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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "Voyeurs probably don't meet. The exhibitionists need voyeurs. | |||
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here. " | |||
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here. "Hahahaha | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. " But you want others to be removed to increase YOUR chances? | |||
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"boss at work," I'd love to. But we have a rule 'No-one from work', Debs or mine | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be?" And who should be first to be deleted? | |||
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" But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes "Very good point! | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be?" If to start with, they stop the thousands of men flocking in, that would be a good start | |||
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"boss at work, I'd love to. But we have a rule 'No-one from work', Debs or mine "Yeah but other people could shag them. Sharing is caring.  | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? And who should be first to be deleted? "Dormant accounts. Fabs should send an email to the account first warning before deleting it | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? If to start with, they stop the thousands of men flocking in, that would be a good start " But why? What about this suggestion will make the site genuinely better? And what would make it appeal to the owners? | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes "I agree with you. This could be done with the couples and single females accounts as well | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? And who should be first to be deleted?
Dormant accounts.
Fabs should send an email to the account first warning before deleting it "How would deleting dormant accounts help? If they are dormant they are not affecting the number of active single men. | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? And who should be first to be deleted?
Dormant accounts.
Fabs should send an email to the account first warning before deleting it "You didn’t say dormant accounts originally, you said ones that haven’t had a meet in 3 years. They could be active every day, but you think they should be deleted because they don’t have a veri in the last 3 years (which doesn’t necessarily mean no meets by the way). | |||
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"Even reducing the numbers of single guys doesn't automatically mean your going to get a meet ...... if I get a 100 messages and none meet what im looking for then thats a 100 no thanks so dropping to 50 only means I send less no thanks "Hahah good point tbf. | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways " It wouldn’t though. It doesn’t matter if I have 1,000 crap messages or 50, I’m still not answering any of them. Even when I got 100s of messages a day, back at the beginning, I never missed out on anyone because of volume of messages. With most women, if a man (or couple, or woman) stands out, he’ll stand out regardless of number of messages. And you haven’t really addressed why you think *other* men should be removed while leaving you here to (you think) reap the benefits? | |||
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My personal opinion is that if people used filters to maximum effect they would get fewer or no messages. They could then search for the type of person they were interested in and contact them
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"You put your suggestions in the right place for admin to see it
My personal opinion is that if people used filters to maximum effect they would get fewer or no messages. They could then search for the type of person they were interested in and contact them
"Thanks just a suggestion. My humble opinion.. | |||
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"You put your suggestions in the right place for admin to see it
My personal opinion is that if people used filters to maximum effect they would get fewer or no messages. They could then search for the type of person they were interested in and contact them
Thanks just a suggestion. My humble opinion.. "Which you're fully entitled to express | |||
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"If you want the numbers to become more equal just stop single guys from sending first messages. Job done. S" Woah woah. How about some single guys are allowed to send first message. Like if you've spent so so amount of time on the sit or if you have say 30 verifications + then you're entitled to send first message.. That is a biased suggestion btw lol | |||
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"If you want the numbers to become more equal just stop single guys from sending first messages. Job done. S Woah woah. How about some single guys are allowed to send first message. Like if you've spent so so amount of time on the sit or if you have say 30 verifications + then you're entitled to send first message.. That is a biased suggestion btw lol" To be fair your suggestions are biased too. | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. But you want others to be removed to increase YOUR chances?" He's my friend so I can see through his words. He wants to increase his chances. The site is free upon entry. I'd they want to do that then the site has to changed to a pay to play type of site but I can see that killing the site for new blood and if no new blood comes then the site dies | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? If to start with, they stop the thousands of men flocking in, that would be a good start " My friend how do you know you won't be on the chopping block | |||
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here. "Lmao! | |||
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"You put your suggestions in the right place for admin to see it
My personal opinion is that if people used filters to maximum effect they would get fewer or no messages. They could then search for the type of person they were interested in and contact them
"That absolutely has worked for me. I haven’t even had to use all my filters or make them really strict, I only use one, but it’s brought my daily messages down to maybe 10 a day, up to 20 on a busy day. It’s very peaceful! | |||
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It's not the number that is the problem anyway, it's the quality but the decent guys always stand out in the end. Go to any social and you will probably find the top 1%. The dreamers and wannabes don't bother turning up.
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"If you want the numbers to become more equal just stop single guys from sending first messages. Job done. S Woah woah. How about some single guys are allowed to send first message. Like if you've spent so so amount of time on the sit or if you have say 30 verifications + then you're entitled to send first message.. That is a biased suggestion btw lol" Hey, you didn’t ask for a non-biased answer, you asked for an answer & I gave you one. It’d 100% work, would it be fair? Of course not. Would it ever happen? Not in a million years. But it would work nonetheless.
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"If you want the numbers to become more equal just stop single guys from sending first messages. Job done. S Woah woah. How about some single guys are allowed to send first message. Like if you've spent so so amount of time on the sit or if you have say 30 verifications + then you're entitled to send first message.. That is a biased suggestion btw lol Hey, you didn’t ask for a non-biased answer, you asked for an answer & I gave you one. It’d 100% work, would it be fair? Of course not. Would it ever happen? Not in a million years. But it would work nonetheless.
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here. "Hahaha, that's genius | |||
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"The thing is I know men on this site who do very well both with women and couples due to both an interesting profile and good messages. They don't just endlessly target the hot pics but go for personality as well as women who are their type. " Personally I do well on fabs myself thankfully. That's because I've been on since 2014 and I've learnt how to use the site. The first 2 years was difficult for me on the site. But I learnt that profile and the quality of the first messaging plays a vital role in standing out.. My suggestion was just for other guys who are finding it hard on here. | |||
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"Oh wow OP sounds like the start of a very slippery slope you’re proposing there. What do you propose after single guys ..... redheads, bisexuals, tall/short, fat/thin etc etc ? All members have their own preferences at the moment. As a single guy myself it became very apparent from the get go I was up against it with regard to getting meets and in a perverse way that was the impetus to make me myself more desirable/acceptable as a potential friend/lover." Yea like I said it was just a humble opinion.. That sounded good in my head but it turns out that's an unpopular opinion | |||
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"Oh wow OP sounds like the start of a very slippery slope you’re proposing there. What do you propose after single guys ..... redheads, bisexuals, tall/short, fat/thin etc etc ? All members have their own preferences at the moment. As a single guy myself it became very apparent from the get go I was up against it with regard to getting meets and in a perverse way that was the impetus to make me myself more desirable/acceptable as a potential friend/lover. Yea like I said it was just a humble opinion.. That sounded good in my head but it turns out that's an unpopular opinion " Don’t beat yourself up OP you opinion is not the worst I’ve seen on here, pretty close but NOT the worst ! | |||
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"I don't think there are to many of us OP . There is only one of me and that is what matters . If women want to choose someone else to correspond with then that's their choice and I can't influence their choice by eliminating others .Many men will never be successful on fab because of their approach and fewer numbers won't change that . " Absolutely agree. You don’t educate women/couples in the error of their ways by restricting their choice | |||
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"I don't think there are to many of us OP . There is only one of me and that is what matters . If women want to choose someone else to correspond with then that's their choice and I can't influence their choice by eliminating others .Many men will never be successful on fab because of their approach and fewer numbers won't change that . " Hmmm | |||
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"Oh wow OP sounds like the start of a very slippery slope you’re proposing there. What do you propose after single guys ..... redheads, bisexuals, tall/short, fat/thin etc etc ? All members have their own preferences at the moment. As a single guy myself it became very apparent from the get go I was up against it with regard to getting meets and in a perverse way that was the impetus to make me myself more desirable/acceptable as a potential friend/lover. Yea like I said it was just a humble opinion.. That sounded good in my head but it turns out that's an unpopular opinion Don’t beat yourself up OP you opinion is not the worst I’ve seen on here, pretty close but NOT the worst !" Haha | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes "here here for some it's a lifeline might be the only contact they have | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes here here for some it's a lifeline might be the only contact they have "especially in the last 18 months | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes here here for some it's a lifeline might be the only contact they have
especially in the last 18 months"Site is fine as it is. Why change it. | |||
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"I don't think there are to many of us OP . There is only one of me and that is what matters . If women want to choose someone else to correspond with then that's their choice and I can't influence their choice by eliminating others .Many men will never be successful on fab because of their approach and fewer numbers won't change that . " spot on | |||
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"I don't think there are to many of us OP . There is only one of me and that is what matters . If women want to choose someone else to correspond with then that's their choice and I can't influence their choice by eliminating others .Many men will never be successful on fab because of their approach and fewer numbers won't change that . " Absolutely spot on. The suggestion of reducing the number of single men on the site falls into the same category as those who try to make themselves look better by putting others down. As many have said, the number of men makes absolutely no difference. I'm wondering if the origins of this idea is perhaps along the lines of thinking that women actually go searching on fab and that the OP might stand a better chance of being spotted in a search if the numbers were lower. Who knows? What I do know is that the numbers make no difference. | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "Right, so us women are stuck with the same men that send the same crap messages, the same shit profiles with no chance of ever getting any fresh men simply because some men on here don't like competition? No thankyou. | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "presume that the site should let you stay but not for others. Somewhat unfair and biased to single guys. | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us.
Right, so us women are stuck with the same men that send the same crap messages, the same shit profiles with no chance of ever getting any fresh men simply because some men on here don't like competition?
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us.
Right, so us women are stuck with the same men that send the same crap messages, the same shit profiles with no chance of ever getting any fresh men simply because some men on here don't like competition?
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " I won't dispute the claim of 10 :1 but wonder where you get the figure? Maybe it's higher? | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "Oh I disagree...Fab should not ban all single men...that would mean a lot less cock pics...  ...doesn't bear thinking about!!  | |||
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"Even reducing the numbers of single guys doesn't automatically mean your going to get a meet ...... if I get a 100 messages and none meet what im looking for then thats a 100 no thanks so dropping to 50 only means I send less no thanks "You are a star to send out "thank but no" messages. Not everyone does that because of the time they would spend doing it. | |||
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"it would surely make more sense to recruit & attract more women to the site rather than reduce the number of men ? " That's going to be hard work as the attrition rate must be high when women are bombarded with moronic messages on joining and leave as a result. | |||
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"it would surely make more sense to recruit & attract more women to the site rather than reduce the number of men ? That's going to be hard work as the attrition rate must be high when women are bombarded with moronic messages on joining and leave as a result. " Ding ding ding! Winner winner, chicken dinner. My other half knew how fab works via our couples account and is more than happy to meet solo but she has little interest in using fab directly or even talking to.men on here due to how bad it is. Within 5 mins of activating her account (litterally before adding any photos or profile info) she had about 50 messages in her inbox from guys, many of which had completely unsolicited dick pics. Shes not even interested in meeting guys and that was written on her profile. Obvisouly setting up her filters fixed that but that would be more than enough to put a lot of people off. Fab needs an overhaul....badly. Even its it's just a case of setting up message filters during the profile.activation process rather than after, would be a start. The filters do work and get the job done but if youre a mobile user, they're not exactly intuitive. I,m not here to say who can or can not be on the site but the more single.female accounts you check out, the more you see many of the serious ladies stick to just the clubs now. Were we not planning on.leaving fab but we are certainly looking for a better place that connects couples and bi fems and that looks like clubs and socials, not fab these days. | |||
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It's a free to use site that's fairly freely open. The onus is on us here to do due diligence and make appropriate filtering of others, so that we find those who likely match our needs. Ignore those who aren't photo or other verified, if you want to. Not everyone is here for active sexual partners recruitment - it has a lot more to offer. | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "Well if you're offering to leave and leave some enough room for the rest it would be a gentleman thing to do | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " Since your suggestioning but still remain wouldn't this be adding to the problem I'm just figuring out how to justify your actions to fit in a solution I'm sure it's a starting point weighs up the odds just a little | |||
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here.
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"There's always going to be more men than woman that's just the way it is. Why limit the number of guys? If you don't want to meet a single guy then you can set your account accordingly but if you do, why put a limit on the ones to pick from. Those guys pay to be on here so take away that revenue stream and the rest of us would probably have to pay more. This and other "swinging" sites are never going to be perfect and will always need a little tweak every now and then but limiting single guys is much more than a little tweak." Yea I understand that..Tbh I can also say, there is a possibility for the site to go dead if the number of single guys is capped... | |||
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"The best men may have yet to join. The current men are just a tiny minority of men, so could be the best or worst, etc. Choice is what makes the site work. Self-selection gets rid of many here who find they can't cut it. Turnover of users is quite high, from newer users, who have unrealistic expectations and won't invest the effort it needs. But it needs the new guys to come here, to replenish those who fail to match what others want or match their own demands. Without new guys the site would become stale. You can see the low standards of many men, even under the high levels of competition. It would probably fall a lot, if competition was reduced
It's a free to use site that's fairly freely open. The onus is on us here to do due diligence and make appropriate filtering of others, so that we find those who likely match our needs. Ignore those who aren't photo or other verified, if you want to. Not everyone is here for active sexual partners recruitment - it has a lot more to offer. "To some extent I agree with you. The last sentence is an eye opener. Thanks | |||
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"No one said anything about a pity shag. That's very unattractive...I like to think that We live in a civilised society and everyone is entitled to my opinion... I'm surprised at the number of men that oppose the idea but hey ho it's an eye opener to me...I kind of see it from your perspective and your reasons are very logical, it's another angle. Below is also one of the reasons that made me suggest this: Alot of women like the attention from 1000 men, especially women with confidence issues....so some of them might prefer to have the ratio of men to women on here to be like a million to 1.. just so they can say to their friends see I have over a thousand men messaging me as a confidence boost. Also because they know that in the real world no chance on earth would they have a thousand men show interest in them. My opinion is just what is it: MY OPINION. You have yours and i have mine.. The moderator probably won't do anything about it because they can tell its a biased suggestion and I know its biased.. You are all free to have your own opinion." Ah Ok, so now you're speaking for women and telling us we are so desperate for you horny men to give us attention because we are too ugly to get that attention in the real world? Yet you're the one asking for less men because you don't like competition? I kinda of tried to feel abit of sympathy for you until you came out with that nonsense. You're entitled to your opinion but you should remember, sometimes bitches bite back, especially when you insult the very demographic you're trying to appeal to.  | |||
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"There's always going to be more men than woman that's just the way it is. Why limit the number of guys? If you don't want to meet a single guy then you can set your account accordingly but if you do, why put a limit on the ones to pick from. Those guys pay to be on here so take away that revenue stream and the rest of us would probably have to pay more. This and other "swinging" sites are never going to be perfect and will always need a little tweak every now and then but limiting single guys is much more than a little tweak." The issue is the number of guys who are using the site for free..gives them a licence to use and abuse..which puts genuine Single makes to shame. If anything I would take away the free option and make everyone a site supporter. It would lower the numbers of site members .However, it would mean I think a lot less dick heads and time wasters on the site. It may also increase revenue for site owners? Currently as far as reputations go Fan doesn't score highly as something that is worth all the effort and trawling through time wasters and fame profiles . If word got out the site actually worked not just for couples and a everyone has a fair chance ..people would join up in bigger numbers perhaps? | |||
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"There's always going to be more men than woman that's just the way it is. Why limit the number of guys? If you don't want to meet a single guy then you can set your account accordingly but if you do, why put a limit on the ones to pick from. Those guys pay to be on here so take away that revenue stream and the rest of us would probably have to pay more. This and other "swinging" sites are never going to be perfect and will always need a little tweak every now and then but limiting single guys is much more than a little tweak. The issue is the number of guys who are using the site for free..gives them a licence to use and abuse..which puts genuine Single makes to shame. If anything I would take away the free option and make everyone a site supporter. It would lower the numbers of site members .However, it would mean I think a lot less dick heads and time wasters on the site. It may also increase revenue for site owners? Currently as far as reputations go Fan doesn't score highly as something that is worth all the effort and trawling through time wasters and fame profiles . If word got out the site actually worked not just for couples and a everyone has a fair chance ..people would join up in bigger numbers perhaps? " The good men stand out a mile when there are more dickheads around. | |||
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"No one said anything about a pity shag. That's very unattractive...I like to think that We live in a civilised society and everyone is entitled to my opinion... I'm surprised at the number of men that oppose the idea but hey ho it's an eye opener to me...I kind of see it from your perspective and your reasons are very logical, it's another angle. Below is also one of the reasons that made me suggest this: Alot of women like the attention from 1000 men, especially women with confidence issues....so some of them might prefer to have the ratio of men to women on here to be like a million to 1.. just so they can say to their friends see I have over a thousand men messaging me as a confidence boost. Also because they know that in the real world no chance on earth would they have a thousand men show interest in them. My opinion is just what is it: MY OPINION. You have yours and i have mine.. The moderator probably won't do anything about it because they can tell its a biased suggestion and I know its biased.. You are all free to have your own opinion." So I'm guessing you forgot about the gay bi and TS and bi curious people who are attracted to men with you just weighing up the odds for women I'm neither gay bi or bi curious but doesn't everyone have the right to be here my opinion attached with everyone else | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways " But these 1000 messages might be nothing that would be interesting to the female as females have preferences it's not all about messages but if they find them attractive everyone fits in somewhere with someone. | |||
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"The good men stand out a mile when there are more dickheads around. " Nailed it! | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways But these 1000 messages might be nothing that would be interesting to the female as females have preferences it's not all about messages but if they find them attractive everyone fits in somewhere with someone." Good point | |||
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"I'm perfectly capable of using the filters so I don't receive messages from thousands of men I'm not interested in. I can politely decline those who are within the parameters of my filters, who are not what I'm looking for. I've managed to meet quite a few men by using those filters." This, apparently we need limiting with the amount of men we are allowed to have access to because God forbid should we be allowed more attention than the OP thinks we deserve. Back to the kitchen with you wench! | |||
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"I'm perfectly capable of using the filters so I don't receive messages from thousands of men I'm not interested in. I can politely decline those who are within the parameters of my filters, who are not what I'm looking for. I've managed to meet quite a few men by using those filters." Oo Nice | |||
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"Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "If you're distinctive, polite and patient, you have value here. Socials are starting up again. Get to know people properly and things start to happen. | |||
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If you're distinctive, polite and patient, you have value here. Socials are starting up again. Get to know people properly and things start to happen. "Nice | |||
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"Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us.
If you're distinctive, polite and patient, you have value here. Socials are starting up again. Get to know people properly and things start to happen. "I think that's true..but quite a lot of guys are fed up trying to swim against the tide of idiots and time wasters and cant really be bothered anymore.. | |||
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"Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us.
If you're distinctive, polite and patient, you have value here. Socials are starting up again. Get to know people properly and things start to happen.
I think that's true..but quite a lot of guys are fed up trying to swim against the tide of idiots and time wasters and cant really be bothered anymore..
"Yes mate you are right.. You spend 3 months getting to know a couple only for them to ghost on you in a hotel you paid £150 in a city that's 80 miles away hahaha. But u gotta keep the faith, there are genuine People on fabs, positivity is key.. | |||
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"If you want the numbers to become more equal just stop single guys from sending first messages. Job done. S Woah woah. How about some single guys are allowed to send first message. Like if you've spent so so amount of time on the sit or if you have say 30 verifications + then you're entitled to send first message.. That is a biased suggestion btw lol To be fair your suggestions are biased too." so true or find a site with less men on and more women, very diverse lot on here | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " | |||
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"So you are listed as,A,MAN not a couple or a trans person so you must think its ok to join a swingers site or in your mind its place to get laid for next to nowt! " It's a free world. Anyone can say or think however they like..As a lady pointed out earlier. People use this site for different reasons...Not just sex... The reason you're on here is different from mine.... Enjoy the Sunny day | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " The ratio is probably much higher than 10 to 1. Certainly seems that way in our area. Within a 20 mile radius of us: Searching single women brings up around 90 women who have been active in the last 48 hours. Searching single guys its 360 active within the last hour (360 being the cap it seems for searching) Searching couples brings up about 200 accounts active in the last 10 hours. Have whatever opinion you like about all the single guys on fab but the numbers prove its disproportionate. There isnt a snowballs chance in hell they are all getting meets. If they are, I feel truely sorry for whoever is taking that gangbang on lol. At the end of the day, the message filters do their job and no one here has the right to say who can and cant join the site.Completely agree those are some seriously disproportionate numbers but unless couples and single ladies start using another platform (that takes user numbers and balance into account), nothing is likely to change. Fab will only act when Fab starts to lose money and obviously they are not right now. | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. The ratio is probably much higher than 10 to 1. Certainly seems that way in our area. Within a 20 mile radius of us: Searching single women brings up around 90 women who have been active in the last 48 hours. Searching single guys its 360 active within the last hour (360 being the cap it seems for searching) Searching couples brings up about 200 accounts active in the last 10 hours. Have whatever opinion you like about all the single guys on fab but the numbers prove its disproportionate. There isnt a snowballs chance in hell they are all getting meets. If they are, I feel truely sorry for whoever is taking that gangbang on lol. At the end of the day, the message filters do their job and no one here has the right to say who can and cant join the site.Completely agree those are some seriously disproportionate numbers but unless couples and single ladies start using another platform (that takes user numbers and balance into account), nothing is likely to change. Fab will only act when Fab starts to lose money and obviously they are not right now." Well said | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " Do the honerable thing and practice what you preach, delete your account to make existing single guys more valuable | |||
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" I always try and be positive towards guys who message me but without verifications. I suggests how they might improve their profiles to attract a good reaction. It works most of the time and they are grateful. Months later I see a string of verifications and improved profiles. Maybe we ladies can help these guys once in awhile." You are a sweetie | |||
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" I always try and be positive towards guys who message me but without verifications. I suggests how they might improve their profiles to attract a good reaction. It works most of the time and they are grateful. Months later I see a string of verifications and improved profiles. Maybe we ladies can help these guys once in awhile." You are a hero | |||
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"There's always going to be more men than woman that's just the way it is. Why limit the number of guys? If you don't want to meet a single guy then you can set your account accordingly but if you do, why put a limit on the ones to pick from. Those guys pay to be on here so take away that revenue stream and the rest of us would probably have to pay more. This and other "swinging" sites are never going to be perfect and will always need a little tweak every now and then but limiting single guys is much more than a little tweak. Yea I understand that..Tbh I can also say, there is a possibility for the site to go dead if the number of single guys is capped... " There you go you've answered the question if you reduce the number of single male members you're likely to close down the whole site and what will that solve absolutely nothing. | |||
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"Would it be possible to ask , on Fab some women say that they will only meet men who are verified by a meet , how are men ment to get a verification meet if they can’t get a meet to begin with ? this comment isn’t to offend , I would just like to understand. " A single meet isn't your only option for verification. 1) Become webcam verified (simplest to do). 2) Attend a social event. 3) Attend a club. The women that will only meet verified accounts are well within their right to do so. A lot of people (us included) have negative past experience's with people who are not verified. Not showing up, time wasting etc etc. Photo verification is just that. Just a photo which can be easily faked these days. Getting double verified is just an extra level of showing you are who you claim to be. It's not a guarantee to get meets of course but it's a good start to showing you're serious because you have gone through the extra steps. | |||
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"Would it be possible to ask , on Fab some women say that they will only meet men who are verified by a meet , how are men ment to get a verification meet if they can’t get a meet to begin with ? this comment isn’t to offend , I would just like to understand. " You can get verified via webcam by any gender  | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "No thanks | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes "How do dormant accounts affect the imbalance? The fact that they are dormant means they have zero effect. | |||
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"I agree that any dormant account that hasn't been used in over a year should be removed from the site, including couples and singles. But for some, this site is a lifeline and their only communication and contact with others wanting to be in these kind of circles. Just because they haven't met anyone, doesn't mean they aren't using the site correctly. We all use the site as we see fit and for our own purposes
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"If you can't take the competition or play safe in a pandemic may I politely suggest your type be banished to make way? Dear oh dear, why do guys like you pop up like whack a mole all too often. Accept the site as is simply go (thanks). "I wont reply to that. Read my comments above....God bless | |||
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"Would it be possible to ask , on Fab some women say that they will only meet men who are verified by a meet , how are men ment to get a verification meet if they can’t get a meet to begin with ? this comment isn’t to offend , I would just like to understand. A single meet isn't your only option for verification. 1) Become webcam verified (simplest to do). 2) Attend a social event. 3) Attend a club. The women that will only meet verified accounts are well within their right to do so. A lot of people (us included) have negative past experience's with people who are not verified. Not showing up, time wasting etc etc. Photo verification is just that. Just a photo which can be easily faked these days. Getting double verified is just an extra level of showing you are who you claim to be. It's not a guarantee to get meets of course but it's a good start to showing you're serious because you have gone through the extra steps. I’m not here to be fake , no point to it , I’m a real guy , would any ladies be able to verify me by webcam at all ? " | |||
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"I think fabs should no longer let single men create an account.. Also, all the accounts owned by single men thats not been photo verified or had a meet in the last 3 years should be deleted. Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us. "Fair comment bye everyone | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted" I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. " Fair Enough | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. " Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site" For real? | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be?" The end result would surely be a Hunger Games-style tournament where the active ‘genuine’ men left are expected to fight to the death on an island armed only with giant dildos. The final 10 are crowned champions and have one harvest cycle in which to be chosen by the women before membership is reopened and another tournament arranged. At this point the previous 10 champions are sent off to fabguys to reflect on their life choices. | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " Then why not lead by example and remove your profile hmmmmm? | |||
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"Users, male or female, always have a value to website owners." Agreed! | |||
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"Tell me, what do you think the end result of your proposal would be? The end result would surely be a Hunger Games-style tournament where the active ‘genuine’ men left are expected to fight to the death on an island armed only with giant dildos. The final 10 are crowned champions and have one harvest cycle in which to be chosen by the women before membership is reopened and another tournament arranged. At this point the previous 10 champions are sent off to fabguys to reflect on their life choices. " No idea why but this made me think that it would appear a little to gay and happy!!lol | |||
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"Users, male or female, always have a value to website owners. Agreed!" | |||
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"The solution is simple, and effective, and potentially loses money, so it will never be implemented. Better filtering, so you only ever see, get seen or receive messages by people who match a criteria set by you. Had a meet in the last x amount of months. Has a display picture Has more than x amount of photos. But all these filters would mean the guys that use fab as a porn site, would eventually stop being able to see people who’s settings didn’t match, and would cancel supporter status. Why bother if the only profiles you can see are mostly fakes, or women who made an account to catch an ex cheating and sign in once in a while to sass people. Personally, I’d up the price of those features to cover the cost of the lost subscriptions, but that could get wild seeing as a lot of guys join and sign up purely to send dick pics to unsuspecting girls. " That is a solution I agree with. I could marry you
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site" Yeah, I think some people have to, not sure what the criteria is, maybe from the same IP address. | |||
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"Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site For real?" I kid you not! "Yeah, I think some people have to, not sure what the criteria is, maybe from the same IP address." I very much doubt that's it. Unless fab has logged my IP address from over a year ago, though I was of the understanding that my IP address was dynamic (i.e. not fixed) and would unlikely be the same as around a year ago. I just assumed that fab had made it mandatory for new members to photo verify, as I've also noticed the additional security measures at login | |||
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"Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site For real? I kid you not! Yeah, I think some people have to, not sure what the criteria is, maybe from the same IP address. I very much doubt that's it. Unless fab has logged my IP address from over a year ago, though I was of the understanding that my IP address was dynamic (i.e. not fixed) and would unlikely be the same as around a year ago. I just assumed that fab had made it mandatory for new members to photo verify, as I've also noticed the additional security measures at login" I'm sure one of the mods explained it once, that some people have to photo verify, I don't know why | |||
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"Would it be possible to ask , on Fab some women say that they will only meet men who are verified by a meet , how are men ment to get a verification meet if they can’t get a meet to begin with ? this comment isn’t to offend , I would just like to understand. " I've met unverified men. You may be asked to verify you are the person on your profile before someone will meet you though. | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site Yeah, I think some people have to, not sure what the criteria is, maybe from the same IP address." Thats interesting. Do you mind sharing why you dont want to get photo verified. I mean in your case, you have so many verification I dont think anyone would doubt you are genuine. | |||
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"Single men no longer have a value on fabs because there's too many of us.
If you're distinctive, polite and patient, you have value here. Socials are starting up again. Get to know people properly and things start to happen.
I think that's true..but quite a lot of guys are fed up trying to swim against the tide of idiots and time wasters and cant really be bothered anymore..
Yes mate you are right.. You spend 3 months getting to know a couple only for them to ghost on you in a hotel you paid £150 in a city that's 80 miles away hahaha.
But u gotta keep the faith, there are genuine People on fabs, positivity is key.."Had to laugh: I got ghosted at a Travel Inn in Cornwall. There was suspicious stains on the stool and sofa from previous visitors (cum stains) and used the 100% satisfaction promise to get a full refund.. Worked out well as I left and bumped into a couple not far away at a dogging spot and stayed the night with them. | |||
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"All accounts that have no photo verification after 2 weeks of being created should be deleted I've been on here years and I have no intention of getting photo verified, the site owners have also repeatedly said that they aren't going to make photo verification mandatory. Interesting, as when I came back to fab a couple of weeks ago, I had to go through Photo verification process to gain access to the site Yeah, I think some people have to, not sure what the criteria is, maybe from the same IP address. Thats interesting. Do you mind sharing why you dont want to get photo verified. I mean in your case, you have so many verification I dont think anyone would doubt you are genuine. " I don't feel the need, personally, I don't think photo verification stops fakes or idiots. | |||
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"Look at it another way. If, as a single guy, you get a meet, you have competed against 100's in your area and been sucessful. If there were an even ratio of men to women, or even worse more women than men, your achievement would be diluted. If the ratio of women to men was 10:1, meeting wouldn't neccesarily be easier and any meets you did get would be a hollow victory. Out of the millions of sperm that your dad chucked out, you were the succcessful one that got to the egg. You are already a winner in the game of life. " | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways " But it’s up to me to decide which messages have value. Some guys meet and don’t swap veris so they appear quiet but they are actually active. Removing dormant profiles won’t reduce the number of messages women get. Not seeing any good reason to do this. | |||
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"Wouldn't the answer be to get more women on the site? Ask your sisters, mums, aunties. Ask your mate's girlfriends, boss at work, the woman in the corner shop. Get them all shagging on here. "that's the solution bring more women with you. i closed my single account the other week and i was getting meetings and offers just way too much hassle and running around, i will just have a couples account from now on, there's a bit about me at the bottom if any are interested | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways But it’s up to me to decide which messages have value. Some guys meet and don’t swap veris so they appear quiet but they are actually active. Removing dormant profiles won’t reduce the number of messages women get. Not seeing any good reason to do this. " I say this in all due respect but the sites not just about you. I totally appreciate your right to pick and choose who you respond to. That is not in debate. But what we do need to debate is that many of those guys are not going to get meet and they're not of interest to a lot of other users on the site. No matter how you look at it, when it's something like 3 or 400 men to each single.l lady on the site (which is certainly.the ratio in our area) at least 95%% of those guys are not getting a meet. Now it's easy to say "just use your message filters" but this last month we have had to deal with a lot of fake couples account. How on earth they are getting verified I do not not know but last week alone we where contact by 4 "couples accounts" that turned out to just be single guys, one of whom had the gall to say he did it just so couples would talk to him as no one was responding to his single male account. There is absolutely no way you can have this discussion without sounding elitist or without sounding like you want to kick single guys off the site (we dont) but the reality is, its having a negative in effect. The site is absoultely swamped by single fellas and so.e of them are quite slimy individuals indeed. When single women are in high demand and short supply and a good chunk of couples are not interested in single guys maybe some limitations so need to be put in place? Not to stop guys joining per se but to make sure they certainly cant make fraudulent accounts so easily. | |||
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"I didnt mean it as an insult to single guys. The ratio of single guys to women is like 10:1 The less number of single guys the more valuable the existing numbers. " Well unless you are into guys, just use your filters and voila, they disappear from your _iew. | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways But it’s up to me to decide which messages have value. Some guys meet and don’t swap veris so they appear quiet but they are actually active. Removing dormant profiles won’t reduce the number of messages women get. Not seeing any good reason to do this. I say this in all due respect but the sites not just about you. I totally appreciate your right to pick and choose who you respond to. That is not in debate. But what we do need to debate is that many of those guys are not going to get meet and they're not of interest to a lot of other users on the site. No matter how you look at it, when it's something like 3 or 400 men to each single.l lady on the site (which is certainly.the ratio in our area) at least 95%% of those guys are not getting a meet. Now it's easy to say "just use your message filters" but this last month we have had to deal with a lot of fake couples account. How on earth they are getting verified I do not not know but last week alone we where contact by 4 "couples accounts" that turned out to just be single guys, one of whom had the gall to say he did it just so couples would talk to him as no one was responding to his single male account. There is absolutely no way you can have this discussion without sounding elitist or without sounding like you want to kick single guys off the site (we dont) but the reality is, its having a negative in effect. The site is absoultely swamped by single fellas and so.e of them are quite slimy individuals indeed. When single women are in high demand and short supply and a good chunk of couples are not interested in single guys maybe some limitations so need to be put in place? Not to stop guys joining per se but to make sure they certainly cant make fraudulent accounts so easily. " I think the amount of fake accounts is probably smaller than people think. I think it's pretty harsh saying many men will never meet and are not of interest to alot of site users. Alot of single females aren't interested in couples, shall we limit couples too? The site provides everything you need in order to reduce unwanted contact, yes, some people will slip through the next, but the issue isn't as big as people make it. | |||
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"I think the inbox is the real issue not the male ratio it's gets overwhelming and results in guys been deleted without replying also doesn't help when guys don't read your profile and just message or you get spammed because you haven't replied some form of been able to organise the inbox would be great "If you could only send a message once your message has been replied to, that may help in some circumstances unless they are on your friends list. | |||
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"Ok seems my opinion is unpopular oh well I only said it coz I know females that get 1000 messages from single guys.. Imagine if that dropped to 50 guys, that would give more value to those guys... 1000 guys messaging a woman reduces the chances for each of those guys But like I said its my opinion anyways But it’s up to me to decide which messages have value. Some guys meet and don’t swap veris so they appear quiet but they are actually active. Removing dormant profiles won’t reduce the number of messages women get. Not seeing any good reason to do this. I say this in all due respect but the sites not just about you. I totally appreciate your right to pick and choose who you respond to. That is not in debate. But what we do need to debate is that many of those guys are not going to get meet and they're not of interest to a lot of other users on the site. No matter how you look at it, when it's something like 3 or 400 men to each single.l lady on the site (which is certainly.the ratio in our area) at least 95%% of those guys are not getting a meet. Now it's easy to say "just use your message filters" but this last month we have had to deal with a lot of fake couples account. How on earth they are getting verified I do not not know but last week alone we where contact by 4 "couples accounts" that turned out to just be single guys, one of whom had the gall to say he did it just so couples would talk to him as no one was responding to his single male account. There is absolutely no way you can have this discussion without sounding elitist or without sounding like you want to kick single guys off the site (we dont) but the reality is, its having a negative in effect. The site is absoultely swamped by single fellas and so.e of them are quite slimy individuals indeed. When single women are in high demand and short supply and a good chunk of couples are not interested in single guys maybe some limitations so need to be put in place? Not to stop guys joining per se but to make sure they certainly cant make fraudulent accounts so easily. " I agree | |||
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"I think the inbox is the real issue not the male ratio it's gets overwhelming and results in guys been deleted without replying also doesn't help when guys don't read your profile and just message or you get spammed because you haven't replied some form of been able to organise the inbox would be great "Good point | |||
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"Thing is woman want there fantasy and there not interested in normal looking guys without a body of a god and a 12 inch dick. I'm finding it hard just to meet a single girl can't even get a 60 year old woman to start a chat which then makes u think what the fuck is wrong with me.. i get more kicky fucks off a normal dating site. " Hahah not sure that's what women want..but my opinion, you have just 1 pic of your cock and your profile doesn't exactly describe who you are and what you can offer and the ratio of men to women on this site is like 100 to 1. I've been on this site 6 years since my 19th birthday I've learnt the hard way how to use the site. You're better off going on tinder, uploading some pics of yourself and getting a cutie hehe
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"The reason for not having people stay is I have a 2 year old girl that lives with me. I can't have differnt people coming and going when I'm Discreet " | |||
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