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"I think retail can actually stay open this time." is it the hospitality sector hit again then..... its the house parties that get virus numbers up. | |||
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"I think retail can actually stay open this time.is it the hospitality sector hit again then..... its the house parties that get virus numbers up. " Totally agree,house parties need to stop end of. | |||
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"Look on the bright side, at least we get to have Xmas unlike a lot of European countries that are now in lockdown throughout the festive season " That's a good point | |||
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"I think retail can actually stay open this time.is it the hospitality sector hit again then..... its the house parties that get virus numbers up. Totally agree,house parties need to stop end of." in this case being a grass is an honourable thing to do...... | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? " Hopefully more Return of the King than Godfather 3 | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? " Dude, this could just be the prequel trilogy, George Lucas directing and all | |||
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"We will be locked down till march I'd say or till at least 80% vaccine up take. This isn't a debate on vaccinations etc I'm just saying that lockdowns every few months or vaccine unfortunately they are our options" or the Sweden mentality and just protect the care homes. problem there is hospitals cannot cope. the whole idea of lockdowns is the protect the hospitals. | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? " Let's bloody hope so | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? Let's bloody hope so " Somehow me thinks this could go on for a while yet | |||
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"were going into a 3 plus next week but do u think we will enter a level 5 again?" Yes we will | |||
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"were going into a 3 plus next week but do u think we will enter a level 5 again?" Absolutely, does anyone really think that people who have ignored restrictions all along are going to change now? This time of year puts the health services under serious pressure at the best of times. | |||
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"What's causing it is selfish pricks and here's an example that actually happened A family funeral that over 200 turned up for A greedy pub manger who served them with no social distance in place A gobshite of a priest who allowed them into the church. And now look a small village riddled with it in Wexford and all it took was one fuckin person and that said person was awaiting results that person shouldn't have bin there at all in the first place let alone the other 180. That sound harsh no it doesn't when you wipe out an entire area! I had a family funeral last week an I come from an extremely large family.we where only allowed our 25 people and it was hard to pick out who actually got too go into the church. We had no afters,no pub,no food no noting. So here's too the selfish pricks of Ireland have a great poxy Christmas and ruin it for the rest of us!! " yes it's devastating as wexford was doing so well the area is small with near enough no cases the local doctor surgery has been hit with it..... | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. " A lot of people are not nephet or the government | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. A lot of people are not nephet or the government " I hate the thoughts of another full lockdown but if you're going to level 5, you might aswell do it properly. | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. A lot of people are not nephet or the government I hate the thoughts of another full lockdown but if you're going to level 5, you might aswell do it properly. " Exactely.... | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. A lot of people are not nephet or the government I hate the thoughts of another full lockdown but if you're going to level 5, you might aswell do it properly. Exactely...." the level 5 we came out of in December and the level 5 back in March are completely different. | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. " I think this is a big part of the mentality. Through the spring, we got a very clear, united message from government and the medical world. We got a plan and we stuck to it. We've lost that unity and message clarity from the decision makers. We're being told about levels 3+, 5-, a meaniful Christmas and much more besides. It's bringing a haziness into the conversation and allowing people to bend rules to suit themselves. The upshot is a reduced 'community enforcement' which was so effective in the spring. Yes, there are other items to consider but the country needs to decide what's important. A pint, a party or a life. | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. I think this is a big part of the mentality. Through the spring, we got a very clear, united message from government and the medical world. We got a plan and we stuck to it. We've lost that unity and message clarity from the decision makers. We're being told about levels 3+, 5-, a meaniful Christmas and much more besides. It's bringing a haziness into the conversation and allowing people to bend rules to suit themselves. The upshot is a reduced 'community enforcement' which was so effective in the spring. Yes, there are other items to consider but the country needs to decide what's important. A pint, a party or a life. " what is a large part of it, people are sick to death of not been able to live life, enjoy themselves. were continously been told what to do but it's going to continue for another few months anyway. | |||
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"I know a pub owner. hes open as has a kitchen. opens at 5 closes at 11.30. 5-7 7-9 9-11 are the 3 slots but he said most people want to book at 7 and ask will they get until closing. he allows them along as nobody has the seat booked. I know another pub doing first come first serve. when maximum number is up, door is closed. " going out is absolutely shite though when u have 2 go home after 2 hours. | |||
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"I've kind of lost the energy to argue about what other people should be doing..... I think at this stage most people know what is high and low risk behaviour without needing it to be outlined but the government. Those that will limit contacts will do so those that won't just won't regardless. Numbers are going to get worse for the next few weeks as I think we all will probably relax a little from what ever level of precautions we have been taking individually. I do feel shit for people working in the health service they are about to be run off their feet" if you're doing it to a tee, you're basically been asked to live your life worrying about others all the time. thats it in a nutshell. problem for some people is it was grand for 3 months but its now going on indefinitely and people are saying "fuck it, I'm getting on with my life". in a way I dont fully blame them. you could go out in the morning and be killed by a truck crossing the road or in a car crash. | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. " imagine the house parties you're going to have new years eve .. | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. " Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go " I had hoped to get out for dinner and few drinks on the 29th or 30th not looking likely now. Fed up of the whole thing at this stage | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go " and do u no what? they're dead right. they're enjoying themselves and its christmas. | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go I had hoped to get out for dinner and few drinks on the 29th or 30th not looking likely now. Fed up of the whole thing at this stage" pubs closing from the 30th. u will get out the 29th | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go I had hoped to get out for dinner and few drinks on the 29th or 30th not looking likely now. Fed up of the whole thing at this stagepubs closing from the 30th. u will get out the 29th" Not bothered about the pub just be nice to get out for a meal | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go I had hoped to get out for dinner and few drinks on the 29th or 30th not looking likely now. Fed up of the whole thing at this stagepubs closing from the 30th. u will get out the 29th Not bothered about the pub just be nice to get out for a meal " ye that's what I mean. you'll get into a pub/hotel/restaurant. | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go " What our suggestion would be 1 - open the bars and restaurants and let them govern themselves 2- spot checks by garda or another governing body 3 - bars that not keeping to rules shut on the spot/weekend 4 - bars caught 2nd time closed til after lockdown finishes and when license is ready for renewal this goes against them 5 - what bar you off too bog m and is there room for 2 more | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go What our suggestion would be 1 - open the bars and restaurants and let them govern themselves 2- spot checks by garda or another governing body 3 - bars that not keeping to rules shut on the spot/weekend 4 - bars caught 2nd time closed til after lockdown finishes and when license is ready for renewal this goes against them 5 - what bar you off too bog m and is there room for 2 more " exactly. open with guidlines. ones purposely breaking them, shut it. | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go What our suggestion would be 1 - open the bars and restaurants and let them govern themselves 2- spot checks by garda or another governing body 3 - bars that not keeping to rules shut on the spot/weekend 4 - bars caught 2nd time closed til after lockdown finishes and when license is ready for renewal this goes against them 5 - what bar you off too bog m and is there room for 2 more " Spot checks are already happening...if the guards call to a bar...a member of the hse is with them.... | |||
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"Let the pubs and restaurants stay open as they will be more regulated than the house parties that will happen. Agree mostly with this I'm going out for Dinner on Monday for the first time since March I definitely think there's a problem with some pubs Some of my brothers have been in 3 different pubs since monday night They've stayed in all 3 pubs as long as they want every night and as much beer as possible Its actually caused a rift because I wont go What our suggestion would be 1 - open the bars and restaurants and let them govern themselves 2- spot checks by garda or another governing body 3 - bars that not keeping to rules shut on the spot/weekend 4 - bars caught 2nd time closed til after lockdown finishes and when license is ready for renewal this goes against them 5 - what bar you off too bog m and is there room for 2 more " I'd much rather go on one of your walks | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality " Exactly. This lockdown is designed to get us through the initial vaccine phase. | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality " You always speak a lot of sense | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality You always speak a lot of sense " That's as long as they start the vaccinations soon, latest talk is march before main vaccinations happening, hope we are wrong | |||
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"how long will they put us in level 5 for though?" It won't be level 5, level 3+ (whatever that is) but I'd say this one will run continuously until after Easter. They won't tell is that initially but just keep extending. It will take this country at least that long to get vaccine to the vulnerable L | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality You always speak a lot of sense That's as long as they start the vaccinations soon, latest talk is march before main vaccinations happening, hope we are wrong " Which is nuts when the rest of Europe are starting them the 27th of this month apparently | |||
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"how long will they put us in level 5 for though? It won't be level 5, level 3+ (whatever that is) but I'd say this one will run continuously until after Easter. They won't tell is that initially but just keep extending. It will take this country at least that long to get vaccine to the vulnerable L " I think easter is first Sunday in April. wuhan where the virus originated are back to normal after a year. hopefully come March, were near similar | |||
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"how long will they put us in level 5 for though? It won't be level 5, level 3+ (whatever that is) but I'd say this one will run continuously until after Easter. They won't tell is that initially but just keep extending. It will take this country at least that long to get vaccine to the vulnerable L I think easter is first Sunday in April. wuhan where the virus originated are back to normal after a year. hopefully come March, were near similar " wuhan have not had any covid cases in 6 months.... and have stated the virus didn't start with them apparently the top scientist in China will not talk to any media from anywhere.... | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? " Could be more of a long saga | |||
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"how long will they put us in level 5 for though? It won't be level 5, level 3+ (whatever that is) but I'd say this one will run continuously until after Easter. They won't tell is that initially but just keep extending. It will take this country at least that long to get vaccine to the vulnerable L I think easter is first Sunday in April. wuhan where the virus originated are back to normal after a year. hopefully come March, were near similar wuhan have not had any covid cases in 6 months.... and have stated the virus didn't start with them apparently the top scientist in China will not talk to any media from anywhere.... " ye they're saying it was brought in from elsewhere. | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality You always speak a lot of sense That's as long as they start the vaccinations soon, latest talk is march before main vaccinations happening, hope we are wrong Which is nuts when the rest of Europe are starting them the 27th of this month apparently " the longer we take to get the vaccine rolled out, the longer we will be in lockdowns. | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality You always speak a lot of sense That's as long as they start the vaccinations soon, latest talk is march before main vaccinations happening, hope we are wrong Which is nuts when the rest of Europe are starting them the 27th of this month apparently the longer we take to get the vaccine rolled out, the longer we will be in lockdowns. " Where was it said march for them to start? Sorry not being argumentative but all the reports I have seen including quotes from Varadkar are saying before the end of the year | |||
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"Taking the long view.. It seems the plan is one last major lockdown until vaccine uptake is at a good level, most of the vulnerable should be vaccinated in the next 2-3 months, then fingers crossed back to semi normality You always speak a lot of sense That's as long as they start the vaccinations soon, latest talk is march before main vaccinations happening, hope we are wrong Which is nuts when the rest of Europe are starting them the 27th of this month apparently the longer we take to get the vaccine rolled out, the longer we will be in lockdowns. Where was it said march for them to start? Sorry not being argumentative but all the reports I have seen including quotes from Varadkar are saying before the end of the year" He didn't say what year tho. | |||
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"What's causing it is selfish pricks and here's an example that actually happened A family funeral that over 200 turned up for A greedy pub manger who served them with no social distance in place A gobshite of a priest who allowed them into the church. And now look a small village riddled with it in Wexford and all it took was one fuckin person and that said person was awaiting results that person shouldn't have bin there at all in the first place let alone the other 180. That sound harsh no it doesn't when you wipe out an entire area! I had a family funeral last week an I come from an extremely large family.we where only allowed our 25 people and it was hard to pick out who actually got too go into the church. We had no afters,no pub,no food no noting. So here's too the selfish pricks of Ireland have a great poxy Christmas and ruin it for the rest of us!! yes it's devastating as wexford was doing so well the area is small with near enough no cases the local doctor surgery has been hit with it..... " and it's about too get worse I'd say.. they had absolutely no regard for anyone else in their village an surrounding areas | |||
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"a professor on there now saying clothes schools next month. you'll be back to normal by paddys day " if only it was that simple | |||
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"a professor on there now saying clothes schools next month. you'll be back to normal by paddys day if only it was that simple " I think hes highlightening the point that schools are a big issue. | |||
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"What's causing it is selfish pricks and here's an example that actually happened A family funeral that over 200 turned up for A greedy pub manger who served them with no social distance in place A gobshite of a priest who allowed them into the church. And now look a small village riddled with it in Wexford and all it took was one fuckin person and that said person was awaiting results that person shouldn't have bin there at all in the first place let alone the other 180. That sound harsh no it doesn't when you wipe out an entire area! I had a family funeral last week an I come from an extremely large family.we where only allowed our 25 people and it was hard to pick out who actually got too go into the church. We had no afters,no pub,no food no noting. So here's too the selfish pricks of Ireland have a great poxy Christmas and ruin it for the rest of us!! yes it's devastating as wexford was doing so well the area is small with near enough no cases the local doctor surgery has been hit with it..... and it's about too get worse I'd say.. they had absolutely no regard for anyone else in their village an surrounding areas " Sounds like a ethnic minority group? | |||
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"What's causing it is selfish pricks and here's an example that actually happened A family funeral that over 200 turned up for A greedy pub manger who served them with no social distance in place A gobshite of a priest who allowed them into the church. And now look a small village riddled with it in Wexford and all it took was one fuckin person and that said person was awaiting results that person shouldn't have bin there at all in the first place let alone the other 180. That sound harsh no it doesn't when you wipe out an entire area! I had a family funeral last week an I come from an extremely large family.we where only allowed our 25 people and it was hard to pick out who actually got too go into the church. We had no afters,no pub,no food no noting. So here's too the selfish pricks of Ireland have a great poxy Christmas and ruin it for the rest of us!! yes it's devastating as wexford was doing so well the area is small with near enough no cases the local doctor surgery has been hit with it..... and it's about too get worse I'd say.. they had absolutely no regard for anyone else in their village an surrounding areas Sounds like a ethnic minority group?" Ah people from Wexford are a bit different but their own ethnic group is a bit far | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. " let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread?" So dya want schools closed and leave the pubs open?? | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? So dya want schools closed and leave the pubs open??" I put up what the professor said. if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains " Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to close | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? So dya want schools closed and leave the pubs open?? I put up what the professor said. if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains " So lockdown then....until it passes | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? So dya want schools closed and leave the pubs open?? I put up what the professor said. if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains " Thank fuck you don't have a say, the place would be totally fucked up. Who cares what the professor said, it's just his opinion. And just because you agree with him doesn't make him right | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to close" where? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. " that's exactly the problem. It's easy blame schools and pubs etc, it's people that are spreading the virus with their careless attitude and not caring about others | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? So dya want schools closed and leave the pubs open?? I put up what the professor said. if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Thank fuck you don't have a say, the place would be totally fucked up. Who cares what the professor said, it's just his opinion. And just because you agree with him doesn't make him right " that's what it is. all opinions. even the experts dont agree | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. " When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why " people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. " Yip....because as long as they stay doing what they are doing...the longer the lockdown lasts....its fairly easy understand... | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. Yip....because as long as they stay doing what they are doing...the longer the lockdown lasts....its fairly easy understand..." you will be I'm lockdown until the vaccine is rolled to so many people. it's as simple as that. | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. " You asked for examples of people not following the control measures and then call it finger pointing when its given. | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. You asked for examples of people not following the control measures and then call it finger pointing when its given." Hahahaha | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. You asked for examples of people not following the control measures and then call it finger pointing when its given." I called it finger pointing the amount of whining and moaning in society about what some others are doing. | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. Yip....because as long as they stay doing what they are doing...the longer the lockdown lasts....its fairly easy understand...you will be I'm lockdown until the vaccine is rolled to so many people. it's as simple as that." And I've no problem with a lockdown until then | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. You asked for examples of people not following the control measures and then call it finger pointing when its given.I called it finger pointing the amount of whining and moaning in society about what some others are doing. " Right up there with the look at all the things I can't do group | |||
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" if I had my way everything would be open with controlled measures but even with controlled measures, the virus remains Because people have clearly shown that they cannot follow control measures in place. Hence things having to closewhere? I have seen pubs, masks going in, 6 at a table, all having food, masks on in and around shops. u cant tar every sector with the one brush. When tipp won the munster final.... At the limerick hurling county final... Last week in a pub 8 miles from me... In work most days.... In tescos last sat 2 people came in no masks...walked straight past the hand sanitizer My buddy who's been at a house party every weekend. People wanted responsibility...and bleugh....that's why people want a bit of normality, that's all. as I said earlier today, we have turned into a finger pointing whinging society, this fella is doing this or this fella is doing that. moaning about what everybody else is doing. You asked for examples of people not following the control measures and then call it finger pointing when its given.I called it finger pointing the amount of whining and moaning in society about what some others are doing. Right up there with the look at all the things I can't do group " absolutely. you live life to enjoy. its part and parcel of it. | |||
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"What's causing it is selfish pricks and here's an example that actually happened A family funeral that over 200 turned up for A greedy pub manger who served them with no social distance in place A gobshite of a priest who allowed them into the church. And now look a small village riddled with it in Wexford and all it took was one fuckin person and that said person was awaiting results that person shouldn't have bin there at all in the first place let alone the other 180. That sound harsh no it doesn't when you wipe out an entire area! I had a family funeral last week an I come from an extremely large family.we where only allowed our 25 people and it was hard to pick out who actually got too go into the church. We had no afters,no pub,no food no noting. So here's too the selfish pricks of Ireland have a great poxy Christmas and ruin it for the rest of us!! yes it's devastating as wexford was doing so well the area is small with near enough no cases the local doctor surgery has been hit with it..... and it's about too get worse I'd say.. they had absolutely no regard for anyone else in their village an surrounding areas Sounds like a ethnic minority group?" oddly enough it wasn't | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread?" I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t. | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. that's exactly the problem. It's easy blame schools and pubs etc, it's people that are spreading the virus with their careless attitude and not caring about others " Do I smell a ban coming?? There will never be a cure for utterly fucking stupid because they're too utterly stupid to realise that they're utterly stupid and too utterly stupid to know where to get the cure... we're all living through these times, sitting through lock downs, while watching the same old eejits going against all the warnings and restrictions...why??... Cos they're too utterly stupid... inconsiderate.... Selfish.... Ignorant... Arrogant... They are the very people who will refuse to not celebrate christmas and new year with all their family and friends in the usual way...the very people who will refuse to get the vaccine...the very people who will give out about being on a hospital trolley waiting on a hospital bed.... If we don't owe it to those closest to us, we owe it to the people who work in hospitals | |||
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"Two points Firstly, we have lockdown so the kids CAN go to school. The mental health fallout of closing the schools is absolutely monumental. I’m happy to stick to any rules once the kids get to go to school as not having a social routine is phenomenally dangerous for the younger generation. Schools are struggling to keep up with the developmental catastrophe of kids missing school this year. I’m experiencing it first hand and it’s horrendous. Secondly, I’ve had two friends test positive the last two days. Both these friends have been inordinately careful. And both can trace their infection directly to people in their work who ignored safety guidelines by turning up to work sick, whinged about mask wearing and still refuse to get tested. Unfortunately, until they find a cure for “utterly fucking stupid”, these idiots will keep spreading the virus. Interestingly they are also the idiots who will refuse the C-19 vaccine. that's exactly the problem. It's easy blame schools and pubs etc, it's people that are spreading the virus with their careless attitude and not caring about others Do I smell a ban coming?? There will never be a cure for utterly fucking stupid because they're too utterly stupid to realise that they're utterly stupid and too utterly stupid to know where to get the cure... we're all living through these times, sitting through lock downs, while watching the same old eejits going against all the warnings and restrictions...why??... Cos they're too utterly stupid... inconsiderate.... Selfish.... Ignorant... Arrogant... They are the very people who will refuse to not celebrate christmas and new year with all their family and friends in the usual way...the very people who will refuse to get the vaccine...the very people who will give out about being on a hospital trolley waiting on a hospital bed.... If we don't owe it to those closest to us, we owe it to the people who work in hospitals" Amen. You’re so clever. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t." I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. " But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the government | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the government" schools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan." A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... " as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. " I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. " Like I said I'll leave you to it | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. Like I said I'll leave you to it " that's the answer in itself. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. Like I said I'll leave you to it that's the answer in itself. " | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. Like I said I'll leave you to it that's the answer in itself. " lol thank god you're not running the country. | |||
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". let me ask, if you woke in the morning and had a sniffle, would you go to work? secondaly, would you be happy with schools open if they were a big cause of spread? I wouldn’t if I had a sniffle no, because a sniffle isn’t a symptom. Any of the other symptoms? No I wouldn’t. Either way, I quit my job back in March because I’m high risk. And no, my OH didn’t leave the house and we all quarantined for 14 days when he had a cough. As it then took 3 wks for his test results to come back positive, we were glad we did. It’s actually not difficult to not be an asshole. If the schools were shown to be super spreaders, I’d take my kids out myself. But they aren’t. So I won’t.I dont think there is a way of known. if kids are asymptomatic and spread it in school. its then brought out and about and into the household and classed as a private setting or community transmission. But what you think doesent affect the decision of nephet or the governmentschools are open because they're deemed essential so it doesnt matter if its been spread or not in schools. my point is you dont know fully If it is been spread in schools. pity luke o Neill is not in charge and not Tony holohan. A month ago you were on about having things open and back to normal.... So do you want schools closed and pubs open?? Retail and shops....but not education... Construction and food...but not teachers.... Make up your mind... You wanted crowds at gaa matches... I'll leave you to it.... as I said in a few posts, everything open, measures in place. close the places not following guidlines. your whinging about case numbers going up. what did you think was going to happen when you come out of a level 5? you have more open, more out and about which =... I don't have to tell u. I'd say if u had your way everything would be locked down until so many get vaccinated. Like I said I'll leave you to it that's the answer in itself. lol thank god you're not running the country. " | |||
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"And now our beloved gaa are running off underage championships. School and college students training, playing and mixing with dozens of others then going back home to their families and then mixing with their school and college friends. Is it any wonder the virus is still spreading " of course john. every ounce of ones enjoyments should be stopped. all of them. | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the start" its an issue they're ignoring continuously | |||
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"And now our beloved gaa are running off underage championships. School and college students training, playing and mixing with dozens of others then going back home to their families and then mixing with their school and college friends. Is it any wonder the virus is still spreading of course john. every ounce of ones enjoyments should be stopped. all of them." I think you need to educate yourself on the virus. These gaa games are totally unnecessary for most people's enjoyment. These are part of the reason were going into tighter lockdown next week not just the house parties or whatever else you blame | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously " I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something | |||
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"And now our beloved gaa are running off underage championships. School and college students training, playing and mixing with dozens of others then going back home to their families and then mixing with their school and college friends. Is it any wonder the virus is still spreading of course john. every ounce of ones enjoyments should be stopped. all of them. I think you need to educate yourself on the virus. These gaa games are totally unnecessary for most people's enjoyment. These are part of the reason were going into tighter lockdown next week not just the house parties or whatever else you blame " tell they to NPHET and the governent. they're the ones allowing them but guess what john. since IC began there is no cluster of cases to them but keep banging that drum of yours. | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something " alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. | |||
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"I give up, there's no talking to stupid " no stupid. u dont like facts. u just have a problem with sports running. | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. " I have no idea what side of the argument your coming from... you think people should be allowed some degree or normality but you want to ban alcohol in the country for months? | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. I have no idea what side of the argument your coming from... you think people should be allowed some degree or normality but you want to ban alcohol in the country for months?" Alcohol is essential, let's not forget | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. I have no idea what side of the argument your coming from... you think people should be allowed some degree or normality but you want to ban alcohol in the country for months?" he said house parties will kick off new years eve which they will. I'm saying with a long time. ban alcohol in off licences and supermarkets and the house party numbers will come down dramatically. instead they close pubs restaurants and leave house parties run amuck | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. I have no idea what side of the argument your coming from... you think people should be allowed some degree or normality but you want to ban alcohol in the country for months?he said house parties will kick off new years eve which they will. I'm saying with a long time. ban alcohol in off licences and supermarkets and the house party numbers will come down dramatically. instead they close pubs restaurants and leave house parties run amuck" What about those people who don't want to go to bars who have vulnerable people at home, are high risk themselves or just dont like the local...they should be deprived having a bottle of wine at home? Personally I dont see the pubs and restaurants being the main issue either but it doesn't matter what restrictions you have or don't have, when people will just ignore them anyway | |||
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"but do they have any figures to show gastro pubs and res are the real problem if they have not showing them . this will lead to more house on year eve has no one in nepth through about this house partys been the since the startits an issue they're ignoring continuously I know right.... They should really ask people not to visit other households or like limit the amount of different households that can be in one home at a time or something alcohol buddy alcohol. stop the sale of alcohol full stop and see what happens. I have no idea what side of the argument your coming from... you think people should be allowed some degree or normality but you want to ban alcohol in the country for months?he said house parties will kick off new years eve which they will. I'm saying with a long time. ban alcohol in off licences and supermarkets and the house party numbers will come down dramatically. instead they close pubs restaurants and leave house parties run amuck What about those people who don't want to go to bars who have vulnerable people at home, are high risk themselves or just dont like the local...they should be deprived having a bottle of wine at home? Personally I dont see the pubs and restaurants being the main issue either but it doesn't matter what restrictions you have or don't have, when people will just ignore them anyway" point I'm making Is in a controlled bar or restaurant people are alot more spaced then at home. I understand people like a bottle of wine at home but u cant have it every way. house parties are s huge issue and will take off like a bomb new years eve. | |||
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"Alcohol prohibition never works, there would just be a massive black market trade with a resulting huge revenue loss to the exchequer." its worth a try for a month and see what happens. | |||
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" it doesn't matter what restrictions you have or don't have, when people will just ignore them anyway" In a nutshell | |||
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"Michelle needs her pussy shaved " What a creep you are | |||
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"Michelle needs her pussy shaved What a creep you are " | |||
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"Michelle needs her pussy shaved " Arelene needs one.. | |||
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"Michelle needs her pussy shaved Arelene needs one.." she needs to grow a set of balz bud | |||
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"Latest figures in tonight, no further deaths and 3m cases of sick culchies as Dublin win 6 in a row... " they'll celebrate tonight. | |||
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"The final part of the trilogy? Dude, this could just be the prequel trilogy, George Lucas directing and all " Shit!!! | |||
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"According to a UK government study, for every 3 covid related deaths, a further 2 deaths were caused by lockdown (not seeking medical help, missed appointments, cancelled tests etc). When you set that beside the financial devastation that lock downs have caused and the health implications that go along with that, it's not quite so simple, now is it. One of our businesses is in the hospitality sector, and it's been brutal" absolutely. its terrible. | |||
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"So apparently lockdown number 3 is coming December 28. Very nice of the government." ..what's the government supposed to do they try to open up everything but silly people that cant stay within the guidelines ruin it for the majority..not the government | |||
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"So apparently lockdown number 3 is coming December 28. Very nice of the government...what's the government supposed to do they try to open up everything but silly people that cant stay within the guidelines ruin it for the majority..not the government " bend over while the government does you up the arse | |||
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"So apparently lockdown number 3 is coming December 28. Very nice of the government...what's the government supposed to do they try to open up everything but silly people that cant stay within the guidelines ruin it for the majority..not the government bend over while the government does you up the arse " ahh sure the Government will be on Holidays till when?? vast swades of the country being shut down for no reason,so much for our elected td's,all about the masses | |||
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"Fair play to all the retailers making supermarket alcohol so cheap at the moment, it's easy to stay at home 2 cases of Guinness for €32!!!! FFS they can't make it for that price! Why would anyone go to a pub/restaurant?? " Working 6 days a week,back to an empty house,only drink on a Sat night,glad to pay the extra to get out to the pub for a drink | |||
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"alot of people think if we go too level 5 it has to be alot stricter level 5 this time. I think this is a big part of the mentality. Through the spring, we got a very clear, united message from government and the medical world. We got a plan and we stuck to it. We've lost that unity and message clarity from the decision makers. We're being told about levels 3+, 5-, a meaniful Christmas and much more besides. It's bringing a haziness into the conversation and allowing people to bend rules to suit themselves. The upshot is a reduced 'community enforcement' which was so effective in the spring. Yes, there are other items to consider but the country needs to decide what's important. A pint, a party or a life. " Definitely agree with this, the change of leadership absolutely changed the message and tone that had been working so well since March and fractured the sense of unity | |||
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"According to a UK government study, for every 3 covid related deaths, a further 2 deaths were caused by lockdown (not seeking medical help, missed appointments, cancelled tests etc). When you set that beside the financial devastation that lock downs have caused and the health implications that go along with that, it's not quite so simple, now is it. One of our businesses is in the hospitality sector, and it's been brutal" That's a play on figures. You quote 2 deaths for other causes during lockdown. But if not for lockdown the R number would have soared and the 3 covid related deaths risen significantly and hopsitals would have been completely overwhelmed so not only would the figure 3 you quoted have soared but the figure 2 would have risen as well. Its about understanding the virus and virus transmission rates. And there are way way too many people who don't get that and don't knkw how to interpret the statistics. | |||
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"So apparently lockdown number 3 is coming December 28. Very nice of the government...what's the government supposed to do they try to open up everything but silly people that cant stay within the guidelines ruin it for the majority..not the government " "people cant stay within the guidlines". I'd say the vast majority follow the guidlines but as I have stated, the issue is more premises are open, more people are out and about so naturally cases will go up. that's what happens when you move out of level 5. I think we're all well aware the country, economy etc cannot stay in a level 5 permanantly until there is so much uptake on a vaccine. it's just a pity our hospitals are in such dire straits because this opening closing opening closing of businesses is all about hospitals and ICUs coping. Let's hope come March we have an improvement. | |||
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"Don't blame the Government, blame those who won't follow the guidelines. You can blame the Government next year, though, for allowing people come home for Christmas from countries where covid is rampant and bringing yet another spike of the virus with them !! " lol so come next Christmas you still want restrictive measures in place even if a successful vaccine is rolled out? | |||
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"Don't blame the Government, blame those who won't follow the guidelines. You can blame the Government next year, though, for allowing people come home for Christmas from countries where covid is rampant and bringing yet another spike of the virus with them !! lol so come next Christmas you still want restrictive measures in place even if a successful vaccine is rolled out?" I think he meant in the soon starting new year/January 2021, not Christmas 2021. | |||
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"Don't blame the Government, blame those who won't follow the guidelines. You can blame the Government next year, though, for allowing people come home for Christmas from countries where covid is rampant and bringing yet another spike of the virus with them !! lol so come next Christmas you still want restrictive measures in place even if a successful vaccine is rolled out? I think he meant in the soon starting new year/January 2021, not Christmas 2021. " ye I see it now. holohan on this morning, stay out of pubs cafes restaurants but u look online at arrivals into Dublin airport and u see a load of flights from covid hotspots and then he expects people to listen to what hes saying. you couldnt make it up. I do agree we came out of the L5 too quickly. should of waited a further 2 weeks. | |||
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"According to a UK government study, for every 3 covid related deaths, a further 2 deaths were caused by lockdown (not seeking medical help, missed appointments, cancelled tests etc). When you set that beside the financial devastation that lock downs have caused and the health implications that go along with that, it's not quite so simple, now is it. One of our businesses is in the hospitality sector, and it's been brutal That's a play on figures. You quote 2 deaths for other causes during lockdown. But if not for lockdown the R number would have soared and the 3 covid related deaths risen significantly and hopsitals would have been completely overwhelmed so not only would the figure 3 you quoted have soared but the figure 2 would have risen as well. Its about understanding the virus and virus transmission rates. And there are way way too many people who don't get that and don't knkw how to interpret the statistics. " One also has to look into the statistics and realise that "covid related death" does not mean that covid killed that person, it means that they had covid. I'm not saying that covid hasn't killed anyone, simply that the number of people actually killed by covid is a fair bit lower than the headline figure. And I take your point about the strain on the health service, however if you look at the admissions to the so called Nightingale Hospitals, none of them were ever much more than half full. Might it not have been a little more prudent to spend the billions used on half assed furlough schemes etc and throw it at the health service and care homes? Lives were always going to be lost, but which way costs the fewest? | |||
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"I hope Ireland will follow other European countries and ban flights and ferries asap. " should of been done day 1 but they're not going to do it now. | |||
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"I hope Ireland will follow other European countries and ban flights and ferries asap. should of been done day 1 but they're not going to do it now. " They do seriously consider it as there's a new strain in the Uk that is more contagious. | |||
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"I hope Ireland will follow other European countries and ban flights and ferries asap. should of been done day 1 but they're not going to do it now. They do seriously consider it as there's a new strain in the Uk that is more contagious. " airlines came out here this morning and said they have no plans to stop flights from the UK. | |||
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"I hope Ireland will follow other European countries and ban flights and ferries asap. should of been done day 1 but they're not going to do it now. They do seriously consider it as there's a new strain in the Uk that is more contagious. airlines came out here this morning and said they have no plans to stop flights from the UK. " It's done, young man. | |||
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"Done, 48 hour ban. Was the ban for those socks Doghunter " Not a fab ban. What's wrong with my socks? Would it not turn you on sex with those socks on? | |||
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"They won't ban flights to London or anywhere in UK so many Irish there.. " Maybe check rte.ie | |||
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"Done, 48 hour ban. Was the ban for those socks Doghunter Not a fab ban. What's wrong with my socks? Would it not turn you on sex with those socks on? " You can leave the socks and even a hat on DH, just whip the rest off | |||
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"Done, 48 hour ban. Was the ban for those socks Doghunter Not a fab ban. What's wrong with my socks? Would it not turn you on sex with those socks on? " Of course they would....look what they are attached to | |||
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"I hope Ireland will follow other European countries and ban flights and ferries asap. should of been done day 1 but they're not going to do it now. They do seriously consider it as there's a new strain in the Uk that is more contagious. airlines came out here this morning and said they have no plans to stop flights from the UK. It's done, young man." considering now. I'll wait with baited breath. probably too late at this stage. | |||
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"They won't ban flights to London or anywhere in UK so many Irish there.. Maybe check rte.ie" They're only thinking about it.. Typical of them I dunno what there is to think about just ban flights to UK and be done with it.. Even ferrys.. | |||
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