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I would have faith that a vaccine is possible... but a likely worst case is that we need to updated vaccine each year for the likely strain that is prevalent in a particular year.. similar to the flu vaccine. |
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Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
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I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne. |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne. "
Well put. Big pharma is real , no doubt. But the medication they produce works, and it does so well. The issue with big pharma is an American problem where they have excruciatingly high prices for every day medicine. If they produce a vaccine I'll take it. |
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Based on current knowledge, No. Ive never had a flu shot and have a strong immune system. If some countries restrict my travel, i can live with that . You used to need a yellow card, a vaccination passport to visit certain countries. If you didnt get vaxxed you couldnt visit. Im not sure if it still applies. |
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"But what if each country requires it before you enter it?
That implies compulsory vaccination, don't think that will go down well. "
Not compulsory but would mean restricted travel for those that dont have it  |
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Well put. Big pharma is real , no doubt. But the medication they produce works, and it does so well. The issue with big pharma is an American problem where they have excruciatingly high prices for every day medicine. If they produce a vaccine I'll take it. "
I'm not anti-medication at all, but to assume that all medication "works" is really very naive. Many medications don't work. Most medications that do cause other problems as side effects, which is why most elderly people are on a dozen+ tablets a day. To take any new medication without first questioning it is very foolish in my opinion. 9/10 you'll probably end up taking it anyway, but at least you'll be aware of what you're putting into your body.
Also, the issue with Big Pharma is not an American one. It's a global one. |
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I'll be getting it and to all the people who said they won't get it if you get the covid-19 and end up in hospital don't complain about it cause its your own fault |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne. "
Oh you really messed up with that post!
Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.
"survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 7%"
Also, some people on this thread have had cancer and survived and healthy without any major pharmaceutical treatments, simply natural remedies.
My best friend got pancreatic cancer, caught early and went through the pharma/chemo route.
He's no longer with us.
Another friend got it, has been using herbal/traditional medicine and it's regressing. Doctors asking for specific, in depth details about what they are doing, because the doctors are ignorant of the "outside the norm" methods.
Please don't make such broad brush statements.
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
Oh you really messed up with that post!
Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.
"survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 7%"
Also, some people on this thread have had cancer and survived and healthy without any major pharmaceutical treatments, simply natural remedies.
My best friend got pancreatic cancer, caught early and went through the pharma/chemo route.
He's no longer with us.
Another friend got it, has been using herbal/traditional medicine and it's regressing. Doctors asking for specific, in depth details about what they are doing, because the doctors are ignorant of the "outside the norm" methods.
Please don't make such broad brush statements.
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Sorry but I can't reply privately to you, though I suspect another poster may have.
I would, if I could. |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne. "
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
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4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies  |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne. "
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies "
It depends on the diabetes they have.
Making claims that natural will help with everything is no different from people who will say that it doesn't help at all. And I'm talking from personal experience. When I was a child I was taken off my meds for a condition I have and put on natural remedies and I almost died. All because someone persuaded my parents pharmaceuticals were bad. I spent over a year being seriously ill until I ended up being admitted to hospital put back on my old meds and recovered.
I've also lost 2 friends who went the natural route after being diagnosed with cancer. I've family members who took conventional meds after being diagnosed and they are still alive and clear. Who knows what would have happened had they taken the opposite route.
Basically do what is right for you don't knock or belittle others for their beliefs. |
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Before the arrival of modern medicine, vaccine and antibiotics, the natural order was that a significant number of women died of infection after giving birth, the infant mortality rate was huge and many children died in early childhood due to diseases which are now almost forgotten in just a couple of generations.
That's what "natural" means, survival of the fittest, all great if you happen to be one of those, not so much if you're not, or a child whose immunity is not fully developed and who could easily succumb or have your health compromised long-term by diseases like polio, diphtheria, measles.
Disease and death are "natural". |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
Oh you really messed up with that post!
Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.
"survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 7%"
Also, some people on this thread have had cancer and survived and healthy without any major pharmaceutical treatments, simply natural remedies.
My best friend got pancreatic cancer, caught early and went through the pharma/chemo route.
He's no longer with us.
Another friend got it, has been using herbal/traditional medicine and it's regressing. Doctors asking for specific, in depth details about what they are doing, because the doctors are ignorant of the "outside the norm" methods.
Please don't make such broad brush statements.
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That's idiotic. Your claim is that lots of people die from pancreatic cancer therefore we should use herbal medicne rather than actual medicine.. is that right? |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies "
How were they diagnosed with diabetes is wonder? Was it by modern medical testing using chemicals and drugs perhaps.. or did they read it in tea leaves or something. Did they use medical tests to see blood sugar levels? Did they use big pharma drugs to control it while they were using diet to reverse it? I'd say they more than likely did. |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies
It depends on the diabetes they have.
Making claims that natural will help with everything is no different from people who will say that it doesn't help at all. And I'm talking from personal experience. When I was a child I was taken off my meds for a condition I have and put on natural remedies and I almost died. All because someone persuaded my parents pharmaceuticals were bad. I spent over a year being seriously ill until I ended up being admitted to hospital put back on my old meds and recovered.
I've also lost 2 friends who went the natural route after being diagnosed with cancer. I've family members who took conventional meds after being diagnosed and they are still alive and clear. Who knows what would have happened had they taken the opposite route.
Basically do what is right for you don't knock or belittle others for their beliefs. "
My mam had a saying....doctors differ and patients die....do whatever is right for you...big pharma...vicky phelan is one person I can think of that pharma produced drugs helped...without them she would be deceased...so yes pharma has a place...I can think of numerous family members I can think of that are in savage pain from arthritis...and instead of meds...I'd rather see them take plant based meds...so each to their own....if someone feels better after eating buttercups...then let them...dont knock them |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies
How were they diagnosed with diabetes is wonder? Was it by modern medical testing using chemicals and drugs perhaps.. or did they read it in tea leaves or something. Did they use medical tests to see blood sugar levels? Did they use big pharma drugs to control it while they were using diet to reverse it? I'd say they more than likely did. "
I think nobody dismisses modern medicine and its achievements althogether. At the same time you cannot deny that alternative approaches can sometimes be the better solution than taking drugs. Drugs often fight the symptoms but don't cure the problem.
The two combined could be quite successful but unfortunately there's not enough money to be made in ie changing your diet. |
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Oh absolutely there are other approaches other than just drugs. GPs for example will regularly advise on diet and exercise. Drugs arent the only answer all the time.. but they ARE the only answer some of the time.
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It's the people who stop taking lifesaving drugs and turn to unproven "alternative medicne" that worked for their aunt sharon or that their guru told them to take.. that's the real issue. Lives are lost for stupidty reasons. |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies
How were they diagnosed with diabetes is wonder? Was it by modern medical testing using chemicals and drugs perhaps.. or did they read it in tea leaves or something. Did they use medical tests to see blood sugar levels? Did they use big pharma drugs to control it while they were using diet to reverse it? I'd say they more than likely did.
I think nobody dismisses modern medicine and its achievements althogether. At the same time you cannot deny that alternative approaches can sometimes be the better solution than taking drugs. Drugs often fight the symptoms but don't cure the problem.
The two combined could be quite successful but unfortunately there's not enough money to be made in ie changing your diet. "
Plus people prefer the quick fix, long term change of diet and drinking/smoking habits and taking more exercise is pretty unappealing for many.
I agree it's a combination, do your research into both and make your choices. I can assure you there's plenty of profit margin for some alternative lifestyle purveyors too.
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IF.. and it's a big If..
An effective vaccine is tested and made available, I will be getting it.
And I would go so far as to say that it should be Mandatory, like measles, bcg, mumps etc should be mandatory.
You should have a Qr code or similar to prove you have been vaccinated, and businesses, schools etc should be able to request this proof, and reserve the right to refuse entry without it.
And before anyone goes on about your rights, big pharma, etc, I will debate you.. Your rights do not extend to being allowed to infect people with comprised immune systems etc, and do NOT debate me if your source of information is Youtube, or Facebook.
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"IF.. and it's a big If..
An effective vaccine is tested and made available, I will be getting it.
And I would go so far as to say that it should be Mandatory, like measles, bcg, mumps etc should be mandatory.
You should have a Qr code or similar to prove you have been vaccinated, and businesses, schools etc should be able to request this proof, and reserve the right to refuse entry without it.
And before anyone goes on about your rights, big pharma, etc, I will debate you.. Your rights do not extend to being allowed to infect people with comprised immune systems etc, and do NOT debate me if your source of information is Youtube, or Facebook.
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By *oghunter33Woman
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"IF.. and it's a big If..
An effective vaccine is tested and made available, I will be getting it.
And I would go so far as to say that it should be Mandatory, like measles, bcg, mumps etc should be mandatory.
You should have a Qr code or similar to prove you have been vaccinated, and businesses, schools etc should be able to request this proof, and reserve the right to refuse entry without it.
And before anyone goes on about your rights, big pharma, etc, I will debate you.. Your rights do not extend to being allowed to infect people with comprised immune systems etc, and do NOT debate me if your source of information is Youtube, or Facebook.
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"IF.. and it's a big If..
An effective vaccine is tested and made available, I will be getting it.
And I would go so far as to say that it should be Mandatory, like measles, bcg, mumps etc should be mandatory.
You should have a Qr code or similar to prove you have been vaccinated, and businesses, schools etc should be able to request this proof, and reserve the right to refuse entry without it.
And before anyone goes on about your rights, big pharma, etc, I will debate you.. Your rights do not extend to being allowed to infect people with comprised immune systems etc, and do NOT debate me if your source of information is Youtube, or Facebook.
Why not get a chip implanted at the same time to complete your police state idea? "
Sorry Doghunter.. your statement is based on opinion and not facts.. I am happy to debate you, with facts and truths, I am not interested in "opinions" and "theories" and comments about chips and police state are idiotic considering that phone you willingly hold in your hand can provide more information about You than any "Chip" |
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"IF.. and it's a big If..
An effective vaccine is tested and made available, I will be getting it.
And I would go so far as to say that it should be Mandatory, like measles, bcg, mumps etc should be mandatory.
You should have a Qr code or similar to prove you have been vaccinated, and businesses, schools etc should be able to request this proof, and reserve the right to refuse entry without it.
And before anyone goes on about your rights, big pharma, etc, I will debate you.. Your rights do not extend to being allowed to infect people with comprised immune systems etc, and do NOT debate me if your source of information is Youtube, or Facebook.
Why not get a chip implanted at the same time to complete your police state idea?
Sorry Doghunter.. your statement is based on opinion and not facts.. I am happy to debate you, with facts and truths, I am not interested in "opinions" and "theories" and comments about chips and police state are idiotic considering that phone you willingly hold in your hand can provide more information about You than any "Chip" "
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Gotta say that while I believe vaccines to be one of the best human inventions since our species walked on 2 legs... i would be against mandatory vaccination. A persons body is their own to do with as they wish. Holding someone down and forcibly injecting them wouldn't be for me. By all means encourage vaccination by allowing shops/schools/any place or activity to exclude the unvaccinated. |
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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago
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Sorry Doghunter.. your statement is based on opinion and not facts.. I am happy to debate you, with facts and truths, I am not interested in "opinions" and "theories" and comments about chips and police state are idiotic considering that phone you willingly hold in your hand can provide more information about You than any "Chip" "
Your idea of compulsory vaccination is as much opinion based as is my police state comment.
I'm no anti-vaxer, I'm very much pro regarding traditional vaccines such as polio or mmr, however I'd heavily oppose compulsory vaccination. It's a slippery slope. Who is going to decides what is safe, what is compulsory and where does it end? Who defines your 'facts and truth'? At least as it stands everyone is responsible for their own health and the risks involved of taking a vaccine or not.
Your argument of personal rights not extending as far as to infect other people with an compromised immune system isn't valid when there's a vaccine, if the latter are vaccinated they don't have to fear anything of a non vaccinated one, if they're not it's their own responsibility. Simple as that.
Oh and btw I can always abandon my phone, it's not part of me. |
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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"Covid19 vaccine when it comes out. Will you be getting it or refusing.
Answers yes for getting bit, no for refusing!"
I'll be getting it when it's available
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Sorry Doghunter.. your statement is based on opinion and not facts.. I am happy to debate you, with facts and truths, I am not interested in "opinions" and "theories" and comments about chips and police state are idiotic considering that phone you willingly hold in your hand can provide more information about You than any "Chip"
Your idea of compulsory vaccination is as much opinion based as is my police state comment.
I'm no anti-vaxer, I'm very much pro regarding traditional vaccines such as polio or mmr, however I'd heavily oppose compulsory vaccination. It's a slippery slope. Who is going to decides what is safe, what is compulsory and where does it end? Who defines your 'facts and truth'? At least as it stands everyone is responsible for their own health and the risks involved of taking a vaccine or not.
Your argument of personal rights not extending as far as to infect other people with an compromised immune system isn't valid when there's a vaccine, if the latter are vaccinated they don't have to fear anything of a non vaccinated one, if they're not it's their own responsibility. Simple as that.
Oh and btw I can always abandon my phone, it's not part of me."
I am delighted to hear you are not an anti-vaxxer, but I must disagree, and here's why...Unfortunately where this is concerned it's the exactly the opposite to "everyone is responsible for their own health".. in this case of Coronavirus, everyone is now responsible for everyone else's health, so, also your point about immunocompromised people getting the vaccine is incorrect, and here's why.
By the very nature of being immunocompromised, cancer patients, newborns, people with auto immune issues etc, can't get the vaccine, as it would potentially kill them, so they have to depend on the rest of us (a min of 96% vaccinated) to acquire herd immunity for their protection, which is a point many do not understand.
We can all abandon our phones.. but everything you've ever done on it has been recorded and stored.. and we ALL gave that info up willingly.
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over a year ago
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Someone in this thread said we are all now responsible for every one else's health as well as our own.
That is a very sobering thought and I feel now I have a moral duty to take the vaccine.
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
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There is no such thing as “artificial”. Once it can be produced it’s natural. Whether it is effective or not is a different matter. Vaccine deniers are a danger to society as they present a transmission route to vulnerable people who cannot take the vaccine for medical reasons. It is, at best, ignorant behaviour and, at worst, reckless and negligent. |
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"Get a grip everyone .let's just hope we have a choice
Asap .take it or dont take it . Look after yourself and your own family .everyone will hopefully have a choice . And let's get on with life"
Which is all well and good until you have somebody in your family who cant be vaccinated due to a health condition, or are too young. These people rely on enough of the population being covered to say safe. Its a social responsability in my eyes. |
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By *ommando4Man
over a year ago
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I work for big pharma and have been involved in the production of vaccines in the past and I know the level of attention to quality and every last detail that goes into developing and making vaccines so I’m a big believer in efficacy and safety particularly from a reputable big pharma company. They are subject to regular and routine audits by multiple regulatory authorities and have very robust quality procedures. |
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My family, friends and I chosen better way.
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With respect it is this kind of divisive commentary that makes any kind of meaningful debate so difficult. There is no one better way. Not all illnesses are curable by natural remedies and some illnesses just aren’t curable at all.
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over a year ago
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I would get it.
I like the idea of having a choice but I also know if I have kids they wont be going near my conspiracy theorist sister unless shes vaccinated. She doesn't take anything. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
Oh you really messed up with that post!
Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.
"survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 7%"
Also, some people on this thread have had cancer and survived and healthy without any major pharmaceutical treatments, simply natural remedies.
My best friend got pancreatic cancer, caught early and went through the pharma/chemo route.
He's no longer with us.
Another friend got it, has been using herbal/traditional medicine and it's regressing. Doctors asking for specific, in depth details about what they are doing, because the doctors are ignorant of the "outside the norm" methods.
Please don't make such broad brush statements.
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Totally agree, have a family member that passed away from it, and went through the route, within less than 7 months she was gone.
I won't be getting it unless it's mandatory. |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
Oh you really messed up with that post!
Pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.
"survival rate is 20%, and the five-year rate is 7%"
Also, some people on this thread have had cancer and survived and healthy without any major pharmaceutical treatments, simply natural remedies.
My best friend got pancreatic cancer, caught early and went through the pharma/chemo route.
He's no longer with us.
Another friend got it, has been using herbal/traditional medicine and it's regressing. Doctors asking for specific, in depth details about what they are doing, because the doctors are ignorant of the "outside the norm" methods.
Please don't make such broad brush statements.
That's idiotic. Your claim is that lots of people die from pancreatic cancer therefore we should use herbal medicne rather than actual medicine.. is that right?"
I'm idiotic?
You said "I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer" to someone who got cancer twice and survived through natural healing but I'm idiotic 
Also, I never said lots of people die from pancreatic cancer. I said that the survival rates of those who do contract it is very low.
I know 2 people who have had it. One who went chemo route is dead and one who didn't and is still here.
I merely gave examples from my personal life and nowhere did I prescribe it for all. I said "some people " not all people.
I believe in modern medicine but am also open to natural remedies.
Call it Whatever Makes Me Better, I'll Take but I do try to refrain from making broadbrush statements that make me sound like an authority, or saying This is What You Should Do, unlike some. |
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"Vaccine and drugs free zone here. No one takes anything big pharma produces in my whole family. There are lot of natural remedies without harming the body like artificial ones.
I hope neither you or anyone in your family ever gets any serious illnesses like cancer or diabetes or one of the many things curable by modern medicne. "Big pharma" produce the drugs that would keep them/you alive.
Almost everything is "artificial". Almost everthing was made by someone somewhere.
Steve jobs' pancreatic cancer would have responded quite well to drugs. Hes dead now because of his herbal medicne.
I have had cancer twice my dear. Without chemo. Im stil alive!
Diabetes? You can fix many things in your body by fasting, eating healthy food.
You are what you eat.
I trust natural medicine, Chinese, Ayurvedic.
These days people trust that drugs can save them, but in many cases its more damage to body than helping to heal.
Everyone is entitled to have own opinion and live their own lives as they want.
My family, friends and I chosen better way.
4 different friends of mine have cured their diabetes through dietary change and natural healing remedies
How were they diagnosed with diabetes is wonder? Was it by modern medical testing using chemicals and drugs perhaps.. or did they read it in tea leaves or something. Did they use medical tests to see blood sugar levels? Did they use big pharma drugs to control it while they were using diet to reverse it? I'd say they more than likely did. "
Modern medical testing identified diabetes, in all cases. Tea leaves were strangely absent.
Big pharma drugs first route in 3 out of 4. All eventually went diet and natural remedies are in a better place, blood sugar levels back to normal, no injections required.
Two other friends sticking to big pharma, have not been successful with lifestyle changes and pissed off with needles.
Do me a favour? If you have a problem with me specifically, for some reason, pm me about it, or ignore my posts and we'll be good |
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over a year ago
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"Covid19 vaccine when it comes out. Will you be getting it or refusing.
Answers yes for getting bit, no for refusing!"
Yes , then log on here and try to get a bit !! |
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A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them."
While I agree partially with that, there is also this... Which would mean many of the deaths you are using would possibly not be due to covid. Would you still have the same view?
Rip.ie analysis finds excess mortality of 2,300 in first 11 months of pandemic
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/rip-ie-analysis-finds-excess-mortality-of-2-300-in-first-11-months-of-pandemic-1.4552586 |
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over a year ago
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Both had our second and both had Astra Zenica, with no side effects. Still dismayed at the Antivax idiots though, chosing to believe the propaganda peddled by provably discredited 'experts'. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them."
if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it. "
That's not true at all. If all the vulnerable are vaccinated it means they won't get ill or die, also taking the pressure off the health system.
However, if everyone else ignores the reality of the virus it allows the virus to continue existing, thereby allowing mutations to develop. There is no guarantee that the vaccine will protect against those potential new variants. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them."
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it. "
How is it, over a year into a pandemic people still don't understand the simple basics of how vaccines work? It is impossible to vaccinate all the vulnerable, because some bodies simply will not take the vaccine, so we need to protect them by keeping the transmission rates in the community down.
Also, if the maximum number of healthy people are is vaccinated, it slows transmission which slows mutation rate. It gives us more time to develop vaccines on the new variations before they take over |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine. "
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious. "
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced  |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced "
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced "
Ah, so nobody died last summer then?
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By *oo32Man
over a year ago
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Could any of the health experts/doctors on here prescribe something for the rash....
It's back....it doesnt itch...
Only oozes at night...
And when ya squint it kinda looks like Mexico... |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling. "
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs. "
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it.
How is it, over a year into a pandemic people still don't understand the simple basics of how vaccines work? It is impossible to vaccinate all the vulnerable, because some bodies simply will not take the vaccine, so we need to protect them by keeping the transmission rates in the community down.
Also, if the maximum number of healthy people are is vaccinated, it slows transmission which slows mutation rate. It gives us more time to develop vaccines on the new variations before they take over"
as a chap on the radio said last week. healthy immune systems in the large regard will fight the virus. id love to know how many even had the virus and didn't know. |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it.
How is it, over a year into a pandemic people still don't understand the simple basics of how vaccines work? It is impossible to vaccinate all the vulnerable, because some bodies simply will not take the vaccine, so we need to protect them by keeping the transmission rates in the community down.
Also, if the maximum number of healthy people are is vaccinated, it slows transmission which slows mutation rate. It gives us more time to develop vaccines on the new variations before they take over
as a chap on the radio said last week. healthy immune systems in the large regard will fight the virus. id love to know how many even had the virus and didn't know."
Sure remember at the start, you couldn't even get tested unless you were over 65, or to the point of hospitalisation. I'd say a serious number of people had it but just didn't know/ couldn't get a test.
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
if all the vulnerable here are vaxed then it doesn't matter what the rest do. the vulnerable are vaxed and protected. thats the most important thing but I can see you needing a vaccine type passport to do alot of stuff. it's not mandatory but in another sense they want you getting it.
How is it, over a year into a pandemic people still don't understand the simple basics of how vaccines work? It is impossible to vaccinate all the vulnerable, because some bodies simply will not take the vaccine, so we need to protect them by keeping the transmission rates in the community down.
Also, if the maximum number of healthy people are is vaccinated, it slows transmission which slows mutation rate. It gives us more time to develop vaccines on the new variations before they take over
as a chap on the radio said last week. healthy immune systems in the large regard will fight the virus. id love to know how many even had the virus and didn't know.
Sure remember at the start, you couldn't even get tested unless you were over 65, or to the point of hospitalisation. I'd say a serious number of people had it but just didn't know/ couldn't get a test.
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Two members of my staff were really ill in November 19 with covid like symptoms. In early December 19 a family member had to take a week off work for the first time in her life due to illness with the same issues. Around that time I had a persistent cough and breathing issues.
That was before covid was ever mentioned but 18 months later none of us have ever been tested so who knows? |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
Ah, so nobody died last summer then?
Oh wait.. "
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm getting mine tomorrow advantages of being old. So mad though twin is in different county and has different Gp she's got her vaccine exact same time as me same place and day and my appointment no is 1 number after her appointment number! So we can hold each others hand for support! |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs.
and yet there were no facts?? "
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By *affa31Woman
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs.
and yet there were no facts??
Coronavirus's are seasonal"
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs.
and yet there were no facts??
Coronavirus's are seasonal"
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
Ah, so nobody died last summer then?
Oh wait..
People die all the time, just not from covid. Do you remember the great pandemic in the summer of 2018 when even more people died. "
It's handy to be able to dismiss reality like that. The virus was with its last summer despite a fairly strict lockdown, and despite people like you and Trump telling us it was going to disappear overnight! |
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"I'm getting mine tomorrow advantages of being old. So mad though twin is in different county and has different Gp she's got her vaccine exact same time as me same place and day and my appointment no is 1 number after her appointment number! So we can hold each others hand for support! "
Is it because you have the same date of birth I wonder?
Here's another coincidence for you ... there must be 100 booths in the Limerick centre and yet myself and hubby got vaxxed by the same nurse in the same booth (on different days)  |
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"A few months ago there were 50 to 75 deaths per day.
To put in perspective, thats 2 or 3 Omagh bombings, or 2 or 3 bl00dy Sunday Massacres daily. Now as a direct result of vaccines, there hasn't been a single death in weeks.
Even if you were guaranteed to feel very ill afterwards, I still think it's your civic duty to get vaccinated. Those who are not in a high risk catagory but still don't bother, are over-privileged freeloading sponges, no different in mentality than those who sit on the dole all their life because they couldn't be arsed contributing to society, because someone else can do it for them.
There are no deaths thanks to nature not the vaccine.
Are you serious? In the UK there were 1000K a day, now it's practically zero withing a few months. And the decline coincided directly with when they started the rollout. Do you actually think the virus just naturally went away, coincidently with when the vaccine came out? You obviously have some other agenda that is blinding you to the obvious.
Yes I do because its a seasonal virus just like the influenza it replaced
You have to be trolling.
Here the lies problem. A fact is now deemed to be trolling. People are placing a lot of trust in the same people who are now jabbing 8 month old babies with gene therapy drugs.
and yet there were no facts??
Coronavirus's are seasonal
Can you cite your sources for that information?"
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"I'm getting mine tomorrow advantages of being old. So mad though twin is in different county and has different Gp she's got her vaccine exact same time as me same place and day and my appointment no is 1 number after her appointment number! So we can hold each others hand for support!
Is it because you have the same date of birth I wonder?
Here's another coincidence for you ... there must be 100 booths in the Limerick centre and yet myself and hubby got vaxxed by the same nurse in the same booth (on different days) "
And here she is on fab....her profile name is Nurse .... |
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By *j47Man
over a year ago
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"I'm getting mine tomorrow advantages of being old. So mad though twin is in different county and has different Gp she's got her vaccine exact same time as me same place and day and my appointment no is 1 number after her appointment number! So we can hold each others hand for support!
Is it because you have the same date of birth I wonder?
Here's another coincidence for you ... there must be 100 booths in the Limerick centre and yet myself and hubby got vaxxed by the same nurse in the same booth (on different days)
And here she is on fab....her profile name is Nurse .... "
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the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life. "
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. "
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it.
and I like my amended version so much I won't be going back to the old version "
Damm no more walking around sex clubs in a bodystocking |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. "
I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it.
and I like my amended version so much I won't be going back to the old version
Damm no more walking around sex clubs in a bodystocking "
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen. "
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen. "
While I think things are finally getting back to some sort of normality which I'm thankfull for. It will be an amended normality for a while.
You have literally been saying things have to get back to normal and the people won't stand for much more for over a year... is it time to review of your outlook is in line with "the people" you speak out for? |
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"I'm getting mine tomorrow advantages of being old. So mad though twin is in different county and has different Gp she's got her vaccine exact same time as me same place and day and my appointment no is 1 number after her appointment number! So we can hold each others hand for support! "
Rosy has a twin?!?  
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it.
and I like my amended version so much I won't be going back to the old version
Damm no more walking around sex clubs in a bodystocking
Nope. Those days are gone "
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
While I think things are finally getting back to some sort of normality which I'm thankfull for. It will be an amended normality for a while.
You have literally been saying things have to get back to normal and the people won't stand for much more for over a year... is it time to review of your outlook is in line with "the people" you speak out for?"
no. things will go back to normal. were miles behind in the "normality" stakes compared to other countries but we will get there. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen. "
My issue with this is that you seem to not be considering that the vulnerable in our society are also people, and those are the ones who will literally die if we don't all continue to make (increasingly less difficult) sacrifices.
If everyone simply ignores all precautions, people will die. That may not be real to you, or maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me and thankfully most others in our country which is why we've seen such a high level of adherence to regulations.
Not everyone can simply "go back to normal" because it's a matter of life and death for them. And it's fine that the rest of us must continue to make sacrifices to protect those people and allow them to also live their lives. |
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Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
While I think things are finally getting back to some sort of normality which I'm thankfull for. It will be an amended normality for a while.
You have literally been saying things have to get back to normal and the people won't stand for much more for over a year... is it time to review of your outlook is in line with "the people" you speak out for?no. things will go back to normal. were miles behind in the "normality" stakes compared to other countries but we will get there. "
Not one person disputed that we would get there.
I don't think we are miles behind most other countries with similar death rates and vaccine rates. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong |
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Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
While I think things are finally getting back to some sort of normality which I'm thankfull for. It will be an amended normality for a while.
You have literally been saying things have to get back to normal and the people won't stand for much more for over a year... is it time to review of your outlook is in line with "the people" you speak out for?no. things will go back to normal. were miles behind in the "normality" stakes compared to other countries but we will get there.
Not one person disputed that we would get there.
I don't think we are miles behind most other countries with similar death rates and vaccine rates. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong"
Plenty of nutjobs disputed we would get there though. Saying first it's masks, then travel, etc etc. Thinking it was the start of a New regime be be continued forever.. but they are a different kettle of fish.
I don't think we are miles behind either. If anything, we are actually miles ahead in terms of keeping out citizens alive. |
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"Have the daily number of covid cases gone down since start of roll out of the vaccine? 1st thing on news before roll out they always gave numbers, now never hear about cases on any media site "
The HSE IT breach meant reporting was missing for a couple of days. The figures are still reported every day on the news. The numbers have gone down but the most noticeable thing is the age profile of new cases when they publish that. The mean age has dropped dramatically since the vaccine started rolling out. |
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"Have the daily number of covid cases gone down since start of roll out of the vaccine? 1st thing on news before roll out they always gave numbers, now never hear about cases on any media site
The HSE IT breach meant reporting was missing for a couple of days. The figures are still reported every day on the news. The numbers have gone down but the most noticeable thing is the age profile of new cases when they publish that. The mean age has dropped dramatically since the vaccine started rolling out. "
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"Have the daily number of covid cases gone down since start of roll out of the vaccine? 1st thing on news before roll out they always gave numbers, now never hear about cases on any media site "
Not much of a change. But so far only the high risk people who are generally coocooning anyway have been fully vaccinated. Now that the main people spreading the disease: people who are going to work, school, meeting friends etc and are getting vaccinated, I'd say cases will fall. There hasn't been a death in the country in aver 2 weeks though which is a great achievement. |
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"Have the daily number of covid cases gone down since start of roll out of the vaccine? 1st thing on news before roll out they always gave numbers, now never hear about cases on any media site
Not much of a change. But so far only the high risk people who are generally coocooning anyway have been fully vaccinated. Now that the main people spreading the disease: people who are going to work, school, meeting friends etc and are getting vaccinated, I'd say cases will fall. There hasn't been a death in the country in aver 2 weeks though which is a great achievement."
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Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
While I think things are finally getting back to some sort of normality which I'm thankfull for. It will be an amended normality for a while.
You have literally been saying things have to get back to normal and the people won't stand for much more for over a year... is it time to review of your outlook is in line with "the people" you speak out for?no. things will go back to normal. were miles behind in the "normality" stakes compared to other countries but we will get there.
Not one person disputed that we would get there.
I don't think we are miles behind most other countries with similar death rates and vaccine rates. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong"
I'm not talking about that at all. were a good bit behind some other countries in terms of normality, what's open , what people can do etc but as I said we will get there and return to full normality hopefully soon. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
My issue with this is that you seem to not be considering that the vulnerable in our society are also people, and those are the ones who will literally die if we don't all continue to make (increasingly less difficult) sacrifices.
If everyone simply ignores all precautions, people will die. That may not be real to you, or maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me and thankfully most others in our country which is why we've seen such a high level of adherence to regulations.
Not everyone can simply "go back to normal" because it's a matter of life and death for them. And it's fine that the rest of us must continue to make sacrifices to protect those people and allow them to also live their lives. "
so your motto, when the cohort programme is completed that people cannot go back to their normal lives that they had pre covid because the elderly might still die? do u want to continously living in the what if scenario for eg, what if this variant comes and vaccines don't work. my motto is vaccines are here, look at the positive, jab as many willing to take them and let people have the mother of all parties and resume living life like pre march last year. |
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"the reality lads is whatever happens you have to get on with life weather x y or z amount take/refuse the vaccine. there is a good chance we will have more mutations and have to live with covid like many other illnesses. it will be a while until vaccines are proven to work against all variants so you can't keep living in the what if scenario. out you go and get on with life.
Never stopped living my life. Just amended it. I mean go back to pre march 2020 life if u want. thats what has to happen.
My issue with this is that you seem to not be considering that the vulnerable in our society are also people, and those are the ones who will literally die if we don't all continue to make (increasingly less difficult) sacrifices.
If everyone simply ignores all precautions, people will die. That may not be real to you, or maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me and thankfully most others in our country which is why we've seen such a high level of adherence to regulations.
Not everyone can simply "go back to normal" because it's a matter of life and death for them. And it's fine that the rest of us must continue to make sacrifices to protect those people and allow them to also live their lives. so your motto, when the cohort programme is completed that people cannot go back to their normal lives that they had pre covid because the elderly might still die? do u want to continously living in the what if scenario for eg, what if this variant comes and vaccines don't work. my motto is vaccines are here, look at the positive, jab as many willing to take them and let people have the mother of all parties and resume living life like pre march last year. "
you cannot expect people to keep putting their life on hold when the vaccine programme is complete. as I have said numerous times. u have to live with covid but live with it doing normal things, everything that you can do in life, holiday, party travel etc etc without covid and regulations been mentioned in everything u do. thats the life most long for. |
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"Covid19 vaccine when it comes out. Will you be getting it or refusing.
Answers yes for getting bit, no for refusing!
I probably will get it, but that's my own personal preference."
How thoughtful of you! |
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"Covid19 vaccine when it comes out. Will you be getting it or refusing.
Answers yes for getting bit, no for refusing!
I probably will get it, but that's my own personal preference.
How thoughtful of you! "
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Nope ...not in a million years ..this is only my opinion but they can go f**k themselves...each to their own and all that but like l said they can go f**k. |
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"Covid19 vaccine when it comes out. Will you be getting it or refusing.
Answers yes for getting bit, no for refusing!
I probably will get it, but that's my own personal preference.
How thoughtful of you!
The least I can do in these unprecedented times. We're all in this together! I stand with nurses!"
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