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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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An idea for a new feature which might add some additional richness and fun to the site, but let's see what people (and admin) think about it. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to explain it properly...
We're all familiar with the Wink feature. My idea is add a new option to Wink which gives the Winker (the one sending the wink) the option to grant temporary access to their private gallery.
For example: I see a profile I like the look of. I click on the usual 'send a wink' button and two options are presented: (a) Send a wink without a Private Peek (b) Send a wink with a Private Peek.
If I choose option (a) the regular wink is sent. If I choose option (b) the wink is sent and the receiving profile is granted temporary access to my private gallery. The profile user can now click on my private gallery and view my pics. (temporary access could be implemented as either a 'one-time only' access or 'time limited', eg access for 24 hours from the first time it's viewed).
The option could be limited to verified and/or site supporter users, if that was considered the best way to go.
I see two principal benefits:
- Make winks more interesting and useful, while maintaining general privacy for the winker
- Potentially reduce the number of unsolicited friend invitations (assuming that at least some of these are sent because the sender wants someone to see their private pics rather than just perve others - hard to know)
Anyway, that's the gist. What do others think? (I won't be upset if you hate it)  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"An idea for a new feature which might add some additional richness and fun to the site, but let's see what people (and admin) think about it. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to explain it properly...
We're all familiar with the Wink feature. My idea is add a new option to Wink which gives the Winker (the one sending the wink) the option to grant temporary access to their private gallery.
For example: I see a profile I like the look of. I click on the usual 'send a wink' button and two options are presented: (a) Send a wink without a Private Peek (b) Send a wink with a Private Peek.
If I choose option (a) the regular wink is sent. If I choose option (b) the wink is sent and the receiving profile is granted temporary access to my private gallery. The profile user can now click on my private gallery and view my pics. (temporary access could be implemented as either a 'one-time only' access or 'time limited', eg access for 24 hours from the first time it's viewed).
The option could be limited to verified and/or site supporter users, if that was considered the best way to go.
I see two principal benefits:
- Make winks more interesting and useful, while maintaining general privacy for the winker
- Potentially reduce the number of unsolicited friend invitations (assuming that at least some of these are sent because the sender wants someone to see their private pics rather than just perve others - hard to know)
Anyway, that's the gist. What do others think? (I won't be upset if you hate it) "
Its a good idea if the option to op out of it is allowed. Our private pictures are just that, private accessible to our friends who apart from one or two people we have met. Great idea though and I hope admin either take you up on the idea or a variation of it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Its a good idea if the option to opt out of it is allowed. Our private pictures are just that, private accessible to our friends"
Thanks. Maintaining privacy is vital, I agree. If the idea were implemented as described, there wouldn't be any opt-in or opt-out, and users' picture privacy would remain exactly the same as it is now, without any action on their part. The only user experience change would be that the wink sender would see a new option, and the wink receiver would begin to get winks giving them the opportunity to look at the sender's private pics (without disclosing their own, of course). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think a brilliant idea but perhaps showing friend only pics not private pics"
Yes, thanks. I should have made it clear that I'm talking about the pics in the private gallery (as viewable by friends), not the private pics no-one can see. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think a brilliant idea but perhaps showing friend only pics not private pics
Yes, thanks. I should have made it clear that I'm talking about the pics in the private gallery (as viewable by friends), not the private pics no-one can see."
Sounds like a great idea. Hopefully admin will be able to make it happen. It would certainly be a very useful feature. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
A"
 I would certainly opt out if this feature was introduced. I chose the few people I add to my friends list very carefully as my face picture is in my friends only album. There is no way I'd want someone who'd only winked at me to see them.
I live in a very rural area and I like to keep this part of my life private so giving someone the opportunity to find out who I am is not something I'd be happy about. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
A
I would certainly opt out if this feature was introduced. I chose the few people I add to my friends list very carefully as my face picture is in my friends only album. There is no way I'd want someone who'd only winked at me to see them.
I live in a very rural area and I like to keep this part of my life private so giving someone the opportunity to find out who I am is not something I'd be happy about. "
The idea would not permit someone who'd winked at you to to see your pics. It's the other way around: they wink at you and have the option to let YOU see THEIR private gallery. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
A
I would certainly opt out if this feature was introduced. I chose the few people I add to my friends list very carefully as my face picture is in my friends only album. There is no way I'd want someone who'd only winked at me to see them.
I live in a very rural area and I like to keep this part of my life private so giving someone the opportunity to find out who I am is not something I'd be happy about.
The idea would not permit someone who'd winked at you to to see your pics. It's the other way around: they wink at you and have the option to let YOU see THEIR private gallery."
We're happy just seeing pics that people choose to make public until some kind of interest/attraction is there.
You can't get that just by looking at a picture.
Someone may have great pics but in conversation turn out to be the total opposite of who you'd be interested in actually meeting.
So it definitely wouldn't interest us.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
A
I would certainly opt out if this feature was introduced. I chose the few people I add to my friends list very carefully as my face picture is in my friends only album. There is no way I'd want someone who'd only winked at me to see them.
I live in a very rural area and I like to keep this part of my life private so giving someone the opportunity to find out who I am is not something I'd be happy about.
The idea would not permit someone who'd winked at you to to see your pics. It's the other way around: they wink at you and have the option to let YOU see THEIR private gallery.
We're happy just seeing pics that people choose to make public until some kind of interest/attraction is there.
You can't get that just by looking at a picture.
Someone may have great pics but in conversation turn out to be the total opposite of who you'd be interested in actually meeting.
So it definitely wouldn't interest us.
A"
Thanks for the feedback. I'll respond to the points you've raised in due course. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok. Some feedback.
If you allow someone even temporary access to your pics then what's to stop them copying and saving them? You may as well just message them and attach images you want them to see.
In your scenario - you wink someone and grant them access. They decide they're not interested and make no contact. What next? How have you benefitted at all?
Alternatively - you wink, they look, they like and send a message. The same is currently available if you message with a pic instead of winking.
If your reasoning for it being available to site supporters is that you feel these are more likely to be real people? Wrong. A fiver isn't too much for someone to spend to get better use out of a fake profile.
Surely the best way to attract interest is to put enough decent images in your public gallery to motivate people to get in touch, or to proactively message people yourself? The site currently gives plenty if tools to help create a great visual identity as well as enough means of 'advertising' yourself and making contact with others.
It's always good to make suggestions to improve member facilities and use of the site - personally I don't see any benefit to what you're suggesting though and plenty of risks.
A
I would certainly opt out if this feature was introduced. I chose the few people I add to my friends list very carefully as my face picture is in my friends only album. There is no way I'd want someone who'd only winked at me to see them.
I live in a very rural area and I like to keep this part of my life private so giving someone the opportunity to find out who I am is not something I'd be happy about.
The idea would not permit someone who'd winked at you to to see your pics. It's the other way around: they wink at you and have the option to let YOU see THEIR private gallery."
The way I operate my profile, when I'm not in hiding, is I make the first move. So going by what you're suggesting if I wink at them, they get the opportunity to look at my friends only pictures before they even chat to me. Which is why I said I'd want to opt out if this was ever introduced. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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this feature wouldn't interest us, we have our facepics in private for a number of reasons and wouldn't want someone to be able to access them without us agreeing and chatting first, it would come across as a little lazy to us if someone just wanted to look at private pics without making the effort of a little conversation first |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Lol. Clearly the first few posters read my opening post, whereas the last few didn't bother and instead went into a rant about private pics being private, etc.
Just to clear up any misunderstanding about privacy of pics, please imagine this scenario:
1. Jane see Peter's profile and decides to send a wink.
2. She clicks 'send a wink' and chooses the new 'wink with private peek' option.
3. Peter receives the wink and sees that Jane's wink includes an invitation to view HER Private Gallery (whether he does or not is neither here nor there - it's his choice)
That's it. At no time can Jane see Peter's private gallery.
So, the private gallery remains under the complete control of the profile owner at all times. Just as it is now.
Now, regards the general idea being suggested, obviously some will like it (as seen by the fist few posters) and some will not. Fair enough, but feedback can only be constructive if time is taken to read the opening post and understand what is actually being proposed, rather than jumping to conclusions.
Ooh, it's a rocky road on the journey to innovation
Would the idea suggested improve the site? That's the big question. It's not trying to solve any problem, but rather add some new richness to the features. Would people use the 'wink with private peek' function? This is anyone's guess, but my gut feel is that lots of people would. It's not a substitute for sending messages, but just another way of reaching out to those who interest you. There are no new risks introduced so people who didn't want to use the feature would be unaffected.
Maybe the test is this. If you received winks where the people sending them had invited you to take a peek at their private gallery, without them seeing yours, would you click and take a look at the interesting ones? I know I would, at least sometimes.
It's only an idea for a feature, not a cause célèbre.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Lol. Clearly the first few posters read my opening post, whereas the last few didn't bother and instead went into a rant about private pics being private, etc."
I wasn't one of the first few posters but I certainly didn't rant in my response! I said that it was an option that I'd want to opt out of and gave the reason!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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op, before you call everyone that does not agree with you ranty, you may want to consider the amount of times you use 'i' in your op, its a bit unclear and we read it over a few times and were still unclear, hence why we left our comment!
if you are after looking at folks pics then why not just make conversation and ask folk to either add you or send pics?
please don't hypocritically rant by calling anyone that questions your post ranters, instead maybe read your op honestly and if you feel its not been explained properly, then try again |
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"op, before you call everyone that does not agree with you ranty, you may want to consider the amount of times you use 'i' in your op, its a bit unclear and we read it over a few times and were still unclear, hence why we left our comment!
if you are after looking at folks pics then why not just make conversation and ask folk to either add you or send pics?
please don't hypocritically rant by calling anyone that questions your post ranters, instead maybe read your op honestly and if you feel its not been explained properly, then try again "
i like to send the odd wink now & then, but if this means the person i wink can look in my private pics then my answer still stands, and FYI, i did fully understand your OP |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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The OP didn't say when you wink someone they will be able to see private pics....they said what they are asking for was an option to "(a) Send a wink without a Private Peek (b) Send a wink with a Private Peek. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I get it, you wink at someone and that grants "them" the ability to view your profile,
as in you wink to say hi, and here's us!
I think this could work, no one gets to see your pictures unless you grant them permission with the wink option, and it will save having to send picture after picture and give the person you winked at a better idea of who you are,
It's a great idea x |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"The OP didn't say when you wink someone they will be able to see private pics....they said what they are asking for was an option to "(a) Send a wink without a Private Peek (b) Send a wink with a Private Peek. "
I understood the concept as it was clearly explained in the OP
I still see neither the need or the benefit.
I do see plenty of potential for it to end in tears when the person you've never actually messaged/spoken to returns out to be a scammer, a fake or just vindictive and used your pics for purposes you didn't intend.
Anyone remember the whole 'tumbler' (deliberate spelling mistake!) incident earlier this year and the countless threads about pics from friends only galleries ending up elsewhere on the net?
*posted in an entirely rant free manner.
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"OP i get your idea & it sounds good if it's used properly as a "hello" but it will result in a lot more winks happening which isn't necessarily a good thing.
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We ignore all winks per se but do believe this is a very good idea which has been thought out and well presented.
Good work! |
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