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Married men...

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Theres only one thing worser than a single men (and god knows single men are just disgusting horrible creatures) and thats MARRIED MEN. Those cheats, horrible creatures that cheat on their lovely, gorgeous, heavenly wives. Why dont they just get off the site and leave it for those that deserve to be there. Thats singles (though not single men cos they are just well, I said it already), and couples of course. Couples are lovely. They are perfect. You cant complain about couples. We need more couples. And more TV's. Long as they are not MARRRIED TV's.

And isnt it odd? Its always married MEN that are scum and cheats. Married women are just, well lonely, misunderstood and not appreciated..

And before you fecking start roaring at me, read the above with your tongue firmly in your cheek.

Pullease and tanks

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By *ouple1234Couple over a year ago

BELFAST UK

hit the nail on the head, all cheats will be found out in the end

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Exactly couple all those MEN are cheats and bastards.

And tell me. Do you wear your winter woolies up there on the moral very high ground?

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By *ouple1234Couple over a year ago

BELFAST UK

always it fecking cold up here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

did you forget to take zantax this morn jimmy lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just love married men, they're so appreciative.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just love married men, they're so appreciative.

Lol lol..... You so bold...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just love married men, they're so appreciative.

Lol lol..... You so bold...

moi? never!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh sweet Jesus there's so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start!! While I don't condone people playing away I certainly won't be jumping in to judge them. Yes it's not nice but we have no idea what other people's circumstances are

also I'd live to know how you know that all these wives are heavenly, goregous and lovely

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm guessing the OP's post was a tongue in cheek one ?/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope so either that or this appartently opened minded group are getting even more narrow minded and judgemental and jeez considering the forum the last few days I didn't think that was possible

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can think of a few cheeks i would like to put my tongue

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By *arlow77Man over a year ago

carlow

No one knows wat happens behind closed doors so why judge us married men, at least some of us put it up that we're married so u can choose if u want to play or not.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

have no problem with married men doing what they want (just dont expect to do it with us) but dont fool yourselves into thinking you are being honest just because you put it in a profile on the internet.

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Hey _ouple1234 make room up there on the moral high ground. Now we have these guys not only sermonising on the mount, but taking the opportunity to recommonend marriage counselling to the great unwashed scumbag lying cheating married men (note not women) on a swinging site.

Bless their little hearts

"have no problem with married men doing what they want (just dont expect to do it with us) but dont fool yourselves into thinking you are being honest just because you put it in a profile on the internet.

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

someone is wearing their ranty panties today

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By *ouple1234Couple over a year ago

BELFAST UK

plenty of room up here dont worry Lol

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"Hey _ouple1234 make room up there on the moral high ground. Now we have these guys not only sermonising on the mount, but taking the opportunity to recommonend marriage counselling to the great unwashed scumbag lying cheating married men (note not women) on a swinging site.

Bless their little hearts

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it.

well, as a couple that have both been the victim of these lying, cheating scumbags, i think we are well within our rights to talk about people cheating on their partners.

myself, i was nearly destroyed by finding out my wife was sleeping with someone else behind my back.

lost confidence, self esteem right up to even the will to live to a certain extent, (thought about it often and still have the odd occasion that i slip back into those dark thoughts and Em has a hard time to either leave me the hell alone, or try and talk me out of it)

so, if you feel you can be blase about the feelings and thoughts of otherwise normally, level headed people, once they find out what has been happening right under their noses i sincerely hope to fuck you are never on the end of it, because i guarantee you will not find the funny side of it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Cool so your little rant about marriage counselling on a swinger site (shall I repeat that a swingers site, not the married mothers of seven rosary site) informs you for the whole world.

By all means have your opinions. I for one find smokers a bit offputting and i dont usually meet people who smoke. But if they smoke they smoke and its their funeral. I dont suggest that smokers have their own fabsmokers site (though theres an idea).

Have an opinion, certainly, be my guest. Force that opinion on others? No thanks....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Cool so your little rant about marriage counselling on a swinger site (shall I repeat that a swingers site, not the married mothers of seven rosary site) informs you for the whole world.

Have an opinion, certainly, be my guest. Force that opinion on others? No thanks...."

How is it being forced though?? Or am I missing something? Genuine question btw!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Well let me put it this way to go back to my smokers analogy. If I suggested that all smoking swingers should go to their gp today right now and get their gp to prescribe nicorette and they should chew the nicorette rather than go on fab, would the average smoker here think I was rather forceful in my opinion and complain that perhaps if I bothered my backside to understand why they smoked or about their circumstances, I might be better informed?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hey don't bring smokers into this! Some of the best fun i've had were on smoke breaks!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

aw attackin the smokers again i see ya defs did,nt take your zantax this morn or maybe your on your moons lol !! so thats cheaters and smokers gettin a bashin , well here some more food for thought !!

why not put pictures of obese children and adults on mr donalds packaging !

why not pictures of tortured animals on cosmetic product!

why not put photos of the victims of d*unk drivers on wine bottles !

why not put pictures of dishonest thieving politicans enjoying our money on tax rerurn forms !!

what if what if what if !! lighten up to fk will ye,s its the wknd !

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

please tell me where i said they should go to marriage guidance?

you were the first to mention that.

i said do they put as much effort into their marriages as they do in finding an illicit shag?

please do point me to the quote.

if you cant find it, then please do see TY,s post on the x factor swinging thread.

and have a nice day

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"please tell me where i said they should go to marriage guidance?

you were the first to mention that.

i said do they put as much effort into their marriages as they do in finding an illicit shag?

please do point me to the quote.

if you cant find it, then please do see TY,s post on the x factor swinging thread.

pmsl aw you can borrow that one if ya like haha cracker

and have a nice day"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jimmy's got worse PMS than I tend to get

lighten up bud!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ah um ok well!!!! nope!! not saying a thing!!! have no view piont!!!, sits back and observes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

wouldnt let some creepy married guy near me all about fun with no baggage or lies and would also go for married f as well,get your fun but not with us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

From experience there are just as many married women on this site as men....how bizarre on a swinging/sex site people should take the moral high ground, how absolutley Irish !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"From experience there are just as many married women on this site as men....how bizarre on a swinging/sex site people should take the moral high ground, how absolutley Irish !!!

Begorrah!

Some people really need to chill out though, maybe the guilty conscience causes all this misdirected rage?? lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Lots of rage and indeed fury but scan up and tell me is the spitting rage coming from married guys or people who have had rotten experiences in their own lives and feel it necessary to impose their sadness on everyone else?

And now on top of marriage counselling we have talk of guilty conscience. Guilty conscience. Really. On a swinging site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jimmy, Can I ask you the point of your Forum post?

just curious to see a man trying to be moralistic on a Swinging site?

Is there a specific incident, or maybe someone you know got hurt, or had a lot of trouble caused by a Married guy ??

I'm really curious, and it's a genuine question..

Thanks.

Dave

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

jimmy, you still havent pointed to where i say they should go to marriage counselling/guidance

this thread was just posted to stir up a hornets nest, one feels, and you are a stirrer of the highest order.

oh, and the composer of this post is NOT irish.

still, doesnt mean the irish shouldnt have morals/standards or indeed feel for the poor woman sat at home thinking she has a perfect hubby where instead she has a lying, cheating b'stard

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think he just wanted to watch the fallout

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Think he just wanted to watch the fallout"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lots of rage and indeed fury but scan up and tell me is the spitting rage coming from married guys or people who have had rotten experiences in their own lives and feel it necessary to impose their sadness on everyone else?

And now on top of marriage counselling we have talk of guilty conscience. Guilty conscience. Really. On a swinging site

Well then you shouldn't let sadness be imposed on you surely? Why do you care so much what complete strangers think of the state of your marriage? Plenty of people out there who don't care if you are married or not so why not focus on that instead?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Think he just wanted to watch the fallout"

Hahaha I think you may be right, he's always on the forum with his rantypants on, I have a an image of some guy bashing his keyboard with steam comin out of his ears swearing at the screen lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh i know. I've seen the rants. I shall say no more or i get meself another ban

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Never realised I had so many people following my posts . I am touched truly its humbling

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Never realised I had so many people following my posts . I am touched truly its humbling

Well if you read the forums chances are you are going to read posts that people make shock horror! Your posts seem to follow a similar theme of being annoyed about something or other. I therefore used my brain and made an observation based on this, imagine that!

lol

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By *ouple1234Couple over a year ago

BELFAST UK

best thing i seem on a profile a while back ' i do have pictures but i keep them hidden incase my wife see's me on here'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

haha, this site is the biggest anti-marriage advert going

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By *ouple1234Couple over a year ago

BELFAST UK

What else can we maon about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Researchers have found that in a 50'yr study from 1961 to 2011 the biggest cause of divorce in the U.K was....marriage.

Food for thought ........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"worser"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We are married but my wife suffers from depression..We are still very much in love..she does not like sex..she is nervous..I am highly sexed, yes you may have heard it all before, but try living with it. Its all in my profile. This way we are both happy (no she is not aware I am on here..sooo I will be judged)?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love smoking and cheating.....................................at monopoly lol

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"We are married but my wife suffers from depression..We are still very much in love..she does not like sex..she is nervous..I am highly sexed, yes you may have heard it all before, but try living with it. Its all in my profile. This way we are both happy (no she is not aware I am on here..sooo I will be judged)?"

yes, you will be.

if your wife is depressed now, imagine how bad she will be to find her 'rock' is getting his jollies with rendom strangers???

dont worry, he woman you purport to love wont be around long after tat, i can assure you, cuz if her depression is as bad as mine was, then you will find her in a very bad situation once the truth comes out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

yes, you will be.

if your wife is depressed now, imagine how bad she will be to find her 'rock' is getting his jollies with rendom strangers???

I do fully appreciate your viewpoint thank you for sharing....in the height of one of my wifes lowpoints I got wrongly accused of many things...this site does help me cope as I guess I am damned if I do..or don't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it."

I agree with you entirely but I must just add a marriage should be just between a couple.....anyone on here has their own view of why they have chosen to share themselves with others..and agree that the single guys are possibly married..we are all here for the same end reason...rightly or wrongly?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

this old chestnut brought to life again i see lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think its anything to do with sharing yourself, its to do with the deception. However , I do try not to judge as you never know what goes on in peoples lives. However being on the receiving end of this type of behaviour myself I can only say that the feeling of betrayal was what hurt the most, I can handle most things as long as it is the truth, but I cannot handle lies. Once you realise someone has been lying to your face, its very very hard to come back from that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh and just to add as well, it does show a lack of respect for someone as a human being in my opinion, always better to spill the beans I think. At least it shows them you respect them enough to be upfront and then let them make their own decision, just as you have made yours.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it.

wrongly.

flip the table on yourself.

you feel down, your wife is there to support you, she doesnt pressure you for sex because, you feel, she is giving you space to find your happy place again, and you love and respect her for this.

all along, she is sliding up and down every greasy pole that turns her direction.

are you gonna be doing cartwheels IF, ar rather WHEN you find out?

or is your world gonna come crumbling down around your feet?

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple over a year ago

somewhere out there

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it.

wrongly.

flip the table on yourself.

you feel down, your wife is there to support you, she doesnt pressure you for sex because, you feel, she is giving you space to find your happy place again, and you love and respect her for this.

all along, she is sliding up and down every greasy pole that turns her direction.

are you gonna be doing cartwheels IF, ar rather WHEN you find out?

or is your world gonna come crumbling down around your feet?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

unles you sit your wife down and say 'by the way, love. im getting what im not off you, elsewhere' then you arent being honest, with yourself or others.

would like to think that 'single' men put as much effort in finding what is wrong with their marriage that they do in finding someone on here to have sex with, but i very much doubt it.

wrongly.

flip the table on yourself.

you feel down, your wife is there to support you, she doesnt pressure you for sex because, you feel, she is giving you space to find your happy place again, and you love and respect her for this.

all along, she is sliding up and down every greasy pole that turns her direction.

are you gonna be doing cartwheels IF, ar rather WHEN you find out?

or is your world gonna come crumbling down around your feet?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Opinions are fine, and no one is forced to do, or not do, whatever they are comfortable with.

Remember No means No,- that also applies to passing judgement your fellow human.

I may not share your opinion but i defend your right to express it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The old chestnut indeed . And please note its only married MEN that are the target here. Married women are pure and lovely and their husbands just don't do it for them that's what they are forced into these sites it appears .

Those with large chips on each shoulder who are "judging " you are laughable . But to be honest if you post something like that you might as well put a sign on your head that says "kick me here".

But honestly don't feel too bad . One of the people who is calling you names here has a hate list as long as your arm . They even hate "gingers" for heavens sake. Imagine going through life hating whole sections of society just because .

Now anyone who listens to that persons opinion is a born victim !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

jimmy you're such a stirrer!!

it was YOU who opened up a thread about married MEN.... if you want married WOMEN to be discussed, open up a new thread called MARRIED WOMEN.

Of course cheating women would be judged the same. Just as the example lovedup put up but I guess you choose to ignore it.

Get over the fact that some people say no to you because you're cheating on your wife. It seems you're the one judging them for doing so. Silly boy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"jimmy you're such a stirrer!!

it was YOU who opened up a thread about married MEN.... if you want married WOMEN to be discussed, open up a new thread called MARRIED WOMEN.

Of course cheating women would be judged the same. Just as the example lovedup put up but I guess you choose to ignore it.

Get over the fact that some people say no to you because you're cheating on your wife. It seems you're the one judging them for doing so. Silly boy. "

Completely agree

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"The old chestnut indeed . And please note its only married MEN that are the target here. Married women are pure and lovely and their husbands just don't do it for them that's what they are forced into these sites it appears .

Those with large chips on each shoulder who are "judging " you are laughable . But to be honest if you post something like that you might as well put a sign on your head that says "kick me here".

Now anyone who listens to that persons opinion is a born victim !!! "

sahme you sit down so often as your voice is muffled quite often.

married ANYTHING playing behind their partners back is, to put it lightly, disgraceful.

its a shame those that are honest on these boards, arent quite so honest in real life.

you can justify it to yourself all you want, and that includes you jimmy, as im guessing as the architect of this thread you are married, but in the eyes of your other half, and the god you took your vows to, you are not honest, you are nothing, and i bid your other halves all the luck in the world in being hapy eventually, with someone that treats them the same as they treat yous.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

The god you took your vow too . Did I really really read that ? On a swingers site ? Honestly ? Did I? I have to be dreaming honestly .

Ok loved up you guys both have ex's . Now you are with with each other. . You are sooooooo far out of touch with your god that he has set up a special fire for you . Cos you get to have sex with one person and one person ever . And if that person turns out to be a nutter. Why then you offer it up boys and girls and you get your reward in the next life . That's the rule of the god you took your view too . It's even written in tablets of stone least you doubt it .

So pullease give up on the morality lesson . On a swingers site . Honestly !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

have a wank jimmy to get rid of your frustrations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Eh your a bit confused i think jimmy. Say one thing and then the oppisite

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Bewitched you must secretly love me because you can't stop posting about me . Why only yesterday you told me I had no sense of humour . This thread was started by me with a stated tongue in cheek and has since been hijacked by those who feel entitled to impose their weird notion of morality on others . Today you want me to wank . Why don't you just ask me out ?

And kinkyworkman. Believe me . Simply posting nodding agreeing thumbs up posts without an opinion of your own won't get you laid by the people you are agreeing with . It just dosent work that way . I have tried it in the past so I have !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bewitched you must secretly love me because you can't stop posting about me . Why only yesterday you told me I had no sense of humour . This thread was started by me with a stated tongue in cheek and has since been hijacked by those who feel entitled to impose their weird notion of morality on others . Today you want me to wank . Why don't you just ask me out ?

sorry I don't do old grumpy men

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

you took vows in the eyes of your god.

i took vows in the eyes of mine.

all through my marriage i didnt do the wrong thing, she did.

can you say the same?

of course not.

and why do swingers have to be morally bankrupt?

the whole idea of swinging is a mutually satisfactory arrangement of fulfillment, sexually encompassing other people into your relationship.

NOT banging some random woman because your missus doesnt want it anymore.

only one type of person on this site has no morals, and those are the ones that lie and try to justify it.

just admit it, you are WRONG

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

BBw that's good cos I don't do size 24 women so we are sorted . I suggested you ask me out . I never said I would say yes!

Loveup I think it's clear I haven't the slightest interest in judging you . You brought up vows not me . If you want to use the yardstick of vows you guys are dead wrong . Simple . That's what the rules state.

You have no need to explain to me why you think you did no wrong because I aint judging you . But by the vows you brought up you guys should be sitting alone tonight with no one . That's what your vows you quote demand . Nothing less.

All I did was poiint out the stupidity of quoting vows in a swingers site .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who said i wanted to shag bb? Lovely person who makes me laugh but not my type. See not all SINGLE guys will shag anything with a pulse unlike others (no offense btw bb)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"BBw that's good cos I don't do size 24 women so we are sorted . I suggested you ask me out . I never said I would say yes!

Devasted now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who said i wanted to shag bb? Lovely person who makes me laugh but not my type. See not all SINGLE guys will shag anything with a pulse unlike others (no offense btw bb) "

why thanks... thank fook I at least have a pulse lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Want a tissue bb?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Jimmy....

Be careful... the higher the moral ground you're standing on, the greater the fall.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"BBw that's good cos I don't do size 24 women so we are sorted . I suggested you ask me out . I never said I would say yes!

All I did was poiint out the stupidity of quoting vows in a swingers site . "

lets see

for richer for poorer

check

in sickness and in health

check

forsaking all others.....

ah, this is the questionable one.

and seeing as we DO forsake all others then im guessing any vows we have taken are still very much intact thankyouverymuchineddedy.

you see, as i read it, forsaking all others is to the detriment of the one ou have chosen to be with for your life (once again, in the eyes of your family, friends and god)

the vast majority on here include others into their loving relationship to share in the emotions they have for each other.

now, please tell me how YOU stand up to those vows

you started by questioning the morality of others that say saying married singles are scum.

so YOU need to prove they are not so, and you arent doing a very good job of it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"BBw that's good cos I don't do size 24 women so we are sorted . I suggested you ask me out . I never said I would say yes!

All I did was poiint out the stupidity of quoting vows in a swingers site .

lets see

for richer for poorer

check

in sickness and in health

check

forsaking all others.....

ah, this is the questionable one.

and seeing as we DO forsake all others then im guessing any vows we have taken are still very much intact thankyouverymuchineddedy.

you see, as i read it, forsaking all others is to the detriment of the one ou have chosen to be with for your life (once again, in the eyes of your family, friends and god)

the vast majority on here include others into their loving relationship to share in the emotions they have for each other.

now, please tell me how YOU stand up to those vows

you started by questioning the morality of others that say saying married singles are scum.

so YOU need to prove they are not so, and you arent doing a very good job of it."

Not everyone uses the same vows

I certainly never did

Nor did I marry in a church - ie - in front of a "god"

Now Im not saying anyone who is cheating is right or wrong - what I am saying is dont be judging others by your own standards

Your hurt shows through every post you make - other people have different experiences - neither are right - nor wrong.

Perhaps an acceptance that people are different may be the best way forward?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some very aggressive posting here, why not go punch a pillow instead, or go outside and scream into the black void.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"Not everyone uses the same vows

I certainly never did

Nor did I marry in a church - ie - in front of a "god"

Now Im not saying anyone who is cheating is right or wrong - what I am saying is dont be judging others by your own standards

Your hurt shows through every post you make - other people have different experiences - neither are right - nor wrong.

Perhaps an acceptance that people are different may be the best way forward?"

i dont carry hurt forward, and i dont bear grudges (to her or anyone) its long since in the past, and am happy in life now.

however, i cant actively condone people doing it behind the backs of people they purport to love and cherish.

if you really honestly and truly love someone you would NEVER do anything, or allow anyone, to hurt them.

however, they are actually being the person that causes the most hurt.

the ones they trust with their heart, body and soul 'as long as they both shall live', trust them to be there, and do their best by each other, and yet this very intimate feeling between 2 people that are so deeply entrenched together they decide to spend their lives in each others company, is being thrown in the dirt and trodden on in the name of labido.

im sorry, but justify it by people having differing standards, or morals, or even different society objectives, but it all comes down to the same.

lack of respect for themselves, each other and everything that is held dear.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yet once upon a time you made those vows

And now you are a swinger

Whos the hypocrite?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't really see what vows have got to do with it, unless you are religious??? They are only words after all, its actions that count. I don't believe in marriage and never have, but my partner and I are totally honest with each other, which is why we ended up here in the first place lol.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"I don't really see what vows have got to do with it, unless you are religious??? They are only words after all, its actions that count. I don't believe in marriage and never have, but my partner and I are totally honest with each other, which is why we ended up here in the first place lol."

vows have everything to being honest with each other.

you make those vows to each other, above god.

its the honesty that makes a relationship work, far more than any other part of it.

without honesty, you have no relationship.

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

"Yet once upon a time you made those vows

And now you are a swinger

Whos the hypocrite?

swingers, dear.

plural, not the singular.

WE made a decision to embark on this 'hobby' together, and thats the thing.

IF mr/mrs 'single' had talked it over with OH, and they had said 'ah no, i have no interest, but you go ahead' then this discussion would be moot.

vows are promises.

i have made promises to Em and she to me, and neither of us have broken those promises.

like i said, our consciences are clear.

is everyones?

if you have to keep something a secret, from your partner, you know its wrong, end of!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yet once upon a time you made those vows

And now you are a swinger

Whos the hypocrite?

swingers, dear.

plural, not the singular.

WE made a decision to embark on this 'hobby' together, and thats the thing.

IF mr/mrs 'single' had talked it over with OH, and they had said 'ah no, i have no interest, but you go ahead' then this discussion would be moot.

vows are promises.

i have made promises to Em and she to me, and neither of us have broken those promises.

like i said, our consciences are clear.

is everyones?

if you have to keep something a secret, from your partner, you know its wrong, end of!"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's very true if people aren't happy they should tell parnter straight up I had first hand experince from being cheat on in past

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Yet once upon a time you made those vows

And now you are a swinger

Whos the hypocrite?

swingers, dear.

plural, not the singular.

WE made a decision to embark on this 'hobby' together, and thats the thing.

IF mr/mrs 'single' had talked it over with OH, and they had said 'ah no, i have no interest, but you go ahead' then this discussion would be moot.

vows are promises.

i have made promises to Em and she to me, and neither of us have broken those promises.

like i said, our consciences are clear.

is everyones?

if you have to keep something a secret, from your partner, you know its wrong, end of!"

Lovedup I love the way you and people like you rationalise things .

You get very selective about facts to get them to suit your opinion and then you feel entitled to start lecturing others about you are right and they are wrong .

Take your logic above as a simple example . You made your vows to ems and your conscience is clear . Therefore you can question others you know nothing about .

You do kinda forget your vows to your first wife of course .

Now everyone understands why you do. And good luck to you . Aren't you so lucky to have met someone else. most people including me would say fair dues and best of luck to you both.

The problem I have is your sense of entitlement to judge and accuse others on a set of criteria you yourself can't live by .

And in fairness some fella in sandals said this years ago . Can't remember his name right now but it was

"let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

jeez folks calm down ! fk i am so glad i,m single these days much better life lol