FabSwingers.com > Forums > Fabswingers.com site feedback > the swinging club discussion forum
the swinging club discussion forum
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules....... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules......."
Seconded, and by some clubs followers more than others. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I agree and extend this to the club review section that is somewhat of a joke currently.
People are almost scared to post a negative review for vast swathes of clubs out there and often most club listings are just cheerleaders who go every week declaring the club the best in the uk/world/universe.
Not to mention all the dead clubs that clutter up the list, both it and the forum need a stringent look at.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
Forum Mod Totteridge/Whetstone |
@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
@BlackCherry, we removed around a half dozen clubs just recently that we were able to confirm were no longer open, feel free to let us know in this thread what we've missed and we'll have another look 
Admin x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Hi could you please delete the Tease 2 Hotel club listing that's in the South East section of the club reviews section.Its actually a duplicate and very rarely gets used as we have another listing....Thankyou .. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Nearly as bad as the glowing club reviews done by hosts, members of staff and regulars but they always seem to stay, not fair on people who read them.
I'm not sure admin are dealing with the situation |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I agree and extend this to the club review section that is somewhat of a joke currently.
People are almost scared to post a negative review for vast swathes of clubs out there and often most club listings are just cheerleaders who go every week declaring the club the best in the uk/world/universe.
Not to mention all the dead clubs that clutter up the list, both it and the forum need a stringent look at.
"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules......."
Very much agree...I'm not sure if they realise the constant posts from a small handful of "friends of the owners" are massively off putting to some of us who would like to try their club but just see it as massively cliquey and more than a little desperate...and don't even get me started on the hijacking of threads asking questions about those clubs in close proximity that could be considered to be their competition... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules.......
Very much agree...I'm not sure if they realise the constant posts from a small handful of "friends of the owners" are massively off putting to some of us who would like to try their club but just see it as massively cliquey and more than a little desperate...and don't even get me started on the hijacking of threads asking questions about those clubs in close proximity that could be considered to be their competition..."
Totally agree with this. and let's not forget the I'm thinking of trying a club threads. Or the general discussions that ignore contributions that aren't about a specific club. Or the same people discussing who is going next week...
And yes Fabio I agree someone had to say it |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
Admin x"
thanks for answering back.... the problem is that if you were just to take the 1st 2 pages currently of the swinging club forum at least 25 of them are "X going on on X night at X club, is anyone going???"
the forum has basically been hijacked..... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
Forum Mod Totteridge/Whetstone |
"@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
Admin x
thanks for answering back.... the problem is that if you were just to take the 1st 2 pages currently of the swinging club forum at least 25 of them are "X going on on X night at X club, is anyone going???"
the forum has basically been hijacked....."
What would you suggest? We are open to ideas.
Admin x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
I am not bothered where Admin tell me to put posts....but my personal opinion would be...... if the posts are about a club isn't the club section the best place?
Ok the ones from clubs or their workers shouldn't be in there and if they are known to be associated with the club they are taken off....but if we were looking to go to a club that would be the first place to go to so we could talk about it and see if there are other people from the site going that night too.
Sadly even the posts started asking for advice never get answered so it seems a very lonely place in there for club novices. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
Admin x
thanks for answering back.... the problem is that if you were just to take the 1st 2 pages currently of the swinging club forum at least 25 of them are "X going on on X night at X club, is anyone going???"
the forum has basically been hijacked.....
What would you suggest? We are open to ideas.
Admin x"
okay.... how about something radical....
since the Australia, canada, New Zealand, america and world wide forums don't have as much traffic going to them.... how about joining them together and freeing up space for other forums...
one called "europe".... the other called "world wide".....
then you can then create a forum for the "club meet requests" type posts.....
I think people would be more inclined to discuss proper swinging club issues if they weren't swamped for finding them in all the pseudo meet requests..... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
@BlackCherry, we removed around a half dozen clubs just recently that we were able to confirm were no longer open, feel free to let us know in this thread what we've missed and we'll have another look
Admin x"
Hi did say the club in Leeds (not Isis) was not a club and should be removed a long time ago in the right forum but its still there  So sometimes think why bother |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
" we removed around a half dozen clubs just recently that we were able to confirm were no longer open, feel free to let us know in this thread what we've missed and we'll have another look
Admin x"
these are dead or have no web links
Club Champagne (long gone)
Club Baloos (long gone)
Club Libertine (long gone)
Trinity Swingers
Devious Liasons
G.spot Parties
Hotel Caribena Blackpool
Exscape Vip Club (clearly not swingers)
G Spot Birmingham |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"@_abio, if you see this can you please report the posts so we can deal with it. If some clubs are doing this regularly, you can use the CONTACT link to let us know which clubs and we'll have a look
Admin x
thanks for answering back.... the problem is that if you were just to take the 1st 2 pages currently of the swinging club forum at least 25 of them are "X going on on X night at X club, is anyone going???"
the forum has basically been hijacked.....
What would you suggest? We are open to ideas.
Admin x
okay.... how about something radical....
since the Australia, canada, New Zealand, america and world wide forums don't have as much traffic going to them.... how about joining them together and freeing up space for other forums...
one called "europe".... the other called "world wide".....
then you can then create a forum for the "club meet requests" type posts.....
I think people would be more inclined to discuss proper swinging club issues if they weren't swamped for finding them in all the pseudo meet requests..... "
That sounds good, and why not a European club section while you are at it? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
How about introducing a calendar of events where people going can add their own profile to the Guest List?
That would make both parties and club nights a place to look forward to and encourage the socialising before the night, on the night and after the party  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
Forum Mod Totteridge/Whetstone |
" we removed around a half dozen clubs just recently that we were able to confirm were no longer open, feel free to let us know in this thread what we've missed and we'll have another look
Admin x
these are dead or have no web links
Club Champagne (long gone)
Club Baloos (long gone)
Club Libertine (long gone)
Trinity Swingers
Devious Liasons
G.spot Parties
Hotel Caribena Blackpool
Exscape Vip Club (clearly not swingers)
G Spot Birmingham"
Thanks we'll have a look at these
Admin x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"How about introducing a calendar of events where people going can add their own profile to the Guest List?
That would make both parties and club nights a place to look forward to and encourage the socialising before the night, on the night and after the party "
Yes... No... Maybe? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules.......
Seconded, and by some clubs followers more than others. "
Totally agree - it helps no one with all this pseudo advertising - can Fab control this please? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The last thing that Clubs or Party Organisers what to do is spam users, but simply make them aware of:
a) This is who we are
b) This is what we do
c) Here is our next themed party
At times we may appear to be spamming but really we are simply trying to bring a message across to distinguish ourself from other normal profiles!
A calendar of events to see what party is been hosted and by whom with the possibility to add interested profiles on the guest list would bring much more interest where to party and/or what's going on near you.
The facility to send one single communication to those interested in attending the party or even to your friends list would also be of unquestionable benefit as indeed if someone does not want to be kept updated could quite simply remove itself from the friend list |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
Disclaimer: The views posted here in no way represent the views of Fabswingers but merely those of the author...
If people are running clubs or parties for commercial profit I dont see why they should feel that someone elses site should be used for their free marketing.
If the clubs/commercial party organisers paid to advertise their events on the site then thats a whole different ball-game and in those circumstances theyd be entitled to ask for additional functions, but as they dont I think the site is probably already too generous with them. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Disclaimer: The views posted here in no way represent the views of Fabswingers but merely those of the author...
If people are running clubs or parties for commercial profit I dont see why they should feel that someone elses site should be used for their free marketing.
If the clubs/commercial party organisers paid to advertise their events on the site then thats a whole different ball-game and in those circumstances theyd be entitled to ask for additional functions, but as they dont I think the site is probably already too generous with them. "
A very valid point |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Disclaimer: The views posted here in no way represent the views of Fabswingers but merely those of the author...
If people are running clubs or parties for commercial profit I dont see why they should feel that someone elses site should be used for their free marketing.
If the clubs/commercial party organisers paid to advertise their events on the site then thats a whole different ball-game and in those circumstances theyd be entitled to ask for additional functions, but as they dont I think the site is probably already too generous with them. "
I would absolutely agree with you.... and I can think of a few "culprits" off the top of my head straight away.....
I think were it started as good intentions it has gotten to be stage of being abused in the same way where the original club events forum was made for that, it has now spilled over into other places.....
other then deleting or moving posts i am not sure there is a valid deterrant... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Disclaimer: The views posted here in no way represent the views of Fabswingers but merely those of the author...
If people are running clubs or parties for commercial profit I dont see why they should feel that someone elses site should be used for their free marketing.
If the clubs/commercial party organisers paid to advertise their events on the site then thats a whole different ball-game and in those circumstances theyd be entitled to ask for additional functions, but as they dont I think the site is probably already too generous with them. "
I am sharing my views for future considerations and/or improvements, whether these should be chargeable or not these would have to be decided by Fabswingers.com but I am sure that if such functions would be available, most definitely Clubs and/or Party Organizers would be willing to oblige.
The site has already a Club Listing and in order to advertise in here we equally exchange the link so the advertising is not one way only
Some websites do pay us a commission to link their website and therefore bringing traffic to their business so we must be doing something right and/or contribute in bringing more interest and entertainment to it's users |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *j_markCouple
over a year ago
Forum Mod Totteridge/Whetstone |
There's a balance here *.
We want to allow clubs/events to make people aware of what they're doing IF we think it's of benefit to users (totally at our discretion).
We have a zero-tolerance approach to any spamming (anywhere on the site).
We're reading this thread and taking it on board
Admin x
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Disclaimer: The views posted here in no way represent the views of Fabswingers but merely those of the author...
If people are running clubs or parties for commercial profit I dont see why they should feel that someone elses site should be used for their free marketing.
If the clubs/commercial party organisers paid to advertise their events on the site then thats a whole different ball-game and in those circumstances theyd be entitled to ask for additional functions, but as they dont I think the site is probably already too generous with them. "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Maybe a "whats on where" section would help ???
Drop down menu for each area so things dont get to cluttered.
Clubs or those organising an event, could simply add whats on on a particular night that month.
A couple of months would be more than enough for what most folk would be looking for. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Thank you Mark for taking the time to reply.
The facilities are practically there it just need a ribbon to finish it off:
• There is a Swinging Club/Events ads and also a Swinging Club Discussion in the Forum.
• There is a dedicated page for Meets, Events.
• There is a Club Listing section
All what is required is basically organizing them together… I thought this is what the OP was pointing out and subsequently suggestions or ideas where encouraged.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Maybe a "whats on where" section would help ???
Drop down menu for each area so things dont get to cluttered.
Clubs or those organising an event, could simply add whats on on a particular night that month.
A couple of months would be more than enough for what most folk would be looking for."
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Also we have noticed in the club ads thread, some clubs are putting up a whole week/weekend events advertisement in one thread which is a great idea. But then the individual event ads crop up. Surely that contravenes the multiple add rule? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"How about introducing a calendar of events where people going can add their own profile to the Guest List?
That would make both parties and club nights a place to look forward to and encourage the socialising before the night, on the night and after the party
Yes... No... Maybe?"
Sounds like a plan |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I'm going to add my two pennorth. I have noticed that on the club reviews sometimes its the same profiles that do a cracking review week after week, so possibly motivated by being employees, regulars or friends of said club, so not impartial at all. There is currently a filter that prevents anyone from writing a club review if they have been members here for less than thirty days so it should be simple to tweak that filter to ONCE every thirty days? This should cut down on the spamming type reviews and even the nasty jealous reviews from rival clubs! I go to clubs a lot and often rely on reviews,it would be nice to know they aren't all written by the best buddies of the owners or the people who hate them |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Also we have noticed in the club ads thread, some clubs are putting up a whole week/weekend events advertisement in one thread which is a great idea. But then the individual event ads crop up. Surely that contravenes the multiple add rule?"
Hi noticed the same, they try to get around the rule of one advert by another club supporter posting another event etc. just a suggestion but as each club has a fab identity to manage their club data etc why not link these club identities to the club advert forum as the only ones to post with a once a week limit set ???? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"How about introducing a calendar of events where people going can add their own profile to the Guest List?
That would make both parties and club nights a place to look forward to and encourage the socialising before the night, on the night and after the party "
Yes.
It would be good to be able to add yourself to organised meets and see a guest list. We like to meet maybe for a drink beforehand or exchange a couple of messages with others going so we can say hi if we see them there.
Ruby x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *exxxesCouple
over a year ago
Newbury / London |
Yes, we'd also like this. It is an option on another site, and a big reason we like using that one actually. Seeing who intends to go to an event is often a good sell in our opinion.
I know that some events post guest lists on the forum, like the Fab meet at Xtasia last week. However, it is often a little tricky to keep up to speed with (multiple pages and the obligatory "5 more sleeps" posts) and boy is it a nightmare trying to see who the guests are via the 'username search'. The other site simply allows you to click the name and away you go.
Not a complaint, just supporting a better calendar / list of organised events. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"isn't really fit for purpose at the moment... sorry but someone has to say it...
it has basically turned into a pseudo 2nd place to advertise clubs and specific nights under the guise of:
"well we are going to X club on X night... anyone else going....."
other than the answer "yes" or "no" its not really a discussion now is it.....
I am still a believer these should go into the meets section... or even better..create a new section where these can be advertised to their hearts contect
at the moment it is just being used by club followers to hype up clubs on certain night and get around the rules......."
This is so true, the amount of times you seen .. where is the best club in / or i'm a single girl and will be at this club, who will take me… then a barrage of replies from owners and specific club followers basically advertising a club seems to be becoming the norm.
Maybe that's being cynical, but after seeing an advert from a single girl asking to be taken to a particular club by a male, because it would be her first time … to see from her verifications that she been there countless times before, just makes me feel these types are post are just not genuine and are just to drum up more business.
Cab we not have a report thread option, like the report user .. so we can bring threads to admins / Mods attention ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"
Cab we not have a report thread option, like the report user .. so we can bring threads to admins / Mods attention ?"
You can report any post. We would always read the whole thread anyway. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Cab we not have a report thread option, like the report user .. so we can bring threads to admins / Mods attention ?
You can report any post. We would always read the whole thread anyway."
Perfect example of this practise is tease cos they pop up a weekly ad and then to keep it at the top the staff, free workers , regulars post innane comments just to get to the top ! Perhaps should limit ads to first post by club owners only and when expired ads removed by admin? Just a thought |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Most clubs bump their adds up in the event section....it is not limited to one club.
"
Agreed, its just that we have three clubs close by and tease is the best example of the practice. Wasnt trying to name/ shame just give a clear example. Sorry if gave the wrong impression there. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Frankly speaking I do not understand the anger that at times we show between us in forums and in particular against party organizers and/or clubs owners, I mean we are supposed to support one another as after all “we” swingers are a minority in what it is it supposed to be the normal society.
With all respect we should all be grateful to Fabswingers.com that put us all together, there is no doubt about that, but party organisers and clubs owner do play a major role in providing both opportunities and choices for entertaining like-minded people and we should feel privileged to have such a wide choice.
No matter how well organised a party is… the most important of all are the people who attend a party and the better the information on whom is attending that particular party the better the socialising and the outcome of the evening will be.
It is nice to attend to different events depending on how you feel on that particular time, what’s wrong with that? If every party night would be the same everywhere… what a boring world this would be
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Frankly speaking I do not understand the anger that at times we show between us in forums and in particular against party organizers and/or clubs owners, I mean we are supposed to support one another as after all “we” swingers are a minority in what it is it supposed to be the normal society.
With all respect we should all be grateful to Fabswingers.com that put us all together, there is no doubt about that, but party organisers and clubs owner do play a major role in providing both opportunities and choices for entertaining like-minded people and we should feel privileged to have such a wide choice.
No matter how well organised a party is… the most important of all are the people who attend a party and the better the information on whom is attending that particular party the better the socialising and the outcome of the evening will be.
It is nice to attend to different events depending on how you feel on that particular time, what’s wrong with that? If every party night would be the same everywhere… what a boring world this would be
"
see... the issue is there is already a section for that....
what is happening is people are taking advantage of other sections for the same thing.....
there are certain clubs and their followers that are more gulity of this than others......
maybe if clubs were each given their own thread within the thread it wouldnt happen so often, so people knew to look up a thread it wouldn't be so bad.... and then general topics could be posted as well (which is what is way designed for!)
but at the moment... it is being almost being used to announce you are going to a certain club on a certain night... or a certain event.... well whoop-de-do!
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
it's happening again... and you can see from the first two pages who the main club culprits are......
I still think one of the main solutions would be to merge some of the less used forums together to create space for new ones.... then you could put it out to the larger forum as to what new forums they would like....
like i suggested before... merging us, australia, canada, new zealand, and world wide into for example one called "europe" and one called "world wide" would then turn 5 forums into 2 and hopefully make those busier... and create space for 3 new ones to replace them
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"it's happening again... and you can see from the first two pages who the main club culprits are......
I still think one of the main solutions would be to merge some of the less used forums together to create space for new ones.... then you could put it out to the larger forum as to what new forums they would like....
like i suggested before... merging us, australia, canada, new zealand, and world wide into for example one called "europe" and one called "world wide" would then turn 5 forums into 2 and hopefully make those busier... and create space for 3 new ones to replace them
"
Great idea |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I'm going to add my two pennorth. I have noticed that on the club reviews sometimes its the same profiles that do a cracking review week after week, so possibly motivated by being employees, regulars or friends of said club, so not impartial at all. There is currently a filter that prevents anyone from writing a club review if they have been members here for less than thirty days so it should be simple to tweak that filter to ONCE every thirty days? This should cut down on the spamming type reviews and even the nasty jealous reviews from rival clubs! I go to clubs a lot and often rely on reviews,it would be nice to know they aren't all written by the best buddies of the owners or the people who hate them "
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Admin
I am shocked that this thread has not been shut down the same as our discussion in the London forum was.
There are clubs on here which are not only unsafe but dangerous places for single ladies to attend.
There needs to be some sort of system where we can remove these clubs. I do not mean after one negative review but after several and maybe a visit from a fab team.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Admin
I am shocked that this thread has not been shut down the same as our discussion in the London forum was.
There are clubs on here which are not only unsafe but dangerous places for single ladies to attend.
There needs to be some sort of system where we can remove these clubs. I do not mean after one negative review but after several and maybe a visit from a fab team.
"
I'm not sure what this thead has got to do with a random (and presumably unfounded) allegation that some clubs are dangerous for single women to attend  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Admin
I am shocked that this thread has not been shut down the same as our discussion in the London forum was.
There are clubs on here which are not only unsafe but dangerous places for single ladies to attend.
There needs to be some sort of system where we can remove these clubs. I do not mean after one negative review but after several and maybe a visit from a fab team.
"
Fab team, I'm unaware of any teams visiting clubs and vetting them |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
What about an area of the site set aside for legitimate clubs or websites to promote events?
Agree with the OP, but if a section was set aside for people to advertise/promote parties and paid events, then the discussion forum could be used for what its name says. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down "
Think you're flogging a dead horse with this one.... agree totes. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down
Think you're flogging a dead horse with this one.... agree totes."
How would Admin knows which little avatar works at which club?
And for your post above this one about the events - there is already a forum for this. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I suppose there is, but i can think of a few people (clubs and a website) who avoid using it, as they are unsure about advertising paid events.
The club reviews seriously need attention tho, there are still clubs advertised that simply do not exist any more. Sorry, seem to have gone off topic. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"I suppose there is, but i can think of a few people (clubs and a website) who avoid using it, as they are unsure about advertising paid events.
."
They only have to read the instructions on the post Admin made in that section. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down
Think you're flogging a dead horse with this one.... agree totes.
How would Admin knows which little avatar works at which club?
And for your post above this one about the events - there is already a forum for this."
Because those profiles who run whatever club may have been reported several times previously by different members on here !
But as someone else has said "its floggin a dead horse"
Could Admin tell us how many times approx an item gets reported before any action is taken against it please ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"Heres a perfect example of the reviews on a club
Look at the Office in Bristol 6 new reviews all saying the exact same thing "
Looks like someone sat on their phone after sending the review. Did you report the reviews as duplicate? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Nearly as bad as the glowing club reviews done by hosts, members of staff and regulars but they always seem to stay, not fair on people who read them.
I'm not sure admin are dealing with the situation"
So if someone is a regular at a club, they shouldn't be allowed to post reviews of the club?
What's your preference? People that have been once only or people that haven't been at all?
We never post a review of a club until we have visited a few times, just in case the first impression was false.
As far as reviews by staff, hosts and owners are concerned, we agree. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
"Nearly as bad as the glowing club reviews done by hosts, members of staff and regulars but they always seem to stay, not fair on people who read them.
I'm not sure admin are dealing with the situation
So if someone is a regular at a club, they shouldn't be allowed to post reviews of the club?
What's your preference? People that have been once only or people that haven't been at all?
We never post a review of a club until we have visited a few times, just in case the first impression was false.
As far as reviews by staff, hosts and owners are concerned, we agree."
I'm assuming here that posts by regulars was meant to translate as regulars posting repeat reviews? If that's the case then one review per person/profile should be the default setting
I however do agree that management/staff of a club should not be able to post reviews, but it would also be upto site members reporting individual reviews for admin to follow up. Can work if all parties do their bit |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"
I however do agree that management/staff of a club should not be able to post reviews, but it would also be upto site members reporting individual reviews for admin to follow up. Can work if all parties do their bit "
But as I said up there ^^^ how would Admin know who works at the club? It might be possible for them to determine who the owners are - providing they post comments using an account that makes it clear that they are the owners - but how on earth would they be able to determine which little avatar works at the club/ used to work at the club/occasionally helps out behind the bar/is shagging the barmaid? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"
So if someone is a regular at a club, they shouldn't be allowed to post reviews of the club?
What's your preference? People that have been once only or people that haven't been at all?
We never post a review of a club until we have visited a few times, just in case the first impression was false.
As far as reviews by staff, hosts and owners are concerned, we agree.
I'm assuming here that posts by regulars was meant to translate as regulars posting repeat reviews? If that's the case then one review per person/profile should be the default setting
I however do agree that management/staff of a club should not be able to post reviews, but it would also be upto site members reporting individual reviews for admin to follow up. Can work if all parties do their bit "
Regulars posting reviews was intended to mean regulars posting occasional reviews IF THE SITUATION OR CLUB CHANGES. Not a review every week or visit.
If a club we visit installs a new feature or room, or removes one, then a review should be posted to reflect the change to the club.
Same applies if a club's admissions policy changes - If they decide to let single men or tvs in on what used to be a couples only night, people need to know! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i am going to bump this up again.... because it is beginning to happen again and again and again...
it is gotten to the stage where I think that something has to be done, or it becomes a 2nd events forum again...
we all know who the chief offenders are... (you can read the first two pages to notice the pattern) is someone going to be done about it???
you can move them to the right forums, but this isn't helping because they are doing it again... and again... and again |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"i am going to bump this up again.... because it is beginning to happen again and again and again...
it is gotten to the stage where I think that something has to be done, or it becomes a 2nd events forum again...
we all know who the chief offenders are... (you can read the first two pages to notice the pattern) is someone going to be done about it???
you can move them to the right forums, but this isn't helping because they are doing it again... and again... and again"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"i am going to bump this up again.... because it is beginning to happen again and again and again...
it is gotten to the stage where I think that something has to be done, or it becomes a 2nd events forum again...
we all know who the chief offenders are... (you can read the first two pages to notice the pattern) is someone going to be done about it???
you can move them to the right forums, but this isn't helping because they are doing it again... and again... and again
"
Very true! Puts you off wnating to use the forums overall. There is a very different interest from club owners than that from us active Swingers.
If I want to know about clubs I look at Reviews and then Organised meets.
Would be nice if they could back off the Forums as it's too intense and too many posts! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I can see that properly run clubs, with local authority permission and fire certificates,insurances etc., are up against not only the drift of customers toward meeting via websites and at home. They are also losing custom it seems to anyone setting themselves up without anything other than a premises, uninsured, no permission and certainly lacking a fire certificate.
Perhaps if the site asked for proof of these before listing a club?
I live in fear of opening the paper one day to read of several people perishing in an illegally run premises. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Ok bit of devils advocate here so bear with me.....
How do admin police the posts and define which are genuine and which are not ? People post up mentioning they are going to a club etc to gauge interest as to who else is going ( this is where the calendar would help )
As for advertising, well its a niche market with fierce competition so clubs will try to get as much coverage as possible, agreed there are some that use this worse than others but the bottom line is they want the numbers/clientele. We are lucky Fab allow us to advertise events etc and they do a great job.
Reading through the swinging club discussion forum, the majority seems to fairly genuine discussions and within the rules of fab. People can post and air their views etc freely regarding clubs etc, if they are blatant adverts for clubs then agreed they should be reported/removed. The question then arises again how do you tell which are true and which are not genuine ? Policing that would be a job in itself ?
Several suggestions have been made to admin which i agree with, in particular a calendar of sorts so people can see who/what and when is going on and who is attending, personally i think this is a great idea.
Joining other forums together to make room for other forums will only move the problem from one place to another, making more work for admin with no gain or improvement. A better solution would be someone to volunteer to police the threads and move / delete etc when needed ??
Clubs and promoters want to let people know about there events/venues etc and Fab is a fantastic tool to do that and we should be grateful for that, but i do agree there is room for improvement.
Jamie. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"
A better solution would be someone to volunteer to police the threads and move / delete etc when needed ??
Jamie. "
That will be the mods then
All it needs if a mod has missed them is for people to report and it will get picked up |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
A better solution would be someone to volunteer to police the threads and move / delete etc when needed ??
Jamie.
That will be the mods then
All it needs if a mod has missed them is for people to report and it will get picked up "
Yeh sorry forgot to mention the mods Only problem is if no one reports the posts the mods dont know about it ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I will never again leave a club review. I left one very fair negative review and mentioned problems we saw there.
The number of mails we had attackin us from club supporters was outrageous.
You can't give a negative review it seems as it's bad for business and if you do, expect lots of mails attacking you foe posting that review |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Devils advocate
But the friends of owner / staff etc who post good reviews?
What about the disgruntled ex staff who post bad reviews?
Personally speaking a couple we met bad mouth a club they used to work at!
To the extent that Supposdly there is cameras in some play rooms.
The club section is a valuable tool.
It works both ways it can help us to decide where to go or not at all.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"As for advertising, well its a niche market with fierce competition so clubs will try to get as much coverage as possible, agreed there are some that use this worse than others but the bottom line is they want the numbers/clientele."
It is indeed, but there is already a dedicated forum room for clubs adds and events. As a common user I get tired of participating in a discussion that turns in to Club owners, more or less subtle, persuasions in how good THEIR club is and how much fun people have just had in THEIR club and how much better THEIR club is. We know they are bound to say that. I am interested in fellow users unbiased tales of their club experiences.
"Reading through the swinging club discussion forum, the majority seems to fairly genuine discussions and within the rules of fab. Jamie."
That is because the OP bumping this thread up again did it's job; the discussions changed immediately, trust me! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
They change everytime a thread turns up that is an obvious advert and a mod or Admin see it to remove and if club owners are persistant they get banned as the rules apply to them too.
Mods are not here 24 hours a day so the other times if you report it they will get moved when someone picks up the report.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
look at first 2 pages of the swinging club forum is... and is is basically 2 pages worth of advertisements for clubs.....
and multiple adverts for the same nights....
is the answer a seperate forum for club meet adverts.... because no one is paying attension in the swinging club discussion forum.... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
At the moment starting a thread asking if people are going to a certain club on a certain night isn't in the wrong place....neither is asking advice about clubs and that is what I can see in the discussion forum.
If Admin change their mind about which forum certain posts should be in then the mods will be told and things will change.
Sadly, the posts asking for advice never seem to be answered which is a shame. It might do what is lacking in there if people answered, IE start discussions.
(No threads have been removed since you posting this and my post, one has been moved to another section ) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"look at first 2 pages of the swinging club forum is... and is is basically 2 pages worth of advertisements for clubs.....
and multiple adverts for the same nights....
is the answer a seperate forum for club meet adverts.... because no one is paying attension in the swinging club discussion forum...."
At the moment I don't see many discussions taking place mainly club meet requests . Not really much of a discussion about singers clubs more of a discussion about parties and meets and who's going where. That's just how it looks at the moment. Or could be a massive influx because of xmas?? .. I'd have thought meet requests and parties might be the place these should be but I might be wrong . |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
If each review showed how many times the user had reviewed the same club in the previous 12 months then the repeat offenders would be shown up for what they were. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *raceypCouple
over a year ago
south of sunderland |
well how about a solution to the review clubs problem only allow a person to review the same club say once every 3 months or a time limit like that and only if they have attended the club on that time |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Yes, we'd also like this. It is an option on another site, and a big reason we like using that one actually. Seeing who intends to go to an event is often a good sell in our opinion.
I know that some events post guest lists on the forum, like the Fab meet at Xtasia last week. However, it is often a little tricky to keep up to speed with (multiple pages and the obligatory "5 more sleeps" posts) and boy is it a nightmare trying to see who the guests are via the 'username search'. The other site simply allows you to click the name and away you go.
Not a complaint, just supporting a better calendar / list of organised events."
That was precisely the point we were trying to bring across, the facilities are practically there, but perhaps could be improved for the benefit of most
People as well as using the site fir individual meets like to attend also to parties and clubs and welcome the opportunity to find out what's going on in the scene, where to go and/or not to go in a much more user friendly way.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
yes please a European club section in the clubs would be great, so many people travelling there for weekend of fun, we have visited over 40 clubs in Europe and would love to have somewhere to be able to tell others which are worth visiting -or not ! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"What about an area of the site set aside for legitimate clubs or websites to promote events?
Agree with the OP, but if a section was set aside for people to advertise/promote parties and paid events, then the discussion forum could be used for what its name says."
We couldn't agree with you more! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down
Think you're flogging a dead horse with this one.... agree totes.
How would Admin knows which little avatar works at which club?
And for your post above this one about the events - there is already a forum for this."
How about creating a different profile for Clubs owners and/or Party Organisers to distinguish them from the rest? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I can see that properly run clubs, with local authority permission and fire certificates,insurances etc., are up against not only the drift of customers toward meeting via websites and at home. They are also losing custom it seems to anyone setting themselves up without anything other than a premises, uninsured, no permission and certainly lacking a fire certificate.
Perhaps if the site asked for proof of these before listing a club?
I live in fear of opening the paper one day to read of several people perishing in an illegally run premises. "
The day in which we will be able to legalise Swinger Clubs with a proper licence as in most European countries... That would be the day!
With this I am not criticizing you as you are absolutely right in your predicaments.
We "swingers" are a minority in the society, a peaceful and open minded minority who prefers to go quietly rather than standing on our own feet and supporting one another proudly fir who we are...
We should feel priviledged that Fabswingers.com is bringing us together and we should use such facilities to establish a certain amount of respect in our society like another sexual minority, perhaps highly sexual but nevertheless another sexual minority.
Club owners and Party Organisers have to deal with all the various licencing which do not exist in UK as swinging is pretty much a grey area, require all your support and solidarity NOT your criticism! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Just looked at some of the club reviews and once again there are people who actually work for the clubs giving great reports on its atmosphere decor etc and one just asking if the place is actually open !
Whats the point reporting things like this when the review doesnt get taken down
Think you're flogging a dead horse with this one.... agree totes.
How would Admin knows which little avatar works at which club?
And for your post above this one about the events - there is already a forum for this.
How about creating a different profile for Clubs owners and/or Party Organisers to distinguish them from the rest?"
Thay said there were either doing this or looking at doing this years ago, along with a revamp of the party/events page..
still waiting. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
This is a great idea, and would be very useful for people attending a club to see who was going and when,I think this was discussed sometime ago. Also, I think people can be forgiven for putting information about when they are attending a club and who is going in a "Club discussion forum" after all, they are discussing a club. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I think an option to list a calendar would be good but if people really want to find this, they can see it on the club website.
I would personally be more than happy to pay for advertising space on Fab. If it comes to it that more limits are going to be made on clubs, then I would like the option to pay for the privilege in a designated space. Lets face it, we are getting a lot of free advertising at the moment...I think it's only fair.
I also think a way of distinguishing a club profile to a private profile would be good. It happens on other sites and works well. So everyone can see straight away, who owns/manages a club and will be directly representing the club. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andjCouple
over a year ago
tempsford |
Could not agree more, our lot are banned from posting on our reviews, although I have maybe 3 times thanking people for posting but over the 4 years we have been listed its not much. On the rejigging of the listings.... Perhaps the model to use would be trip advisor, where you cannot review somewhere again for 3 months would stop some of the staff and spoof profile holders from posting week in week out.
The other thing is the demographics of the listings...god knows who made the areas up but they are really not right.
do you also think that splitting the listings into "clubs" and "roaming party organisers" would help also. We still look for places to go sometimes if were out of the area and we think it's a club but turns out to be a party listed as a club just because they run a regularish event. Its not easy running a legitimate venue and the requirements to do so are very stringent, so let people know that it is a proper venue or someones garage etc that they are charging entry into, we have made this mistake and have ended up paying club entry prices into a house where if there was an accident or a fire or something we would be stuffed, our preference is a proper club where we know we are safe and the place is safe, im sure if you asked the club owners they would agree, we know Chams and Libs would as we are friends with the owners and its always a bug bear that mr and mrs bloggs can list themselves as a venue when its actually their home....easy way to pay the mortgage and claim benefits and not pay tax, public liability insurance, bodily waste collection licenses etc and to avoid compliance with EHO etc.
This is nothing to do with our personal place, but I would NOT go to a tattoo parlour that did not comply and I had no recourse if something untoward happened, same as a restaurant that was unfit for purpose or any other establishment that risked my health and well being for a easy buck.
I know this does not bother a lot of people but at least give people the option to make an informed decision.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *andjCouple
over a year ago
tempsford |
It would be nice as a club owner to be able to get into my club account!! Despite dozens of requests to admin to give me the log in details as an ex partner buggered off with the 45 months ago, we still have got nowhere, hence why I have to use my personal profile, which I actually hate doing as it seems a cheat and my personal profile is for my personal life, not for the club....hint hint admin pleaseeeee help on this one. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
