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By *erandhim500 OP   Couple  over a year ago

around

Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it !

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman  over a year ago

My town

Yes I will

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

Already have taken it.

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By *erandhim500 OP   Couple  over a year ago

around


"Already have taken it. "

Any side effects for u ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I want to take it too.

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By *ustBoWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Already have taken it.

Any side effects for u ? "

Just a slightly sore arm for a day or two. And out of everyone who did take it here that's the most that anyone had. And it was only an ache anyhow it wasn't that bad at all.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! "
i will take it if it means getting back to normal but I have spoken to many people who won't take it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Already had it.

Anyone who refuses the vaccine and can later be linked to transmission of it should be open to litigation and charges. Hopefully such people are also banned from foreign travel.

There comes a time when such absolute idiots and their self proclaimed "but it's my right" views should face the consequences. Ie when there is a global pandemic costing the global economy billions and taking millions of lives world wide. This is about more than them. If these people cant see that they don't deserve to share our planet. ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I’ll take it.

We have to deny this virus the opportunity of mutating into something more deadly and the only place it can mutate is when it’s replicating inside your body.

So, yes, I will take this vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'll take it. I do trust it was tried and tested well, and all the measures were taken to ensure its safe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! i will take it if it means getting back to normal but I have spoken to many people who won't take it. "

Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection.

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By *osmicGateMan  over a year ago

louth


"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! "

Absolutely I will.. Anybody who refuses is an idiot

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By *onedbodMan  over a year ago

co Galway

No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick

Anyone who wants to go on holidays abroad this year will have to take it, so I would imagine most will

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done "

You do that pal! You continue to put others at risk! I hope airlines and countries make it part of passport control. This is about more than you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, trice

Just to be sure

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done "

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes if it helps us and everyone around us.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

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the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

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By *nd_then_sheWoman  over a year ago

cork

If I'm eligible I'll take it 100%

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. "

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly.

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By *adylaceWoman  over a year ago

Waterford City

I'm still not sure that I trust these companies to know the longterm side effects of this vaccine but having said that. I will take it when offered if it will help the country get back to some form of normality and keep the vulnerable safe. I feel the reward outweighs the risk. That's just my opinion. Not looking to get into any debates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, I'll be taking it when offered.

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man  over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin

I’ll absolutely take the vaccine whenever it’s my turn to get it.

However just a point on those refusing the vaccination.

If they refuse the vaccine, surely sooner or later they’ll catch the virus and get immunity from the antibodies their body produces when it fights the virus.

So the end result is the same but they’ll suffer more to get it. A jab in the arm versus 2 weeks of misery

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. "

people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

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By *reland8Man  over a year ago

sandyford

Yes!!! Can’t wait to take it

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By *reland8Man  over a year ago

sandyford


"Already had it.

Anyone who refuses the vaccine and can later be linked to transmission of it should be open to litigation and charges. Hopefully such people are also banned from foreign travel.

There comes a time when such absolute idiots and their self proclaimed "but it's my right" views should face the consequences. Ie when there is a global pandemic costing the global economy billions and taking millions of lives world wide. This is about more than them. If these people cant see that they don't deserve to share our planet. ??"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’ll absolutely take the vaccine whenever it’s my turn to get it.

However just a point on those refusing the vaccination.

If they refuse the vaccine, surely sooner or later they’ll catch the virus and get immunity from the antibodies their body produces when it fights the virus.

So the end result is the same but they’ll suffer more to get it. A jab in the arm versus 2 weeks of misery"

That's what they think. Selfish people, let others take the risk. However, as we know the virus mutates and their immune system won't be primed should a particularly aggressive strain develop, that would be interesting and perhaps karma. But even with milder strains as carriers they will continue to propagate the virus in the community.

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By *roblemfactoryMan  over a year ago

Blanchardstown

I want it! Don't think I'm near the top of the list though...

Funny, I've never had any interest in blood play, but since a friend of mine got the jab, I'm starting to harbour vampiric desires towards her. Let me drink, you beauty, drink of the blood that cleanses! And then I wake up covered in cum. If I have to have this dream for the next eight or ten months it's... fine, I guess. Lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. "

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Of course I'd take it and be very glad of it too if it helps us get past all this tomfoolery. I respect anyones decision if they don't want to take it for their own legitimate reasons but there's idiots that won't take it cause its "my right" because "I don't want to be under a spell" well those ppl should get an injection of a different kind. I can't wait to hear the muppets who say they won't take it until they want to go to their holiday in Spain and not allowed to travel without it and then it's a case of " why do I have to wait so long to get this vaccine".

Is that a rant ? I don't know if it's a rant or not but some ppl can be so stupid

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By *og-ManMan  over a year ago

somewhere

I'll take it once I'm offered it and while I agree with the sediment there's no way a court would order that someone is vaccinated against their will

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, but it's likely to be late summer at the earliest before we get a sniff of it, being in the 14th category out of 15.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. "

going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'll take it once I'm offered it and while I agree with the sediment there's no way a court would order that someone is vaccinated against their will

"

No one said they should. But if that individual who refused the vaccine can be proven to have passed it on to someone else then they should face the consequences.

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man  over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin

On another note, one which I’m guilty of myself.

No offence meant to anyone btw

This discussion is kind of why we have idiotic anti-vaxxers in the first place. Unregulated Internet platforms where people discuss incredibly complicated vaccinations with little or no in-depth knowledge. The most convincing argument wins instead of the most factual.

Luckily most people here seem to be on the side of common sense.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary

let's hope the vaccine works, thats the biggest conundrum in this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To quote Christy Moore...."I'd take all five vaccines, in both arms, at the same time"

Lee

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality."

Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mutate, not mural

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality.

Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet.

"

as I said in my post, should the vaccine be mandatory then? there is very few if any vaccine mandatory in life. are you saying your life should be curtailed if u refuse a vaccine?

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By *DGF20Man  over a year ago

Dublin

Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice...

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City

Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.


"Already have taken it. "

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. "

what does that mean? its the doozie?

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice..."

Community responsibility. You want to live in a community, you need to be responsible. If you don’t want to make an effort, don’t hang around others.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality.

Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet.

as I said in my post, should the vaccine be mandatory then? there is very few if any vaccine mandatory in life. are you saying your life should be curtailed if u refuse a vaccine?"

Yes

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?"

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

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By *xperimental CoupleCouple  over a year ago

Fab

Surely they can only pass it on to those who also refused there vaccine. Those that chose to have it should be ok and not need to worry about those that haven't?

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man  over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice...

Community responsibility. You want to live in a community, you need to be responsible. If you don’t want to make an effort, don’t hang around others. "

100%

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. "

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By *ateniteCouple  over a year ago

Youghal

Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it "

Yeah but have you done your own research???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. "

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. "

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

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By *eaAndBenCouple  over a year ago

Dublin

100% we’ll take it. I want to get back to normality, I want my kids in school and I want elderly family members to be able to live freely again, the endless lockdowns though necessary are so detrimental to every other aspect of their lives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I’ll take it once it’s available to me I’ll be last on any list for it so will probably have a chance to see if there’s any negative side effects or such

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By *og-ManMan  over a year ago

somewhere

TH38

Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine

Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose

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By *DGF20Man  over a year ago

Dublin

From all active cases in the world now 99.5% are mild condition or no symptoms...just saying

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By *oghunter33Woman  over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Yes, the German one please.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’ll take it once it’s available to me I’ll be last on any list for it so will probably have a chance to see if there’s any negative side effects or such "

Under 18s and pregnant women are last on the list

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I’ll take it once it’s available to me I’ll be last on any list for it so will probably have a chance to see if there’s any negative side effects or such

Under 18s and pregnant women are last on the list "

Damn my covers blown

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"From all active cases in the world now 99.5% are mild condition or no symptoms...just saying "

The people who die from it are all 100% dead though, including a number of healthcare workers.

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By *etergemmaCouple  over a year ago

South Dublin Area

No problem taking the vaccine even though i will be near the last to get it.

I do have a problem with people being forced and blackmialed into it, if they dont want to get it.

That doesn’t sit right with me whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"TH38

Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine

Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose

"

Personally think the 12 week thing is a slight compromise but makes sense. Its been adopted to allow more of the population to have the first dose on the vaccine in the interim. Rather than having to run the first and second dosing program alongside each other which takes up more resources and is logistically more challenging. Thus conferring some immunity in a bigger percentage of the population. You have to remember the difference in sheer population numbers between the UK and even some of their major cities and the whole population of Ireland. Logistically its easier for Ireland to roll it out as initially scheduled.

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By *inaandterryCouple  over a year ago

Westmeath

Damn sure, I think for society as a whole we have to.

Do I like it, probably not there have been side effects and a number of people have gotten sick from the vaccine.

At the begining I was a strong apponent for herd immunity but I've come to realise that we need a vaccine, that our country needs a return to some sort of normality.

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick

Facebook is not a reliable source of information ... scientifically published papers ARE.

Just because little Mary got sick after getting a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused it.

Doing 'your own research' should not involve social media platforms where people are too quick to jump to conclusions.

Correlation does not mean causation

Mrs

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick

(Rant over)

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By *etergemmaCouple  over a year ago

South Dublin Area


"(Rant over) "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? "

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering.

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By *artinaAndrewCouple  over a year ago

mountmellick

I'd take it yesterday if I could..

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"TH38

Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine

Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose

"

Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision.

Time will tell whether it has a negative impact.

The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"TH38

Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine

Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose

Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision.

Time will tell whether it has a negative impact.

The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have. "

Aren’t UK using the Astra-Zenca vaccine though?

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. "

Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily.

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By *imdm101Man  over a year ago

Galway

Yes, I'll take it, but like many others here, it will be quite some time before I am offered it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering.

Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily. "

That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection. "

Isolate yourself and leave it to be my decision whether i need a vaccine or not. I can take care of myself and don't need your attention.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"TH38

Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine

Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose

Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision.

Time will tell whether it has a negative impact.

The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have.

Aren’t UK using the Astra-Zenca vaccine though? "

My brother in law got the Pfizer vaccine before Christmas in Scotland.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe she is as entitled to scaremonger as you are to force your opinions down peoples throats.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Just because little Mary got sick after getting a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused it.

"

And the same refers to virus

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By *ichael McCarthyMan  over a year ago

Lucan


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering.

Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily.

That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently. "

Because it was noticeable after the second dose much more than after the first dose during the trial period in the US. There's no mystery around it.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"

Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection.

Isolate yourself and leave it to be my decision whether i need a vaccine or not. I can take care of myself and don't need your attention. "

that's in reality what the vaccine is. if you're nervous about it entering your body, you ain't going to take it for the good of others. I have no fear and I'd love normality even to some degree. I only see that with a vaccine.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary

Are there any health care professionals on here??doctors...nurses?

Or anyone working in pharma or biopharma...

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick


"

Just because little Mary got sick after getting a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused it.

And the same refers to virus"

Totally agree, it would apply to everything

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By *eaAndBenCouple  over a year ago

Dublin

It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family "

That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke...

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. "

Scaremongering LOL!! FFS!!! It’s a heads up, not a warning. If adults can’t handle one bad day cos of a Vax, they don’t deserve the title of adults.

Blanket refusal to admit that anything could go wrong is a major issue. People get bad reactions all the time, and antivaxers feed off “100% effective, nothing can go wrong” bolloxology.

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By *eaAndBenCouple  over a year ago

Dublin


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke..."

You’re not putting others at risk by a hidden virus when you smoke and for which there is a vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering.

Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily.

That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently.

Because it was noticeable after the second dose much more than after the first dose during the trial period in the US. There's no mystery around it. "

Well we're about to find out very soon aren't we. I'll be sure to let you know my 'anecdotal' evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke...

You’re not putting others at risk by a hidden virus when you smoke and for which there is a vaccine."

Passive smoking, drink driving put others at risk through personal choices, all entirely preventable.

For the state to start denying people treatment because of personal choices they made which may impact the health of others is a very slippery slope, morally appealing though it might seem at first glance.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Here endth the lesson

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed.

Already have taken it.

It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?

It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off.

Personally don't buy this. Time will tell.

Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now?

I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering.

Scaremongering LOL!! FFS!!! It’s a heads up, not a warning. If adults can’t handle one bad day cos of a Vax, they don’t deserve the title of adults.

Blanket refusal to admit that anything could go wrong is a major issue. People get bad reactions all the time, and antivaxers feed off “100% effective, nothing can go wrong” bolloxology. "

Like I said above, it happens with some with the first dose. It's not anything 'going wrong' it's a vaccine, it causes am immune response. Same way some individuals get something similar after the flu vaccine. By making it a thing youre feeding antivaxers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. "

Yes I will take it

But I'd consider not taking it just to annoy the likes of you with your dogmatic attitude. Can you not understand why people are hesitant about taking a vaccine that was developed within the last months. If not then a quick tutorial here isn't going to help here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family "

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received."

I would extend this thought. The level of abuse towards people with a different view on this casedemic is unprecedented

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd take it.

EU seem to be way behind in roll out. Israel gonna has 2mil vaccinated by end of Jan.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received.

I would extend this thought. The level of abuse towards people with a different view on this casedemic is unprecedented "

Id agree 100% at the end of the day everyone is just doing what they think is right for them and their families, but the level of abuse when you dont just do as your told or you dare to question is unreal

Myself and Mr Smyth have different views but we are respectful adults so we just get on with it.

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By *ay_Gatsby_D4Man  over a year ago

City Centre, Dublin


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. "

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far."

nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done

Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!!

Oh wait........

the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff.

You don't think I get that??

There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post.

My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people???

And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment.

You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it.

Yes I will take it

But I'd consider not taking it just to annoy the likes of you with your dogmatic attitude. Can you not understand why people are hesitant about taking a vaccine that was developed within the last months. If not then a quick tutorial here isn't going to help here "

Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Front line staff are excellent but it's the guys and gals in suits that are useless.

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received."

I got death threats on Facebook because I said ( jokingly) that all people in social housing and recipients of welfare payments should be made get the vaccine I never in a million years thought I'd get the reaction I did

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

On the vaccine if happily take it. God knows what I put in my body in the 90s so a little vaccine doesn't scare me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. "

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it "

Hahahah my god this is funny an sooo true all them fuck*ng Facebook doctors are a joke

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By *ateniteCouple  over a year ago

Youghal


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

Yeah but have you done your own research???

"

Yes, thank you for asking.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. "

I didn't elect anybody.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. "

Did you vote

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer! "

Actually virus mutates in an opposite direction.

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By *elfastman..Man  over a year ago

belfast

Yes il probably take it, I'd rather listen to a scientist than same idiot online spouting off a lot of shite.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary


"

Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer!

Actually virus mutates in an opposite direction. "

come again....

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you vote"

no. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. "

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even vote

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

Yeah but have you done your own research???

Yes, thank you for asking."

Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

RTÉ research is way more reliable.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"RTÉ research is way more reliable. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *ateniteCouple  over a year ago

Youghal


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

Yeah but have you done your own research???

Yes, thank you for asking.

Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube. "

Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone

But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even vote"

read my comment again.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

Yeah but have you done your own research???

Yes, thank you for asking.

Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube.

Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone

But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not. "

problem with this and it's not fb, it's all experts have diff opinions and their all been stated weekly. Also the WHO have continously stated from the start, lockdowns are for when all else fails. Have we tried all else? I don't think so.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. "

I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate...

So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again.

I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate...

So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done"

I'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again.

I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate...

So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done"

plus, even if I did vote and my party got into power, I'd still slate when it's obvious the right things are not been done.

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By *oo32Man  over a year ago

tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again.

I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate...

So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well doneI'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem. "

No it's ok...I read it alright the first time

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family

I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway.

I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet.

I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population.

Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody.

Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same.

Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again.

I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate...

So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well doneI'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem.

No it's ok...I read it alright the first time "

good man.

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By *im44Man  over a year ago

traveling with work, but mainly Ovens Cork

Not a chance

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice..."

My guess, if her workplace has already gotten it the jab, it's because they are working closely with covid, so probably in a hospital or a nursing home where the horrors of Covid are seen on a daily basis and has made their work life exponentially more difficult the last year.

I'd be super surprised if anyone in that position wouldnt feel the pros far outweigh the cons. The stigma alone from your colleagues and patients would be enough for me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some will, some won't, and some can't, nobodies business but they're own

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By *eecee2727Man  over a year ago

seaside


"Here endth the lesson "

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By *og-ManMan  over a year ago

somewhere

Anya just in connection with the aborted foetus bit of your post

I'm not a catholic but the pope released a statement about that over the holidays

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By *entleman PoliteMan  over a year ago

Mars

Certainly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good news mortality is not an issue. This is something I know since April maybe, but am very curious what is a new issue we have now in 2021?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is not my post but explains better than I ever could:

Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine contents:

ALC-0315 = (4-hydroxybutyl) azanediyl)bis (hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate) (THIS IS A TYPE OF FAT THAT MAKES UP THE LIPID BUBBLE THAT ENCASES THE VACCINE MATERIAL)

ALC-0159 = 2-[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide

(THIS IS A TYPE OF FAT FOR THE BUBBLE TOO)

1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine (THIS IS A TYPE OF FAT FOR THE BUBBLE AS WELL)

cholesterol (THIS IS ALSO A TYPE OF FAT - THE SAME CHOLESTEROL FOUND IN YOUR CELLS

potassium chloride (A SALT SIMILAR TO SODIUM CHLORIDE (ALSO INCLUDED))

potassium dihydrogen phosphate (THIS IS A CHEMICAL CALLED A BUFFER WHICH HELPS MAINTAIN A STEADY pH FOR THE VACCINE CONTENTS)

sodium chloride (SALT, LIKE YOU PUT ON YOUR CHIPS)

disodium hydrogen phosphate dihydrate (MORE pH BUFFERING)

sucrose (SUGAR, THE SORT YOU PUT ON YOUR CORNFLAKES)

water for injections (DEIONISED, BUT OTHERWISE EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT'S IN THE TAPS)

mRNA encoding the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein

The AZ-Oxford vaccine contains:

Weakened adenovirus encoding the SARS CoV 2 Spike glycoprotein (THE ADENOVIRUS USUALLY INFECTS CHIMPS BUT CANNOT REPLICATE IN HUMAN CELLS. THE GENE FOR THE SPIKE PROTEIN HAS BEEN INSERTED INTO THIS VIRUS VEHICLE)

L-histidine (AN AMINO ACID - MAKES UP PROTEINS IN OUR BODIES)

L-histidine hydrochloride monohydrate (A FURTHER SOURCE OF THE AMINO ACID HISTIDINE, USED IN FLAVOURING FOOD TOO)

magnesium chloride hexahydrate (A SALT OF MAGNESIUM WITH 6 WATER MOLECULES ATTACHED, HENCE THE HEXAHYDRATE. MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE IS THE SOURCE OF MAGNESIUM IN SUPPLEMENTS)

polysorbate 80 (AN EMULSIFIER/SURFACTANT USED IN THE MANUFACTURE OF FOODS SUCH AS ICE CREAM AND IN MAKE UP TOO)

ethanol (ALCOHOL, TO DISSOLVE THE POLYSORBATE 80)

sucrose (THE SAME SUGAR AS ABOVE)

sodium chloride (THE SAME SALT AS ABOVE)

disodium edetate dihydrate (ANOTHER TYPE OF pH BUFFER)

water for injections (SELF EXPLANATORY)

The chimp adenovirus in the AZ-Oxford vaccine are grown in human embryonic kidney cells. The cells used to grow the Oxford virus are derived from a female embryo in the 1970s - obviously the original cells are no more, but have been replicated many, many times. No cellular material remains when the virus is included in the vaccine - the virus sample is washed with special chemicals many times to remove any trace.

All this information is freely available online, I have added simplified explanation in uppercase.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Good news mortality is not an issue. This is something I know since April maybe, but am very curious what is a new issue we have now in 2021?"

If you know so much then you don't need me to tell you what the other issues are

Or perhaps you're being deliberately obtuse again

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OK so you are not going to say.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, asap

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"OK so you are not going to say. "

What's the point?

Incidentally, I said mortality is not the ONLY issue. I didn't say it's not an issue. It's very much an issue for those who have lost their lives

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 04/01/21 19:13:18]

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As usually when we loose relatives, but we don't ruin everybody else's lives, particularly if average mortality below 70 is.0.05% based on the official research by WHO made across 51 countries

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it

Yeah but have you done your own research???

Yes, thank you for asking.

Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube.

Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone

But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not. "

Oh for a vaccine against stupidity...

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"

The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly"

It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As usually when we loose relatives, but we don't ruin everybody else's lives, particularly if average mortality below 70 is.0.05% based on the official research by WHO made across 51 countries"

Do those lives not have value?

And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly

It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria. "

We would agree with you. Most people who spout that crap believe whatever they are told.

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By *osmicGateMan  over a year ago

louth

Woman in Portugal died suddenly 2 days after getting pfizer vaccine

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


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The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly

It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria.

We would agree with you. Most people who spout that crap believe whatever they are told. "

Once it gives them someone to judge that is....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Do those lives not have value?

And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment"

Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April.

How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Do those lives not have value?

And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment

Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April.

How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you? "

Of course they do. Which is why I advocate following the guidelines to reduce the strain on the health service rather than disregarding all of that, decrying it as nonsense and thus perpetuating the problem

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Do those lives not have value?

And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment

Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April.

How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you? "

Anyway let's not derail the thread for the OP who asked who would be having the vaccine.

If my memory serves me correctly you're dead against that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

3rd lockdown with the same effect, i.e. Nothing has changed. All done against low mortality risk. The alternative cost became way higher long time ago, but more has to die.

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By *scouple07Couple  over a year ago

louth, Ireland

We will as soon as its available to us

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By *oung3sumCouple  over a year ago

tipperary

We both will take it, I think the reality is the vast majority of people will take it, social media seems to give a false representation of the amount of people who will refuse to take it, if you actually look at the names of the people commenting on Facebook that they won’t take it it’s the same people over and over on different pages , and the people who say they won’t take it are just shouting the loudest, remember an empty can makes the most noise

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By *ealitybitesMan  over a year ago

Belfast

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

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By *aggie MaeWoman  over a year ago

Just out and about

Will the vaccine work against the new varient of covid

The new covid started around the same time as the vaccine roll out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Will the vaccine work against the new varient of covid

The new covid started around the same time as the vaccine roll out "

Good question. Time will tell i suppose.

Take lots of vitamins to help our immune system cope with the virus

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By *onedbodMan  over a year ago

co Galway

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

As I said previously, correlation does not equal causation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

The supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been thoroughly debunked many times over by actual science rather than anecdotal evidence.

Fuck me sideways

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Think it's only natural for some people to be wary to take it. This one was meant to be totally safe too. The fact the companies that are manufacturing the covid have liability protection would have to make u think about it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/pandemrix-vaccine-15-year-old-damages-5255402-Nov2020/%3famp=1

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

The supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been thoroughly debunked many times over by actual science rather than anecdotal evidence.

Fuck me sideways "

Just saying the rise in autism coincided with the mmr introduction

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By *ed just RedWoman  over a year ago

Dublin City


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital "

She works with the poor souls that suffered brain damage in the days and weeks after receiving their mmr shot. Doubt you will be attending that hospital

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By *allyWally19Woman  over a year ago

The Road to Nowhere

Gimme!

Like many, am way down on the list but for sure....gimme!

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By *ofusplusCouple  over a year ago

Limerick


"Gimme!

Like many, am way down on the list but for sure....gimme! "

Horse it into me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are they developing a suppository version...

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By *aid backMan  over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

18 months ago I was playing football and broke my hand. That morning I had cornflakes for breakfast I've not eaten cornflakes since and I've also not broke my hand since therefore cornflakes caused me to break my hands

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan  over a year ago

Tipperary


"Gimme!

Like many, am way down on the list but for sure....gimme! "

gimme gimme gimme a woman after midnight.

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By *nnie2009Couple  over a year ago

Blackpool

I'm taking the vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

Christ. Rule #1 of Data Science: Correlation does not imply causation!

Let's say your anecdotal second hand information is true. Ever stop to think it's because in the decades since the MMR was introduced, we have also had decades of research into early detecting and diagnosing Autism?

In the 80s a kid on the spectrum was just though to be the class idiot, and would never be diagnosed properly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man. "

Let's hear him out! Please, can you share a link to the peer reviewed Journal where your sister published her double blind trial research? I'd actually love to read it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof"

So what you’re saying is that there are some free rooms at the MMR Hotel? lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof

Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man. "

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Get your sleeve rolled up for your jab and wait and see if it works.. I ain't taking untested drugs

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By *elfastreal8Man  over a year ago

belfast


"Already had it.

Anyone who refuses the vaccine and can later be linked to transmission of it should be open to litigation and charges. Hopefully such people are also banned from foreign travel.

There comes a time when such absolute idiots and their self proclaimed "but it's my right" views should face the consequences. Ie when there is a global pandemic costing the global economy billions and taking millions of lives world wide. This is about more than them. If these people cant see that they don't deserve to share our planet. ??"

So if that’s the case, I’m sure you’ll agree that those who smoke shouldn’t get cancer treatment for their choice, alcoholics shouldn’t get liver replacements for their choice, drug abusers shouldn’t get any help for their choice, obese people shouldn’t get any help in regards to their eating choices? Just keeping things on a level playing field. There’s 4 massive contributors to problems the NHS faces. But sure, a vaccine for a virus with a seriously high survival rate should be treated as something necessary. attack those 4 things and 1. The nhs isn’t getting hammered 2. People are healthier with stronger immune systems.

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