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married and playing without permission in a pandemic!!

By *uckypuppy007 OP Woman over a year ago

dublin

finding alot of profiles and messages from married & playing behind partnersback. In todays current covid climate, hypothetically & unknowingly i could pass it to you, then you onto your wife and unknowingly her onto her elderly parent(s) & in so doing may kill them as well as ruining many lives!

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

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By *ischief2020Man over a year ago

Borderline

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By *eductively_SweetWoman over a year ago

wexford

"finding alot of profiles and messages from married & playing behind partnersback. In todays current covid climate, hypothetically & unknowingly i could pass it to you, then you onto your wife and unknowingly her onto her elderly parent(s) & in so doing may kill them as well as ruining many lives!

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

I dont see why you have to be married sure all of the above can happen with with single ppl too and cpls that choose to play during covid.

Plus no one here has to justify why they are here to anyone one on fab for that matter.

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By *ischief2020Man over a year ago

Borderline

There are people on here of both sexes without the knowledge of their partners. It doesn’t mean they are meeting, but those who are do pose a risk not only to their partners and their parents, but their own parents, children, family, friends and anyone else they come in contact with.

Stay away!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's safe to say that,

people who are playing behind their husbands/wives backs, arent taking their partners best interests into account.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone here playing runs the risk of spreading Covid19. Thats the risk everyone takes.

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By *olm_irishMan over a year ago

Clonee

Ha ha OP... you are thinking very deep for a Monday! Not sure if referencing "married" etc has any place in your question. Yes it's easy target them but is there any difference in 2 random singles meeting and going home to there family, house mates, work or even visiting there grandparents after?

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By *olm_irishMan over a year ago

Clonee

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

I dont see why you have to be married sure all of the above can happen with with single ppl too and cpls that choose to play during covid.

Plus no one here has to justify why they are here to anyone one on fab for that matter.

True

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By *oseredWoman over a year ago

Dublin

"Ha ha OP... you are thinking very deep for a Monday! Not sure if referencing "married" etc has any place in your question. Yes it's easy target them but is there any difference in 2 random singles meeting and going home to there family, house mates, work or even visiting there grandparents after?

Two Random people both knowingling took a risk, allowingvthem to alter or not their contacts after. Someone playing behind their partners back for what ever thier reason (nobody's buisness btw) means at least one other person is not being informed and therefore not knowingly consenting to any risk being taken. So yeah, I think thete is a difference. Stay safe people.

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By *oiracpl38Couple over a year ago

moira ish

I think because if u both make the decision it’s an informed choice but for wife/husband to do it without agreement from partner is risking a lot maybe,but same could be said anyway with sexual health

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By *oseredWoman over a year ago

Dublin

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By *oseredWoman over a year ago

Dublin

"I think because if u both make the decision it’s an informed choice but for wife/husband to do it without agreement from partner is risking a lot maybe,but same could be said anyway with sexual health "

Not really the same kind of risk. Covid spread and STI are not exposing the same number of people to risk.

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By *olm_irishMan over a year ago

Clonee

Fair point. Staying safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont see why you have to be married sure all of the above can happen with with single ppl too and cpls that choose to play during covid.

Plus no one here has to justify why they are here to anyone one on fab for that matter.

Truth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In todays current covid climate, hypothetically & unknowingly i could pass it to you, then you onto your wife and unknowingly her onto her elderly parent(s) & in so doing may kill them as well as ruining many lives!

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

You could pass anything on to anyone, anywhere. You don't really get to choose when and where.

This is a Coronavirus. It's seasonal. And very very very very very very small. And is airbound and aerosol. Like all other Coronaviruses.

We can't hide behind a couch for the rest of your lives. This had to go through the people, naturally. And it will.

The virus is now endemic. It's not going to go away. The only way it will is via eventual herd immunity. Yes, the virus will mutate along the way - but Coronaviruses aren't very good at that so the danger of it will lesson as time goes on.

This isn't the first virus humanity has faced It won't be the last. We have to trust our immune systems

Unfortunately, the virus will take it's toll with very old people (usually with co-morbidities). But for the vast majority of everyone else, you'd be very very unlucky to be hospitalized with it.

We might as well live.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So are the singles and couples who are meeting isolating themselves from work colleagues, children, other family members? Are they informing those people? Because if not, there's no difference whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

You could pass anything on to anyone, anywhere. You don't really get to choose when and where.

This is a Coronavirus. It's seasonal. And very very very very very very small. And is airbound and aerosol. Like all other Coronaviruses.

We can't hide behind a couch for the rest of your lives. This had to go through the people, naturally. And it will.

This isn't the first virus humanity has faced It won't be the last. We have to trust our immune systems

Unfortunately, the virus will take it's toll with very old people (usually with co-morbidities). But for the vast majority of everyone else, you'd be very very unlucky to be hospitalized with it.

We might as well live."

Can you explain how it is seasonal?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypothetically, you could be buying bread in a supermarket and catch it. There's certainly a higher risk factor of catching the virus in sexual contact but unless you're planning not to have sex with any strangers ever again, you gotta risk it some time, somewhere whoever you are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you explain how it is seasonal?"

It comes in peaks and troughs. It is building again now and will peak throughout Winter before dying off again late Spring/early Summer. That's for temperate climes in the Northern Hemisphere. If you check out Ivor Cummins' videos on Youtube, they explain this phenomenon well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you explain how it is seasonal?

But it peaked in late Spring/early summer did it not? How does the wave that spread throughout the world (regardless of climate or season) fit with th notion of seasonality?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

Are they? You dont need to be doing any of those things to pass it on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

Are they? You dont need to be doing any of those things to pass it on"

True, but if you do have it you are more likely to pass it to someone by say kissing them, than sitting in an office with them.

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By *yesgreenMan over a year ago

north and south

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

Are they? You dont need to be doing any of those things to pass it on"
Well said touching from a Distance , Could not have put it better Covid 1 to 18 never Sucks SADE Succeeded , First one was spell check but it’s funny and we need to be thankful for the strong ones

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By *ischief2020Man over a year ago

Borderline

I find it a very short sighted & costly bit of fun... would you not agree?

Please discuss, enlighten me of your justification...

You could pass anything on to anyone, anywhere. You don't really get to choose when and where.

This is a Coronavirus. It's seasonal. And very very very very very very small. And is airbound and aerosol. Like all other Coronaviruses.

We can't hide behind a couch for the rest of your lives. This had to go through the people, naturally. And it will.

This isn't the first virus humanity has faced It won't be the last. We have to trust our immune systems

Unfortunately, the virus will take it's toll with very old people (usually with co-morbidities). But for the vast majority of everyone else, you'd be very very unlucky to be hospitalized with it.

We might as well live."

Unfortunately we do not know the full effects of COVID-19. There are fit people who got it and recovered, but still can’t walk very far without getting out of breath. We do not know how it will affect people who are asymptomatic - will their health begin to decline in 10, 20 or 30 years time? Simply saying the old will suffer the most may not be the full truth. We will only know for sure in a number of years even after we discover a vaccine. So I wouldn’t be too complacent.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

Are they? You dont need to be doing any of those things to pass it on

True, but if you do have it you are more likely to pass it to someone by say kissing them, than sitting in an office with them. "

Not hugging their children, kissing them goodnight, or kissing them goodbye as they head off to school with perhaps 500 other people?

The point is, married people who are meeting without their partners permission are no different to others who are meeting. People will do what people will do, but calling out one particular group isn't really fair

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By *yesgreenMan over a year ago

north and south

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

Are they? You dont need to be doing any of those things to pass it onWell said touching from a Distance , Could not have put it better Covid 1 to 18 never Sucks SADE Succeeded , First one was spell check but it’s funny and we need to be thankful for the strong ones "
Coincidently it’s a great name for fab Ivor Cummins

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can you explain how it is seasonal?

But it peaked in late Spring/early summer did it not? How does the wave that spread throughout the world (regardless of climate or season) fit with th notion of seasonality?"

I think the infection/fatality curve has a different curved shape in the North Hemisphere - a Gompertz curve which is steep (temp climates) and a different a double humped shape in other climates nearer the equator, possibly Southern Hemisphere (but I am not sure about that.) As far as I know, these kinds of viruses spread East to West, historically.

You really need to look up Ivor Cummins' vids on this as he explains it very well just using the data from each country - no dogma, BS or conspiracies

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By *ischief2020Man over a year ago

Borderline

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them. "

You think a mother or father doesn’t care about their children if they cheat? It can be a bit more complicated than that. Just because they are having an affair (or whatever) doesn’t mean they are unethical in every thing they do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Unfortunately we do not know the full effects of COVID-19. There are fit people who got it and recovered, but still can’t walk very far without getting out of breath. We do not know how it will affect people who are asymptomatic - will their health begin to decline in 10, 20 or 30 years time? Simply saying the old will suffer the most may not be the full truth. We will only know for sure in a number of years even after we discover a vaccine. So I wouldn’t be too complacent. "

All the above is possible. It's also possible that no matter what measures you take to stop it, they won't be enough. It's also possible that the vaccine might not work for some body types. It's also possible that you'll break your ankle and end up in hospital and catch it there.

Life itself is a risk.

Will staying in lockdown forever more keep the virus away ?

I knew someone years back who spent her secondary school years being educated in a remote peninsula on the West Coast. In college, she spent the next 2 years with fevers, coughs, colds and all kinds of other stuff.

We are designed to build immunity. We need to be in contact with each other a lot to do that. Hiding away from the virus - and not just this virus - is no good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

As someone whose father cheated, I think that cheating parents are weak and cowardly and selfish. I'm well aware that affairs are complicated. I know first hand what cheating does to kids and how it shapes the adults they grow into, and how it actually changes them forever no matter how hard they try to let it go. So do not lecture me about how complicated it is. It is and has been my lived experience. I'm aware.

And contrary to the beliefs of people who think swinging means throwing away your basic morales, I don't think there is ever an excuse for it. I don't care if your bitch wife does nothing but nag. I don't care if you've slowly fallen out of love. I don't care if she cheats and you think that justifies your cheating. And I have absolutely no respect for anyone who cheats because they don't want to break the family up by leaving.

Some people will say I'm heartless for this or that I'm not taking into account all of the many nuanced factors that contribute to cheating. I don't give a flying fuck. It's wrong and it ruins people's lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I doubt the singles are going back to the office and snogging, shagging and sharing a bed with their colleagues and family members.. Married people are?

What about single parents. Anyone who plays unfortunately runs the risk of catching and spreading this virus.

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By *eductively_SweetWoman over a year ago

wexford

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

Everyones situation is completely different I to am talking from experience in been that kid who's father cheated and I can honestly say I didn't carry it me to my adult life. Nor did it effect me in any negative way growing up. Ppl need to expect EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT no matter what their experience is..

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

It's not our lives so who gives anyone the right to attack when it doesnt effect our own lives in any way what others here do..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

It's not our lives so who gives anyone the right to attack when it doesnt effect our own lives in any way what others here do.. "

Actually, you're dead right. In the off chance that you won't destroy your children and cause them untold pain for years to come (cos it's mot 100% absolutely garunteed that you will), you should absolutely shag away!

I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to yours. I was just truthfully answering a question I was asked.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home. "

Also. You spelled "cheat" wrong.

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By *yesgreenMan over a year ago

north and south

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

Also. You spelled "cheat" wrong.

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No two people’s life’s are the same , Alcoholics are very selfish but they still enjoy drinking workaholics are very selfish but I still enjoy working people who mentally abuse other people still go to work !!!! So who are we to judge people enjoying lovely sexy fun as they have lived though so much , we are not here to judge but to swing

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By *eductively_SweetWoman over a year ago

wexford

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

It's not our lives so who gives anyone the right to attack when it doesnt effect our own lives in any way what others here do..

I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to yours. I was just truthfully answering a question I was asked. "

That we are.However I'm not sure what my children have to do with your opinion. As a single person I just gave my take on been a kid from a broken home and who it didn't effect through my lifetime. At the end of the day we are just two very different women with very different experiences and opinions which I'm sure won't change for either of us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

Also. You spelled "cheat" wrong.

I have no idea what you're saying.

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By *igBlondeDommeWoman over a year ago

middle of nowhere

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

Also. You spelled "cheat" wrong.

No two people’s life’s are the same , Alcoholics are very selfish but they still enjoy drinking workaholics are very selfish but I still enjoy working people who mentally abuse other people still go to work !!!! So who are we to judge people enjoying lovely sexy fun as they have lived though so much , we are not here to judge but to swing

Are you comparing alcoholics to people who cheat?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This is just another thread to dig at married ppl Who play away from home.

It's not our lives so who gives anyone the right to attack when it doesnt effect our own lives in any way what others here do..

I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled to yours. I was just truthfully answering a question I was asked.

Sorry, just to be clear, I didn't specifically mean your children. I was speaking hypothetically, big specifically about your life. I wouldn't be that presumptuous. Sorry if it came across that way.

And yep, you're right. Having had the experience I've had I can't imagine I'll ever change my mind about cheating and I'll never apologise for it. That's just me though!

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By *1CorkCouple over a year ago

Cork

Jesus wept. Bit dramatic. I went and met a buddy for coffee without telling the missus, am I on the hook for manslaughter or murder if the mother in law croaks? Can the high moral ground swingers (oxymoron) please enlighten?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Jesus wept. Bit dramatic. I went and met a buddy for coffee without telling the missus, am I on the hook for manslaughter or murder if the mother in law croaks? Can the high moral ground swingers (oxymoron) please enlighten?"

Please explain how "high moral ground swingers" is an oxymoron?

And um... No. I don't think anyone mentioned anything about coffee being cheating?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Terrible carry on

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By *uckypuppy007 OP Woman over a year ago

dublin

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

#fact

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

std's or alcoholic or workaholic are very different from rolling the dice of a new and unknown path of this virus & my point is running the risk with no informed consent to a partner... well, we all know what we call no consent ?

love & peace but please, stay safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

#fact

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

love & peace but please, stay safe "

Sorry, are you now saying it's the same as r*pe???

And the point still remains that anyone, not just those playing away/cheating/whatever you want to call it, risks passing on Covid to those who have not given their consent to any of their previous contacts. Unless of course you are self isolating after every single contact with every single person and every single surface you touch.

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By *ELegendMan over a year ago

kildare

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

#fact

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

love & peace but please, stay safe "

I rather have covid than b with someone that works all day drinks all night and could give me VD!!! ??????

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By *he English OneMan over a year ago

west

I swear I read a thread about people meeting during covid last week or is this the same one

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By *uckypuppy007 OP Woman over a year ago

dublin

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By *uckypuppy007 OP Woman over a year ago

dublin

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

love & peace but please, stay safe

I rather have covid than b with someone that works all day drinks all night and could give me VD!!! ??????"

the whole point is everyone has different risk levels...rather not have any - covid, alcoholic or VD ... but if I want to run the risk, I do so (as they also l) knowingly with consent

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

#fact

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

love & peace but please, stay safe

I rather have covid than b with someone that works all day drinks all night and could give me VD!!! ??????"

I think a lot may actually agree with you . How can anyone make light of std's

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In my personal opinion and experience, people who are playing behind their partners back (AKA Cheating) are rarely concerned about others I wouldn't be expecting much on the ethical front from them.

#fact

I apologise for having "married" in title as I mean anyone who plays behind the back of their partner - A CHEAT!! - but my random rambling stays the same...

love & peace but please, stay safe "

I find your comment in reference to no consent very offensive and belittling to anyone who has suffered as a result of a sexual assault.

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