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Updated c19 measures

By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I'm hearing on the radio that the cabinet are meeting today to discuss limiting indoor gatherings to 6 from 3 households. Will this mean clubs and social events will need to stop again?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Seems so.. Futile considering what's happening or rather not happening at airports

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

The panic has set in now with the rise in cases and

Schools opening.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"The panic has set in now with the rise in cases and

Schools opening. "

Yeah the rise in cases, alongside the elevated risk from the schools going back is a worry. We were at 4 cases per 100,000, we are now at 20something. I feel for the businesses that will be effected and those who will be out of work.

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By *edro50Man over a year ago

enniskillen

Yeah I would say the other thing that will be done is the high risk categories will be shielding again!

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By *j47Man over a year ago

limerick

We have to learn to manage it s here for the long haul if that means work and home limiting any social activities that is what we have to do. Even with the rise in cases the amount of hospitalisations isn't massively increasing and those in need of ICU is remaining small

Keeping numbers low allows for more to reopen and more economic activity which promotes the economy keeping us utall with out head above water and for those that need help we can provide it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A balance needs to be struck between keeping outbreaks to a minimum and keeping the economy going. We're in for the long haul unless an effective vaccine becomes widely available.

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By *ofusplusCouple over a year ago

Limerick

"A balance needs to be struck between keeping outbreaks to a minimum and keeping the economy going. We're in for the long haul unless an effective vaccine becomes widely available."

I agree, plus many of the new cases are asymptomatic and hospitalisations/ICU admissions haven't really gone up. Surely this is the important stat now, considering that the economy really needs to reopen?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A balance needs to be struck between keeping outbreaks to a minimum and keeping the economy going. We're in for the long haul unless an effective vaccine becomes widely available.

Well, it's currently affecting mostly younger people, but if it continues to spread at the current rate it will inevitably be spread to older people and hospital admissions and deaths will result.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

There was 8 I think in ICU as of yesterday. Have people become lax? i think so but in the same breath its probably natural. The way we lived for the bones of 4 months is not normal and people have started to get some normality and enjoyment back in their lives. Wash the hands and mask up in shops are 2 easy things to follow. Alot of the cluster outbreaks are food plant factory related and this is a major concern. Is it been started by non nationals completely going against advice? The virus thrives in a meat plant environment. The social aspect in all of this, it's a human trait to interact and socialise. To keep the head space mentally strong its something humans do naturally. Gatherings of big numbers indoors, I don't agree with but people meeting outdoors for a drink spread around a table or people attending a gaa ground 2 a match, I see nothing wrong with. I passed 2 playgrounds the other day, thronged with people, beaches packed yet they only allow 200 at big gaa grounds for games where u can easily SD more? Pure lunacy. The government's decision making is frustrating the life out of people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It'll be some shit show if there's an issue with schools going back in a few weeks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It'll be some shit show if there's an issue with schools going back in a few weeks

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"It'll be some shit show if there's an issue with schools going back in a few weeks"
I wouldnt be surprised if they put more measures in place to try and make sure schools return in 2 weeks. Add more restrictions from a cabinet meeting today. I hope not but it wouldnt surprise me.

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"There was 8 I think in ICU as of yesterday. Have people become lax? i think so but in the same breath its probably natural. The way we lived for the bones of 4 months is not normal and people have started to get some normality and enjoyment back in their lives. Wash the hands and mask up in shops are 2 easy things to follow. Alot of the cluster outbreaks are food plant factory related and this is a major concern. Is it been started by non nationals completely going against advice? The virus thrives in a meat plant environment. The social aspect in all of this, it's a human trait to interact and socialise. To keep the head space mentally strong its something humans do naturally. Gatherings of big numbers indoors, I don't agree with but people meeting outdoors for a drink spread around a table or people attending a gaa ground 2 a match, I see nothing wrong with. I passed 2 playgrounds the other day, thronged with people, beaches packed yet they only allow 200 at big gaa grounds for games where u can easily SD more? Pure lunacy. The government's decision making is frustrating the life out of people. "

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

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at a professional soccer match with thousands? No comparison. Outdoor attendance was supposed to be increased to 500 here twice and stkpped. You're not into gaa so I wouldnt expect you to understand. You could easily Sd 500 people in any gaa ground yet beaches and kids playgrounds are packed. You would laugh if it wasnt making people so mad how farcical the ruling is.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

Getting more than 200 people in and out of a sports ground at the start and end of a match while enforcing social distancing seems unlikely no?

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

A beach is a public space. It's a different thing

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Getting more than 200 people in and out of a sports ground at the start and end of a match while enforcing social distancing seems unlikely no? "
would be simple. People are going bananas over it. Was at a match the other day. One side of the field, massive area, nobody there, completely empty. Could of easily SD 150 or so people there. People go to local club gaa games, leave after the match, into their car and home. 500 in an outdoor gaa venue is not many at all.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"A beach is a public space. It's a different thing "
its an outdoor setting where hundreds are congregating on top of one another.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Sums it up.

"A lot of the so-called spectators in the 200 allowed at GAA games are the subs from both teams. Yet playgrounds are full. Shopping centres are full. Beaches are full. And if you ask me, kids in playgrounds are worse than any nightclub. They're licking the same things, picking up the same stones, coming down the same slide, the same swing. Every kid is touching everything in that playground. Two weeks ago, we were down in Kinsale and came back by a farm where the kids can pet the animals and play on slides and swings. And 800 people went through their doors that Saturday. They were absolutely packed. Yet GAA stadia are empty. To me, the GAA and a pint form a huge part of many people's lives and both are virtually non-existent for a lot of people in rural Ireland today. You might have the stereotypical older, bachelor man whose local pub is closed and he may not have the means or the know-how to watch GAA games online. He's cocooned for months already. What social outlet does he have? What impact is this having on his mental health?"

-Lar Corbett

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its scary the amount of people that came off the train in Killarney yesterday. All with suitcases heading to hotels, b&bs and holiday lets. Think we wont be able to avoid another lockdown at this rate. The only good thing is that around 5% of the new covid cases needed to be ventilated.

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

" I passed 2 playgrounds the other day, thronged with people, beaches packed yet they only allow 200 at big gaa grounds for games where u can easily SD more? Pure lunacy. The government's decision making is frustrating the life out of people.

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

at a professional soccer match with thousands? No comparison. Outdoor attendance was supposed to be increased to 500 here twice and skipped. You're not into gaa so I wouldnt expect you to understand. You could easily Sd 500 people in any gaa ground yet beaches and kids playgrounds are packed. You would laugh if it wasnt making people so mad how farcical the ruling is. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

WE should have adpoted the same model as New Zealand............ controlled & back to normal living

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. "
I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"WE should have adpoted the same model as New Zealand............ controlled & back to normal living"
new Zealand is an exception to the rule. Stand alone island with nearest country hours away. Total different environment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

By and large, alcohol, its effects and people congregating together to consume alcohol is and will be the key contributor to community spread ongoing.

It's endemic in our society, always has been. Everything revolves around pub, pint and piss up... including the GAA

Throw in an inbred indisciplined nature to find a way around every regulation, and well you can work out the rest.

I'm not anti alcohol btw, I have the occasional tipple, it's just we are experts in it's misuse

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"By and large, alcohol, its effects and people congregating together to consume alcohol is and will be the key contributor to community spread ongoing.

It's endemic in our society, always has been. Everything revolves around pub, pint and piss up... including the GAA

Throw in an inbred indisciplined nature to find a way around every regulation, and well you can work out the rest.

I'm not anti alcohol btw, I have the occasional tipple, it's just we are experts in it's misuse

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with pubs closed there is no alcohol consumption before gaa games. There is very little alcohol consumed before club games anyway. People just go and bring the kids to see their local club team playing. Watch game and home after.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. "
i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids.

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By *og-ManMan over a year ago

somewhere

I'd love to see the crowds back at GAA matches

I dont follow any team in particular but understand the attachment of the community towards their team

The big problem is not the fans making their way into the stadium....its what they do when they are leaving that causes all the problems....people just ignore instructions

And then argue with the staff trying to direct them

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I'd love to see the crowds back at GAA matches

I dont follow any team in particular but understand the attachment of the community towards their team

The big problem is not the fans making their way into the stadium....its what they do when they are leaving that causes all the problems....people just ignore instructions

And then argue with the staff trying to direct them

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500 between supporters players mentors and officials is not a big number in gaa grounds. It's not like thousands at an inter county game.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

I've lived in sports obsessed cities in the UK including the small city of Sunderland where they pull in AVERAGE attendances of 30k. They aren't even playing championship football. GAA doesn't get anything like that. Why the poor attendance if its so vitally important?

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. "
I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. "
i think your wrong on that one

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By *og-ManMan over a year ago

somewhere

"I'd love to see the crowds back at GAA matches

I dont follow any team in particular but understand the attachment of the community towards their team

The big problem is not the fans making their way into the stadium....its what they do when they are leaving that causes all the problems....people just ignore instructions

And then argue with the staff trying to direct them

500 between supporters players mentors and officials is not a big number in gaa grounds. It's not like thousands at an inter county game. "

I understand that and know they can be spaced out equally across the stadium

On the way in the crowd social distance at the gates....on the way out they crowd the gates with no social distance....thats the hot spot they're afraid of

From experience it was a nightmare trying to get people out of stadiums safely in the old days

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've lived in sports obsessed cities in the UK including the small city of Sunderland where they pull in AVERAGE attendances of 30k. They aren't even playing championship football. GAA doesn't get anything like that. Why the poor attendance if its so vitally important?"

Because apparently the needs of GAA supporters trump public health issues, silly

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one "
I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Because apparently the needs of GAA supporters trump public health issues, silly"
nobody said that either.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. "
leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I'd love to see the crowds back at GAA matches

I dont follow any team in particular but understand the attachment of the community towards their team

The big problem is not the fans making their way into the stadium....its what they do when they are leaving that causes all the problems....people just ignore instructions

And then argue with the staff trying to direct them

500 between supporters players mentors and officials is not a big number in gaa grounds. It's not like thousands at an inter county game.

I understand that and know they can be spaced out equally across the stadium

On the way in the crowd social distance at the gates....on the way out they crowd the gates with no social distance....thats the hot spot they're afraid of

From experience it was a nightmare trying to get people out of stadiums safely in the old days "
that's with thousands In attendance. Thats not there at club games. I think you're mistaking club and IC. People at club games just leave. Everyone's walking to their cars, not all stopped huddled on top of each other at the gate.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

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its an exam but way to much pressure is put on some teens because of it. With some, it's like if you dont do well in your leaving, your life is over. It's not. Plenty of other options out there and plenty of examples of people doing fine after it.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

its an exam but way to much pressure is put on some teens because of it. With some, it's like if you dont do well in your leaving, your life is over. It's not. Plenty of other options out there and plenty of examples of people doing fine after it. "
plenty people will do fine without gaa many examples of people doing fine without it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

So why act as if not being able to attend matches is a big deal? Plenty of people doing fine without ever going to one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Snap lol

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By *aid backMan over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

The start of the problem was the government speeding up the roadmap to lifting restrictions. They should have stuck to the original plan.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The start of the problem was the government speeding up the roadmap to lifting restrictions. They should have stuck to the original plan."

Agreed, it was done too quickly, the effect of each easing should have been observed before progressing. Unfortunately though, the government is caught between a rock and a hard place

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By *ootykMan over a year ago

lurgan

Fear is a control mechanism . Wake up people if you tolerate this then you're children will be next as the song goes ...get out of the darkness and into the light be positive don't consume the bullshit turn off the news for good

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

So why act as if not being able to attend matches is a big deal? Plenty of people doing fine without ever going to one"
I'm talking about the lunacy of some of the governments decisions. As I said, read lar corbetts comment I put up above. Sums it up to a tee.

Letmebeyourfantasy I'm guessing by your comment you think the leaving is the be all and end all?.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"The start of the problem was the government speeding up the roadmap to lifting restrictions. They should have stuck to the original plan."
reason for that is because we were flying but the more opens, the less restrictions, the more of a spread but it has to be said where the spread is coming from. Alot in meat plants. Loads of foreign nationals working there, living on top of one another in houses, sharing the same beds, shopping together etc. In a way I feel sorry for them as probably on low pay and feel they have to go in 2 work even with symptoms.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

What I'm hitting at is people need social outlets (not a tonne of alcohol) and enjoyment in life. It's part and parcel of a normal human trait. That's what causing these mental health scenarios like that doctor in cork was on about. Its not normal to live secluded lives. I did it for the bones of 4 months but if had to do it any longer I'd openly admit, I would have struggled.

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By *edVelveteenCouple over a year ago

Heaven in the Midlands

"WE should have adpoted the same model as New Zealand............ controlled & back to normal livingnew Zealand is an exception to the rule. Stand alone island with nearest country hours away. Total different environment. "

I do believe their economy is suffering as much as anyone's tho because they have isolated themselves with no import/export.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

I do believe their economy is suffering as much as anyone's tho because they have isolated themselves with no import/export.

"
yes. I read that somewhere.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"I don't understand the attachment to GAA to be fair, which is probably the reason why I think 200 people attending a sports event sounds like an unecessary risk.

I agree people crowding onto a beach is ridiculous and should be controlled also. Overcrowded beaches should be closed. At least public places don't have a defined start and finish time so aren't all coming and going at once. gaa is a huge part of alot of peoples lives in ireland. They could be heavily associated with a club. The post I put up by lar Corbett sums it up to a tee. I read about article yesterday. GP in cork has had 40 cases of mental health issues, all covid related in last few weeks and he said it's going to increase. Mental health in all this is huge. while I agree gaa is a huge part its not something that is necessary needed, getting the kids back to school and employers back is far more important than gaa.... gaa is a social activity .that's my whole point. Social outlets are huge in peoples lives. People went months throughout lockdown without social outlets, no enjoyment while working away. Work is a necessity, its not an enjoyment. Even though school is a nessessity, I dont know how you're going to stop the spread when it reopens. 90% of school is indoors. i can't see the schools opening for too long and I hope I'm proven wrong. Kids are suffering mentally during covid they been out the longest 6 months.... while social activities are not happening they can pick up where they left off education can't be put off where leaving yr and junior is concerned the clock is ticking and that causes more stress to these kids. I'd say alot of teenagers coukdnt give a fuck about exams, they just want some routine and normality back and meeting their friends again. i think your wrong on that one I'm not because I interact with them regularly. Junior cert exams mean nothing at the end of the day anyway. leaving cert does and it means a great deal.... junior cert maybe not as much but leaving does fact

So why act as if not being able to attend matches is a big deal? Plenty of people doing fine without ever going to oneI'm talking about the lunacy of some of the governments decisions. As I said, read lar corbetts comment I put up above. Sums it up to a tee.

Letmebeyourfantasy I'm guessing by your comment you think the leaving is the be all and end all?. "
no your wrong with that I dont think its that but don't mean a big majority of kids don't take it seriously you obviously don't but you can't generalise saying all kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What I don’t understand is that schools in 2 weeks time are allowed 25 ppl in a classroom but in a house with different rooms, 6 is the max?

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By *oghunter33Woman over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other. "

Of course you can fetch corona in an outdoor setting. If not we would have openair festivals, concerts and sport events. Anyhow research has shown that when we breathe heavily, sing and shout a social distance of 2m isn't sufficient. And as others mentioned the logistics to get people in and out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I'm hitting at is people need social outlets (not a tonne of alcohol) and enjoyment in life. It's part and parcel of a normal human trait. That's what causing these mental health scenarios like that doctor in cork was on about. Its not normal to live secluded lives. I did it for the bones of 4 months but if had to do it any longer I'd openly admit, I would have struggled. "

I agree with you, it's just that we can't seem to do that by and large without alcohol. Social life here revolves around it. Ask anyone who doesn't drink about how difficult it is to socialise. I do believe it's improving and there is a greater swing towards a more healthy approach to alcohol and social life but the spread will start with those in the house parties locked out of their skulls.

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other.

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By *og-ManMan over a year ago

somewhere

Just to go over a few points made without repeating

My son is going into junior cert year....him and his mates dont give a fuck about it except now they think if this is here forever...no leaving cert so continuous assessment including the junior cert

Hes waking up to that fact

My eldest couple both went to college and are in decent jobs which have nothing to do with what they studied....I think for some people it gives them a discipline to help them in work .

Yes the leaving cert is pushed as the biggest thing that will change your life in fairness and I hate it.

Looking forward to seeing all the private schools that charge 7K boasting on results day how their pupils did when they were closed

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

L"
when i say people need "enjoyment" and "social outlets", I'm talking about training kids in sport, matches with kids, going to games themselves, etc etc. There is more outlets, I just named a couple.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

Lwhen i say people need "enjoyment" and "social outlets", I'm talking about training kids in sport, matches with kids, going to games themselves, etc etc. There is more outlets, I just named a couple.unfortunately until a virus is a available the enjoyment we once had will not happen that covers everything even the gaa ...... "
I presume you ment until a vaccine is available. I have a relation, a doctor who tells me there might never be a vaccine and this is something we have to live with.

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By *ohng69Man over a year ago

athenry

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other.

Also to your Lar Corbett piece, I found it uncomfortable to read, trying to denigrate small kids and activities around them to make GAA events look better. Besides I haven't heard yet of a superspreader playground event. I havnt heard yet of a superspreader gaa setting event either. The list rumbles on. What he says in his piece makes 100 % sense. "
Lar Corbett is a well known Gaa player and publican who I suspect has an agenda in writing that piece

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

Lwhen i say people need "enjoyment" and "social outlets", I'm talking about training kids in sport, matches with kids, going to games themselves, etc etc. There is more outlets, I just named a couple.unfortunately until a virus is a available the enjoyment we once had will not happen that covers everything even the gaa ...... I presume you ment until a vaccine is available. I have a relation, a doctor who tells me there might never be a vaccine and this is something we have to live with. "
then we will have too time will tell.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

There have already been sex parties of 20 or so people from here, it's in the veris. The virus will prevail in the community.

Lwhen i say people need "enjoyment" and "social outlets", I'm talking about training kids in sport, matches with kids, going to games themselves, etc etc. There is more outlets, I just named a couple.unfortunately until a virus is a available the enjoyment we once had will not happen that covers everything even the gaa ...... I presume you ment until a vaccine is available. I have a relation, a doctor who tells me there might never be a vaccine and this is something we have to live with. then we will have too time will tell. "
live with the virus while continuing our lives.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other.

Also to your Lar Corbett piece, I found it uncomfortable to read, trying to denigrate small kids and activities around them to make GAA events look better. Besides I haven't heard yet of a superspreader playground event. I havnt heard yet of a superspreader gaa setting event either. The list rumbles on. What he says in his piece makes 100 % sense. Lar Corbett is a well known Gaa player and publican who I suspect has an agenda in writing that piece "
he could do but also makes complete sense. I have seen publicans online with the slogan "support not sumpathy". The way they're been treated is disgraceful but thats a separate issue.

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By *etscum2Man over a year ago

dublin

In view of the way the communal living associatedin the meat industry has caused such a spread of Covid. Should the Government not outlaw the"Designer Tenements" proposed by greedy developers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

at a professional soccer match with thousands? No comparison. Outdoor attendance was supposed to be increased to 500 here twice and stkpped. You're not into gaa so I wouldnt expect you to understand. You could easily Sd 500 people in any gaa ground yet beaches and kids playgrounds are packed. You would laugh if it wasnt making people so mad how farcical the ruling is. "

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

There's hardly any playground that accommodates 200 kids. So it's not really comparable. More importantly the difference is that people shout, sing and chant at sport matches, all of which spirals the virus through the air. I'm not on about 200 at playgrounds. Read the post I have just put up. People cough spit to clear their throat, shout at teammates during a match, breath heavily but games still go on. You might ask why? Because there is little or no chance catching it in an outdoor setting. I also said you could easily fit 400 or 500 in a ground with SD present. They're not on top of each other.

Also to your Lar Corbett piece, I found it uncomfortable to read, trying to denigrate small kids and activities around them to make GAA events look better. Besides I haven't heard yet of a superspreader playground event. I havnt heard yet of a superspreader gaa setting event either. The list rumbles on. What he says in his piece makes 100 % sense. Lar Corbett is a well known Gaa player and publican who I suspect has an agenda in writing that piece he could do but also makes complete sense. I have seen publicans online with the slogan "support not sumpathy". The way they're been treated is disgraceful but thats a separate issue."

Everyone knows Larry Corbett is an utter gobshit

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary..."
that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

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By *ofusplusCouple over a year ago

Limerick

We can complain all we like but one thing's for sure - the priority now is to safely open the schools in 2 weeks time and KEEP them open. So apart from freeing the 'Midlands Three' next Monday, no other restrictions are going to be lifted until at least October. We need to be patient for a little bit longer i'm afraid

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"We can complain all we like but one thing's for sure - the priority now is to safely open the schools in 2 weeks time and KEEP them open. So apart from freeing the 'Midlands Three' next Monday, no other restrictions are going to be lifted until at least October. We need to be patient for a little bit longer i'm afraid

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do you know when it's ok to have sex again?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its scary the amount of people that came off the train in Killarney yesterday. All with suitcases heading to hotels, b&bs and holiday lets. Think we wont be able to avoid another lockdown at this rate. The only good thing is that around 5% of the new covid cases needed to be ventilated.people with weeks are holidaying in Ireland. Do u think that should stop?"
I know what you are saying , but there has to be a risk with all this movement.

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By *ofusplusCouple over a year ago

Limerick

do you know when it's ok to have sex again?

I sure do - here you go

https://www.sexualwellbeing.ie/sexual-health/sex-and-coronavirus/sex-and-coronavirus-covid-19-.html

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Its scary the amount of people that came off the train in Killarney yesterday. All with suitcases heading to hotels, b&bs and holiday lets. Think we wont be able to avoid another lockdown at this rate. The only good thing is that around 5% of the new covid cases needed to be ventilated.people with weeks are holidaying in Ireland. Do u think that should stop?I know what you are saying , but there has to be a risk with all this movement. "
applies to everything pal but people are trying to get on with their lives in some normality. We cant live under a rock forever.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

do you know when it's ok to have sex again?

I sure do - here you go

https://www.sexualwellbeing.ie/sexual-health/sex-and-coronavirus/sex-and-coronavirus-covid-19-.html"
one point, consider masturbating. If I do that much more, my willy will fall off.

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By *ysteryman2009Man over a year ago

Ireland

Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

More GAA players and clubs are now effected by COVID, so is soccer. The correct thing is to suspend all these till 2021 unless a vaccine for safety reasons. Posts on Facebook last night of a GAA match in Co Down, absolutely no social distancing, that makes hay of the argument to increase numbers as the clowns will just ignore safety advice . The best way to effectively control these non-complying clowns is to shut these events down till prober control in place.

Priorty should be given to the kids and the reopening of scholls, sport can wait, if people are bored and need mental stimulation, you adapt , go for a walk or gardening

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By *ohng69Man over a year ago

athenry

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

Priorty should be given to the kids and the reopening of scholls, sport can wait, if people are bored and need mental stimulation, you adapt , go for a walk or gardening"
what an utter pile of shite. For mental stimulation and enjoyment, go gardening? People have had their lives turned upside down by covid and their social/enjoyment outlets taken away for months. They get some bit of enjoyment back which is a necessity in life and u want it stopped again?!. Kids are delighted going back to sport, meeting their friends etc and u want that stopped. There is very little covid cases caught in a gaa setting, be it training or a match. Listening to some people they want things back to the end of March/beginning of april. Life is not all about serious natured stuff, mental stimulation comes from enjoyment. Unfortunately we may never have a vaccine for covid and what do u do then?

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. "
when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. "
I see people on the beach over the last few weeks, playgrounds, out on the street, groups, all less then 2m apart. I wonder would the government consider mask wearing a necessity once u leave the house and let things continue?!

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

That's a good idea actually. Face masks always once your out of the house.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

"Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

Priorty should be given to the kids and the reopening of scholls, sport can wait, if people are bored and need mental stimulation, you adapt , go for a walk or gardeningwhat an utter pile of shite. For mental stimulation and enjoyment, go gardening? People have had their lives turned upside down by covid and their social/enjoyment outlets taken away for months. They get some bit of enjoyment back which is a necessity in life and u want it stopped again?!. Kids are delighted going back to sport, meeting their friends etc and u want that stopped. There is very little covid cases caught in a gaa setting, be it training or a match. Listening to some people they want things back to the end of March/beginning of april. Life is not all about serious natured stuff, mental stimulation comes from enjoyment. Unfortunately we may never have a vaccine for covid and what do u do then? "
we get it you love of gaa and yes many of you around. But there are things I enjoy which covid have put a halt on I've family in UK I can't see people even here are still not seeing loved ones which is causing more to mental health. Some people would argue saying seeing family matters more to mental health than social activities

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

Priorty should be given to the kids and the reopening of scholls, sport can wait, if people are bored and need mental stimulation, you adapt , go for a walk or gardeningwhat an utter pile of shite. For mental stimulation and enjoyment, go gardening? People have had their lives turned upside down by covid and their social/enjoyment outlets taken away for months. They get some bit of enjoyment back which is a necessity in life and u want it stopped again?!. Kids are delighted going back to sport, meeting their friends etc and u want that stopped. There is very little covid cases caught in a gaa setting, be it training or a match. Listening to some people they want things back to the end of March/beginning of april. Life is not all about serious natured stuff, mental stimulation comes from enjoyment. Unfortunately we may never have a vaccine for covid and what do u do then? we get it you love of gaa and yes many of you around. But there are things I enjoy which covid have put a halt on I've family in UK I can't see people even here are still not seeing loved ones which is causing more to mental health. Some people would argue saying seeing family matters more to mental health than social activities

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the stop on seeing family is gone unless its reintroduced. Of course u can see family who live in Ireland.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. I see people on the beach over the last few weeks, playgrounds, out on the street, groups, all less then 2m apart. I wonder would the government consider mask wearing a necessity once u leave the house and let things continue?!"
if you can't wear a mask where does that leave them...masks don't stop the virus

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

To be honest going to a sports ground to support team sports should be WAY WAY down the priority list. Considering the dwindling support at GAA matches before corvid19 it's hardly something that should be considered vital. There are way more important thing affected by this and we are getting bogged down. Id be more worried about jobs and businesses being able to keep the doors open.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. I see people on the beach over the last few weeks, playgrounds, out on the street, groups, all less then 2m apart. I wonder would the government consider mask wearing a necessity once u leave the house and let things continue?! if you can't wear a mask where does that leave them...masks don't stop the virus "
at the end of the day the only 90 odd % way of stopping this is live like a hermit and only go outside to shop for necessities like the way things were back end march onwards but people are not going to do that. They did it for months and anyone I spoke to were beginning to crack until the phased reopening came. For people who barely do anything or go anywhere, the covid situation doesnt really affect them.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"To be honest going to a sports ground to support team sports should be WAY WAY down the priority list. Considering the dwindling support at GAA matches before corvid19 it's hardly something that should be considered vital. There are way more important thing affected by this and we are getting bogged down. Id be more worried about jobs and businesses being able to keep the doors open. "
as I said numerous times already enjoyment and necessity are equally important in life. Jobs businesses are necessities. Most businesses are back open besides pubs but they're not enjoyments. People need outlets and something to look forward to in life also.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

GAA is not a prerequisite for enjoyment. That's just silly.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"GAA is not a prerequisite for enjoyment. That's just silly. "
its a huge huge enjoyment for alot of people. A huge part of many peoples weekly lives.

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By *etmebeurfantasyWoman over a year ago

My town

its not gonna happen anytime soon what your wanting op you may get used to... watch it tv is your best option and rewinds of it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd love if we used this as an opportunity to disband the GAA entirely. Have Croke Park dedicated solely for Garth Brook concerts.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd love if we used this as an opportunity to disband the GAA entirely. Have Croke Park dedicated solely for Garth Brook concerts."
he should be ran out of it.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all.

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By *og-ManMan over a year ago

somewhere

I'd love if we used this as an opportunity to disband the GAA entirely. Have Croke Park dedicated solely for Garth Brook concerts."

Ya can fuck right off with that one

It was hard enought trying to control 80,000 mickey bubble fans without trying to control 80,000 culchies wearing cowboy boots,stetsons and pink feather boas

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all. "
so you know all people involved in gaa clubs around the whole country? The love they have for their club, the commitment they give, the matches they go too etc?

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

I'd love if we used this as an opportunity to disband the GAA entirely. Have Croke Park dedicated solely for Garth Brook concerts.

Ya can fuck right off with that one

It was hard enought trying to control 80,000 mickey bubble fans without trying to control 80,000 culchies wearing cowboy boots,stetsons and pink feather boas "
shouldn't be left near croke park.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all. so you know all people involved in gaa clubs around the whole country? The love they have for their club, the commitment they give, the matches they go too etc? "

If they love watching so do much then why were the numbers dwindling before this all happened? The attendance is woeful. And yet now its VITAL. Total nonsense.

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By *og-ManMan over a year ago

somewhere

I'd love if we used this as an opportunity to disband the GAA entirely. Have Croke Park dedicated solely for Garth Brook concerts.

Ya can fuck right off with that one

It was hard enought trying to control 80,000 mickey bubble fans without trying to control 80,000 culchies wearing cowboy boots,stetsons and pink feather boas shouldn't be left near croke park."

Except they need the money

and anyone that can fill it is allowed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Was a major concern about nursing homes before meat plants or are they just forgotten about and we listen to the news n just attack meat plants and never ever judge the boat and plane travelers

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By *ohng69Man over a year ago

athenry

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all. "
I don't think you understand how covid is being spread if you think you can only get it from opposition supporters

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all. so you know all people involved in gaa clubs around the whole country? The love they have for their club, the commitment they give, the matches they go too etc?

If they love watching so do much then why were the numbers dwindling before this all happened? The attendance is woeful. And yet now its VITAL. Total nonsense. "
you make me laugh. You dont get the figures on whose attending local club games around the country. You're talking out of your arse.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all. I don't think you understand how covid is being spread if you think you can only get it from opposition supporters

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you can get covid from anyone. I tell ya what u should do. Hibernate under your bed and come out in summer 2021 when they might have a vaccine, good man.

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By *ornyfireCouple over a year ago

Middle Earth

We should be restricted to our own counties and if an outbreak lockdown that area. People need to cop on some footage from pubs in Dublin and Galway at the weekend is so wrong. Yet the older people can't have anything and for some watching a simple game of football or one or two pints would be like winning the lottery.

It's a bit like here we all are different stuff. I don't particularly like the "GAA" but the normality of training matches saved this house during the summer. Even just by putting structure to our today is Tues training tonight.

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By *ilthyNights OP Couple over a year ago

East / North, Cork

"In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all. so you know all people involved in gaa clubs around the whole country? The love they have for their club, the commitment they give, the matches they go too etc?

If they love watching so do much then why were the numbers dwindling before this all happened? The attendance is woeful. And yet now its VITAL. Total nonsense. you make me laugh. You dont get the figures on whose attending local club games around the country. You're talking out of your arse. "

Come back when you're filling your grounds and have a bit more relevance to most people. Until then it's really not a priority alongside jobs, schools, businesses, hospitals etc.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"In which case I feel incredibly sorry for the small number of people who attended GAA matches before corvid19 (and it IS a small number) who might be unable to go and will now have lost all ability to enjoy life at all. so you know all people involved in gaa clubs around the whole country? The love they have for their club, the commitment they give, the matches they go too etc?

Come back when you're filling your grounds and have a bit more relevance to most people. Until then it's really not a priority alongside jobs, schools, businesses, hospitals etc. "
I wont keep repeating. I have referenced that already. Good luck.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"We should be restricted to our own counties and if an outbreak lockdown that area. People need to cop on some footage from pubs in Dublin and Galway at the weekend is so wrong. Yet the older people can't have anything and for some watching a simple game of football or one or two pints would be like winning the lottery.

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By *he ChamberCouple over a year ago

Dublin/Midlands

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I think it's one big scam.

( It's not a personal attack on anyone's belief it's my humble evaluation of this circus)

Yes there is covid 19 no doubt

There is TB,HIV ,Swine flue to mention a few we are all fine living with them.

There is so much fake news every where it's hard to believe anything from anyone If our national broadcaster RTE told me it was raining I'd go out and check

bunch of cretins.

I also believe we will, well most of us will get it and be fine hard flue maybe even close to man flue.we all know how serious that one is ...many a survivor here I'd say

Friends of ours aunt in her 90s got covid 19 and recovered from it no bother to her

(I believe them as they are sound heads)

But that news doesn't sell media or feed the fear and control culture that is dominating most of us .

The 9 plus billion euro that the banana republic government have secured to rescue european Ireland is another saddle bag of debt for the good Irish people to pay back.being good europeans well do anything to be accepted...

It's everyman for himself ....

Stock up on the supplements and turn off RTE

Luther

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By *ysteryman2009Man over a year ago

Ireland

"Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

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By *ornyfireCouple over a year ago

Middle Earth

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Reality check, reading a lot of hype regarding GAA and sport here.

YOU ARE RANTING AND OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. As of this week alone several GAA clubs have suspended games, Dublin, Limerick,Carlow,Meath,Kildare plus more counties , these all had players with COVID19. These clubs played games against other clubs and their is a known knock on effect of COVID spreading. That is reality not your rant and self importance of getting your own way."
everyone knew when sport came back, there would be cases. You're living with the virus. All those clubs acted accordingly and some came back negative. The vast majority of clubs have had no cases. Whats your point?

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Yes it's killing my parents they can't go to bingo, cards my dad can't even go for a pint. They are they kind that would go for dinner and all this has made them really old and really afraid. When they were first allowed back into shops it took my mother weeks to be able to even though one of us would be with her trying gently to get her to go in. "
its awful. I know a few men living rurally and their social outlet is a few quiet pints and a chat with friends in the local. Gone on them. Yould feel sorry for people like that.

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By *ohng69Man over a year ago

athenry

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all. I don't think you understand how covid is being spread if you think you can only get it from opposition supporters

you can get covid from anyone. I tell ya what u should do. Hibernate under your bed and come out in summer 2021 when they might have a vaccine, good man. "
you're the one that said everything was ok at matches you were at as people were socially distanced from opposition supporters. I think you'll need to find a new hobby when more gaa games get called off

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all. I don't think you understand how covid is being spread if you think you can only get it from opposition supporters

you can get covid from anyone. I tell ya what u should do. Hibernate under your bed and come out in summer 2021 when they might have a vaccine, good man. you're the one that said everything was ok at matches you were at as people were socially distanced from opposition supporters. I think you'll need to find a new hobby when more gaa games get called off "
and the way you're talking u think nobody should be doing anything.

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By * la carteCouple over a year ago

Dublin

"Personally I think it's one big scam.

( It's not a personal attack on anyone's belief it's my humble evaluation of this circus)

Yes there is covid 19 no doubt

There is TB,HIV ,Swine flue to mention a few we are all fine living with them.

There is so much fake news every where it's hard to believe anything from anyone If our national broadcaster RTE told me it was raining I'd go out and check

bunch of cretins.

I also believe we will, well most of us will get it and be fine hard flue maybe even close to man flue.we all know how serious that one is ...many a survivor here I'd say

Friends of ours aunt in her 90s got covid 19 and recovered from it no bother to her

(I believe them as they are sound heads)

But that news doesn't sell media or feed the fear and control culture that is dominating most of us .

It's everyman for himself ....

Stock up on the supplements and turn off RTE

Luther

We all know there are people out there suffering - be it being ill with Covid 19, or watching/minding a loved one suffering, either at home, in isolation, in hospital or, God forbid, in ICU…We all know there are many other negative effects this disease has had on many, if not to say all – physically, emotionally, mentally, psychologically, financially or economically. I would doubt there is anyone out there who has not been hit one way or another.

Unfortunately, disease is a way of the world! And life, is life threatening!

And fear is definitely not a good advisor!

The long-term effects??? They may well have a massive impact on our basic human rights – freedom of speech, freedom of movement and freedom to decide what substances we put in our bodies.

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By *ysteryman2009Man over a year ago

Ireland

"I'm hearing on the radio that the cabinet are meeting today to discuss limiting indoor gatherings to 6 from 3 households. Will this mean clubs and social events will need to stop again? "

Your post is good, unfortunately, it is being taken over by certain ranters that want to ram their opinions down everyone's troats. That's pitiful.

As of today NPHET has announced small gatherings and curtailing movement for the elderly, That's is dreadful for families and the elderly. They now have to suffer because of noncompliance with safety advice. It's all because of stupid behavior by certain pubs as seen on videos lately, GAA sponsors in certain counties, their manufacturing business, staff rife with COVID which had 3 counties in lockdown. sports clubs, in general, adhere to the rules buts it is what their players do after that is the concern, ie house parties, no social distancing. The innocent suffer at the expense of selfish morons. The elderly and families who are now back restricted. It would be sensible to all to put a bigger effort into safety for families and elderly instead of ranting about GAA or sporting clubs being able to continue for this year. I assume all these people have families and elderly relatives that they should prioritize instead of getting hot and bothered about sporting events.

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By *ohng69Man over a year ago

athenry

All sporting events will take place behind closed doors, under measures being discussed by cabinet this afternoon.

RTÉ News understands that a decision has been made not to allow spectators at sporting fixtures

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Many points taken on board but the fact remains lar Corbett is still an utter gobshite

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By *r tayt2Man over a year ago

Trim

You don't understand

Every town and village have a GAA Club it is a big part of the community in a lot of places there are guys from 90 to 10 Yr old would die for there club no question it is unique

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By *he English OneMan over a year ago

west

Of course you can blame this action on such stupidity as what happened in that restaurant up in Dublin its dumbasses like that that's making things harder for us all every single one of them should be identified and fined the maximum amount disgraceful behaviour

The case about the schools yes it is very worrying but what are we supposed to do leave them home longer seriously damaging their education especially those with learning difficulties reopening the schools should be the main priority now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

New measures just announced to have all sporting events behind closed doors....more to follow apparently

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By *osmicGateMan over a year ago

louth

you may look out when the kids go back to school this thing is gonna explode altogether..this winter coming will kill many many people it hasn't even started yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The government obviously see it as unnecessary like the majority of us

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"New measures just announced to have all sporting events behind closed doors....more to follow apparently

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absolute madness. Outside sporting events are not the issue. People have no confidence in government or nephet and this enhances it even further. Were slowly going back to April's times.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Of course you can blame this action on such stupidity as what happened in that restaurant up in Dublin its dumbasses like that that's making things harder for us all every single one of them should be identified and fined the maximum amount disgraceful behaviour

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's why these measures been taken, to try and minimize risk, it's not hard to understand

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The government is closing sports off in an effort to look like they’re doing something useful.

The real issues are with meat and food production, a small number of house parties and the looking school start.

Sports and those gatherings around it have caused next to no issues and provide some distraction from the seriousness of life.

On one hand government says you can’t have anyone outside at a game and on the other they say hundreds of children should congregate in crowds all day every day. They contradict themselves and go for the low hanging fruit. The easy score.

As I saw someone put it it’s like cutting your hand and putting the plaster on your foot!

Pubs too were low hanging fruit.

To anyone who says GAA is insignificant or even those taking glee that people can’t go watch have a very poor reading of the temperature of the country and of the meaning and significance it gives to hundreds of thousands of people around the country. These are club games remember. And the crowds at them are very very small. They provide a social outlet, talking points, fresh air, meeting neighbours, a structure to the long dreary weeks-particularly in the rural setting where followers have no cafes, pubs or other social outlets. It’s very easy for some people here to sit and castigate and make assertions if you have some social structures in place.

Everything must be weighed up and balanced in terms of risk and reward. The risk in these sports gatherings is tiny and the reward is much more.

Now do the same for schools opening - risk is massive and I would say could possibly outweigh the long term reward. Unless they come up with a feasible infrastructure for return to learning environments

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*the looming school start

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By *he English OneMan over a year ago

west

Let's face it reopening anything during time is a risk but like I said we can't simply leave kids out of school until this all blows over

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

That's why these measures been taken, to try and minimize risk, it's not hard to understand"
u minimise risk and then u move forward again with cases rising. U cant stay with these restrictions forever. Sport is been scapegoated and lots of other things untouched when outdoor sporting events ain't the issue at all.

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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That's why these measures been taken, to try and minimize risk, it's not hard to understandu minimise risk and then u move forward again with cases rising. U cant stay with these restrictions forever. Sport is been scapegoated and lots of other things untouched when outdoor sporting events ain't the issue at all. "

Just on the GAA point. When the first restrictions were put in place a lot of clubs continued to train and weeks before they were given the green light to train in groups of four they with zero respect for public safety in Wicklow anyway, trained on local community pitches. In our town the senior team wear asked to move off private/housing estate lands. I was asked at one point if we could move our kids off a playing field so the 30+ players who had just pulled up could train, they were politely told where to go. F@*k all respect for the law locals or the health of club members. ICU numbers were still high at this point. I called the county board and made a formal complaint as did 17 other towns having to put up with the same across Wicklow. Not a single warning or sanction was issued. All this when our kids hadn't seen their grandparents for 10 weeks.

Two weeks ago they played their championship game Infront of about 800 according to a local gaurd. They had no power to stop it and it was a disaster because the county board and put nothing in place to limit the numbers or keep people safe on exit. No staggered entrance times or exit. If you need a pint to get by in life then you have bigger problems than covid. If you need to pack yourself into the turnstiles at your local club and pretend your club are following rules then you are the problem and the rest of us will pay a price at some point.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Last weekend a club member. In newbridge played a game after being told to get tested, played another game the next day. 36 families had to get tested and isolate and all because the GAA from day one said they would not sanction clubs or members for not following rules put in place to save lives"
that's fine but the vast majority have followed the rules. I'd love to see the overall covid numbers connected to a gaa setting. I bet they're tiny. Thurles in tipperary holds 50,000, yet 20 people cant go in and watch their club play but down the road in hayes hotel you can have food indoors and all the pints you want. Farcical decisions. Our ports and airports remain open for travellers from covid hit countries, beaches are packed with no SD, nothing is said. Playgrounds full, no sanitisining after each use of equipment. Same with amusement parks, nothing said. It looks to me that sport is been scapegoated. I wouldn't be surprised if sporting bodies pull the plug themselves after government announcement but I feel that's what NPHET and the government want.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Last weekend a club member. In newbridge played a game after being told to get tested, played another game the next day. 36 families had to get tested and isolate and all because the GAA from day one said they would not sanction clubs or members for not following rules put in place to save livesthat's fine but the vast majority have followed the rules. I'd love to see the overall covid numbers connected to a gaa setting. I bet they're tiny. Thurles in tipperary holds 50,000, yet 20 people cant go in and watch their club play but down the road in hayes hotel you can have food indoors and all the pints you want. Farcical decisions. Our ports and airports remain open for travellers from covid hit countries, beaches are packed with no SD, nothing is said. Playgrounds full, no sanitisining after each use of equipment. Same with amusement parks, nothing said. It looks to me that sport is been scapegoated. I wouldn't be surprised if sporting bodies pull the plug themselves after government announcement but I feel that's what NPHET and the government want. "
200

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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Last weekend a club member. In newbridge played a game after being told to get tested, played another game the next day. 36 families had to get tested and isolate and all because the GAA from day one said they would not sanction clubs or members for not following rules put in place to save livesthat's fine but the vast majority have followed the rules. I'd love to see the overall covid numbers connected to a gaa setting. I bet they're tiny. Thurles in tipperary holds 50,000, yet 20 people cant go in and watch their club play but down the road in hayes hotel you can have food indoors and all the pints you want. Farcical decisions. Our ports and airports remain open for travellers from covid hit countries, beaches are packed with no SD, nothing is said. Playgrounds full, no sanitisining after each use of equipment. Same with amusement parks, nothing said. It looks to me that sport is been scapegoated. I wouldn't be surprised if sporting bodies pull the plug themselves after government announcement but I feel that's what NPHET and the government want. 200"

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Last weekend a club member. In newbridge played a game after being told to get tested, played another game the next day. 36 families had to get tested and isolate and all because the GAA from day one said they would not sanction clubs or members for not following rules put in place to save livesthat's fine but the vast majority have followed the rules. I'd love to see the overall covid numbers connected to a gaa setting. I bet they're tiny. Thurles in tipperary holds 50,000, yet 20 people cant go in and watch their club play but down the road in hayes hotel you can have food indoors and all the pints you want. Farcical decisions. Our ports and airports remain open for travellers from covid hit countries, beaches are packed with no SD, nothing is said. Playgrounds full, no sanitisining after each use of equipment. Same with amusement parks, nothing said. It looks to me that sport is been scapegoated. I wouldn't be surprised if sporting bodies pull the plug themselves after government announcement but I feel that's what NPHET and the government want. 200

The GAA have proved time and time again they simply can't be trusted when it comes to public safety. Your local club must have played championship in the last 3 weeks. Did the do a head count at the gates and turn away ? Did them temp check ? Did they issue staggered entrance times for players their families or supporters ? . Zero point bringing Thurles into it. The GAA can't follow basic rules for small grounds nevermind county. "
one entrance one exit. There was no guidelines to temperature check going into a ground. Tickets are issued to those who can attend. No ticket no entry. Stewards telling u where to go when inside. Do we temp check going into supermarkets.? This is not a gaa thing. It's all sports. Sport is been scapegoated and many other problem areas left untouched.

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

50 can go to church, an indoor setting but 50 cant go into a spaced out gaa ground or soccer/rugby ground outdoors lol.

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By *edro50Man over a year ago

enniskillen

Does it really matter that much if sport, entertainment or other things get postponed when people are dying?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People are always dying. You need to address your point more specifically.

You talk about entertainment as of it doesn’t matter. How were you entertained during lockdown? By lots of musicians performing online for free.

Doesn’t matter to you if you have your safe job. Yea, entertainment doesn’t matter. Aye. Tel that to the thousands of people who will be out of their minds with anxiety at going broke, homeless, and jobless for the next year or two or however long.

Your unthought out statement is coming from a place of serious privilege and luxury

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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"50 can go to church, an indoor setting but 50 cant go into a spaced out gaa ground or soccer/rugby ground outdoors lol. "

I have more sense than to go into a church full stop. Can I ask if you know anyone who has died from covid or has been intubated

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have more sense than to go into a church full stop. Can I ask if you know anyone who has died from covid or has been intubated"

I do, but what’s your point? Should we all stop trying to live as safely and as measured and balanced as possible?

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By *ofusplusCouple over a year ago

Limerick

"50 can go to church, an indoor setting but 50 cant go into a spaced out gaa ground or soccer/rugby ground outdoors lol. "

From what i understand, all indoor events reduced to 6 people (not clear though), so the 50 is gone out the window, except for weddings.

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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I have more sense than to go into a church full stop. Can I ask if you know anyone who has died from covid or has been intubated

I do, but what’s your point? Should we all stop trying to live as safely and as measured and balanced as possible? "

Not at all. If you are religious then by all means go to church. My point is that some sections of society with try to do the best they can for the greater good as those advising us know far more than you or I and it doesn't take a genius to know the church going crowd are far more likely to follow government advice than the GAA. My distain for the church itself is an argument that has little to do with covid

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By *ork fellaMan over a year ago

Macroom

Is it just me or does it now seem like we have no real coersive plan and it's all a bit made up as we go? The way the Government are going we'll be back to phase two in no time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have more sense than to go into a church full stop. Can I ask if you know anyone who has died from covid or has been intubated

I do, but what’s your point? Should we all stop trying to live as safely and as measured and balanced as possible?

You have absolutely no evidence for that statement. In fact they could actually be quite a crossover

You seem to just have a problem in general with the GAA so any statement you make has no credibility of not backed up by any credible source or data.

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By *j47Man over a year ago

limerick

Read up on 'partita zero' that will give you an idea why there's a limit of 200.

I'm from a gaa background and have yet to see proper social distancing in place even at a match with a small amount of people.

The "come here and I tell ya" mentality quickly returns inside the gate.

Give the economy a chance instead increasing attendance numbers to gaa when its completely unnecessary...that's because in general, SD is out the window,in all facets. I was at a match the other day, coaching a team. Opposition coach came over to talk to me before the game, stood right next to me shoulder to shoulder. Do I blame him? Not at all. Why? Because it's the normal thing in mindset to do. It's not the norm when outdoors to think consistently how close you are to the next person but gaa grounds, stewarded properly, could imply SD no problem. The mental health of people is seriously in bother with less and less outlets for people to take part in. I keep saying it but for months all alot of people did was walked each day and watched tv. That's a struggle for a few months never mind going any longer. over last few weeks I have also regularly seen people jumping walls and using ladders to get into matches. if that's the case the match should be abandoned. So much for your argument that gaa fans will socially distance at matches if more of them are let in. when u go out the door each day, do you constantly think how close you are to every person you come in contact with? If you were to think of everything you should be doing consistently you would turn extremely paranoid. People at matches I have seen are all SD from the opposition team supporters. No issue at all. "

Yes I do and for u not to point out to the other team manager that he needs to step back and keep his distance was irresponsible and negligent on ur part u were part of another team looking after underage players and if they see u breaking guidelines what will they do

Its time to stand up and be counted we know by keeping our distance and hand washing wearing masks and keeping out number of contacts to a min we can lower the numbers

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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I have more sense than to go into a church full stop. Can I ask if you know anyone who has died from covid or has been intubated

I do, but what’s your point? Should we all stop trying to live as safely and as measured and balanced as possible?

You have absolutely no evidence for that statement. In fact they could actually be quite a crossover

You seem to just have a problem in general with the GAA so any statement you make has no credibility of not backed up by any credible source or data. "

Nope. I've been a member of my local club since I was 5. Love it. I spent 15 years stewarding in croker for free until they brought in private firms to take over. I've two sons playing.

"so any statement you make has no credibility of not backed up by any credible source or data" come on now. You can do better than that. How about a few suggestions as to what measures do work or what steps can help. All I've seen above is people essentially saying we don't like being told what to do regardless of the logic behind it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope. I've been a member of my local club since I was 5. Love it. I spent 15 years stewarding in croker for free until they brought in private firms to take over. I've two sons playing.

"so any statement you make has no credibility of not backed up by any credible source or data"

come on now. You can do better than that. How about a few suggestions as to what measures do work or what steps can help. All I've seen above is people essentially saying we don't like being told what to do regardless of the logic behind it"

Fair play on the volunteering and the involvement. You just came across as very against it. I still say you’ve no evidence suggesting church goers are more law abiding than GAA people. It’s anecdotal and simply a personal opinion and a very random one at that.

Do better than what? You’re the one making the claims about GAA flouting guidelines therefore the onus is on you to back it up, not me. Again same on the measures-it’s not up to me. And actually I posit that those measures currently in place work well. So how about that?

And on your logic issue. Point out to me the logic of not allowing 200 at a game that could hold a few thousand and easily distance everyone and expect completely crowded schools to return in a couple of weeks with no plan, no resources, and not enough time to make the necessary alterations. It’s an attitude of “outside and sparse numbers of spectators are highly risky but people have to be educated regardless of the risks”

Why is this happening? Because the government have to be seen to be doing something even when they know they’re on a daft path

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By *ysteryman2009Man over a year ago

Ireland

Karma has crept up on the sporting fraternity with the new restrictions, it's all caused by their lack of safety procedures, a prime example was the championship game in Down, no social distancing You can go to any club game and see similar two of the counties in lockdown are sponsored by meat companies with serious outbreaks of COVID amongst their staff. Both County boards have been seriously silent on the issue. Horse racing did the same to itself with Cheltenham, they are now behind closed doors, Its no surprise as to the new

restrictions.

The sad aspect of all of this is the unnecessary suffering of the elderly and families with the new restrictions.

Its now time for those reckless morons with no concept of health and safety and purely ignorant to the suffering of people who adhered to health and safety guidlines to cop on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What championship game in Down?

And so you’re saying that everyone involved in GAA is a moron?

Cheltenham was a ridiculous situation and shouldn’t have happened. But you’re conflating it with the GAA discussion and muddying the waters for effect

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By *rmrs1234Couple over a year ago

Waterford

well we just received the guideplan for our kids returning to school and i think ill be spending the next couple of weeks preparing for homeschooling

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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Nope. I've been a member of my local club since I was 5. Love it. I spent 15 years stewarding in croker for free until they brought in private firms to take over. I've two sons playing.

"so any statement you make has no credibility of not backed up by any credible source or data"

Why is this happening? Because the government have to be seen to be doing something even when they know they’re on a daft path

Simply put the government (rightly so) do not trust the GAA to ensure they follow SD guidelines. The GAA openly stated in the media back in late may early June that they would not sanction intercounty teams training against government advice but they said the public are should call them out instead. Couldn't make it up.

I don't have to prove the governments reasons behind this, the logic as has been stated is the bottleneck areas and points if contact. Smarter men and women than me decided that I don't entirely blame the GAA for this as grounds just aren't set up for it and locally anyway nothing has been put in place to stop the bottleneck coming into or exiting the grounds. It would be really easy to put a basic system in place like most work places have done but for some reason the GAA have not done this and it's a pity because we all want the game back up and running. Also there are plenty of smaller clubs and second pitches around the country that couldn't safely have 200, it would be extremely hard for clubs to make bespoke arrangements based on each pitch or side line area. Don't really see how the possible issues in schools or other areas gives cover to the GAA to go nuts

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one is using the schools to cover anything. You’re conflating two different issues.

The point is that the government are sending ridiculous mixed signals stopping attendances at games and forcing schools to go back into situations where it’s impossible to socially distance. And you want to tell me that that’s smarter than me? Haha aye! That’s being done for political reasons not for logic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

“Simply put the government (rightly so) do not trust the GAA to ensure they follow SD guidelines. The GAA openly stated in the media back in late may early June that they would not sanction intercounty teams training against government advice”

Source?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the logic as has been stated is the bottleneck areas and points if contact......... I don't entirely blame the GAA for this as grounds just aren't set up for it and locally anyway nothing has been put in place to stop the bottleneck coming into or exiting the grounds....

Also there are plenty of smaller clubs and second pitches around the country that couldn't safely have 200, it would be extremely hard for clubs to make bespoke arrangements based on each pitch or side line area”

A bottleneck with less than 200? Highly unlikely now come on. You’re just regurgitating nonsense you’re being fed.

Give me an example of a ground that couldn’t facilitate 200 at safe distance? Most people will aren’t with at least one other person. That’s max 100 groups/pairs of people. There’d be a miniscule number of grounds which couldn’t facilitate that if even there’s any that couldn’t. Therefore this talk of bespoke solutions is rendered pointless

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By *ysteryman2009Man over a year ago

Ireland

"What championship game in Down?

And so you’re saying that everyone involved in GAA is a moron?

Cheltenham was a ridiculous situation and shouldn’t have happened. But you’re conflating it with the GAA discussion and muddying the waters for effect "

Please read my post, it did not say all GAA, I was referring to sporting organizations, The GAA did themselves no favour with lack of health and safety protocols that have led to their games being behind closed doors, that is a terrible pity but it was self-inflicted.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What lack of health and safety measures led GAA games to be behind closed doors?

That doesn’t even make sense as Government have ruled thatall sporting events can have no fans in now.

Therefore to suggest that GAA games are now behind closed doors due to their lack of safety procedures is transparently and laughably wrong on your part.

It’s a broad government ruling to all sports and one that makes no sense and furthermore isn’t supported by any scientific evidence

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By *osmicGateMan over a year ago

louth

who cares about gaa..havent they been making a fortune out of amateur players for years..all this crying cause they losing money good enough for them greedy shower they are

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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"What lack of health and safety measures led GAA games to be behind closed doors?

That doesn’t even make sense as Government have ruled thatall sporting events can have no fans in now.

Therefore to suggest that GAA games are now behind closed doors due to their lack of safety procedures is transparently and laughably wrong on your part.

It’s a broad government ruling to all sports and one that makes no sense and furthermore isn’t supported by any scientific evidence "

You know something. You are right, I think we should hit government buildings in the morning and protest. All grounds open and unlimited supporters, I'll accept nothing less. I'll meet you at hueston station at 9am. I'll be the one wearing a Wicklow jersey

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What lack of health and safety measures led GAA games to be behind closed doors?

That doesn’t even make sense as Government have ruled thatall sporting events can have no fans in now.

Therefore to suggest that GAA games are now behind closed doors due to their lack of safety procedures is transparently and laughably wrong on your part.

It’s a broad government ruling to all sports and one that makes no sense and furthermore isn’t supported by any scientific evidence

Ah this is the route you go down when you’ve nothing left haha!! Right so

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who cares about gaa..havent they been making a fortune out of amateur players for years..all this crying cause they losing money good enough for them greedy shower they are

Good man. You fairly told them lol

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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"What lack of health and safety measures led GAA games to be behind closed doors?

That doesn’t even make sense as Government have ruled thatall sporting events can have no fans in now.

Therefore to suggest that GAA games are now behind closed doors due to their lack of safety procedures is transparently and laughably wrong on your part.

It’s a broad government ruling to all sports and one that makes no sense and furthermore isn’t supported by any scientific evidence

Ah this is the route you go down when you’ve nothing left haha!! Right so

In fairness I gave up when you blocked us for simply engaging in a conversation here. You blindly refuse to see the most basic reasoning behind measures put in place to halt the possible spread. It might not help but I've a feeling you would roar blue murder at government inaction when numbers rise. I've been at enough matches to know some people can't see past the club logo. Like talking to a wall

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What lack of health and safety measures led GAA games to be behind closed doors?

That doesn’t even make sense as Government have ruled thatall sporting events can have no fans in now.

Therefore to suggest that GAA games are now behind closed doors due to their lack of safety procedures is transparently and laughably wrong on your part.

It’s a broad government ruling to all sports and one that makes no sense and furthermore isn’t supported by any scientific evidence

Ah this is the route you go down when you’ve nothing left haha!! Right so

I blocked you when I had seen your initial wholly disparaging remarks about an entire organisation before I commented at all first. Because I saw we wouldn’t be on any way compatible.

You’re saying I don’t see last most basic reasoning and yet you haven’t managed to critique any of what I said. You make general replies whereas as I have responded to all of your points directly. You have failed to support the logic of closing off sporting events but forcing schools to go back in full attendance. Show me the logic of that please? Thanks

Hats your feeling really blue murder and simple projection to suit your own perception. The ability to discuss something and reason out stuff simply doesn’t seem to be your strong point. Any assertions you have made have not been supported with any evidence and you are simply repeating the same things over and over.

Please point me to any official sources where clusters have resulted from GAA? Not cases, because cases are expected everywhere, but clusters.

Your point about bottlenecks with 200 at a game is ridiculous and this craic of lots of grounds not being able to cater to 200 is clutching straws.

I’m not a blind GAA follower. I like watching it and at no point have I claimed that everything is perfect. Like everywhere else you get selfish people and idiots but that’s no different to any other sector and there is no scientific basis to close up grounds.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aplogies,

It wasn’t you I meant to block. So I’m sorry about that.

I stand by the rest of what I said though

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

Gaa to name one sporting organisation have come out tonight and requested a meeting with Ronan glynn and his health team to pinpoint how gaa games and 200 attending are causing these clusters, to show them evidence that the clusters have come from a gaa setting. They await a response.

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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Aplogies,

It wasn’t you I meant to block. So I’m sorry about that.

I stand by the rest of what I said though "

No worries on the blocking part. You are free to choose who you interact with. Also when you said I failed to back up any statement you completely brushed off the well documented press release from GAA head quarters in late may saying they would not sanction clubs or county players for breaking guidelines around groups training. Do you think that is a good example to set in the community ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No problem. I confused you with a few other people I blocked when I saw how petty they were towards a whole section of Irish society. So I unblocked and apologies for that.

I honestly haven’t seen or heard that so if you have a link I’ll happily check it out.

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By *kcoupleCouple over a year ago

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"No problem. I confused you with a few other people I blocked when I saw how petty they were towards a whole section of Irish society. So I unblocked and apologies for that.

I honestly haven’t seen or heard that so if you have a link I’ll happily check it out. "

https://www.the42.ie/gaa-sanctions-county-teams-training-5133866-Jun2020/

I'll have to leave you with that as I'm just finishing work. regardless of our strongly opposing views hopefully sometime soon this isn't something will will have to argue over. Peace out folks

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By *ontbesillywrapyourwillyMan over a year ago

Tipperary

"Gaa to name one sporting organisation have come out tonight and requested a meeting with Ronan glynn and his health team to pinpoint how gaa games and 200 attending are causing these clusters, to show them evidence that the clusters have come from a gaa setting. They await a response. "
the amount of frustration in my club tonight and on social media outlets is unreal. The main gripe with people Is they're targeting sporting outlets with no root to the cause and the biggest cause of clusters, meat plant factories go undetected. Beaches are still packed, playgrounds. Pubs can open until 11.30 and you can have your food and pints all u want. I see in MM speech hes targeting young people and house parties once more and said garga have extra power to police these. I'd like to see how they're going to do that.

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