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"Already have taken it. " Any side effects for u ? | |||
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"Already have taken it. Any side effects for u ? " Just a slightly sore arm for a day or two. And out of everyone who did take it here that's the most that anyone had. And it was only an ache anyhow it wasn't that bad at all. | |||
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"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! " i will take it if it means getting back to normal but I have spoken to many people who won't take it. | |||
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"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! i will take it if it means getting back to normal but I have spoken to many people who won't take it. " Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection. | |||
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"Interested to see how many will actually take the vaccine when it’s offered ? I’m due to have it this month,some of my colleagues are not going to have it which surprised me I thought most people would jump at the chance to have it ! " Absolutely I will.. Anybody who refuses is an idiot | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done " You do that pal! You continue to put others at risk! I hope airlines and countries make it part of passport control. This is about more than you. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done " Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ " the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. " You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. " people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. | |||
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"Already had it. Anyone who refuses the vaccine and can later be linked to transmission of it should be open to litigation and charges. Hopefully such people are also banned from foreign travel. There comes a time when such absolute idiots and their self proclaimed "but it's my right" views should face the consequences. Ie when there is a global pandemic costing the global economy billions and taking millions of lives world wide. This is about more than them. If these people cant see that they don't deserve to share our planet. ??" | |||
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"I’ll absolutely take the vaccine whenever it’s my turn to get it. However just a point on those refusing the vaccination. If they refuse the vaccine, surely sooner or later they’ll catch the virus and get immunity from the antibodies their body produces when it fights the virus. So the end result is the same but they’ll suffer more to get it. A jab in the arm versus 2 weeks of misery" That's what they think. Selfish people, let others take the risk. However, as we know the virus mutates and their immune system won't be primed should a particularly aggressive strain develop, that would be interesting and perhaps karma. But even with milder strains as carriers they will continue to propagate the virus in the community. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. " You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. " going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality. | |||
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"I'll take it once I'm offered it and while I agree with the sediment there's no way a court would order that someone is vaccinated against their will " No one said they should. But if that individual who refused the vaccine can be proven to have passed it on to someone else then they should face the consequences. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality." Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality. Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet. " as I said in my post, should the vaccine be mandatory then? there is very few if any vaccine mandatory in life. are you saying your life should be curtailed if u refuse a vaccine? | |||
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"Already have taken it. " It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. " what does that mean? its the doozie? | |||
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"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice..." Community responsibility. You want to live in a community, you need to be responsible. If you don’t want to make an effort, don’t hang around others. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. going by that logic, it would be mandatory for everyone to get vaccinated, but its not. if vulnerable people (who are most at risk of serious complications/ dying) are vaccinated, that's half the solution in all of this to getting the country open and back to somewhat normality. Like I said, you don't understand viruses. So you'd allow the virus to remain widespread and mutal in the community in people who you perceive to not be the vulnerable category? More widespread equals more mutations equals more chance of more virulent strains. Add to that no one knows who's vulnerable and who's not. How many young people die of undiagnosed cardiac conditions? How many people walking around in the perceived not vulnerable age group have undiagnosed diabetes or are borderline? Just because someone is not on medication at present does not mean they havent an underlying health problem which hasn't become overtly obvious yet. as I said in my post, should the vaccine be mandatory then? there is very few if any vaccine mandatory in life. are you saying your life should be curtailed if u refuse a vaccine?" Yes | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie?" It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. | |||
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"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice... Community responsibility. You want to live in a community, you need to be responsible. If you don’t want to make an effort, don’t hang around others. " 100% | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. " | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it " Yeah but have you done your own research??? | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. " Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. " Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? | |||
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"I’ll take it once it’s available to me I’ll be last on any list for it so will probably have a chance to see if there’s any negative side effects or such " Under 18s and pregnant women are last on the list | |||
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"I’ll take it once it’s available to me I’ll be last on any list for it so will probably have a chance to see if there’s any negative side effects or such Under 18s and pregnant women are last on the list " Damn my covers blown | |||
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"From all active cases in the world now 99.5% are mild condition or no symptoms...just saying " The people who die from it are all 100% dead though, including a number of healthcare workers. | |||
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"TH38 Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose " Personally think the 12 week thing is a slight compromise but makes sense. Its been adopted to allow more of the population to have the first dose on the vaccine in the interim. Rather than having to run the first and second dosing program alongside each other which takes up more resources and is logistically more challenging. Thus conferring some immunity in a bigger percentage of the population. You have to remember the difference in sheer population numbers between the UK and even some of their major cities and the whole population of Ireland. Logistically its easier for Ireland to roll it out as initially scheduled. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? " I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. | |||
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"TH38 Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose " Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision. Time will tell whether it has a negative impact. The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have. | |||
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"TH38 Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision. Time will tell whether it has a negative impact. The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have. " Aren’t UK using the Astra-Zenca vaccine though? | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. " Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily. " That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently. | |||
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" Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection. " Isolate yourself and leave it to be my decision whether i need a vaccine or not. I can take care of myself and don't need your attention. | |||
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"TH38 Whats your opinion on the second dose....uk seems to be pushing out to 12 weeks and saying its fine Irish Government just said they're keeping enough in storage to give people their second dose Pfizer, who know considerably more about it than the UK government, have expressed their discontent about that decision. Time will tell whether it has a negative impact. The studies originally suggested that the first dose would have an efficacy rate of about 55%, rising to 95% with the second dose. The duration of protection is suggested to be a lot longer with the second dose though so it remains to be seen how much effect the delay will have. Aren’t UK using the Astra-Zenca vaccine though? " My brother in law got the Pfizer vaccine before Christmas in Scotland. | |||
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" Just because little Mary got sick after getting a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused it. " And the same refers to virus | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily. That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently. " Because it was noticeable after the second dose much more than after the first dose during the trial period in the US. There's no mystery around it. | |||
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" Possibly need to isolate into quarantined communities those that “choose” not to take the vaccine. For their own protection. Isolate yourself and leave it to be my decision whether i need a vaccine or not. I can take care of myself and don't need your attention. " that's in reality what the vaccine is. if you're nervous about it entering your body, you ain't going to take it for the good of others. I have no fear and I'd love normality even to some degree. I only see that with a vaccine. | |||
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" Just because little Mary got sick after getting a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused it. And the same refers to virus" Totally agree, it would apply to everything | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family " That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke... | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. " Scaremongering LOL!! FFS!!! It’s a heads up, not a warning. If adults can’t handle one bad day cos of a Vax, they don’t deserve the title of adults. Blanket refusal to admit that anything could go wrong is a major issue. People get bad reactions all the time, and antivaxers feed off “100% effective, nothing can go wrong” bolloxology. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke..." You’re not putting others at risk by a hidden virus when you smoke and for which there is a vaccine. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. Some of the scientists involved in the Pfizer studies in the US suggested that people should make an allowance for taking a day off work following the second dose, especially people over 55.it's no big deal but has caused low level muscle pain for some and fatigue for others. Nothing worse than feeling a bit under the weather for a day. I'd take that happily. That's the same as the first dose in some. So I don't see why the second dose would be treated any differently. Because it was noticeable after the second dose much more than after the first dose during the trial period in the US. There's no mystery around it. " Well we're about to find out very soon aren't we. I'll be sure to let you know my 'anecdotal' evidence. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family That's a dangerous path to go down IMO, people are advised by doctors not to smoke... You’re not putting others at risk by a hidden virus when you smoke and for which there is a vaccine." Passive smoking, drink driving put others at risk through personal choices, all entirely preventable. For the state to start denying people treatment because of personal choices they made which may impact the health of others is a very slippery slope, morally appealing though it might seem at first glance. | |||
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"Absolutely yes I will. I’m as adamant about this vax as all of them though. I refused to let my family see my newborns until they had had an up to date t-dap too. Unforch, I have 2 close family members who CANT have this Vax (yet) as they have a history of anaphylaxis, therefore it’s my duty to see me and mine are vaxed. Already have taken it. It’s the 2nd dose that’s the doozie. Mind yourself doll. what does that mean? its the doozie? It’s supposed to be pretty strong and a few mates (all Vax, different countries) have said that the 2nd dose can cause headaches and minor Covid symptoms. Just anecdotal. Friends in the US are taking time off. Personally don't buy this. Time will tell. Well you’ve picked out all my posts so what are you disagreeing with now? I don't see the science behind it and as you said it's anecdotal. Can you explain why that should happen with the second dose? As I said, time will tell and we'll find out very soon. Otherwise it's just scaremongering. Scaremongering LOL!! FFS!!! It’s a heads up, not a warning. If adults can’t handle one bad day cos of a Vax, they don’t deserve the title of adults. Blanket refusal to admit that anything could go wrong is a major issue. People get bad reactions all the time, and antivaxers feed off “100% effective, nothing can go wrong” bolloxology. " Like I said above, it happens with some with the first dose. It's not anything 'going wrong' it's a vaccine, it causes am immune response. Same way some individuals get something similar after the flu vaccine. By making it a thing youre feeding antivaxers. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. " Yes I will take it But I'd consider not taking it just to annoy the likes of you with your dogmatic attitude. Can you not understand why people are hesitant about taking a vaccine that was developed within the last months. If not then a quick tutorial here isn't going to help here | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family " I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. | |||
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"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received." I would extend this thought. The level of abuse towards people with a different view on this casedemic is unprecedented | |||
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"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received. I would extend this thought. The level of abuse towards people with a different view on this casedemic is unprecedented " Id agree 100% at the end of the day everyone is just doing what they think is right for them and their families, but the level of abuse when you dont just do as your told or you dare to question is unreal Myself and Mr Smyth have different views but we are respectful adults so we just get on with it. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. " I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far." nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. | |||
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"No! Got the flu vaccine few months ago body had a very bad reaction to it! So my time with vaccines are done Here's a good idea. Let's develop a vaccine that we don't know is safe or not. Let's give it to the most vulnerable and elderly people in carehomes first. Then let's give it to all the medical professionals who treat covid patients and are the only people around that can look after us of we become unwell. If there's a problem it'll wipe them all out first and then the rest of us will be safe!!!! Oh wait........ the reason its given to those people first is they're most at risk. the lockdown after lockdown after all is to protect the vulnerable and front line staff. You don't think I get that?? There may have been an element of sarcasm involved in my post. My point being if medics don't have a problem getting it, and these are people who understand vaccines why should lay people??? And if they refuse, they are a danger to others, no bones about it so I hope they have restrictions enforced on them accordingly. people who are vaccinated by my understanding are not immune to covid, they just don't get it badly enough that they need hospital treatment. You're correct you don't understand vaccines and immunity. And a quick tutorial here isn't going to do it. Yes I will take it But I'd consider not taking it just to annoy the likes of you with your dogmatic attitude. Can you not understand why people are hesitant about taking a vaccine that was developed within the last months. If not then a quick tutorial here isn't going to help here " Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer! | |||
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"I think a lot of people who dont want the vaccine would be afraid to say due to the abuse and backlash that would be received." I got death threats on Facebook because I said ( jokingly) that all people in social housing and recipients of welfare payments should be made get the vaccine I never in a million years thought I'd get the reaction I did | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. " Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it " Hahahah my god this is funny an sooo true all them fuck*ng Facebook doctors are a joke | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it Yeah but have you done your own research??? " Yes, thank you for asking. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. " I didn't elect anybody. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. " Did you vote | |||
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" Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer! " Actually virus mutates in an opposite direction. | |||
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" Go ahead, don't take it. You getting covid won't annoy me one bit. If you perpetuate the virus in the community and help develop a more resistant and virulent strain that takes the lives of family and friends at least you can consider yourself an influencer! Actually virus mutates in an opposite direction. " come again.... | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you vote" no. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. " Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even vote | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it Yeah but have you done your own research??? Yes, thank you for asking." Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube. | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it Yeah but have you done your own research??? Yes, thank you for asking. Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube. " Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even vote" read my comment again. | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it Yeah but have you done your own research??? Yes, thank you for asking. Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube. Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not. " problem with this and it's not fb, it's all experts have diff opinions and their all been stated weekly. Also the WHO have continously stated from the start, lockdowns are for when all else fails. Have we tried all else? I don't think so. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. " I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate... So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate... So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done" I'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate... So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well done" plus, even if I did vote and my party got into power, I'd still slate when it's obvious the right things are not been done. | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate... So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well doneI'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem. " No it's ok...I read it alright the first time | |||
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"It’s everyone’s choice whether to get vaccinated or not however if you want to be part of a community that comes with responsibilities. So for example if you want to be treated by a doctor they have a right to say no unless you can prove you took the vaccine when offered. Your choice not to take it, their choice not to treat you. They and their colleagues have been holding the line for the last year. So absolutely don’t take the vaccine if you don’t want but you then need to take responsibility for that decision if it doesn’t work out for you or your family I understand that vaccine does not protect the vaccinated doctor. What is the point of taking it? I would happily accept if only I stop paying taxes for health servi es. They are very little useful anyway. I think the people in the health service have down a heroic job for the last 9 months and they’re not out of the woods yet. I can’t believe anyone would speak badly of the health service after all that’s happened so far.nurses and docs are excellent but the HSE from the top table is a disaster. we have a third world health system and that will continue with our vaccine rollout more then likely. we will be way slower then countries similar in population. Thats generations of your incompetent, crooked, self serving governments fault. You elected them. . Sure its all a big joke til something like this happens. Imagine the state it'd be in of Europe hadn't been propping them up. I didn't elect anybody. Did you voteno. I used to but I learned over time, no matter whose in power here, they're all the same. Hahahaha....and you slating the government....and you didnt even voteread my comment again. I don't need to....you constantly slate a government you didnt vote for or should I say you didnt even vote,but will still slate... So you complain and complain...get a chance to have a voice and vote...and you go no...well doneI'll tell you once more. I have voted in the past and learned a while ago it doesn't matter whose in power, they're all the same. Say one thing, do the other when in power. Our health system is in a state with years and years. Its not an overnight problem. No it's ok...I read it alright the first time " good man. | |||
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"Why you surprised about your colleagues? It's their choice..." My guess, if her workplace has already gotten it the jab, it's because they are working closely with covid, so probably in a hospital or a nursing home where the horrors of Covid are seen on a daily basis and has made their work life exponentially more difficult the last year. I'd be super surprised if anyone in that position wouldnt feel the pros far outweigh the cons. The stigma alone from your colleagues and patients would be enough for me. | |||
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"Good news mortality is not an issue. This is something I know since April maybe, but am very curious what is a new issue we have now in 2021?" If you know so much then you don't need me to tell you what the other issues are Or perhaps you're being deliberately obtuse again | |||
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"OK so you are not going to say. " What's the point? Incidentally, I said mortality is not the ONLY issue. I didn't say it's not an issue. It's very much an issue for those who have lost their lives | |||
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"Yes, 100% will be taking it. We believe in expert scientific advice over the guy on Facebook who says my dog will develop autism if I take it Yeah but have you done your own research??? Yes, thank you for asking. Sorry, I was being VERY tongue-in-cheek. Didn’t make that clear. I hate people asking me if I’ve done my own research, especially when theirs was done on YouTube. Apologies, I just quickly scanned over the reply and didn't think to read into the tone But yes, my own dad is a nightmare for believing what he sees on FB and tiktok believe it or not. " Oh for a vaccine against stupidity... | |||
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" The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly" It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria. | |||
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"As usually when we loose relatives, but we don't ruin everybody else's lives, particularly if average mortality below 70 is.0.05% based on the official research by WHO made across 51 countries" Do those lives not have value? And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment | |||
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" The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria. " We would agree with you. Most people who spout that crap believe whatever they are told. | |||
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" The aborted fetus thing was put around by hardcore anti vaxxers like Gemma ó Doherty during the summer if I remember correctly It’s utter bullshit, its feeding into anti-vaxer, pro-lifer, window licking hysteria. We would agree with you. Most people who spout that crap believe whatever they are told. " Once it gives them someone to judge that is.... | |||
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" Do those lives not have value? And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment" Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April. How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you? | |||
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" Do those lives not have value? And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April. How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you? " Of course they do. Which is why I advocate following the guidelines to reduce the strain on the health service rather than disregarding all of that, decrying it as nonsense and thus perpetuating the problem | |||
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" Do those lives not have value? And I'm sure someone as knowledgeable as yourself understands that even those severely affected who survive require medical treatment Look at the scale of official reports, nothing has changed. Probably the most deadly strain of the virus has ended end of April. How about lives of other patients, lost because of the health systems orientated only on one single virus and sacrificing everybody else. Does their lives do not value for you? " Anyway let's not derail the thread for the OP who asked who would be having the vaccine. If my memory serves me correctly you're dead against that | |||
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"Will the vaccine work against the new varient of covid The new covid started around the same time as the vaccine roll out " Good question. Time will tell i suppose. Take lots of vitamins to help our immune system cope with the virus | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" As I said previously, correlation does not equal causation | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" The supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been thoroughly debunked many times over by actual science rather than anecdotal evidence. Fuck me sideways | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof The supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been thoroughly debunked many times over by actual science rather than anecdotal evidence. Fuck me sideways " Just saying the rise in autism coincided with the mmr introduction | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital " | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof Oh ffs. This shite again. 30yrs ago, a lot of families had children that couldn’t communicate or were labelled stupid or clumsy or nervy. Now they have diagnoses. Autism, aspergers, dyslexia, dyspraxia. Let me know where your sister works and I’ll avoid that hospital " She works with the poor souls that suffered brain damage in the days and weeks after receiving their mmr shot. Doubt you will be attending that hospital | |||
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"Gimme! Like many, am way down on the list but for sure....gimme! " Horse it into me | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" 18 months ago I was playing football and broke my hand. That morning I had cornflakes for breakfast I've not eaten cornflakes since and I've also not broke my hand since therefore cornflakes caused me to break my hands | |||
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"Gimme! Like many, am way down on the list but for sure....gimme! " gimme gimme gimme a woman after midnight. | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" Christ. Rule #1 of Data Science: Correlation does not imply causation! Let's say your anecdotal second hand information is true. Ever stop to think it's because in the decades since the MMR was introduced, we have also had decades of research into early detecting and diagnosing Autism? In the 80s a kid on the spectrum was just though to be the class idiot, and would never be diagnosed properly. | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man. | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man. " Let's hear him out! Please, can you share a link to the peer reviewed Journal where your sister published her double blind trial research? I'd actually love to read it. | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof" So what you’re saying is that there are some free rooms at the MMR Hotel? lol | |||
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"My sister is a nurse. She has seen measles Almost eradicated in young children with MMR VACANCIES but strangely autism cases have gone through the roof Ffs not this shit again. Do your research man. " . . Get your sleeve rolled up for your jab and wait and see if it works.. I ain't taking untested drugs | |||
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"Already had it. Anyone who refuses the vaccine and can later be linked to transmission of it should be open to litigation and charges. Hopefully such people are also banned from foreign travel. There comes a time when such absolute idiots and their self proclaimed "but it's my right" views should face the consequences. Ie when there is a global pandemic costing the global economy billions and taking millions of lives world wide. This is about more than them. If these people cant see that they don't deserve to share our planet. ??" So if that’s the case, I’m sure you’ll agree that those who smoke shouldn’t get cancer treatment for their choice, alcoholics shouldn’t get liver replacements for their choice, drug abusers shouldn’t get any help for their choice, obese people shouldn’t get any help in regards to their eating choices? Just keeping things on a level playing field. There’s 4 massive contributors to problems the NHS faces. But sure, a vaccine for a virus with a seriously high survival rate should be treated as something necessary. attack those 4 things and 1. The nhs isn’t getting hammered 2. People are healthier with stronger immune systems. | |||
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