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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hi All,

Wondering here, as there are plenty of us on here who are parents with children, what would you thoughts on them following on with swinging?

PLEASE NOTE BEFORE RESPONDING:

***To clarify here - I am neither supporting, or opposed to, whatever anyone thinks, and will in no way judge - this is more a What If scenario. This is NOT IN ANY WAY about getting it on with your kids either - as I’m sure some will try to interpret it that way!***

So, the question is:

Are you for or against your children swinging, and how would you handle bumping into your children at a social or event?

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I worry about younger (up to 25) folks in here. I'm not sure they all have the maturity to handle the complexities that come with the swinging lifestyle specifically to do with real life relationships and the effect it has.

Aside to this I would want to be sure that they weren't taking risks with STDs or from the people that they met.

I think I would need to have a really good conversation with them and make sure they have covered all the angles to do it as safely as possible, and in such a way as not to damage potential real relationships.

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By *antra MassageMan  over a year ago

South Side.

I presume you mean the adult children, (or grandchildren) of a swinging couple. So, interesting question. It's probably happening in more mature swinging societies, like UK, and USA, and libertine France. To be honest... I dont want to think about this too much... Or, at all...... No,.... Hard to imagine...

But that's just me, don't want to go there.

Of course, you could ask those young swinging adults what do they thing of their swinging parents....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know of a couple of mother/daughters on here. Tbh if swinging is the worst thing they get up to I won't complain

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I worry about younger (up to 25) folks in here. I'm not sure they all have the maturity to handle the complexities that come with the swinging lifestyle specifically to do with real life relationships and the effect it has.

Aside to this I would want to be sure that they weren't taking risks with STDs or from the people that they met.

I think I would need to have a really good conversation with them and make sure they have covered all the angles to do it as safely as possible, and in such a way as not to damage potential real relationships. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Yeah, I’m the curious sort, and wondered about this - especially despite the “acceptance” (and I say that very, very sarcastically) of swinging in Ireland in recent years as a lifestyle choice (and yet there are so many that still get it wrong: just take the BDSM community and the 50 Shades movies as exhibit no.1) choice.

With the still very much taboo topic of sex in our Catholic country - what do people here think of generational swinging in light of the above, and how anyone that actually enjoys sex being a degenerate or reprobate.

And yes, I mean our children/grandchildren over the age of consent.

I still think it’s mad that the age for sexual consent is 17, but the age for legal and financial “maturity” is 18.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There's a mother & daughter on here from Ireland.

And I've seen cousins on here and I managed too bump into an aunty of mine at a party. That was flipping awakard.

So it can an does happen. As long as their not breaking the law or rules I don't seen issue with it.

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By *ohndunboyneMan  over a year ago

Dunboyne & Dublin

Once they are 18, their sexual/lifestyle choices are their own.

That's the cold hard fact.

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork


"Once they are 18, their sexual/lifestyle choices are their own.

That's the cold hard fact."

Absolutely, but that doesn't mean that older more experienced adults can't talk to their adult children about stuff that might help them make good decisions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am third generation

Now in my family

Swinging

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By *1CorkCouple  over a year ago

Cork

We’d hope to keep any and all aspects of our sex life private from our kids, even when they are young adults. Call us old fashioned but we won’t want to know anything about their sex lives either once they have left school. We’ll try and equip them through education and information on the pitfalls but won’t try and influence their tastes or preferences by sharing ours.

We’ll be approaching 60 when our kids reach the age we started so we wouldn’t have much fear about ‘bumping‘ into them at parties or gatherings.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Once they are adults I think it's entirely up to themselves what they do in their sex life be it swinging or anything else once done safely.

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By *ickNamelessMan  over a year ago

Valencia, Spain, Dublin, Cork

I have two teenage children, with whom I no longer live following divorce. As most parents, and as others have remarked here, I would not want to know details of my children’s sex lives. Being my children, and having been brought up in what I consider an enlightened atmosphere that encouraged critique and questioning of social norms, it would not surprise me if they sought out transgressive experiences. I would probably be morally neutral about it, or perhaps at some level pleased that they are following in my footsteps. But my fundamental ethical position is that a person’s sex life is a private matter between them, their partners, and whoever they voluntarily disclose information. I believe that parents shouldn’t - and shouldn’t want to - know details such as whether or not their adult children engage in consensual non-monogamy. If the children wish to disclose or discuss anything, they should be free to do so. The role of parent does involve some sexual and emotional guidance, but not detailed knowledge or breakdown of normal intergenerational boundaries.

It would be very disturbing to encounter any relatives in a swinging context, especially one’s children. They would be “matter out place”. Kinship is a system for regulating sexual relations and establishing categories of people, prescribing and proscribing sexual activity between the categories and, crucially, providing a structure for bringing up children and ensuring their and society’s survival and wellbeing. The family is the primary building block of society, and when the sexual and familial categories become confused, such as a parent meeting their child at a social or swinging event, social order breaks down at a very fundamental level, and this is obviously psychologically distressing for both parties. It is probably very rare, but I believe it happens. A friend from here met a younger relative at an event, was contacted by a blood relative of her own generation, and by a business associate of one of her parents. I have also heard second-hand from a person I met through here that somebody she had met ran into her own 25-year-old son. It is a nightmare scenario that I wouldn’t wish on any parent or child.

Related to the main question and to the friend who has come across relatives, there might be a higher probability that children of swingers – whether they know about their parents’ sex life or not – are more likely to follow in their footsteps. One can speculate about the reasons for this, but general attitudes to life are shaped in the family and transmitted unconsciously. Even if there is no intention to establish a family “tradition”, all the accumulated influences from parents who swing might result in the children arriving at a similar destination. Whether we like it or not, rebel against them or emulate them, our parents are a primary component in what makes us the persons we are, and this is often reflected in political values, careers, and possibly sexual tastes. And there may even be genetic bases for an individual’s sexual tastes. In my own case, I know nothing in detail (and this is how it should be), but one of my late, and at that time demented, parents hinted that they had had at least one threesome and that the other parent had had same-sex extramarital affairs. I was in my 30s when this was hinted at; I found it very unpleasant and ascribed it to dementia. It was a case of the social categories and roles described above breaking down.

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By *hyrichMan  over a year ago

lincolnshire

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By *hyrichMan  over a year ago

lincolnshire


"I know of a couple of mother/daughters on here. Tbh if swinging is the worst thing they get up to I won't complain "

I wouldn't mind finding them on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Couldn't bring myself to think of my kids having sex when older never mind swinging.

As adults they can do what they want but I don't need to know.

I'm sure they would probably be more mortified to see me at an event than the other way around.

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By *tud17Man  over a year ago

Coventry


"I know of a couple of mother/daughters on here. Tbh if swinging is the worst thing they get up to I won't complain "

Wow really

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By *onumberMan  over a year ago

charleville

Maturity and age are not one and the same. We were 18 starting out, enjoyed every minute. To be fair was were nearly always the youngest in the room.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I know of a couple of mother/daughters on here. Tbh if swinging is the worst thing they get up to I won't complain "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Second generation here my mother no longer uses the site. We made sure to block each other and avoid going to the same events - we did go to a social together once though. It was either go to it or spend one of my precious few nights at home alone!

Would I have a problem with my kids being on here? No. Not if they knew what they were getting in to. I can't judge them for doing the same as me. I would also strive to not let them know about my sex life, but if they found out about this as an adult, that's up to them.

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By *oserMan  over a year ago

where the wild roses grow


"Second generation here my mother no longer uses the site. We made sure to block each other and avoid going to the same events - we did go to a social together once though. It was either go to it or spend one of my precious few nights at home alone!

Would I have a problem with my kids being on here? No. Not if they knew what they were getting in to. I can't judge them for doing the same as me. I would also strive to not let them know about my sex life, but if they found out about this as an adult, that's up to them."

Penny drops, whoops if I overstepped previously

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By *ilthyNightsCouple  over a year ago

East / North, Cork

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By *mudge616Man  over a year ago

DONCASTER

My aunty and uncle have seen us at a club

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By *oxtrotTangoLoveMan  over a year ago

monkstown/kentstown


"I worry about younger (up to 25) folks in here. I'm not sure they all have the maturity to handle the complexities that come with the swinging lifestyle specifically to do with real life relationships and the effect it has.

Aside to this I would want to be sure that they weren't taking risks with STDs or from the people that they met.

I think I would need to have a really good conversation with them and make sure they have covered all the angles to do it as safely as possible, and in such a way as not to damage potential real relationships. "

Thats true!

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By *oxtrotTangoLoveMan  over a year ago

monkstown/kentstown


"I know of a couple of mother/daughters on here. Tbh if swinging is the worst thing they get up to I won't complain "

You can always keep an eye on them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ah younger people are probably maturer about sex and relationships than older generations. It was younger cousins and a younger work colleague who told me about fab swingers and another younger work colleague who told me about about polyamory and abut the kinky club Nimhneach. haha she worked as a till girl in shop where I worked as a butcher and when I was buying something at the till she said 'i think you're polyamorous' and invited me for a drink with her and some people from her polyamorous relationship. Life got in the way unfortunately/fortunately so we never got to progress it, but apart from me finding out that she became very indiscreet about living her lifestyle, I found her and her group very mature about the whole thing and to be having a really good time.

I wouldn't want to know the details of my sons sex life when he gets older [the conception of my son was one of the things that got in the way of me progressing into polyamory with this group] but I expect him to be open minded and mature about sex so I accept that it's likely that he will explore/experiment with this lifestyle.

I think that there has been a conditioning of society that has seen monogamous relationships be saturated in jealousy, deceit, distrust, possessiveness and narcissism and I think that the swinging scene and polyamorous and consensual non-monagomous relationships will go a long way to building healthier relationsips.

If the swinging scene and the above relationships are done right then they have fantastic potential for being a great benefit to society, for conditioning people to be more accepting, less possessive, less jealous, and more loving and trusting. Things do need to be done right though.

I get that for older generations [including my own in the 30's bracket] that this conditioning to be so jealous etc is already too well ingrained with most people and so it can mean that if open minded people are married or tied into a long term relationship with someone not open minded, then it could be more damaging and disruptive to be open with them about swinging etc. I think the key there though is that people are actually better to lay the cards onto the table early on in relationships and therefore then it's important for younger people to be involved in swinging etc.

If you're in a relationship for 15 years and only develop the confidence to engage in, or just a strong pull towards swinging in the later years of a relationship then of course it's going to be hard to win your partner over to it, particularly if ye know rightly how conditioned they are to be opposed to such a concept.

And the strange thing is that the conditioning to be opposed to such concepts as consensual non-monogamy is often highly irrational. haha I have a female friend who I used to sleep with, that is still resisting joining the swinging world despite everything she says about whats going wrong in her relationships and what she'd like, to be totally pointing towards needing to embrace this other lifestyle. She fancies other women and has had some lesbian experiences, though prefers to engage with such experiences d*unk and to get fellas horny. she has enjoyed some threesomes recently. she doesn't want the whole world knowing her business. she has kids so she wants to be able to fit her sexual relationships conveniently around her free time from the kids/ she loves to get stripped fully naked when d*unk, in parties. And she's got a really healthy sexual appetite, loves a good pounding. Yet the minute I suggest fabswingers.com she freaks out and goes 'oh no that wouldnt be for me' haha cos she has a narrative inside her head about it not be something that she could or would do. It's not something that they would want to say about themselves.

I think that we really need to get beyond all this pettiness. The potential for this lifestyle is great. To my mind it is much more in tune with peoples natures and by committing to monogamous relationships, for many people this is in fact suppressing their souls. No offence to a lot of the older generations, I think that most are actually highly emotionally immature, and are judging the emotional/sexual maturity of younger people based on their own immaturity at a younger age. While much of my generation of people in the 30's are still also very emotionally immature, more and more are breaking free from the immature conditioning foisted upon our generation by the parents. And as this evolution happens, the next generations growing up too will grow even moreso past this immaturity if nurtured in the right way too.

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