? Just the Irish?
Well all other religions are going to their services ,,, black lives matter have done whatever they want ,, fruit pickers Nd meat factory workers been brought into the country would you like me to go on ,,, our leader went walking on cliffs in cork over the weekend that are closed because we are in level 5 ,,, wake up
You forgot to say sheeple
No, i respect free speech nd making your own mind up ,, but people do have to wake up nd start thinking for themselves,, this is not the Irish way , sitting there doing nothing "For a lot of 3rd generation unemployed it is their way | |||
