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"Don’t get me wrong I observe and follow the governments guidelines but when are people going to say it’s ok to meet?"
No. The easing of the lock down will not include a relaxation of social distancing, not until there is a vaccine |
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"Don’t get me wrong I observe and follow the governments guidelines but when are people going to say it’s ok to meet?"
Not until there is a vaccine I imagine. |
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"Don’t get me wrong I observe and follow the governments guidelines but when are people going to say it’s ok to meet?"
You may continue to spank the monkey
For another while
Unless it’s over 2 meters |
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There's a good chance there may never be a vaccine,and we will just have to live with it, at a level that the healthcare system can deal with. It's not as though the entire population is going to give up sex outside relationships, so it's up to everyone to decide for themselves, given their own circumstances. Sex and human touch are important to our wellbeing (not to mention the survival of our species!) |
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"There's a good chance there may never be a vaccine,and we will just have to live with it, at a level that the healthcare system can deal with. It's not as though the entire population is going to give up sex outside relationships, so it's up to everyone to decide for themselves, given their own circumstances. Sex and human touch are important to our wellbeing (not to mention the survival of our species!)"
Finally a sensible comment. |
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"There's a good chance there may never be a vaccine,and we will just have to live with it, at a level that the healthcare system can deal with. It's not as though the entire population is going to give up sex outside relationships, so it's up to everyone to decide for themselves, given their own circumstances. Sex and human touch are important to our wellbeing (not to mention the survival of our species!)
Finally a sensible comment. "
Becasue thoae people who are saying to follow the goverment social distancing rules are not being sensible? |
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"There's a good chance there may never be a vaccine,and we will just have to live with it, at a level that the healthcare system can deal with. It's not as though the entire population is going to give up sex outside relationships, so it's up to everyone to decide for themselves, given their own circumstances. Sex and human touch are important to our wellbeing (not to mention the survival of our species!)
Finally a sensible comment.
Becasue thoae people who are saying to follow the goverment social distancing rules are not being sensible? "
It's very easy for people in a relationship to say don't meet others for sex, quite a different prospect for singles, some of whom may have little other physical touch. Those with partners and children are the lucky ones |
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"I do feel for singles absolutely... but its a stretch to say that the comments saying to follow the guidelines arent "sensible" "
They might be "sensible", but they are unrealistic |
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This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway. |
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"I do feel for singles absolutely... but its a stretch to say that the comments saying to follow the guidelines arent "sensible"
They might be "sensible", but they are unrealistic"
Agreed. My post was about the usage of the word "sensible" however
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"This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway."
We do tend to have short memories, I think it's essential to carrying on. Otherwise we would end up too paranoid to leave our homes |
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"This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway."
It wont be forgotton for a long time. We will be paying for it in our taxes, there will be a lot more unemployment than before, house prices will fall, consumer confidence is rock bottom, education will be limited and employment of parents will be hard hit so families will really struggle. The enhanced unemployment payments cant continue or we will be bankrupted.
A vaccine WILL make a differenve.
There is a mountain to climb before this will be forgotton. |
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"This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway.
It wont be forgotton for a long time. We will be paying for it in our taxes, there will be a lot more unemployment than before, house prices will fall, consumer confidence is rock bottom, education will be limited and employment of parents will be hard hit so families will really struggle. The enhanced unemployment payments cant continue or we will be bankrupted.
A vaccine WILL make a differenve.
There is a mountain to climb before this will be forgotton."
Yes but none of that will stop me getting on with my life. |
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"This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway.
It wont be forgotton for a long time. We will be paying for it in our taxes, there will be a lot more unemployment than before, house prices will fall, consumer confidence is rock bottom, education will be limited and employment of parents will be hard hit so families will really struggle. The enhanced unemployment payments cant continue or we will be bankrupted.
A vaccine WILL make a differenve.
There is a mountain to climb before this will be forgotton."
The recession won't be forgotten, nor the impact on people's mental health, but the threat of disease will.
And no vaccine has ever been approved for a coronavirus, so its probably best not to base our optimism around it. The human race will survive. |
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I guess i am hopeful because there are many candidate vaccines, and so much effort is going into the search... if we dont have one, or at least an effective treatment, then I can see this being a bit like what aids did. Culture could change and casual human-human contact could be seriously hampered for a long time to come. |
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"Don’t get me wrong I observe and follow the governments guidelines but when are people going to say it’s ok to meet?"
I reckon people outside of Dublin should be OK to meet others as long as they are isolating themselves as much as possible.. Not so sure about Dublin and its environs. Bulk of the cases are there I'd leave meeting strangers off the Internet for a long time if I lived there  |
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"I guess i am hopeful because there are many candidate vaccines, and so much effort is going into the search... if we dont have one, or at least an effective treatment, then I can see this being a bit like what aids did. Culture could change and casual human-human contact could be seriously hampered for a long time to come."
That may be the reality of it |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"I guess i am hopeful because there are many candidate vaccines, and so much effort is going into the search... if we dont have one, or at least an effective treatment, then I can see this being a bit like what aids did. Culture could change and casual human-human contact could be seriously hampered for a long time to come."
Could be hampered i agree but like aids once people become comfortable around the threat of infection they will let their defences slip
Its human nature to crave comfort in each others arms the same as we take enjoyment for group or single meets with others, people will take what they can get to satisfy their own needs while exercising a little more restraint than say eight weeks ago but sooner rather than later they will resume life as we were used to it
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"I guess that the effects of this will be with us the rest of our lifetimes no matter how you g you are at this moment.
What troubles me more is.Whats next? Something much worse i am sure of that.."
We are over the peak, and restrictions are lifting.. so i wouldnt be worrying about worse to come (with the exception of the coming deep recession). Stuff isnt going to be exactly like before though when it comes to human contact, until we have a vaccine or a treatment. |
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"I guess that the effects of this will be with us the rest of our lifetimes no matter how you g you are at this moment.
What troubles me more is.Whats next? Something much worse i am sure of that..
We are over the peak, and restrictions are lifting.. so i wouldnt be worrying about worse to come (with the exception of the coming deep recession). Stuff isnt going to be exactly like before though when it comes to human contact, until we have a vaccine or a treatment."
Society is always evolving |
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All depends on the person when it comes to meets after this but I myself wouldn’t feel comfortable with someone who is out meeting people the whole time when there’s a virus round |
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"All depends on the person when it comes to meets after this but I myself wouldn’t feel comfortable with someone who is out meeting people the whole time when there’s a virus round "
But how do you know how many people someone is meeting? |
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"All depends on the person when it comes to meets after this but I myself wouldn’t feel comfortable with someone who is out meeting people the whole time when there’s a virus round
But how do you know how many people someone is meeting?"
That’s another part of it too. |
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"As with everything else, people will make a risk assessment and weigh up the dangers verses the reward. The longer this goes on the less balanced those scales will be.. "
As an aside, was in a spar this morning and zero fucks were given about social distancing, people just wandering around as normal |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"As with everything else, people will make a risk assessment and weigh up the dangers verses the reward. The longer this goes on the less balanced those scales will be..
As an aside, was in a spar this morning and zero fucks were given about social distancing, people just wandering around as normal"
Half of the population hasn't understood the one person per trolley yet, so I'm not surprised. |
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"All depends on the person when it comes to meets after this but I myself wouldn’t feel comfortable with someone who is out meeting people the whole time when there’s a virus round
But how do you know how many people someone is meeting?"
Yeah thats a good point. If someone os willing to break thevrestrictiins to meet you.. then they are likely to have been taking risks with others. Risky |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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It’s risky but eventually people will have enough
And start meeting, who knows maybe the virus will weaken a lot and the social distance will go down to 1meter and this has a knock on effect on things such as schools and pubs |
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"It’s risky but eventually people will have enough
And start meeting, who knows maybe the virus will weaken a lot and the social distance will go down to 1meter and this has a knock on effect on things such as schools and pubs"
Thats not how it works.. The "streangh" of a virus has no bearing on how close you have to be to someone to risk catching it. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"There's a good chance there may never be a vaccine,and we will just have to live with it, at a level that the healthcare system can deal with. It's not as though the entire population is going to give up sex outside relationships, so it's up to everyone to decide for themselves, given their own circumstances. Sex and human touch are important to our wellbeing (not to mention the survival of our species!)"
Absolutely spot on |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Monogamy is the best way forward until the virus is non existent. If one doesn't have a sex buddy, find one and stick with them.
The single ladies of fab will be able to choose and a lot of single males will go without.
How many would stick to one fb though? That's the question.
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"Monogamy is the best way forward until the virus is non existent. If one doesn't have a sex buddy, find one and stick with them.
The single ladies of fab will be able to choose and a lot of single males will go without.
How many would stick to one fb though? That's the question.
L"
If i were single then id defo be looking for this. |
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"Monogamy is the best way forward until the virus is non existent. If one doesn't have a sex buddy, find one and stick with them.
The single ladies of fab will be able to choose and a lot of single males will go without.
How many would stick to one fb though? That's the question.
L"
If I could find one I'd be happy quite to stick with the one lol |
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I think people have never stopped thinking about meets. And the majority of people have been good considerate citizens and followed the Governments advice and will continue to do so.
But people have to get back to try and get back to normal and not live in the shadow of the virus. The economy is on its knees and needs to get back running. You have the potential to pick it up anywhere. Going shopping is big risk. Nobody knows when there will be a vaccine. |
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Heard today on the radio that social distancing would be here for at least another year if not longer.
With everything happening and the recession that is coming, we also need to realise that Ireland has a huge rate of suicides, mental health etc.
We need to be mindful and of course careful and follow the guidelines set for the time being.
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This opening up of the lockdown will be a demonstration of risk assessment. As with risk assessment it is not as black and white as many think and would like to believe either. Some will be very adversed to the risk others less so.
Those who think the vaccine is the simple solution might need to understand more about vaccines. They are not fool proof in prevention and they have other side effects too, another risks to weigh up. |
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I've enjoyed being seduced by someone on here. Great conversations and genuine real repeat fun. Meeting will be great but in the mean time great fun and banter. Exchange of challenges has been entertaining too.
It's not all bad guys. |
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"This opening up of the lockdown will be a demonstration of risk assessment. As with risk assessment it is not as black and white as many think and would like to believe either. Some will be very adversed to the risk others less so.
Those who think the vaccine is the simple solution might need to understand more about vaccines. They are not fool proof in prevention and they have other side effects too, another risks to weigh up."
We have a roadmap to opening up the lockdown. Its fairly black and white. Also - a vaccine wont get past the human trials if it isnt safe and doesnt work. Double blind testing of many many people is an excellent way of testing effectiveness and safety. |
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"This opening up of the lockdown will be a demonstration of risk assessment. As with risk assessment it is not as black and white as many think and would like to believe either. Some will be very adversed to the risk others less so.
Those who think the vaccine is the simple solution might need to understand more about vaccines. They are not fool proof in prevention and they have other side effects too, another risks to weigh up.
We have a roadmap to opening up the lockdown. Its fairly black and white. Also - a vaccine wont get past the human trials if it isnt safe and doesnt work. Double blind testing of many many people is an excellent way of testing effectiveness and safety."
The roadmap is black and white....literally. But can be changed and they (the Government) have said that depending on how things evolve. I believe that is what Magicfingers is referring to and I agree. |
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"This opening up of the lockdown will be a demonstration of risk assessment. As with risk assessment it is not as black and white as many think and would like to believe either. Some will be very adversed to the risk others less so.
Those who think the vaccine is the simple solution might need to understand more about vaccines. They are not fool proof in prevention and they have other side effects too, another risks to weigh up.
We have a roadmap to opening up the lockdown. Its fairly black and white. Also - a vaccine wont get past the human trials if it isnt safe and doesnt work. Double blind testing of many many people is an excellent way of testing effectiveness and safety."
I would like to have your optimism regarding the launch of a vaccine assuming it has passed double blind studies and found to be safe but so many drugs have been removed from market due to dangerous side effects with class actions following and billions paid in compensation to the families of the dead victims.
I recall a blood thinner was in trial and the company had an acceptable level of death associated with the product and it was approved by the FDA for market launch.
I suppose the one thing that is common in life is that there is risk in everything we do or don't do.
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Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated. |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated. "
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
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"This opening up of the lockdown will be a demonstration of risk assessment. As with risk assessment it is not as black and white as many think and would like to believe either. Some will be very adversed to the risk others less so.
Those who think the vaccine is the simple solution might need to understand more about vaccines. They are not fool proof in prevention and they have other side effects too, another risks to weigh up.
We have a roadmap to opening up the lockdown. Its fairly black and white. Also - a vaccine wont get past the human trials if it isnt safe and doesnt work. Double blind testing of many many people is an excellent way of testing effectiveness and safety."
The road map could easily change as will many still unthought of issues, so not a black and white as some may think. It could revert back very quickly if a second wave started.
It is a way of testing but and as you say it needs to pass trials and effectiveness can easily be fudged in order to get people Bach working to boost economy and try to minimise the damage.
Ultimately people will need to get out and live again vaccine or not and asses the risks associated with it. Personal immunity is my preference than another vaccine for many reasons and that also has a risk. |
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I think we will have to live with this for a very long time . Unlike aids for which they never found a cure i think because this virus affects every member of society a vaccine will have to be found |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated.
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
L"
If anyone has seen or wants to listen to a world renowned virologist speak out then try and find Doctors in Black on YouTube. Damning in many ways. It pops up but is removed very quickly by powers to be with some naff reason that it doesn't comply with their rules. I have a copy of it if anyone wants. |
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"I think we will have to live with this for a very long time . Unlike aids for which they never found a cure i think because this virus affects every member of society a vaccine will have to be found"
Like the flu. |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated.
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
L
If anyone has seen or wants to listen to a world renowned virologist speak out then try and find Doctors in Black on YouTube. Damning in many ways. It pops up but is removed very quickly by powers to be with some naff reason that it doesn't comply with their rules. I have a copy of it if anyone wants."
That viedo was deleted by youtube because it was spreading misinformation that was considered damaging to public health.
"They used a biased sampling; wrongs stats and extrapolated to a wrong population... ie they manipulated the data to support their preconceived and wanted conclusions. Then they lied. They also did not disclose their vested financial interests.
They are now refusing to release their data for peer review"
These doctors own regulatory body have condemned the video as fale.
These guys MAKE MONEY from youtube views and put up deliberately inflamitory material for cash. |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it? "
I doubt we'll ever be free of it. |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated.
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
L
If anyone has seen or wants to listen to a world renowned virologist speak out then try and find Doctors in Black on YouTube. Damning in many ways. It pops up but is removed very quickly by powers to be with some naff reason that it doesn't comply with their rules. I have a copy of it if anyone wants.
That viedo was deleted by youtube because it was spreading misinformation that was considered damaging to public health.
"They used a biased sampling; wrongs stats and extrapolated to a wrong population... ie they manipulated the data to support their preconceived and wanted conclusions. Then they lied. They also did not disclose their vested financial interests.
They are now refusing to release their data for peer review"
These doctors own regulatory body have condemned the video as fale.
These guys MAKE MONEY from youtube views and put up deliberately inflamitory material for cash."
Are you referring to the one showing the US medical advisor's ( who controls a few vaccine patents) connection with the Woohan lab a few months before? |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it? "
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
I doubt we'll ever be free of it."
60 new cases today.
Its going down drastically. In a few weeks it could be zero cases?
Sorry for the optimism |
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"Do ye reckon it safe to meet someone who had corona virus if yer an at risk individual  "
Its not safe for an "at risk" person to meet amyone outside their own household according to current advise. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus."
And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die? |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?"
is it safe to meet someone who had don't want to waste valuable chat I run out  |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?"
A number of months i believe. |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated.
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
L
If anyone has seen or wants to listen to a world renowned virologist speak out then try and find Doctors in Black on YouTube. Damning in many ways. It pops up but is removed very quickly by powers to be with some naff reason that it doesn't comply with their rules. I have a copy of it if anyone wants.
That viedo was deleted by youtube because it was spreading misinformation that was considered damaging to public health.
"They used a biased sampling; wrongs stats and extrapolated to a wrong population... ie they manipulated the data to support their preconceived and wanted conclusions. Then they lied. They also did not disclose their vested financial interests.
They are now refusing to release their data for peer review"
These doctors own regulatory body have condemned the video as fale.
These guys MAKE MONEY from youtube views and put up deliberately inflamitory material for cash.
Are you referring to the one showing the US medical advisor's ( who controls a few vaccine patents) connection with the Woohan lab a few months before?"
The whole opinion was based on deliberately skewed data and interpretes forward incorrectly. They KNOW this. Its just a money racket. They wont release the data for review by anyone else for this reason. Go look at proper peer reviewed evidence of which there is plenty. Youtube is not a reliable scientific source. |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?"
Any reinfections of it yet? |
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"Sure there can be very rare bad reactions... but the are VERY rare because if they werent then someone would have reacted in the trials. They look at risk vs reward and if something saves thousands of lives then a one in a million bad reaction is tolerated.
I see your point, but if only they could keep it to one in a million. Merck settled with 27000 individual cases to the tune of $4.85billion for a dodgy drug.
My concern is that they will rush this through as the pressure mounts. The world is corrupt at every level.
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If anyone has seen or wants to listen to a world renowned virologist speak out then try and find Doctors in Black on YouTube. Damning in many ways. It pops up but is removed very quickly by powers to be with some naff reason that it doesn't comply with their rules. I have a copy of it if anyone wants.
That viedo was deleted by youtube because it was spreading misinformation that was considered damaging to public health.
"They used a biased sampling; wrongs stats and extrapolated to a wrong population... ie they manipulated the data to support their preconceived and wanted conclusions. Then they lied. They also did not disclose their vested financial interests.
They are now refusing to release their data for peer review"
These doctors own regulatory body have condemned the video as fale.
These guys MAKE MONEY from youtube views and put up deliberately inflamitory material for cash.
Are you referring to the one showing the US medical advisor's ( who controls a few vaccine patents) connection with the Woohan lab a few months before?
The whole opinion was based on deliberately skewed data and interpretes forward incorrectly. They KNOW this. Its just a money racket. They wont release the data for review by anyone else for this reason. Go look at proper peer reviewed evidence of which there is plenty. Youtube is not a reliable scientific source."
I reserve my judgement till I see the evidence to show otherwise.
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe."
Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism. |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism. "
Um, it's not as though our borders are closed |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closed"
Yes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct? |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closedYes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct? "
In theory yes, however if someone has a sore throat but isn't too sick, what are the chances they'll say nothing and carry on working and socialising rather than get tested? It looks as if a lot of people get relatively mild symptoms, that's part of the reason it's so easily spread. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closedYes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct?
In theory yes, however if someone has a sore throat but isn't too sick, what are the chances they'll say nothing and carry on working and socialising rather than get tested? It looks as if a lot of people get relatively mild symptoms, that's part of the reason it's so easily spread."
BUT if theres no cases then its only a sore throat. Doesnt matter if its easy to spread or not.
Theres no cases, virus free as such.
Correct? |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closedYes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct?
In theory yes, however if someone has a sore throat but isn't too sick, what are the chances they'll say nothing and carry on working and socialising rather than get tested? It looks as if a lot of people get relatively mild symptoms, that's part of the reason it's so easily spread.BUT if theres no cases then its only a sore throat. Doesnt matter if its easy to spread or not.
Theres no cases, virus free as such.
Correct?"
If its not coronavirus! Whats your point here? Since our borders are open, we cannot be guaranteed free of it, certainly not when our European neighbours have it. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closedYes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct?
In theory yes, however if someone has a sore throat but isn't too sick, what are the chances they'll say nothing and carry on working and socialising rather than get tested? It looks as if a lot of people get relatively mild symptoms, that's part of the reason it's so easily spread.BUT if theres no cases then its only a sore throat. Doesnt matter if its easy to spread or not.
Theres no cases, virus free as such.
Correct?
If its not coronavirus! Whats your point here? Since our borders are open, we cannot be guaranteed free of it, certainly not when our European neighbours have it."
Doesn’t matter though we will be free of it, no cases a such. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Nothing is 100%. |
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"I have a question.
What happens when or if we get to a stage when we have had no new cases for 14 days?
With or without a vaccine.
Does that not mean we are free of it?
No.. because there will still be existing people fighting the virus who coild pass it on and begin a second wave.
We will be free of it when the last covid positive person either dies or whose immune systen has eradicated the virus.And realistically how long will someone fight it before they recover or die?
A number of months i believe.Yea but do you have any actual specifics? Like it seems extreme that it would take more than a 4 weeks.
And considering we only have what 50 in ICU currently, and this number is again coming down.
We could easily have zero in ICO in a few weeks.
Again sorry for the optimism.
Um, it's not as though our borders are closedYes i agree and thats a concern but that is not what i am talking about. If what I describe does happen and we had a situation where we had no new cases for 14 days and everyone has either recovered or died then we would be free it, correct?
In theory yes, however if someone has a sore throat but isn't too sick, what are the chances they'll say nothing and carry on working and socialising rather than get tested? It looks as if a lot of people get relatively mild symptoms, that's part of the reason it's so easily spread.BUT if theres no cases then its only a sore throat. Doesnt matter if its easy to spread or not.
Theres no cases, virus free as such.
Correct?
If its not coronavirus! Whats your point here? Since our borders are open, we cannot be guaranteed free of it, certainly not when our European neighbours have it.
Doesn’t matter though we will be free of it, no cases a such. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Nothing is 100%. "
I can't imagine pandemic experts declaring us free of the disease on the first day of no cases.
My personal opinion is that, contrary to making rational choices as we like to think, humans decide on their preferred course of action, then set about finding the justification for it. |
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Well I don't see any justification sitting at home afraid of a virus with low or no current cases.
The majority of the country (with some notable exceptions) followed the experts advice and did as advised with the result that cases are declining.
But we cannot stay at home or not 'interact' for indefinitely. Will this mean that cases might increase, possibly, but that is in the future.
People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"Well I don't see any justification sitting at home afraid of a virus with low or no current cases.
The majority of the country (with some notable exceptions) followed the experts advice and did as advised with the result that cases are declining.
But we cannot stay at home or not 'interact' for indefinitely. Will this mean that cases might increase, possibly, but that is in the future.
People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on."
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"Well I don't see any justification sitting at home afraid of a virus with low or no current cases.
The majority of the country (with some notable exceptions) followed the experts advice and did as advised with the result that cases are declining.
But we cannot stay at home or not 'interact' for indefinitely. Will this mean that cases might increase, possibly, but that is in the future.
People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on."
Oh I agree totally, life goes on, we have to live with the virus whether the time comes (or not) that it is under our control. We make our choices and accept the consequences, as with all our decisions. |
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"It’s risky but eventually people will have enough
And start meeting, who knows maybe the virus will weaken a lot and the social distance will go down to 1meter and this has a knock on effect on things such as schools and pubs
Thats not how it works.. The "streangh" of a virus has no bearing on how close you have to be to someone to risk catching it. "
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"You mean can the same person be reinfected after recovering?
It is believed not, but its not yet known how long this protection lasts."
This is what I believe makes it far less a risk than many current activities which we do daily which kill more people and yet most don't consider the risks involved.
A bit like wearing a seat belt makes a driver feel safer and so takes higher risks than what he would do if he had no seat belt. |
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"Don’t get me wrong I observe and follow the governments guidelines but when are people going to say it’s ok to meet?"
If you follow the government's guidelines, then it's not OK to meet until the government say so. |
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People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on."
I do and will continue to harshly judge people who meet for sex while social distancing is in place. This is not a situation where we can use our own discretion. None of us can make a judgement call that even comes close to being as informed or accurate as the government's team of experts. It's a public health issue, where each of us is responsible for doing what we can to keep the most vulnerable people in society safe, based on the expert advice given. If someone thinks their need to fuck is more important than that, they (in my opinion) are selfish, unintelligent, and arrogant. |
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"This will all blow over. It’s like flooding it’s a huge deal when it’s happing but after it’s gone it’s forgot in no time. By the time the vaccine comes the infection rate will be so low in the community that people will not take it anyway."
I've not heard a peep from the anti vax mob....yet.... |
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Confirmed cases today 64, % of passing it on now stands at less than 1 but ill take it that we double the number that have it today, thats 126 in a population of 4.9 million that is 1 in 38000 people have the virous ,it will come down to how fast ,1 you can get a test going forward and 2 how fast that result comes back ,needs to be less than 72 hours total , and then the normal joe soup who has no illness ,going by maths and thats what the HSE and govermeant are going by ,it will be fairly safe to meet ,at that stage you will have more of a chance of picking up an STD than covid19 |
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"Well I don't see any justification sitting at home afraid of a virus with low or no current cases.
The majority of the country (with some notable exceptions) followed the experts advice and did as advised with the result that cases are declining.
But we cannot stay at home or not 'interact' for indefinitely. Will this mean that cases might increase, possibly, but that is in the future.
People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on."
Noone is suggesting that everyone should stay at home indefinitely.
People SHOULD be judged if they break the govermment public health advise.
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"Confirmed cases today 64, % of passing it on now stands at less than 1 but ill take it that we double the number that have it today, thats 126 in a population of 4.9 million that is 1 in 38000 people have the virous ,it will come down to how fast ,1 you can get a test going forward and 2 how fast that result comes back ,needs to be less than 72 hours total , and then the normal joe soup who has no illness ,going by maths and thats what the HSE and govermeant are going by ,it will be fairly safe to meet ,at that stage you will have more of a chance of picking up an STD than covid19 "
Yes, we will be relying on the HSE to come up trumps in terms of rapid turnaround testing and tracing, I'll try to have faith. |
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"Confirmed cases today 64, % of passing it on now stands at less than 1 but ill take it that we double the number that have it today, thats 126 in a population of 4.9 million that is 1 in 38000 people have the virous ,it will come down to how fast ,1 you can get a test going forward and 2 how fast that result comes back ,needs to be less than 72 hours total , and then the normal joe soup who has no illness ,going by maths and thats what the HSE and govermeant are going by ,it will be fairly safe to meet ,at that stage you will have more of a chance of picking up an STD than covid19 "
Careful assuming that the 64 diagnosed cases are the total cases. It will be a higher number than that who are infected. Possibly a lot higher. |
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"Well I don't see any justification sitting at home afraid of a virus with low or no current cases.
The majority of the country (with some notable exceptions) followed the experts advice and did as advised with the result that cases are declining.
But we cannot stay at home or not 'interact' for indefinitely. Will this mean that cases might increase, possibly, but that is in the future.
People should not be 'judged' if they begin to meet again over the next few months. They are not doing anything wrong. If an a person(s) is does. not feel comfortable or is scared of getting Covid than it is there choice to stay at home while others move on.
Noone is suggesting that everyone should stay at home indefinitely.
People SHOULD be judged if they break the govermment public health advise.
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By *ommando4Man
over a year ago
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"Confirmed cases today 64, % of passing it on now stands at less than 1 but ill take it that we double the number that have it today, thats 126 in a population of 4.9 million that is 1 in 38000 people have the virous ,it will come down to how fast ,1 you can get a test going forward and 2 how fast that result comes back ,needs to be less than 72 hours total , and then the normal joe soup who has no illness ,going by maths and thats what the HSE and govermeant are going by ,it will be fairly safe to meet ,at that stage you will have more of a chance of picking up an STD than covid19
Careful assuming that the 64 diagnosed cases are the total cases. It will be a higher number than that who are infected. Possibly a lot higher."
Some of the university projection sites have Ireland with 0.3% of the population currently infected (cumulative 5%) and currently approximately 850 new cases per day (most undetected) |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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Let's face it the government won't come out saying you can fuck around again. At the same time social distancing won't go away until Covid-19 goes away. So we all will have to make our own risk assessment and decision. I know already I'm not gonna wait until vaccine day until I see, touch, taste and ride a cock again. |
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By *etergemmaCouple
over a year ago
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"Let's face it the government won't come out saying you can fuck around again. At the same time social distancing won't go away until Covid-19 goes away. So we all will have to make our own risk assessment and decision. I know already I'm not gonna wait until vaccine day until I see, touch, taste and ride a cock again. "
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In fairness I like most have been in situations over the last 8 weeks where people would lick your face to get to the raspberries a few seconds quicker. When the R rate is below 0.5 people will make their own informed choices on meeting. One on one or couples meets will be back soon enough I'd say but parties could be a disaster.
Really hard to make an informed choice until the daily numbers are consistently much lower than they are now |
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"In fairness I like most have been in situations over the last 8 weeks where people would lick your face to get to the raspberries a few seconds quicker. When the R rate is below 0.5 people will make their own informed choices on meeting. One on one or couples meets will be back soon enough I'd say but parties could be a disaster.
Really hard to make an informed choice until the daily numbers are consistently much lower than they are now"
Social distancing hasn't been really adhered too once inside the stores. It is in the queues outside . |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Just back from a walk, its bustling out there. A bus passed us, every seat that can currently be sat on, looked full.
We will know soon enough how things are gonna turn out. "
In two weeks will know more... |
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By *s LollyWoman
over a year ago
The pub then supermacs ... |
"Would it be ok to get a blow up doll to ride or does that wrong with social distancing too
It's allowed if she wears a face mask and you check her temperature  "
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