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What’s everyone’s opinion here? Yes I believe he was totally wrong in what he done, but he’s getting abused to the last from anything I see on social media. The man is human too and anyone can make mistakes. I think he may just take it on the chin and everyone should move on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I genuinely don’t understand why “man sits on dead horse” is even a news story. I agree it was misjudged but the reaction is totally disproportionate. I feel sorry for him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me it's the complete lack of respect and compassion. That poor horse is a beautiful creature, too, disgrace and make little of it as he sits on it is just heartbreaking. It has a a soul, it's a living being, the very least it deserves is dignity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was a terrible image to see,a beautiful creature shown no respect and whether it was a momentary lapse or not I hope they come down on him like a ton of bricks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The horse is dead...... I don't think it minds
If it was me that was dead I wouldn't give a crap, "Oh no look what they're doing to your body!?"
"What do I care, I'm no longer using it!" Haha
Typical cancel culture has blown things way outta proportion as usual, like not a single one of them ever made a mistake 
Bugs me that the first thing everyone does is try to take the food outta their mouths than rather any other type of punishment. |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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I find what he did completely inappropriate and shows a lack of respect for the animals he trains.Yes the horse is dead and I know that nobody wanted that to happen and if it had been my horse (not that I've ever had horses in training ) I would have been beyond furious at him .I've lost horses before and it's horrible BUT I would never pose for a photo on any of the ones that died and I don't believe his story but I do think it was a spur of the moment thing though and he didn't actually mean any harm if that makes sense .
I do think however that the reaction has gotten way out of line.And is a massive over reaction by some .The relevant authorities are already looking into it and he has lost horses that people have moved from him to other trainers.I think he has already paid for a spur of the moment act of stupidity and the witch hunt that is continuing especially with threats etc is complete and utter over reaction .I wouldn't be a fan of his even before this but he doesn't deserve what is happening to him now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find what he did completely inappropriate and shows a lack of respect for the animals he trains.Yes the horse is dead and I know that nobody wanted that to happen and if it had been my horse (not that I've ever had horses in training ) I would have been beyond furious at him .I've lost horses before and it's horrible BUT I would never pose for a photo on any of the ones that died and I don't believe his story but I do think it was a spur of the moment thing though and he didn't actually mean any harm if that makes sense .
I do think however that the reaction has gotten way out of line.And is a massive over reaction by some .The relevant authorities are already looking into it and he has lost horses that people have moved from him to other trainers.I think he has already paid for a spur of the moment act of stupidity and the witch hunt that is continuing especially with threats etc is complete and utter over reaction .I wouldn't be a fan of his even before this but he doesn't deserve what is happening to him now."
I see what you mean there Bo  . I don't condone what he did, I think it was stupid for him to do, it was something a kid or teenager might do. I mean I wouldn't go riding a dead horse either but just cause I'd think it was kinda gross, wouldn't have thought about the owners and that.
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Big deal made out of nothing.. If that photo was years ago there wouldn't be a word said about it but nowadays we have political correctness and the hypersensitivity it creates.. Can we just go back to not caring anymore? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it's the usual faux outrage generated by social media. Yes, the man is clearly a boorish twat, but if that were a crime our prisons would overflow.
Nobody seems to bat an eyelid at horses being whipped and forced to race for human "entertainment", at least that horse was past suffering. |
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By *adsyncMan
over a year ago
Galway City |
Feel sorry for all the staff in his yard that will be made redundant due to his irresponsible actions...
Feel sorry for the horse. Everyone deserves dignity in death (human or animal), and not sat while posing for photo.
As for him, he's already earned a financial fortune to last him a few lifetimes and over, and at the end of the day, it's Ireland, there'll be a lovely loophole to his 'sanctions' somewhere in them and he'll be back as a 'consultant' type in no time, earning the big bucks again. I'm sure he'll be alright. |
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"I find what he did completely inappropriate and shows a lack of respect for the animals he trains.Yes the horse is dead and I know that nobody wanted that to happen and if it had been my horse (not that I've ever had horses in training ) I would have been beyond furious at him .I've lost horses before and it's horrible BUT I would never pose for a photo on any of the ones that died and I don't believe his story but I do think it was a spur of the moment thing though and he didn't actually mean any harm if that makes sense .
I do think however that the reaction has gotten way out of line.And is a massive over reaction by some .The relevant authorities are already looking into it and he has lost horses that people have moved from him to other trainers.I think he has already paid for a spur of the moment act of stupidity and the witch hunt that is continuing especially with threats etc is complete and utter over reaction .I wouldn't be a fan of his even before this but he doesn't deserve what is happening to him now."
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Gordon was wron he made a big big mistake . And he will pay a big price . But all the bullshit on Facebook that he is cruel to hi horses is amazing . People like him love his horses . Feel sorry for his 70 staff also . .just wondering what the woman who posted the photo is thinking now . Ok he had an affair with somelse . But did she have to destroy his and possibly dozens of others lives . I dont think so . So folks ..A WOMAN scorned ... she wasn't to concerned about the horse when it actually happ as it is not a recent pic .. lets hope he is not driven to far and does something bad . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What he has done is give a massive boost to the animal anti cruelty league. It was a hideous thing to do and I would wonder at the mindset of a man who thought this was a good idea. I'd be amazed if this was a one off. I'm against directly trolling people on social media but you reap what you so sometimes. The jockey didn't do himself any favours either in the other incident. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What’s everyone’s opinion here? Yes I believe he was totally wrong in what he done, but he’s getting abused to the last from anything I see on social media. The man is human too and anyone can make mistakes. I think he may just take it on the chin and everyone should move on."
I agree with above. Image wasn't a good look even Gordon admits that. But is that the worst thing in horse racing. What happens to dead horses, use of the whip, gambling addiction, middle Eastern horse owners abducting their daughters....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a dreadful photo that tells of a deeply callous attitude to the animals in his care.
As a leading horse trainer who should know better, and has influence in his industry, he deserves all the vitriol he gets.
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it was wrong, 100% and he knows it but the way he's been scrutinised is a disgrace. brilliant horse trainer who could have his career ruined by a mistake. someone released the footage, everyone saw it, fine him, he made a mistake,life moves on. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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Just from working in that industry i never once saw a horse mistreated by anyone in any yard or stables
We know the photo was released because of him having an affair so it was timed to cause as much damage as possible which it has
He should have told the truth with his apology
He's sorry the horse died and that he was showing off ...
Ted walsh was very good on the radio discussing it
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"Just from working in that industry i never once saw a horse mistreated by anyone in any yard or stables
We know the photo was released because of him having an affair so it was timed to cause as much damage as possible which it has
He should have told the truth with his apology
He's sorry the horse died and that he was showing off ...
Ted walsh was very good on the radio discussing it
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ted walsh is the best i have heard speaking about it so far |
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By *adylaceWoman
over a year ago
Waterford City |
However we all feel about what he did. He should know well the world that we live in these days and should have guessed that if a pic like that got out he would be vilified for it. He's meant to be a high profile professional and should have known better. |
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Yes he should have known better . Bad mistake . Of which he is paying a big price for it . Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ...everyone makes some sort of mistake in their lifetime . This is Gordon's. Hope after his punishment he can get on with his life . . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Madness totally blown out of proportion, at the end of the day hes the one that takes a loss when the horse dies, I think he got on the wrong side of someone in the media or someone with close ties to the media we had a FG election candidate jailed last week for fraud and it didn't get near the media coverage this is getting |
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While I do think it's turned into a bit of a lynching, there is an underlying issue. If he can treat an animal in his care that has just collapsed and died with such ambivalence, it raises questions to his attitude to the live animals in his care. I'm sure the top horses get the best of care, but it's the ones lower down the list I'd be a little concerned for |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Goodman had half the country eating horses and there wasn’t half the backlash,
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Oh that had me laughing out loud!!! Very funny.
Faux outrage is after all all the rage these days. |
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He only has himself to blame and then his statement only made it worse, no sympathy here. It will be interesting to see what the Irish racing board do tomorrow, will they fudge it like all the other controversy and hope it goes away or will they for once man up and issue prober discipline. The British did and acted swiftly , fair play to them |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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Jesus Christ the horse was dead you'd swear he had killed it with a hatchet on Instagram for likes.
Once it was dead it became a half ton of dog food would there be this much of a curfuffle if he was to sit on a stack of dog food tins for a photo.
I hope all the out raged people never eat or use animal products again if you've never been in a slaughter house then you're in for a shock when you see where your meat comes from. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts "
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
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How completely insulting to people who work in that industry and have dedicated their lives to the care of the horses. And also not true in 90 per cent of the cases either. Yes there are some corrupt but then you have that in everything but hey tar everyone with the one brush there .  |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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I did say the main fault because I think gambling is a terrible addiction and too many people are hooked on it
That's not a reflection of those that work in the stables and such but it is a reflection on the trainers and owners who plan these wins and loses
It happens a lot in my experience |
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts "
Such a mature response after he declined to answer what he used to blood his animals  |
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I know absolutely nothing about racing and apart from a bet on the grand national years ago that's the entirety of my involvement in betting.
My knowledge of horses is that they have a leg on each corner.
My grandfather had numerous jobs over his lifetime and one of those was recovering dead animals and he often told stories about having his lunch sitting next to a dead horse or cow.
When Eliot said he had done it without thinking I assumed he had casually sat on the horse as he was on the phone but when I saw the pic it was obviously posed and he was sitting astride it for his insta moment.
It was a stupid and idiotic thing to do but that's not unique to him. Stupid and idiotic things are said and done on here every day including on this very thread.
As I've already said I have no experience with the racing fraternity but I'm always amazed when sweeping generalisations are made and fingers pointed based on something read on Twitter or passed on by Tracy on Facebook.
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Such a mature response after he declined to answer what he used to blood his animals "
Here's another one wanting to jump on the band wagon, rabbits I used |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"I did say the main fault because I think gambling is a terrible addiction and too many people are hooked on it
That's not a reflection of those that work in the stables and such but it is a reflection on the trainers and owners who plan these wins and loses
It happens a lot in my experience "
It is actually a reflection and anyone who has or works in this industry will see it .The same crap that is heard all the time .No actual credit given to all the hard work that the vast majority do .
I always wonder tho how come these so called people with all this massive "inside" info are never millionaires if they have so much info .
I'm done talking about it as I should know better at this stage . |
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
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Fox hunting has been around for hundreds of years, it's a tradition. They hunt foxes for pest control, do you know what they do or are you just so worried about the cuddly animal being killed? Nothing about them killing rabbits, hares, sheep, poultry for the pure fun of it!!
That's all it is your opinion doesn't matter a fuck! How is the greyhound industry barbaric?
Yeah people 'stop' horses to get them down in the handicap it's the only chance some have of getting a winner and making ends meat! If you don't like it don't follow racing go find something you like and can't give out about! |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
Fox hunting has been around for hundreds of years, it's a tradition. They hunt foxes for pest control, do you know what they do or are you just so worried about the cuddly animal being killed? Nothing about them killing rabbits, hares, sheep, poultry for the pure fun of it!!
That's all it is your opinion doesn't matter a fuck! How is the greyhound industry barbaric?
Yeah people 'stop' horses to get them down in the handicap it's the only chance some have of getting a winner and making ends meat! If you don't like it don't follow racing go find something you like and can't give out about! "
Fox hunting is pest control ?? Unless you mean shooting foxes you don't know what pest control is. If you mean chasing a fox with hounds on horseback then you mean a bloodsport and that should be banned |
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Because you saw afew dogs being killed on rte the whole industry is barbaric? Anyone ever tell you not to paint everyone with the one brush? They're is always some bad people in every thing we do, those figures of dogs being bred and going missing were blown up by the media for sheep like you! And those figures on money are false! |
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
How completely insulting to people who work in that industry and have dedicated their lives to the care of the horses. And also not true in 90 per cent of the cases either. Yes there are some corrupt but then you have that in everything but hey tar everyone with the one brush there . "
I'd say closer to 98% but handicap marks are looked for deliberately and it is the certain few yards who are known for it but certainly in the main not the case.
Any sport which involves betting will always have an element of corruption which we have seen in football, snooker and even cricket among others. |
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
Fox hunting has been around for hundreds of years, it's a tradition. They hunt foxes for pest control, do you know what they do or are you just so worried about the cuddly animal being killed? Nothing about them killing rabbits, hares, sheep, poultry for the pure fun of it!!
That's all it is your opinion doesn't matter a fuck! How is the greyhound industry barbaric?
Yeah people 'stop' horses to get them down in the handicap it's the only chance some have of getting a winner and making ends meat! If you don't like it don't follow racing go find something you like and can't give out about!
Fox hunting is pest control ?? Unless you mean shooting foxes you don't know what pest control is. If you mean chasing a fox with hounds on horseback then you mean a bloodsport and that should be banned"
Where did it come from? what's its history you bellend? It was a means for conservation and pest control, you think back in the 16th century the boyos said we'll go for the sport of it? That's your opinion, I think you should go mind your own business but hey that's just my opinion! |
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"I know absolutely nothing about racing and apart from a bet on the grand national years ago that's the entirety of my involvement in betting.
My knowledge of horses is that they have a leg on each corner.
My grandfather had numerous jobs over his lifetime and one of those was recovering dead animals and he often told stories about having his lunch sitting next to a dead horse or cow.
When Eliot said he had done it without thinking I assumed he had casually sat on the horse as he was on the phone but when I saw the pic it was obviously posed and he was sitting astride it for his insta moment.
It was a stupid and idiotic thing to do but that's not unique to him. Stupid and idiotic things are said and done on here every day including on this very thread.
As I've already said I have no experience with the racing fraternity but I'm always amazed when sweeping generalisations are made and fingers pointed based on something read on Twitter or passed on by Tracy on Facebook.
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Tracy has an awful lot to answer for. Can’t keep her gob shut that wan!!! |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
Fox hunting has been around for hundreds of years, it's a tradition. They hunt foxes for pest control, do you know what they do or are you just so worried about the cuddly animal being killed? Nothing about them killing rabbits, hares, sheep, poultry for the pure fun of it!!
That's all it is your opinion doesn't matter a fuck! How is the greyhound industry barbaric?
Yeah people 'stop' horses to get them down in the handicap it's the only chance some have of getting a winner and making ends meat! If you don't like it don't follow racing go find something you like and can't give out about!
Fox hunting is pest control ?? Unless you mean shooting foxes you don't know what pest control is. If you mean chasing a fox with hounds on horseback then you mean a bloodsport and that should be banned
Where did it come from? what's its history you bellend? It was a means for conservation and pest control, you think back in the 16th century the boyos said we'll go for the sport of it? That's your opinion, I think you should go mind your own business but hey that's just my opinion! "
Are you for real ?? In the 1500s they would have trapped or snared foxes as pest control. Fox hunting has always been a sport it has nothing to do with pest control. Same as hunting stags with hounds, hare coursing , dog fighting etc it's always been about sport. Was there any need for name calling if you can't get your point across without calling names it shows your intellectual level. |
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By *aid backMan
over a year ago
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"Look it up come back to me then!
That's why there's need for name calling "
 I think you'll find name calling is uncalled for on the forum full stop. Send me the link to where you looked it up ?? |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
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"Same snowflakes again hunting, coursing and horseracing feck off ya melts
Dogs pulling foxes apart is not sport,fun or entertainment
Anyone that enjoys it is not right in the head
Coursing is barbaric and is used to feed into the greyhound industry which should be closed down in my opinion
Horseracing's main fault is that it's fixed so the ordinary punter doesn't have the inside track but all the connections do.
I'm told regularly when to bet and when not to bet on certain horses as some races are designed to get their odds up for the next time so that more money can be made by those in the know
How completely insulting to people who work in that industry and have dedicated their lives to the care of the horses. And also not true in 90 per cent of the cases either. Yes there are some corrupt but then you have that in everything but hey tar everyone with the one brush there .
I'd say closer to 98% but handicap marks are looked for deliberately and it is the certain few yards who are known for it but certainly in the main not the case.
Any sport which involves betting will always have an element of corruption which we have seen in football, snooker and even cricket among others."
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
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Point taken about betting in general,personal experience of someone close losing everything because of betting on racing so thats what guides me
I love the craic at a race meet and bet only very small amounts that i can afford and as i said before I've never seen mistreatment of a horse in a stables or stud farm
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