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"I know this is an ongoing circle in the forums of late." But you’re going to crack on with another carbon copy thread, regardless? Mate, give it a rest. | |||
"Your profile makes you seem like a nice guy. Unfortunately some of your previous forums posts contradict this somewhat. Luckily for you OP only a small proportion if fab members use the forums so it shouldn't have too much of a negative impact for you."  | |||
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"Out of interest, OP, since you have told us you object to socials because ‘that’s not what NSA is about’, what’s going to be happening when a lady comes to ‘chill’ at yours and you’re waiting to ‘see what happens’?" | |||
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"Your profile makes you seem like a nice guy. Unfortunately some of your previous forums posts contradict this somewhat. Luckily for you OP only a small proportion if fab members use the forums so it shouldn't have too much of a negative impact for you." I think you've hit the nail on the head there. | |||
"I know this is an ongoing circle in the forums of late. I have taken advice from the community but nobody seems interested in my profile. What impression do you get from my profile? " Your profile reads ok but i would be more put off by your recent spate of forum posts... they dont show you in a good light tbh | |||
"I know this is an ongoing circle in the forums of late. But you’re going to crack on with another carbon copy thread, regardless? Mate, give it a rest." Blimey... what is it with you and your need to isolate comments ... man up and respond to the whole quote   | |||
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"Your profile makes you seem like a nice guy. Unfortunately some of your previous forums posts contradict this somewhat. Luckily for you OP only a small proportion if fab members use the forums so it shouldn't have too much of a negative impact for you. "This x10 | |||
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"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. " This | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. " I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. | |||
"I know this is an ongoing circle in the forums of late. But you’re going to crack on with another carbon copy thread, regardless? Mate, give it a rest." Why shouldn't he? It's a request for help from an individual, not like he's asking the 'do women like shaved or smooth guys' etc which will always get the same set of answers depending on who's on the forums that day. It's pretty obvious what it was going to be, I'm sure you could have easily clicked on by. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. " Maybe try a different tactic if you are recognising where you seem to be falling down then. Or don’t. Just use fab as you wish and reflect your true self as you choose to. There’s no point projecting yourself as someone you aren’t as it would be tricky to maintain when you meet people. | |||
"I know this is an ongoing circle in the forums of late. But you’re going to crack on with another carbon copy thread, regardless? Mate, give it a rest. Why shouldn't he? It's a request for help from an individual, not like he's asking the 'do women like shaved or smooth guys' etc which will always get the same set of answers depending on who's on the forums that day. It's pretty obvious what it was going to be, I'm sure you could have easily clicked on by. " Very true x | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. Maybe try a different tactic if you are recognising where you seem to be falling down then. Or don’t. Just use fab as you wish and reflect your true self as you choose to. There’s no point projecting yourself as someone you aren’t as it would be tricky to maintain when you meet people. " I don't lie about myself as I don't see the point. I have confidence and can talk casually. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. " Sadly its not the people who are coming across as a dick though. But on a positive note , less than 10% of site users regularly read the forums and fewer than that will know about the green arrowof doom | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. Maybe try a different tactic if you are recognising where you seem to be falling down then. Or don’t. Just use fab as you wish and reflect your true self as you choose to. There’s no point projecting yourself as someone you aren’t as it would be tricky to maintain when you meet people. I don't lie about myself as I don't see the point. I have confidence and can talk casually. " It’s hard work on here but it’s a challenge | |||
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"Profiles are hard to read into but status's should be self explanatory as is mine tonight . Still i get messages being dubious xx sometimes us girls just want fun xx" Your status reads that you're a lass looking for a laugh. If a guy does that then he's just a typical fab guy that doesn't care about, anything other than to get his dick wet always. And also you're guaranteed the attention as you're a lass and you're a minority. | |||
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"Initial response looks really good and sincere x" Why do you think I don't get any messages or replies then? People don't even bother opening messages. Just go straight to the profile. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. " ^^ What she said | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said "As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again. "OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging."I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue. "There is no issue it’s just a lot more woman and couples than single men. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue. "Perhaps you are the issue? | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
There is no issue it’s just a lot more woman and couples than single men. "Ultimately it does come down to basic attraction. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Perhaps you are the issue?"Maybe. This is what I'm trying to explore on my threads, but everyone just gets bombarded by people that spin words and like to take the piss for no reason. | |||
"Initial response looks really good and sincere x Why do you think I don't get any messages or replies then? People don't even bother opening messages. Just go straight to the profile. " Lots dont reply... no reply means they are not interested. They can see the first lines of your message from the yellow box in their inbox so dont need to open it. There are literally thousands of single men on here... maybe you just dont stand out in a crowd. Its fairly narcissistic to believe you are somehow different and deserve messages. You have been advised to try a local social just to get yourself known, meet and make a few friends and get verified, you have also been advised that the largest age group on here is 35 to 50 year olds, usually looking for people their own age, you also know how difficult it is for single men on here. In fact I think overall you have had more advice and help on here than any one person ever in the history of forums! Do you believe that by keep asking the same questions you might find somebody who will tell you something different and that you do want to hear? | |||
"Blimey... what is it with you and your need to isolate comments ... man up and respond to the whole quote "I could equally ask what it is with others and their inability to make it clear what exactly they’re redponding to. I’m aware that people lose track of threads when the quotes pile up into massive blocks of text. ‘Man up’? Can you explain what you think is wrong with my approach? Or how ‘manning up’ would address that? Have I quoted anyone out of context? | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue. "Part of the issue might be how you are perceived when you interact in the virtual sphere. Maybe try interacting face to face in the real world and I’m sure your natural charm and personality will win through. (but really do stop being so chippy and lighten up a squeak - advice is advice which you asked for, it’s not a personal attack). | |||
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"I've made a couple of changes to my profile. Would appreciate an opinion. " Your profile is generally fine, I'd lose the whole Daddy/Mommy thing that's just a bit weird and out of place. | |||
"Initial response looks really good and sincere x Why do you think I don't get any messages or replies then? People don't even bother opening messages. Just go straight to the profile. Lots dont reply... no reply means they are not interested. They can see the first lines of your message from the yellow box in their inbox so dont need to open it. There are literally thousands of single men on here... maybe you just dont stand out in a crowd. Its fairly narcissistic to believe you are somehow different and deserve messages. You have been advised to try a local social just to get yourself known, meet and make a few friends and get verified, you have also been advised that the largest age group on here is 35 to 50 year olds, usually looking for people their own age, you also know how difficult it is for single men on here. In fact I think overall you have had more advice and help on here than any one person ever in the history of forums! Do you believe that by keep asking the same questions you might find somebody who will tell you something different and that you do want to hear? " | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue. "Do you have a mirror? | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. I get that, but all I do is defend myself and people blow it out of proportion like they enjoy being a dick. " I think you come across fine. Many other people are much worse when they hound you, trying to get you to bite. | |||
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"I've made a couple of changes to my profile. Would appreciate an opinion. Your profile is generally fine, I'd lose the whole Daddy/Mommy thing that's just a bit weird and out of place. " Agree, it's bizarre and off-putting | |||
"I've made a couple of changes to my profile. Would appreciate an opinion. Your profile is generally fine, I'd lose the whole Daddy/Mommy thing that's just a bit weird and out of place. Agree, it's bizarre and off-putting " I agree too | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?"Why? | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal" Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. " Jumping the gun a wee bit IMO. Enjoy what situation, exactly? | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. " You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought | |||
"I've made a couple of changes to my profile. Would appreciate an opinion. Your profile is generally fine, I'd lose the whole Daddy/Mommy thing that's just a bit weird and out of place. " I didn't read beyond that. Don't see the point of it or the humour in it | |||
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"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why? "In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf. On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple. When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple. When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face. This is true for all of us. I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience. Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone. Profile advice has little value IMHO. As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you. As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community. As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking? My two pence spent. Good luck, I hope fab works out for you. | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought "I have said that the woman is cute and compliment something about her. Doesn't get anywhere. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why?
In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf.
On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple.
When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple.
When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face.
This is true for all of us.
I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience.
Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone.
Profile advice has little value IMHO.
As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you.
As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community.
As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking?
My two pence spent.
Good luck, I hope fab works out for you.
"You’re so full of wisdom 
But I agree | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought
I have said that the woman is cute and compliment something about her.
Doesn't get anywhere. "Probably because it's generic and vague and you could call just about anyone cute Ad messages should give a recipient a reason to reply. And that;s what so difficult about them | |||
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"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought
I have said that the woman is cute and compliment something about her.
Doesn't get anywhere.
Probably because it's generic and vague and you could call just about anyone cute
Ad messages should give a recipient a reason to reply. And that;s what so difficult about them"Its not like I'm gonna say that the lass is gorgeous and her ass would be amazing to slap. | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why?
In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf.
On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple.
When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple.
When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face.
This is true for all of us.
I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience.
Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone.
Profile advice has little value IMHO.
As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you.
As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community.
As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking?
My two pence spent.
Good luck, I hope fab works out for you.
You’re so full of wisdom
But I agree "Wisdom comes with age........ I'm not really the 21 it says on my profile.  | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought
I have said that the woman is cute and compliment something about her.
Doesn't get anywhere.
Probably because it's generic and vague and you could call just about anyone cute
Ad messages should give a recipient a reason to reply. And that;s what so difficult about them
Its not like I'm gonna say that the lass is gorgeous and her ass would be amazing to slap. "Was I suggesting that? | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why?
In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf.
On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple.
When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple.
When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face.
This is true for all of us.
I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience.
Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone.
Profile advice has little value IMHO.
As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you.
As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community.
As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking?
My two pence spent.
Good luck, I hope fab works out for you.
You’re so full of wisdom
But I agree
Wisdom comes with age........
I'm not really the 21 it says on my profile. "Maybe when I grow up, I’ll be just as wisdomist as you! | |||
"Personally OP, your profile doesn't seem bad... except for the "joke" adding a joke to your profile isn't what people mean by injecting humour. As your profile is ok, maybe the issue is in how you contact people. What do you say when you first message somebody? Cal Usually starts something like this and then I add something about their profile. I'm a polite mixed race guy that likes a good laugh, and will always ensure that we both enjoy the situation. You should start with a compliment to whoever you are messaging.. I hate when they start off all about the sender who then adds something about the reciever as an afterthought
I have said that the woman is cute and compliment something about her.
Doesn't get anywhere.
Probably because it's generic and vague and you could call just about anyone cute
Ad messages should give a recipient a reason to reply. And that;s what so difficult about them
Its not like I'm gonna say that the lass is gorgeous and her ass would be amazing to slap. "Those aren't the only two options though | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why?
In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf.
On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple.
When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple.
When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face.
This is true for all of us.
I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience.
Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone.
Profile advice has little value IMHO.
As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you.
As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community.
As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking?
My two pence spent.
Good luck, I hope fab works out for you.
You’re so full of wisdom
But I agree
Wisdom comes with age........
I'm not really the 21 it says on my profile.
Maybe when I grow up, I’ll be just as wisdomist as you!"You never know young Padwan..... | |||
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"I think your profile is ok. Remember there are not so many women on here as guys so we can afford to be picky and find guys who tick our most important boxes. I like a message that tells me they've read my profile and invite me to look at theirs, thus putting the ball in my court so to speak. It's nice to see a face pic especially if they don't have one on profile. 'Hi V. I've read your profile and think that I'm the man for you! Take a look at mine and if you like it lets chat' Kind of thing. " Doesn't that come across as too simple? I'm thinking too much into it. | |||
"I think your profile is ok. Remember there are not so many women on here as guys so we can afford to be picky and find guys who tick our most important boxes. I like a message that tells me they've read my profile and invite me to look at theirs, thus putting the ball in my court so to speak. It's nice to see a face pic especially if they don't have one on profile. 'Hi V. I've read your profile and think that I'm the man for you! Take a look at mine and if you like it lets chat' Kind of thing. Doesn't that come across as too simple? I'm thinking too much into it. " Yes...possibly you are. Those messages suit me. I look at a profile first and if they don't tick certain boxes my reply will be very short. I don't want a guy to go into loads of detail in a initial message, makes me feel a bit bad if I don't reply! | |||
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"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. " I'm starting to think this place may not be for you | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you " | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. " Don't fret about it. You can't be for everyone. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. " She didnt like the look of you im afraid | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. " I replied to your face pic! | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. Don't fret about it. You can't be for everyone." ^This........ I think theres a real danger that we (men) overthink this sometimes. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. Don't fret about it. You can't be for everyone." Happens a little too often though. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I replied to your face pic!" That wasn't out of attraction. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I replied to your face pic! That wasn't out of attraction. " Still replied though  | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. " I honestly think you really need to rethink what you are doing on here and what your expectations are? | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you "Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I replied to your face pic!" I chatted for fecking hours into the night without even seeing a face pic  | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar."Which we have both explained to you before
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"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar."I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice. What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I replied to your face pic! I chatted for fecking hours into the night without even seeing a face pic "As I stated. That wasn't intending on attraction. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women. "My hubby is 25, but when we got together (when he was 18) he was already extremely mature. And has gotten even more mature as he ages, and with different life experiences. I’m 21 and have many mature friends, male and female. I also know 40 year olds who are extremely immature. Everyone’s different | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
My hubby is 25, but when we got together (when he was 18) he was already extremely mature. And has gotten even more mature as he ages, and with different life experiences. I’m 21 and have many mature friends, male and female. I also know 40 year olds who are extremely immature. Everyone’s different "Fair enough. But then again I'm surrounded by students. Not many mature students about. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
My hubby is 25, but when we got together (when he was 18) he was already extremely mature. And has gotten even more mature as he ages, and with different life experiences. I’m 21 and have many mature friends, male and female. I also know 40 year olds who are extremely immature. Everyone’s different
Fair enough. But then again I'm surrounded by students. Not many mature students about. "If ya say so | |||
"The profile’s ok, nothing stand-outish either good or bad. However, as per the above, your forum contributions of late have stood out in a less than favourable light. ^^ What she said
As has been stated. Nobody really uses the forum so its not really an issue. And I'm not starting this again.
OP, you have asked for advice, which has been offered. There are also several other similar threads here, on a daily basis. So you have a choice before you. Either accept the advice offered, or you can carry on whinging.
I've been told my profile is fine and nothing is wrong with it. I'm trying to find the issue.
Do you have a mirror?
Why?
In many Japanese houses and certainly their temples they have a Kamiza, or spirit shelf.
On the Kamiza sits a Kamidana or spirit house, its like a little wooden temple.
When you have a problem the answer to that problem can be found by looking inside the temple.
When you open the doors and peer inside there will be a mirror facing out, so the second you look inside for an answer, its there, right in your face.
This is true for all of us.
I've not looked at your profile, my advice would be of no benefit to you, I am not your target audience.
Even if you took any advice offered by anyone here, you would be writing someone elses profile, not yours. And of course, what one person likes, others will not. You will never write a profile that appeals to everyone.
Profile advice has little value IMHO.
As many have said, your Forum presence may help people determine whether or not to interact with you.
As many have said, the Forum readership is a very small part of the whole community.
As you yourself said earlier, if its such a small part of the community, it doesn't matter. Which begs the question, why keep asking?
My two pence spent.
Good luck, I hope fab works out for you.
"Very wise words, Sir | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women. "Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that.... And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are! Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way. "I would and thats your view on young guys. The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life. And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young. "It’s not your age that makes you young in this situation I’m afraid. I would say yes, I’m 21, I’m young. Maturity wise? Not so much. | |||
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"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young. "That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you. And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place. "I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature. The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
"OP, I’ve explained to you how I think you’re immature. And defending yourself had nothing to do with it. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
"I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads? | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
"I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile. I have tried to get to a social but they are too far. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile.
I have tried to get to a social but they are too far. "Then take the bull by the horns and organise one yourself, local to you. There are many people out there who happily attend a group social, regardless of who organises it, how youg/old/mature/immature/handsome/ugly/fat/thin the the host is. If you really want to have more success here look to the common denominator here regarding your success, or perceived lack of it. You have to work harder on fab than many people think. If you ask for help and are given it, take it. If you ask for advice, take it. Dont keep rejecting it, or throwing it back in peoples faces, or finding excuses about why it wont work, or your not successful. I have one of the crappiest profiles on fab and some of the most dreadful pictures. Neither of these (appear to) have harmed my success. So, if its not the profile, and its not the pictures, it must be something else. Yes? | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
"I really don't recall seeing anyone dig at you. Maybe Ive missed that. Whatever, that is not why I think you are immature, Ive explained my reasons and also explained that it is just my opinion. The fact remains that you still feel you should be getting messages, meets and sex. Like you are somehow different to the 1000s of men on here? Get over it. Your profile now reads better. You cannot change how you look. You cannot change your age. You cannot make anyone fancy you. You just have to be patient now. And maybe lay off threads that will not help your history on the green arrow of doom | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile.
I have tried to get to a social but they are too far.
Then take the bull by the horns and organise one yourself, local to you.
There are many people out there who happily attend a group social, regardless of who organises it, how youg/old/mature/immature/handsome/ugly/fat/thin the the host is.
If you really want to have more success here look to the common denominator here regarding your success, or perceived lack of it.
You have to work harder on fab than many people think.
If you ask for help and are given it, take it. If you ask for advice, take it.
Dont keep rejecting it, or throwing it back in peoples faces, or finding excuses about why it wont work, or your not successful.
I have one of the crappiest profiles on fab and some of the most dreadful pictures.
Neither of these (appear to) have harmed my success.
So, if its not the profile, and its not the pictures, it must be something else. Yes?
"The difference between you and me is about 20 years. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I really don't recall seeing anyone dig at you. Maybe Ive missed that. Whatever, that is not why I think you are immature, Ive explained my reasons and also explained that it is just my opinion.
The fact remains that you still feel you should be getting messages, meets and sex. Like you are somehow different to the 1000s of men on here?
Get over it. Your profile now reads better. You cannot change how you look. You cannot change your age. You cannot make anyone fancy you. You just have to be patient now.
And maybe lay off threads that will not help your history on the green arrow of doom "Green arrow of doom? | |||
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"If you click the green arrow by your name, it shows all your forum posts, and posts you have commented on. Doesn’t give the best impression "I try to explain things from my pov but then people see it as a deflection of advice or an attack on them. | |||
"If you click the green arrow by your name, it shows all your forum posts, and posts you have commented on. Doesn’t give the best impression
I try to explain things from my pov but then people see it as a deflection of advice or an attack on them. "I don't think many would see it as an attack. Sorry, I would like to hope I am very rarely rude, I try to be honest and contribute with constructive criticism where asked for.... But bored now | |||
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"Oh dear OP, you can't change your Green Arrow status, and your profile is a bit on the "moaney" side. Good luck. " Moany side? How do you mean? | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way. "I don't think this is guy is immature at all. He's clearly frustrated by the reality of fab and the double standards on here. However because he's young that frustration automatically makes him immature? More a sign of lazy stereotyping if you ask me. | |||
"Oh dear OP, you can't change your Green Arrow status, and your profile is a bit on the "moaney" side. Good luck. Moany side? How do you mean? " Not this, not that, like this, like that.... just our thoughts, don't take it too seriously if you're happy with your profile, that's the main thing. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I don't think this is guy is immature at all. He's clearly frustrated by the reality of fab and the double standards on here. However because he's young that frustration automatically makes him immature?
More a sign of lazy stereotyping if you ask me.
"Thank you. Somebody who finally gets what I've been trying to say on here for however many posts. | |||
"Oh dear OP, you can't change your Green Arrow status, and your profile is a bit on the "moaney" side. Good luck. Moany side? How do you mean? Not this, not that, like this, like that.... just our thoughts, don't take it too seriously if you're happy with your profile, that's the main thing. " Just because I'm happy with it doesn't mean it will be successful. Thats why I'm wanting opinions on it. | |||
"Oh dear OP, you can't change your Green Arrow status, and your profile is a bit on the "moaney" side. Good luck. Moany side? How do you mean? Not this, not that, like this, like that.... just our thoughts, don't take it too seriously if you're happy with your profile, that's the main thing. Just because I'm happy with it doesn't mean it will be successful. Thats why I'm wanting opinions on it. " Are you happy with it? Does it reflect you? That is all that matters There is no magic formula on a profile, no way of guaranteeing success. Write a profile that reflects you. Send messages that reflect you and that way when people take an interest it is YOU that they are interested. A profile that you write because you think it will be successful is never going to work | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I don't think this is guy is immature at all. He's clearly frustrated by the reality of fab and the double standards on here. However because he's young that frustration automatically makes him immature?
More a sign of lazy stereotyping if you ask me.
"I agree. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile.
I have tried to get to a social but they are too far.
Then take the bull by the horns and organise one yourself, local to you.
There are many people out there who happily attend a group social, regardless of who organises it, how youg/old/mature/immature/handsome/ugly/fat/thin the the host is.
If you really want to have more success here look to the common denominator here regarding your success, or perceived lack of it.
You have to work harder on fab than many people think.
If you ask for help and are given it, take it. If you ask for advice, take it.
Dont keep rejecting it, or throwing it back in peoples faces, or finding excuses about why it wont work, or your not successful.
I have one of the crappiest profiles on fab and some of the most dreadful pictures.
Neither of these (appear to) have harmed my success.
So, if its not the profile, and its not the pictures, it must be something else. Yes?
The difference between you and me is about 20 years. "Those 20 years, they're not the difference between us. | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile.
I have tried to get to a social but they are too far.
Then take the bull by the horns and organise one yourself, local to you.
There are many people out there who happily attend a group social, regardless of who organises it, how youg/old/mature/immature/handsome/ugly/fat/thin the the host is.
If you really want to have more success here look to the common denominator here regarding your success, or perceived lack of it.
You have to work harder on fab than many people think.
If you ask for help and are given it, take it. If you ask for advice, take it.
Dont keep rejecting it, or throwing it back in peoples faces, or finding excuses about why it wont work, or your not successful.
I have one of the crappiest profiles on fab and some of the most dreadful pictures.
Neither of these (appear to) have harmed my success.
So, if its not the profile, and its not the pictures, it must be something else. Yes?
The difference between you and me is about 20 years.
Those 20 years, they're not the difference between us."What is then? | |||
"Sends a lass a message, gets a reply back asking for a face pic. Sends the pic and gets ignored. Doesn't feel good ladies. I'm starting to think this place may not be for you
Only just starting?
OP you will not be attractive to everyone. Surely you understand that? Given your age and the ages of the larger proportion of the female membership, the fact that you really do not look your age (lucky you... in 20 years time you will see that as a blessing!) the younger ladies on here tend to go for older looking, more mature and experienced men and the older ladies are likely to have children nearing your age. You are not going to find it easy and quite frankly why should you? There are lots of older, more mature, fitter, more experienced young men on here... what makes you so entitled to messages, meets or sex?
If you really cannot handle the truth this is not the site for you im afraid, stick to tinder or the uni bar.
I understand that women and couples are the minority, but a no thank you would have been nice.
What 23 year old is actually mature? I see plenty and they are far from it. Even the women.
Honestly? You don't strike me as somebody that would just accept a "no thank you", you would want to know why and then would try to get around that....
And LOTS of 23 year olds are very mature, my son is nearly 22, has been a serving soldier since he turned 16, is married has a house and a child. 23 is not THAT young. YOU are!
Maybe you feel mature enough but sadly you do not come across that way.
I would and thats your view on young guys.
The reason he's mature is because the army matured him. Not life.
And its pretty contradictory to say 23yo aren't young and call me young.
That certainly isnt my opinion on young guys.... I have had many younger men than you, indeed we are still friends with several. I maintain 23 is just a number and many 23 year olds and younger look, act, behave, conduct themselves in a far more mature manner than you.
And as for the army maturing him.... he needed to be mature enough at 16 to join in the first place.
I would've joined the paras at 16 if I wouldn't have been allergic too bee stings. And they saw me as plenty mature.
The only reason you think I am immature on here is due to the fact that I won't just let people dig at me. Thats human nature not immaturity.
I don't think it's that. I think it;s because you ask for advice and then dismiss it. You don;lt understand how swinging works, the other day you were telling people your opinion on socials, now you are once again asking for advice getting meets. Can you see the correlation between the 2 threads?
I don't dismiss advice. Case and point my profile.
I have tried to get to a social but they are too far.
Then take the bull by the horns and organise one yourself, local to you.
There are many people out there who happily attend a group social, regardless of who organises it, how youg/old/mature/immature/handsome/ugly/fat/thin the the host is.
If you really want to have more success here look to the common denominator here regarding your success, or perceived lack of it.
You have to work harder on fab than many people think.
If you ask for help and are given it, take it. If you ask for advice, take it.
Dont keep rejecting it, or throwing it back in peoples faces, or finding excuses about why it wont work, or your not successful.
I have one of the crappiest profiles on fab and some of the most dreadful pictures.
Neither of these (appear to) have harmed my success.
So, if its not the profile, and its not the pictures, it must be something else. Yes?
The difference between you and me is about 20 years.
Those 20 years, they're not the difference between us.
What is then? "I listen, evaluate and understand. I look inwardly. I expect nothing. | |||
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"Profiles are hard to read into but status's should be self explanatory as is mine tonight . Still i get messages being dubious xx sometimes us girls just want fun xx Your status reads that you're a lass looking for a laugh. If a guy does that then he's just a typical fab guy that doesn't care about, anything other than to get his dick wet always. And also you're guaranteed the attention as you're a lass and you're a minority. " Believe me hun , us girls seem subdued but there is a will inside to have fun xx | |||
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