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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
on the hill NordWest of |
Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky? |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky? "
I agree DH, don't understand the logic either 
I'm not in the industry but surely let the all pubs open there doors. |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
I agree DH, don't understand the logic either
I'm not in the industry but surely let the all pubs open there doors. "
People are sooo trigger happy with there phones. If they are not acting responsible, close them again? |
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Been honest about it social distance is never going to work in a pub people cant even keep there distance in a shop without having to be told to do so .i went to fairyhouse on sunday and was menthal even all the signs they had up its still made to diffrence to people i had to say to people to keep there distance and there reply back was i should have stayed at home if i wanted distance i didnt stay long there as it didnt feel safe to do so i still think a lot of people have got more relaxed about covid which is not a good idea as a lot more mixing together .i dont think it will ever get back to the way it was think this is the new normal for the moment anyway |
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"Been honest about it social distance is never going to work in a pub people cant even keep there distance in a shop without having to be told to do so .i went to fairyhouse on sunday and was menthal even all the signs they had up its still made to diffrence to people i had to say to people to keep there distance and there reply back was i should have stayed at home if i wanted distance i didnt stay long there as it didnt feel safe to do so i still think a lot of people have got more relaxed about covid which is not a good idea as a lot more mixing together .i dont think it will ever get back to the way it was think this is the new normal for the moment anyway "
Disappointing to hear about Fairyhouse and you're probably right, people loosing focus etc.
I still don't get the difference gastro and standard pub?? |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky? "
Is it not completely obvious??? The logic is to get all restaurants open. Food is a necessity, alcohol is not! The virus is not completely gone from the country, so having bars open is still too risky.
You are less likely to get scuttered and forget social distancing if you sit down and have a full meal. Also more likely to abide by social distancing if everyone has a reserved seat for food. The 9 euro limit prevents a pub selling a pack of Chrisps as food, and opening.
Remember bars were supposed to stay shut untill August initially. This is allowing chefs/waiters/floor staff/security/cleaners/delivery guys to come back a bit earlier.
Also, with the restricted opening hours and capacity, it wouldnt be economically viable to open up most small town bars yet, they would be opening up at a loss. This way bar staff can still get the covid payment, and not worried that they "need" to come back to secure a job, and loose their payment, even though their employer will only need them for very short hours. |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
Is it not completely obvious??? The logic is to get all restaurants open. Food is a necessity, alcohol is not! The virus is not completely gone from the country, so having bars open is still too risky.
You are less likely to get scuttered and forget social distancing if you sit down and have a full meal. Also more likely to abide by social distancing if everyone has a reserved seat for food. The 9 euro limit prevents a pub selling a pack of Chrisps as food, and opening.
Remember bars were supposed to stay shut untill August initially. This is allowing chefs/waiters/floor staff/security/cleaners/delivery guys to come back a bit earlier.
Also, with the restricted opening hours and capacity, it wouldnt be economically viable to open up most small town bars yet, they would be opening up at a loss. This way bar staff can still get the covid payment, and not worried that they "need" to come back to secure a job, and loose their payment, even though their employer will only need them for very short hours."
Seems obvious to me too, alcohol only and social distancing will be out the window very quickly, it has to be in the last restrictions to go. A pub which is also a restaurant is as entitled to open as a restaurant serving alcohol, same rules applied. |
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U will never have the virus completely gone more then likely plus may never have a vaccine. Get out there and learn to live with it could very well be the outcome. SD is going out the window with alot but I'm not surprised. SD doesn't come naturally 2 people. I live in co tipp. There hasn't been one case of covid in tipp in god knows how long. If a second wave comes, u wont see a full lockdown, more like sections closed off for eg, areas where the virus is etc. Country cannot afford a full lockdown again. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
on the hill NordWest of |
"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
Is it not completely obvious??? The logic is to get all restaurants open. Food is a necessity, alcohol is not! The virus is not completely gone from the country, so having bars open is still too risky.
You are less likely to get scuttered and forget social distancing if you sit down and have a full meal. Also more likely to abide by social distancing if everyone has a reserved seat for food. The 9 euro limit prevents a pub selling a pack of Chrisps as food, and opening.
Remember bars were supposed to stay shut untill August initially. This is allowing chefs/waiters/floor staff/security/cleaners/delivery guys to come back a bit earlier.
Also, with the restricted opening hours and capacity, it wouldnt be economically viable to open up most small town bars yet, they would be opening up at a loss. This way bar staff can still get the covid payment, and not worried that they "need" to come back to secure a job, and loose their payment, even though their employer will only need them for very short hours."
Thanks I can see now the thoughts behind it.
You see my stand is I'd happily go for one pint in the pub but I've absolutely no desire to go to a restaurant /gastro-pub and eat, the latter entails more exposure.
Anyhow I understand there's plenty out there that wouldn't just go for the one and social distancing gets tricky with the reduced spatial awareness due to overconsumption.
Your economical point of view doesn't really add up as you only highlight the employee's perspective. Owners still have overheads to pay and rates, the longer they're closed the more loss they're making and might never open again, resulting bankruptcy and job loss. So we might see some soup of the day for 9 quid appearing on the drink menu for the sake to open up earlier.
And just on a note even if we get this country virus free, it can always return with people going in and out of the country. The 14 day quarantine rules based on self-discipline won't work. |
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By *reland8Man
over a year ago
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
Is it not completely obvious??? The logic is to get all restaurants open. Food is a necessity, alcohol is not! The virus is not completely gone from the country, so having bars open is still too risky.
You are less likely to get scuttered and forget social distancing if you sit down and have a full meal. Also more likely to abide by social distancing if everyone has a reserved seat for food. The 9 euro limit prevents a pub selling a pack of Chrisps as food, and opening.
Remember bars were supposed to stay shut untill August initially. This is allowing chefs/waiters/floor staff/security/cleaners/delivery guys to come back a bit earlier.
Also, with the restricted opening hours and capacity, it wouldnt be economically viable to open up most small town bars yet, they would be opening up at a loss. This way bar staff can still get the covid payment, and not worried that they "need" to come back to secure a job, and loose their payment, even though their employer will only need them for very short hours.
Seems obvious to me too, alcohol only and social distancing will be out the window very quickly, it has to be in the last restrictions to go. A pub which is also a restaurant is as entitled to open as a restaurant serving alcohol, same rules applied."
If everyone would just think back to when this started and we were asked to social distance.....(before total lockdown) to the videos and pictures of the pubs all over the country that were jammed tight full d*unks........ THATS WHY!
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"U will never have the virus completely gone more then likely plus may never have a vaccine. Get out there and learn to live with it could very well be the outcome. SD is going out the window with alot but I'm not surprised. SD doesn't come naturally 2 people. I live in co tipp. There hasn't been one case of covid in tipp in god knows how long. If a second wave comes, u wont see a full lockdown, more like sections closed off for eg, areas where the virus is etc. Country cannot afford a full lockdown again. "
Absolutely!
Also, I think we are actually in the second phase now.
A case in France was confirmed on Dec 27th.
Our first case was confirmed on Feb 25th, a week before it was originally reported here.
Its 100% been here longer than we think.
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By *he MickMan
over a year ago
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No social distance in lidl on a Thursday morning
Like savages at a trough once inside 
All pubs should be allowed open at the same time using table service and a certain amount in at any one time .
I would like to go to the pub with friends to watch a match and have a beer , why should I be forced to eat there ?
Food may be a necessity but having someone cook it for me isn't. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"No social distance in lidl on a Thursday morning
Like savages at a trough once inside
All pubs should be allowed open at the same time using table service and a certain amount in at any one time .
I would like to go to the pub with friends to watch a match and have a beer , why should I be forced to eat there ?
Food may be a necessity but having someone cook it for me isn't. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Whilst it is hard to enforce social distancing. The smaller country pubs that dont do food will have to suffer on. So staff will still be on covid payment. The exchequer loses out on vat and tax. This is not only limited to hospitality trade. As a former publican , I can sympathise with non food pubs. Personally I think they should all stay shut till we are certain the virus is gone completely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
Is it not completely obvious??? The logic is to get all restaurants open. Food is a necessity, alcohol is not! The virus is not completely gone from the country, so having bars open is still too risky.
You are less likely to get scuttered and forget social distancing if you sit down and have a full meal. Also more likely to abide by social distancing if everyone has a reserved seat for food. The 9 euro limit prevents a pub selling a pack of Chrisps as food, and opening.
Remember bars were supposed to stay shut untill August initially. This is allowing chefs/waiters/floor staff/security/cleaners/delivery guys to come back a bit earlier.
Also, with the restricted opening hours and capacity, it wouldnt be economically viable to open up most small town bars yet, they would be opening up at a loss. This way bar staff can still get the covid payment, and not worried that they "need" to come back to secure a job, and loose their payment, even though their employer will only need them for very short hours.
Thanks I can see now the thoughts behind it.
You see my stand is I'd happily go for one pint in the pub but I've absolutely no desire to go to a restaurant /gastro-pub and eat, the latter entails more exposure.
Anyhow I understand there's plenty out there that wouldn't just go for the one and social distancing gets tricky with the reduced spatial awareness due to overconsumption.
Your economical point of view doesn't really add up as you only highlight the employee's perspective. Owners still have overheads to pay and rates, the longer they're closed the more loss they're making and might never open again, resulting bankruptcy and job loss. So we might see some soup of the day for 9 quid appearing on the drink menu for the sake to open up earlier.
And just on a note even if we get this country virus free, it can always return with people going in and out of the country. The 14 day quarantine rules based on self-discipline won't work. "
Well I'm not an accountant, nor do I run a pub, but once you open your doors you will need to restock your bar with perishable goods, extra cleaning crew to disinfect twice daily, extra security to monitor SD, accountants etc back on the pay roll. You will be worse off than just staying closed, untill you gross a certain profit.
I don't know what that figure is, but it would assume a lot of small pubs wouldnt be able to afford to open with the new SD restrictions, even if they were allowed to.
But again, I'd need to actually look at data to get a clearer picture, and I couldnt be arsed  |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky? "
Pubs are not allowed to open restaurants are. Some pubs will be opening as restaurants because they served food before lockdown. The rules are set up for restaurants hence the 90 mins sittings. Eating is not less risky but being pissed doesn't aid social distancing. |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky?
Pubs are not allowed to open restaurants are. Some pubs will be opening as restaurants because they served food before lockdown. The rules are set up for restaurants hence the 90 mins sittings. Eating is not less risky but being pissed doesn't aid social distancing. "
I wouldn't bother the bubs opening next year...
I just miss the gigs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My local tescos was like a cattle mart the other day. People everywhere the manager couldn't control it. People just don't care anymore an I highly doubt this social distancing will work in Irish pubs especially our younger generation students and that.. But prove me wrong when it happens |
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"Can anyone explain to me the logic behind that pub food rule?
So pubs are allowed to open at the end of the month if they serve food (min 9euro a dish). All non-gastro pubs have to stay closed another month. Why??? To kill them off altogether? Is eating food less risky? "
tables take up floor space... so no standing...so less people in the pub...so hopefully less virus spread...well thatscthe theorey |
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