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By *edonistsatplay OP Couple
over a year ago
Portsmouth, North Brittany, France |
Can I throw a new question onto the floor??
I've been trying to find out any kind of details about what's going to happen to the folk (me!) who work throughout the EU after the exit (hard or otherwise!) Can't find any info anywhere and the local officialdom just give the Gaelic shrug, they know bugger all as well!
At the moment my EU-UK passport is still usable but I also have a French permanent residents visa... sooooo the question I've been trying to get (unsuccessfully) answered is...
As my UK passport will no longer be 'European' but my carte de sejour says that I am a "citoyen UE/EEE/Suisse" will I still be able to work??
My company is in Marseille but I work allllll over the place and if that is drawn to an abrupt stop........  |
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"Can I throw a new question onto the floor??
I've been trying to find out any kind of details about what's going to happen to the folk (me!) who work throughout the EU after the exit (hard or otherwise!) Can't find any info anywhere and the local officialdom just give the Gaelic shrug, they know bugger all as well!
At the moment my EU-UK passport is still usable but I also have a French permanent residents visa... sooooo the question I've been trying to get (unsuccessfully) answered is...
As my UK passport will no longer be 'European' but my carte de sejour says that I am a "citoyen UE/EEE/Suisse" will I still be able to work??
My company is in Marseille but I work allllll over the place and if that is drawn to an abrupt stop........ "
Can I suggest you join RIFT (Remain in France Together), on Facebook. The situation is that you will be ok to work in UK and in France but othe EU countries may be difficult! However, your Carte de Sejour may allow you to work in Shengen as your visa for France covers shengen. As your head office is in France then you should be ok for temporary work - but it's complicated. Perhaps an email to your local MP in your UK constituency may be able to help. If you have registered with the British Embassy in Paris they send masses of information to you on all sorts of subjects. Bonne chance! |
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By *edonistsatplay OP Couple
over a year ago
Portsmouth, North Brittany, France |
Yeah, I don't facetwitterblog book I'm afraid..
No one seems to know what the answer is and whether I'm covered working in the other EU states or not, guess it's another one of those 'things' on the list to be sorted out by the various parties involved.
We've been over here way too long to have any idea who our MP would be - more than 15 years which also means we don't get to vote on any decisions made (should that come to fruition)
c'est la vie
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Your carte de Séjour alliés youbto live and work in France. French govt has said all Brits should get one. Technically after Brexit we won’t be EU citizens, but French govt has said they will honour the Carte de Sejour ; And will decide if they need to replace it with something different in due course.
In terms of work in other EU countries; no: we revert to the schengen rules for non-EU citizens; that means to work in other EU countries you will need a work visa for each country . And apart from your country of residence you can only visit another schengen country for 90 days. And then you can’t return until after another 90 days.
Some countries may give a year long work visa; others will only give it for a specific period. I work in 9 different EU countries, normally for a week or so at a time. That may mean I need 40 visas a year. ( I am self employed)
If you are employed By a company; they should get the work visas for you.
Best thing to do is to apply for french citizenship ( you need to be resident for 5 years before you can request it) . That’s what I am doing. |
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Thanks to the efficiency of the conservatives in agreeing the exit deal the real answer at the moment is that nobody yet knows what our situation will be.
Lots of speculation but nothing yet firm on paper.
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"Your carte de Séjour alliés youbto live and work in France. French govt has said all Brits should get one. Technically after Brexit we won’t be EU citizens, but French govt has said they will honour the Carte de Sejour ; And will decide if they need to replace it with something different in due course.
In terms of work in other EU countries; no: we revert to the schengen rules for non-EU citizens; that means to work in other EU countries you will need a work visa for each country . And apart from your country of residence you can only visit another schengen country for 90 days. And then you can’t return until after another 90 days.
Some countries may give a year long work visa; others will only give it for a specific period. I work in 9 different EU countries, normally for a week or so at a time. That may mean I need 40 visas a year. ( I am self employed)
If you are employed By a company; they should get the work visas for you.
Best thing to do is to apply for french citizenship ( you need to be resident for 5 years before you can request it) . That’s what I am doing. "
with regards French citizenship I know someone who's been in France for 28 of her 29 on earth. She got turned down! She's appealing but ..... |
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By *edonistsatplay OP Couple
over a year ago
Portsmouth, North Brittany, France |
Most of my work is a week here, a week or two there, kinda thing. I wonder if, as I am technically employed by a French company, if I remain employed by them even although I may be physically working for them elsewhere..!?!
I have considered getting French citizenship (as Darling Daughter is now doing) but I fear my written French isn't of the required standard... i.e. it sucks! 
Ahhh the delights of being caught in the middle of a political web!!  |
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over a year ago
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We became French 3 years ago after two years of going through the naturalisation procedure, here’s what we had to do:
1. Get the documents (formulaires) from the prefecture.
2. Prove that we were currently employed in France.
3. Prove we’d been living continuously in France for at least 5 years.
4. Prove we had sufficient retirement provision.
5. Get originals of birth, death, marriage and divorce certificates for ourselves, children, parents and grandparents in English (not all applied, we’re still alive).
6. Get those documents translated into French by an approved translator.
7. Prove that we were up to date with all our tax payments (we had to do this 3 times during the process).
8. Sit the French test TF1 in which we listened to a recording of people speaking in French and mark the correct answer on the multiple-choice sheet.
9. Pay the appropriate fee.
10. Prove we didn’t have a criminal record.
11. Have an unannounced visit from the police who made sure we lived where we said and that we weren’t using the house for any criminal activity and have the neighbours vouch for us.
12. Have an interview at the prefecture where the lady checked our feeling on the woman’s place in society, the workings of the French government, religion, current affairs etc.
13. Sing the Marseillaise and vow allegiance to France, accepting to fight for the country if necessary.
That’s all we can remember but there were other things as well, it was a gruelling process and cost about a thousand Euros each. Naturalisation is not a formality, its an in depth investigation but we’re glad we did it, we’ve lived in France for 18 years.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We became French 3 years ago after two years of going through the naturalisation procedure, here’s what we had to do:
1. Get the documents (formulaires) from the prefecture.
2. Prove that we were currently employed in France.
3. Prove we’d been living continuously in France for at least 5 years.
4. Prove we had sufficient retirement provision.
5. Get originals of birth, death, marriage and divorce certificates for ourselves, children, parents and grandparents in English (not all applied, we’re still alive).
6. Get those documents translated into French by an approved translator.
7. Prove that we were up to date with all our tax payments (we had to do this 3 times during the process).
8. Sit the French test TF1 in which we listened to a recording of people speaking in French and mark the correct answer on the multiple-choice sheet.
9. Pay the appropriate fee.
10. Prove we didn’t have a criminal record.
11. Have an unannounced visit from the police who made sure we lived where we said and that we weren’t using the house for any criminal activity and have the neighbours vouch for us.
12. Have an interview at the prefecture where the lady checked our feeling on the woman’s place in society, the workings of the French government, religion, current affairs etc.
13. Sing the Marseillaise and vow allegiance to France, accepting to fight for the country if necessary.
That’s all we can remember but there were other things as well, it was a gruelling process and cost about a thousand Euros each. Naturalisation is not a formality, its an in depth investigation but we’re glad we did it, we’ve lived in France for 18 years.
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Bravo!
It's something that has been suggested to us. I am half German so that's an option we are looking at. We just went for our CdS (active) which cost us 1400€ in translation costs! Hey it's only money lol but we have to keep moving forward. |
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By *edonistsatplay OP Couple
over a year ago
Portsmouth, North Brittany, France |
Darling daughter started her procedure to 'turn' French last year once the results of the referendum were announced.
As she has passed through the French educational system it wasn't a problem, but apparently (although I stand [sit!] to be corrected) they have changed it somewhat over the past few years.. and, as you have pointed out, it isn't the cheapest of options!
Our visas will be ok in the short term, I'm guessing that it will serve for work over the 2 years of the changeover, but guess we will have to toddle of to the prefecture and ask (again!!)
Merci bien a touts!!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am currently going through the process to gain dual nationality.
Sat the French test, have the documents from the UK to prove I not a criminal and getting my birth, marriage certificate etc. translated (they were before but over two years ago so this needs to be done again!).
Once I have all this I will send it to the Prefecture and ....wait. |
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