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"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. " that’s the assumption I make on here too | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. " Ummmm... no, it doesn't. | |||
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"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. that’s the assumption I make on here too" Same, if safe sex is not ticked then our assumption also | |||
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"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. " Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... " And that's why you shouldn't trust anyone on this site. No one practices what they preach, no one is who they say they are, yes the old I'm straight but shags men and trans but still believe they're straight. Single means in a relationship but they dont know about it....the list unfortunately goes on and on and on. | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... " Always surprises me how all ticked interests are seen as interests but "safe sex" as a requirement. 
Unless there's something specifically said in the profile regarding safe sex - it is only an interest along with others. Now how many expect to have all ticked interests happening during the meet?
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"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... Always surprises me how all ticked interests are seen as interests but "safe sex" as a requirement.
Unless there's something specifically said in the profile regarding safe sex - it is only an interest along with others. Now how many expect to have all ticked interests happening during the meet?
Mrs"It’s really not just an “interest” from my perspective. It’s a non negotiable subject for me. | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... Always surprises me how all ticked interests are seen as interests but "safe sex" as a requirement.
Unless there's something specifically said in the profile regarding safe sex - it is only an interest along with others. Now how many expect to have all ticked interests happening during the meet?
Mrs
It’s really not just an “interest” from my perspective. It’s a non negotiable subject for me. "It's listed as an "interest". How do you separate which ones are just interests and which ones are the requirements then? Or is everything listed a requirement? Mrs | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... Always surprises me how all ticked interests are seen as interests but "safe sex" as a requirement.
Unless there's something specifically said in the profile regarding safe sex - it is only an interest along with others. Now how many expect to have all ticked interests happening during the meet?
Mrs
It’s really not just an “interest” from my perspective. It’s a non negotiable subject for me.
It's listed as an "interest". How do you separate which ones are just interests and which ones are the requirements then? Or is everything listed a requirement?
Mrs"Because to me safe sex isn’t negotiable ever. I value my health far too much. | |||
We all have our own preferences, if it isn't for you then move on to the next profile &/or thread, politely, | |||
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"Following the way this thread has gone I've rushed off to tick safe sex on my profile. Someone asked why would someone not tick it. I didn't previously because myself and my normal partner still hope to have another child and safe sex somewhat prevents that. I wasnt referring solely to on here when I didn't tick.it originally and I've never had a situation on here where a meet hasn't practised it." But thought that box referrers to swinginging preference  | |||
"Following the way this thread has gone I've rushed off to tick safe sex on my profile. Someone asked why would someone not tick it. I didn't previously because myself and my normal partner still hope to have another child and safe sex somewhat prevents that. I wasnt referring solely to on here when I didn't tick.it originally and I've never had a situation on here where a meet hasn't practised it. But thought that box referrers to swinginging preference "Genuinely not how I saw it. Believed it to be asking if i always practised it which clearly i dont. I wouldn't put myself and my partner at risk by not doing so outside of us. As I said. I've stood corrected now and amended my tick.boxes. Not that anyone pays attention to them anyway as I'm constantly asked if I will do things that aren't ticked on mine. | |||
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"A bareback option in the interest section would make very little difference imo. Those ones who celebrate bareback have it spelled out on their profile. The bit more hidden ones leave the safe sex unticked and then you have closet barebackers and the bareback chancers who tick the safe sex box and would never admit it. Not sure where those ones with no interests come in. "Agree, would be clearer | |||
"On fabguys.com "bareback" is one of the Interest options. I really think this is needed as a fabswingers option. That would save me having to answer countless messages from guys who presume they'll get to cum inside Alice. I love this site. But sometimes it feels like it's full of 14-year old boys! " Frankly it would be pointless, you'd still get them wanting to fill Alice, just use it as a filter. I don't bother with any of the "interests" now as most guys seem to use it as a catalogue of what they were definitely going to get should they get to meet me. | |||
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"It's probably far less confusing to actually talk about it with those you intend to meet " I agree with that totally. Those I have met it's always come up in conversation making a few tick boxes irrelevant. I've had plenty contact me who have safe sex ticked yet their first question is will you do bareback | |||
"A bareback option in the interest section would make very little difference imo. Those ones who celebrate bareback have it spelled out on their profile. The bit more hidden ones leave the safe sex unticked and then you have closet barebackers and the bareback chancers who tick the safe sex box and would never admit it." I think it would make some difference. If it was an option, then the "closet barebackers" and "chancers" could more easily identify people on the site with the same interest. They can search using that interest as a marker. They wouldn't then need to send messages to people asking if they bareback or not, and would be more likely to stick to messaging people they know do. I still don't understand why Fabguys has the option and Fabswingers doesn't. | |||
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"Safe sex not showing up as a interest is definitely without a doubt a bareback fuck willing user "It isnt though as said previously I'd never fuck anyone but my partner bareback but because of that I hadn't previously ticked it. It didn't mean I'd fuck anyone bare back especially not off here | |||
"Safe sex not showing up as a interest is definitely without a doubt a bareback fuck willing user
It isnt though as said previously I'd never fuck anyone but my partner bareback but because of that I hadn't previously ticked it. It didn't mean I'd fuck anyone bare back especially not off here"well it's the impression that you are giving most users on here | |||
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"On fabguys.com "bareback" is one of the Interest options. I really think this is needed as a fabswingers option. That would save me having to answer countless messages from guys who presume they'll get to cum inside Alice. I love this site. But sometimes it feels like it's full of 14-year old boys! " With no social skills.. Yup sounds like my inbox | |||
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"On fabguys.com "bareback" is one of the Interest options. I really think this is needed as a fabswingers option. That would save me having to answer countless messages from guys who presume they'll get to cum inside Alice. I love this site. But sometimes it feels like it's full of 14-year old boys! With no social skills.. Yup sounds like my inbox "lol  | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. " So many do tick safe fun, but don't. They want to be seen as political correct. Each to there own I say, just be honest. | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. " Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try  | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try "You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try
You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme "Ha ha Nice one, nice as nice as your pics. Wow | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try
You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme
Ha ha Nice one, nice as nice as your pics. Wow "As wellinever said talk like grown ups , even 40 plus can sound like sixteen year olds lol | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try
You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme
Ha ha Nice one, nice as nice as your pics. Wow "Thank you  | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try
You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme
Ha ha Nice one, nice as nice as your pics. Wow
Thank you "Agreed Fipeter lovely as in sexy underwear lovely pictures lovely dresses lovely outlook | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Sage sex, thats new. Any other herbs we can try
You can think of a few I've you've the Thyme
Ha ha Nice one, nice as nice as your pics. Wow
Thank you Agreed Fipeter lovely as in sexy underwear lovely pictures lovely dresses lovely outlook "How lovely of you to say  | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. " Why wouldn't you tick it though? Unless you didn't want safe sex? | |||
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"I think a lot of people tick safe sex but would go bare back as well, it’s all a bit flakey. Best thing is to put it in a message early in a conversation that condoms are compulsory " I don't tick that box but as adults it's open to discussion with everyone , I personally find that they hinder spontaneous sexual relations and I'm happy to not bother with penetration and do all the other wonderful things that's out there and still be smiling, No condoms over my brandy glass !!!!! | |||
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"The thing with the tick boxes is it's so easy to just tick the ones that will show you as an 'enlightened' individual but have absolutely no guarantee that it's the truth. Writing 'No Glove no Love' or 'I value my health too much' or '100% safe sex and no exceptions' etc etc on a profile is nothing more than words and literally no guarantee of anything. None of us has a clue what those we play with get up to at other times which is why using common sense is the best tool on here. " You are right, you have no guarantee what anybody does apart from yourself. Which is why I personally use common sense to minimise risk (and that’s why I avoid anyone I consider may play bareback with others) and why when I say I make no exceptions I mean it. | |||
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"I think the idea of having essential and non-essential items could be quite useful." | |||
"The thing with the tick boxes is it's so easy to just tick the ones that will show you as an 'enlightened' individual but have absolutely no guarantee that it's the truth. Writing 'No Glove no Love' or 'I value my health too much' or '100% safe sex and no exceptions' etc etc on a profile is nothing more than words and literally no guarantee of anything. None of us has a clue what those we play with get up to at other times which is why using common sense is the best tool on here. " Perhaps I have not expressed myself properly. Some couples or individuals DO want bareback and they would be free to specify that. Then, with the advanced search, I would hope that I could exclude them. Obviously, it would not uncover those who were lying. | |||
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"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. " But some people will do both so I agree with the OP, give an option to highlight bareback! | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. But some people will do both so I agree with the OP, give an option to highlight bareback!" Nothing is guaranteed, we know of safesex ticked yet when met they actually have never used a condom at all. Safesex obviously varies to interpretation, one foot on the floor for balance, not whilst driving maybe, the mind boggles  | |||
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"Does anybody still actually go bareback still , we have spoken about it before " Its a choice between the Adults you meet ( box ticked or not ) You chat about what you want and with whom , maybe with your fun buddy it's bare but with new meets you might want the glove , Or you may just enjoy call only | |||
"Perhaps an alternative way to look at it is that if someone decides to not tick safe sex they are “interested” in bareback. And that allows me to make the informed decision they are not for me. After all why else would you not tick it? Sadly I don’t get to decide exactly how my profile is laid out just like everyone else we’ve got to work with what we’ve got on this site. " And that is entirely the OP's point!! | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... Always surprises me how all ticked interests are seen as interests but "safe sex" as a requirement.
Unless there's something specifically said in the profile regarding safe sex - it is only an interest along with others. Now how many expect to have all ticked interests happening during the meet?
Mrs
It’s really not just an “interest” from my perspective. It’s a non negotiable subject for me. "As I always actually try to chat to people who I hope to meet beforehand surely this is discussed early on? My assumption is any meet will always be with condoms unless you're specifically given permission or requested to do otherwise ? Sorry I've only been here for a few years now and getting on a bit so maybe the younger members take a different view? | |||
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"On fabguys.com "bareback" is one of the Interest options. I really think this is needed as a fabswingers option. That would save me having to answer countless messages from guys who presume they'll get to cum inside Alice.I think its because your bi and lads tend to think that bi husbands like to clean up after they finished with your wife I love this site. But sometimes it feels like it's full of 14-year old boys! " | |||
"On fabguys.com "bareback" is one of the Interest options. I really think this is needed as a fabswingers option. That would save me having to answer countless messages from guys who presume they'll get to cum inside Alice.I think its because your bi and lads tend to think that bi husbands like to clean up after they finished with your wife I love this site. But sometimes it feels like it's full of 14-year old boys! " | |||
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"To do this properly, I think we should have 6 separate categories covering oral, anal and vaginal sex both with and without condoms. And yes, it's legit to tick both boxes for one category if, for example, you prefer bareback but don't mind condoms. Safe(r) sex does not necessarily mean you don't bareback. Bareback while on correctly taken PrEP is less than half of the HIV risk of relying on condoms. Everything else that's a risk from anal or vaginal sex can either be vaccinated against, or is something you could just as easily pick up from unprotected oral." There’s no vaccine against most STD’s and STI’s and whilst yes it is possible for them to be transmitted via oral without, oral transmission is the least likely AND why would you risk further exposure to the particular nastiest like gonorrhoea or syphilis by exposing yourself via oral AND vaginally / anally? | |||
But each to they own | |||
"There’s no vaccine against most STD’s and STI’s and whilst yes it is possible for them to be transmitted via oral without, oral transmission is the least likely AND why would you risk further exposure to the particular nastiest like gonorrhoea or syphilis by exposing yourself via oral AND vaginally / anally?" I think you'll find both syphilis and gonorrhoea spread readily through oral sex, so I stand by the comments I made earlier. Of course if you have condomless oral followed by oral or anal with a condom then you're at lower overall risk than if you didn't use a condom for either, simply because you have engaged in one fewer higher risk sexual acts. But don't kid yourself that you're safe because you only do oral without a condom. The two that you specifically mention can be treated with antibiotics (yes, even drug resistant gonorrhoea can be treated with the right antibiotics.) Neither of them will do you any long term damage as long as they are caught reasonably early and treated. If you're playing this game and you have any sense, you get tested regularly. If you get a positive result, you take the medication, abstain from sex until you're clear, and you inform as many sexual partners as possible, so that they can do the same. That's irrespective of whether you use condoms and what for. If you're non-monogamous, this is basic common sense. Condoms reduce rather than eliminate risk. There's no such thing as safe sex, only safer sex. People seem to treat catching a perfectly curable STI as though it's the end of the world. Yet the only real difference between it and a stomach bug is the stigma of having caught it through sex. Shigella is a perfect example of this, because it gets to be both: if caught sexually (e.g. through rimming) it gets treated as a disgusting sex disease. Yet there are plenty of other ways to catch it, including from a door handle used by someone who didn't wash their hands properly after going to the toilet. Syphilis and gonorrhoea are not the end of the world. HIV and Hepatitis B are the life changing ones that you're actually likely to catch through sex. And we have PrEP (at least twice as safe as condoms) and a vaccine for those. | |||
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"We think having both options would be better and clearer. Jessica prefers to play bareback, but she'll play safe too, so assuming she won't because she hasn't ticked Safe Sex isn't true. If we could select both then it's clearer that either way is fine." I know if I met with you I would most definitely be ticking the bareback option  | |||
"There’s no vaccine against most STD’s and STI’s and whilst yes it is possible for them to be transmitted via oral without, oral transmission is the least likely AND why would you risk further exposure to the particular nastiest like gonorrhoea or syphilis by exposing yourself via oral AND vaginally / anally? I think you'll find both syphilis and gonorrhoea spread readily through oral sex, so I stand by the comments I made earlier. Of course if you have condomless oral followed by oral or anal with a condom then you're at lower overall risk than if you didn't use a condom for either, simply because you have engaged in one fewer higher risk sexual acts. But don't kid yourself that you're safe because you only do oral without a condom. The two that you specifically mention can be treated with antibiotics (yes, even drug resistant gonorrhoea can be treated with the right antibiotics.) Neither of them will do you any long term damage as long as they are caught reasonably early and treated. If you're playing this game and you have any sense, you get tested regularly. If you get a positive result, you take the medication, abstain from sex until you're clear, and you inform as many sexual partners as possible, so that they can do the same. That's irrespective of whether you use condoms and what for. If you're non-monogamous, this is basic common sense. Condoms reduce rather than eliminate risk. There's no such thing as safe sex, only safer sex. People seem to treat catching a perfectly curable STI as though it's the end of the world. Yet the only real difference between it and a stomach bug is the stigma of having caught it through sex. Shigella is a perfect example of this, because it gets to be both: if caught sexually (e.g. through rimming) it gets treated as a disgusting sex disease. Yet there are plenty of other ways to catch it, including from a door handle used by someone who didn't wash their hands properly after going to the toilet. Syphilis and gonorrhoea are not the end of the world. HIV and Hepatitis B are the life changing ones that you're actually likely to catch through sex. And we have PrEP (at least twice as safe as condoms) and a vaccine for those." Ok first things first... I never once discussed treatment with antibiotics. You were talking about a vaccine. That’s entirely different! I never said oral without wasn’t without risk. But the chance of transmission is at its highest via anal sex, then vaginal, then oral. And you make exactly the point I said. That engaging in all 3 without puts you at a significantly higher risk of infection. But mostly, if you genuinely think treatment after you’ve caught something is the right way to deal with the risk of sexually transmitted infections and diseases?! Wow. I’m speechless. We clearly have very very different opinions on the correct way to deal with risks in these situations so I’ll be leaving this conversation here. | |||
"If you dont tick sage sex then that means you only fuck bareback. Ummmm... no, it doesn't. Nor does Safe Sex mean condoms, lost count the women on here who have contacted me, when the subject of a meet comes up...you get...I want it bareback.. even tho' they have safe sex ticked... " And the guys who tick safe sex, but openly display bareback pics | |||
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"There’s no vaccine against most STD’s and STI’s and whilst yes it is possible for them to be transmitted via oral without, oral transmission is the least likely AND why would you risk further exposure to the particular nastiest like gonorrhoea or syphilis by exposing yourself via oral AND vaginally / anally? I think you'll find both syphilis and gonorrhoea spread readily through oral sex, so I stand by the comments I made earlier. Of course if you have condomless oral followed by oral or anal with a condom then you're at lower overall risk than if you didn't use a condom for either, simply because you have engaged in one fewer higher risk sexual acts. But don't kid yourself that you're safe because you only do oral without a condom. The two that you specifically mention can be treated with antibiotics (yes, even drug resistant gonorrhoea can be treated with the right antibiotics.) Neither of them will do you any long term damage as long as they are caught reasonably early and treated. If you're playing this game and you have any sense, you get tested regularly. If you get a positive result, you take the medication, abstain from sex until you're clear, and you inform as many sexual partners as possible, so that they can do the same. That's irrespective of whether you use condoms and what for. If you're non-monogamous, this is basic common sense. Condoms reduce rather than eliminate risk. There's no such thing as safe sex, only safer sex. People seem to treat catching a perfectly curable STI as though it's the end of the world. Yet the only real difference between it and a stomach bug is the stigma of having caught it through sex. Shigella is a perfect example of this, because it gets to be both: if caught sexually (e.g. through rimming) it gets treated as a disgusting sex disease. Yet there are plenty of other ways to catch it, including from a door handle used by someone who didn't wash their hands properly after going to the toilet. Syphilis and gonorrhoea are not the end of the world. HIV and Hepatitis B are the life changing ones that you're actually likely to catch through sex. And we have PrEP (at least twice as safe as condoms) and a vaccine for those. Ok first things first... I never once discussed treatment with antibiotics. You were talking about a vaccine. That’s entirely different! I never said oral without wasn’t without risk. But the chance of transmission is at its highest via anal sex, then vaginal, then oral. And you make exactly the point I said. That engaging in all 3 without puts you at a significantly higher risk of infection. But mostly, if you genuinely think treatment after you’ve caught something is the right way to deal with the risk of sexually transmitted infections and diseases?! Wow. I’m speechless. We clearly have very very different opinions on the correct way to deal with risks in these situations so I’ll be leaving this conversation here. " I just don't see how anyone can be into the swinging lifestyle and then get on their high horse about other people's risk taking behaviours. Not when the only 'safe sex' is abstinence or true monogamy (after testing.) We all get to find our balance of risk vs reward in this.The only person I'll condemn is someone who continues to have sex while knowingly infectious. You've not mentioned antibiotics. You've conveniently ignored them, and are now trying to side-step the issue. I'm bringing them into the discussion, where they rightly belong. PrEP, regular testing, and treatment where needed, is a valid strategy against most STI's. I'd say someone who uses condoms but never, ever gets tested is being more reckless with their own and other people's health than someone who gets vaccinated, correctly uses PrEP, and gets screened for everything possible every 3 months. Furthermore, the NHS staff who do the screenings agree that this is a more responsible attitude than assuming condoms worked, and not bothering to get regularly tested. But by all means carry on having unprotected oral and thinking you won't catch or pass on anything. Just don't fall off that horse. | |||
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"This us assuming that most people read the profile! Back to the comment of sage or safe sex what do you think that relates to? " To lots think it whilst not driving | |||
