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"Because its what the law states... " There are also laws about sex outdoors, yet outdoor sex meets have never been banned here. It's illegal to send someone a dick pic if they haven't agreed to receive one, but that goes on here all the time. If I decide to speed on the motorway, that's between me and the police. If a civilian deliberately obstructs me to make me stick to the speeding limit, they're breaking the law themselves. So maybe choosing to break the lockdown laws should be a matter between the individual and the police too, and not for contact sites to police on their behalf. I'm actually more careful than most. I was one of 3 people wearing masks in Morrisions yesterday, and most weren't bothering to distance once they were in the shop. | |||
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"It also doesn't take into consideration that these meets may be social and so distanced.... and so we can verify they're a nice human being .... tho can't verify their bedroom skills!! " The 1st June update takes that into account https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/1026660 | |||
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"There is no such thing as a ban on here have reported at least six people on here for having a meet on lockdown and they are still on site, and they are still flaunting it ." People are not banned for a first offence, they may get a warning first | |||
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"From the 4th July meeting indoors becomes according to the Prime Ministers statement in parliament yesterday one of guidance not legislation." With social distance. | |||
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"Not from next weekend it’s not " Really? How does the law change next week? | |||
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"Not from next weekend it’s not Really? How does the law change next week?" Dominic Cummings might be up for a meet ? | |||
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"On the note of this thread, i am suprised to see clubs deciding to open on 4th July! Certain that they are A) classed as a nightclub and still banned from openingby legislation along with casinos, beauticians, gyms etc, and B) cannot possibly social distance as its a sex club!? And people have it on their status they are booked in! Ia that not arranging a meet? " Those clubs large enough &/or with a alcohol license are within the guidelines to open with social distancing in place. All the club updates I've seen have been clear it's social not sex | |||
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"From the 4th July meeting indoors becomes according to the Prime Ministers statement in parliament yesterday one of guidance not legislation. With social distance. " The social distance indoors is guidance not legislation from the 4th July. | |||
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"There is no such thing as a ban on here have reported at least six people on here for having a meet on lockdown and they are still on site, and they are still flaunting it ." Report again if they are still meeting. As a mod has said they dont get banned on 1st offence, but if they are still doung it then fab needs to know and act accordingley. | |||
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"All the replies about social distancing. Have you been watching the news lately? Thousands crammed on beaches, riots, demo's, the list goes on. The police don't seem too bothered to me. Plus, it isn't a law, it's a guideline. " Some are trying to follow these guidelines as well. Hence the posts about social distancing. | |||
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"All the replies about social distancing. Have you been watching the news lately? Thousands crammed on beaches, riots, demo's, the list goes on. The police don't seem too bothered to me. Plus, it isn't a law, it's a guideline. Some are trying to follow these guidelines as well. Hence the posts about social distancing. " Well said that lady | |||
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"All the replies about social distancing. Have you been watching the news lately? Thousands crammed on beaches, riots, demo's, the list goes on. The police don't seem too bothered to me. Plus, it isn't a law, it's a guideline. " The police don't seem too bothered because how the hell can they safely disperse crowds without inflaming trouble? The country's mentality is like a tinderbox, kicking off everywhere with Police being targeted. Tbh, I wouldnt trust the judgement of people choosing to meet now in this scene. The sex scene has always brought out those seeking kicks at any cost. Now the risk isn't just personal or to those they have sex with (STDs etc), it's to friends, family and vulnerable in society. Gambling with your own life is a personal decision but it's wholly selfish when your kicks can have a wider impact on innocent lives. I'd consider it similar to d*unk driving. | |||
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"All the replies about social distancing. Have you been watching the news lately? Thousands crammed on beaches, riots, demo's, the list goes on. The police don't seem too bothered to me. Plus, it isn't a law, it's a guideline. Some are trying to follow these guidelines as well. Hence the posts about social distancing. " This! | |||
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"Luckily I'm so well endowed, I can actually have penetrative sex whilst observing social distancing guidelines! (it is 2cm apart that we're supposed to stay, isn't it?) " | |||
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"We're 3 months into Covid-19 lockdown now. Some of us have worked all the way through it (NHS staff, shop staff, drivers etc.) while I've managed to isolate but am starting to do site work again now. Those of us who can't self-isolate due to work are unavoidably exposed to strangers when doing so. I do it as safely as I can. It seems hugely unreasonable that I can't take a similarly cautious attitude to sex meets. And on sites where it isn't outright forbidden, that's what I plan to start doing. Meanwhile, my inbox here is increasingly filling with meet invites. Usually from people who don't have 8 years of photos and verifications, and site supporter status to lose. The ban threat is now unjustly penalising those of us who actually put something into the site. While a newbie with no verifications loses nothing from a ban, simply signing up with a new account the following day, we risk to lose a lot. Throughout this crisis, I've seen several sites deter meeting and remove their meeting features, but the Fab sites are the only ones I know of that have threatened account termination just for breaking the government guidelines. It might have seemed proportionate back in March, but as things ease off, it no longer does. Please remove the threat of a ban for arranging play meets." I've been working all through the lockdown, travelling all over the country and coming into contact with people in many different situations. In a lot of cases it seems to me that many people just cannot obey simple instructions;one way systems, marks and arrows painted on the floor etc, keeping safe distance (either they can't or won't). So, the only way anyone can ensure their own safety is to use their own judgement and take their own precautions. It could be argued that this could also apply to more intimate meets. Each person making their own judgement about what risk is posed by and to the people they're meeting,,,,,,except,unfortunately there is one element that none of us can control. That is asymptomatic infection. You,or the person/s you meet,may be carrying the virus without even knowing it. This seems to me to be a good reason to avoid getting too close to strangers until testing and contact tracing is up and running and demonstrably effective. | |||
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"I really can't understand the urgency some people have to get meetings organised etc. The threat is far from over, and very very real, albeit rules have been relaxed as regards social distancing. Fab to my mind have done a great job to date and will relax their rules further as and when they feel it is ok to do so with due regard to updates from the government " Totally agree with you, well said. X | |||
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"I really can't understand the urgency some people have to get meetings organised etc. The threat is far from over, and very very real, albeit rules have been relaxed as regards social distancing. Fab to my mind have done a great job to date and will relax their rules further as and when they feel it is ok to do so with due regard to updates from the government Totally agree with you, well said. X" | |||
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"On the note of this thread, i am suprised to see clubs deciding to open on 4th July! Certain that they are A) classed as a nightclub and still banned from openingby legislation along with casinos, beauticians, gyms etc, and B) cannot possibly social distance as its a sex club!? And people have it on their status they are booked in! Ia that not arranging a meet? Those clubs large enough &/or with a alcohol license are within the guidelines to open with social distancing in place. All the club updates I've seen have been clear it's social not sex " | |||
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"We're 3 months into Covid-19 lockdown now. Some of us have worked all the way through it (NHS staff, shop staff, drivers etc.) while I've managed to isolate but am starting to do site work again now. Those of us who can't self-isolate due to work are unavoidably exposed to strangers when doing so. I do it as safely as I can. It seems hugely unreasonable that I can't take a similarly cautious attitude to sex meets. And on sites where it isn't outright forbidden, that's what I plan to start doing. Meanwhile, my inbox here is increasingly filling with meet invites. Usually from people who don't have 8 years of photos and verifications, and site supporter status to lose. The ban threat is now unjustly penalising those of us who actually put something into the site. While a newbie with no verifications loses nothing from a ban, simply signing up with a new account the following day, we risk to lose a lot. Throughout this crisis, I've seen several sites deter meeting and remove their meeting features, but the Fab sites are the only ones I know of that have threatened account termination just for breaking the government guidelines. It might have seemed proportionate back in March, but as things ease off, it no longer does. Please remove the threat of a ban for arranging play meets." I agree with you | |||
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"On the note of this thread, i am suprised to see clubs deciding to open on 4th July! Certain that they are A) classed as a nightclub and still banned from openingby legislation along with casinos, beauticians, gyms etc, and B) cannot possibly social distance as its a sex club!? And people have it on their status they are booked in! Ia that not arranging a meet? Those clubs large enough &/or with a alcohol license are within the guidelines to open with social distancing in place. All the club updates I've seen have been clear it's social not sex " No they are not! Nightclubs are not allowed to open on 4th July even if they can follow social distancing guidance. | |||
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"There is no such thing as a ban on here have reported at least six people on here for having a meet on lockdown and they are still on site, and they are still flaunting it . People are not banned for a first offence, they may get a warning first" Loads of people have "meet now" in updates and have done for a while and keep doing it. Admin don't do and haven't done anything about most of them. | |||
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"On the note of this thread, i am suprised to see clubs deciding to open on 4th July! Certain that they are A) classed as a nightclub and still banned from openingby legislation along with casinos, beauticians, gyms etc, and B) cannot possibly social distance as its a sex club!? And people have it on their status they are booked in! Ia that not arranging a meet? Those clubs large enough &/or with a alcohol license are within the guidelines to open with social distancing in place. All the club updates I've seen have been clear it's social not sex No they are not! Nightclubs are not allowed to open on 4th July even if they can follow social distancing guidance. " I haven't seen any clubs opening as a nightclub nor before the 4th of july. They are opening as a pub and those lucky enough to have hotel rooms, as a hotel. Which IS within the guidelines. No one is forcing people in, those that want to go and socialise & support their clubs will. Those that dont, wont. The club's are liaising with their local councils | |||
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"We're 3 months into Covid-19 lockdown now. Some of us have worked all the way through it (NHS staff, shop staff, drivers etc.) while I've managed to isolate but am starting to do site work again now. Those of us who can't self-isolate due to work are unavoidably exposed to strangers when doing so. I do it as safely as I can. It seems hugely unreasonable that I can't take a similarly cautious attitude to sex meets. And on sites where it isn't outright forbidden, that's what I plan to start doing. Meanwhile, my inbox here is increasingly filling with meet invites. Usually from people who don't have 8 years of photos and verifications, and site supporter status to lose. The ban threat is now unjustly penalising those of us who actually put something into the site. While a newbie with no verifications loses nothing from a ban, simply signing up with a new account the following day, we risk to lose a lot. Throughout this crisis, I've seen several sites deter meeting and remove their meeting features, but the Fab sites are the only ones I know of that have threatened account termination just for breaking the government guidelines. It might have seemed proportionate back in March, but as things ease off, it no longer does. Please remove the threat of a ban for arranging play meets." Which is more important to you, your lifestyle being the need to get the todger into work and ignoring the ban threat, or your life. The lockdown under the prevention of deadly virus epidemic/pandemic was brought in to protect us all, this won't officially lift until 1st August can you not wait As for the ban, it should be enforced | |||
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"We're 3 months into Covid-19 lockdown now. Some of us have worked all the way through it (NHS staff, shop staff, drivers etc.) while I've managed to isolate but am starting to do site work again now. Those of us who can't self-isolate due to work are unavoidably exposed to strangers when doing so. I do it as safely as I can. It seems hugely unreasonable that I can't take a similarly cautious attitude to sex meets. And on sites where it isn't outright forbidden, that's what I plan to start doing. Meanwhile, my inbox here is increasingly filling with meet invites. Usually from people who don't have 8 years of photos and verifications, and site supporter status to lose. The ban threat is now unjustly penalising those of us who actually put something into the site. While a newbie with no verifications loses nothing from a ban, simply signing up with a new account the following day, we risk to lose a lot. Throughout this crisis, I've seen several sites deter meeting and remove their meeting features, but the Fab sites are the only ones I know of that have threatened account termination just for breaking the government guidelines. It might have seemed proportionate back in March, but as things ease off, it no longer does. Please remove the threat of a ban for arranging play meets. Which is more important to you, your lifestyle being the need to get the todger into work and ignoring the ban threat, or your life. The lockdown under the prevention of deadly virus epidemic/pandemic was brought in to protect us all, this won't officially lift until 1st August can you not wait As for the ban, it should be enforced " As far as I can see on here, it is enforced. And rightly so. Perhaps the OP should stick to the other sites if he is that desparate for sex. | |||
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"The virtue signalling is kind of expected. It's so easy to be Mister or Little Miss Perfect online. I wonder how many practise what they preach in real life. I could almost believe that it is a minority that doesn't care, until I go around Morrisons and realise I'm one of about 5% of people actually bothering with masks, and I'm sharing a space with people who are only distancing when forced to while queuing for entrance or the checkouts. Lockdown is, for all intents and purposes, over. For now, at least. We have moved to a supposed social distancing phase. So why, when people are packing Bournemouth beach so tightly that you can't see an inch of sand in the photos, are we still focusing our contempt on people who want to have a risk aware shag? It's been over 3 months now. It could go on for another 3 or more. It could go on forever if we don't get a viable vaccine. We might be just round the corner from another full lockdown if the R value spikes, in which case, maybe we should be taking advantage of the relatively relaxed rules now. And if it does spike again, it'll be the beachgoers congregating in their thousands rather than Fabbers meeting one person at a time for sex, that's to blame." I think you will find the vast majority of 'Mister perfect or little miss perfects DO practice what they preach. If you're that desperate for sex then go right ahead but don't expect Fab as a web site to condone your choice to ignore all the advice that is given | |||
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"The virtue signalling is kind of expected. It's so easy to be Mister or Little Miss Perfect online. I wonder how many practise what they preach in real life. I could almost believe that it is a minority that doesn't care, until I go around Morrisons and realise I'm one of about 5% of people actually bothering with masks, and I'm sharing a space with people who are only distancing when forced to while queuing for entrance or the checkouts. Lockdown is, for all intents and purposes, over. For now, at least. We have moved to a supposed social distancing phase. So why, when people are packing Bournemouth beach so tightly that you can't see an inch of sand in the photos, are we still focusing our contempt on people who want to have a risk aware shag? It's been over 3 months now. It could go on for another 3 or more. It could go on forever if we don't get a viable vaccine. We might be just round the corner from another full lockdown if the R value spikes, in which case, maybe we should be taking advantage of the relatively relaxed rules now. And if it does spike again, it'll be the beachgoers congregating in their thousands rather than Fabbers meeting one person at a time for sex, that's to blame." Crowding on a beach or round a football stadium, going to pubs, meeting for intimate encounters,,,, all potentially risky activities. If you feel you can trust the person you're meeting, and they can trust you, maybe just exchange phone numbers and make your arrangements that way. It's clear that fab site management don't want to be involved,maybe for fear of being held responsible if bad things happen. It's possibly a case more of covering asses than of protecting the public. | |||
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"I think you will find the vast majority of 'Mister perfect or little miss perfects DO practice what they preach. If you're that desperate for sex then go right ahead but don't expect Fab as a web site to condone your choice to ignore all the advice that is given " Really? So explain the Morrisons situation then. If that's a valid indicator, then 95% of the general public doesn't particularly give a shit about social distancing or the virus. As for "I think you will find", what I'm finding is lots of people on here asking for play meets. Probably even more than I was getting before all of this started. No, I think you will find that, amongst all of the cheats and those ashamed of their lifestyle on here, meeting on the side while claiming not to be is just one more dirty little secret. Probably the same bunch that's clapping for the NHS on a Thursday, so their neighbours can see that they care, but breaking the rules with respect to having friends and family round when they think nobody is looking. And since this is primarily a site for people seeking hookups, it's hilarious for anyone on here to call anyone else 'desperate.' | |||
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"I am not the one that is seeking a lift on advertising meetings so yes I do consider those that wish Fab to condone such meetings desperate as the vast majority on here ARE sticking with the guidelines.. " Where is your evidence? Mine is an inbox full of people seeking play meets, and several messages from people who agree with what I'm saying here, but don't wish or dare to say it on the forums. (Though for balance, one message saying that anyone breaking lockdown should be shot.) You are simply making the same statement over and over again. An assumption that you've plucked out of the air that you can never prove. | |||
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"Not from next weekend it’s not " But not in Wales | |||
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"I am not the one that is seeking a lift on advertising meetings so yes I do consider those that wish Fab to condone such meetings desperate as the vast majority on here ARE sticking with the guidelines.. Where is your evidence? Mine is an inbox full of people seeking play meets, and several messages from people who agree with what I'm saying here, but don't wish or dare to say it on the forums. (Though for balance, one message saying that anyone breaking lockdown should be shot.) You are simply making the same statement over and over again. An assumption that you've plucked out of the air that you can never prove. " Evidence? Ok then where is yours? I am not making the same statement over and over again I am making my opinions freely known, something I am entitled to do so as are you.. If you wish to go ahead and meet others then do so but as I have said all along don't expect Fab to condone your actions by going against the guidelines.. | |||
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"The virtue signalling is kind of expected. It's so easy to be Mister or Little Miss Perfect online. I wonder how many practise what they preach in real life. I could almost believe that it is a minority that doesn't care, until I go around Morrisons and realise I'm one of about 5% of people actually bothering with masks, and I'm sharing a space with people who are only distancing when forced to while queuing for entrance or the checkouts. Lockdown is, for all intents and purposes, over. For now, at least. We have moved to a supposed social distancing phase. So why, when people are packing Bournemouth beach so tightly that you can't see an inch of sand in the photos, are we still focusing our contempt on people who want to have a risk aware shag? It's been over 3 months now. It could go on for another 3 or more. It could go on forever if we don't get a viable vaccine. We might be just round the corner from another full lockdown if the R value spikes, in which case, maybe we should be taking advantage of the relatively relaxed rules now. And if it does spike again, it'll be the beachgoers congregating in their thousands rather than Fabbers meeting one person at a time for sex, that's to blame." Ha ha ha! You're 'Virtue Signalling!' The go to foot stamping tantrum for those who find themselves on the wrong side of moral debate Thank you for validating Fabs stance. And as for all of the messages requesting meets, forward them to the administrators. | |||
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"There is no such thing as a ban on here have reported at least six people on here for having a meet on lockdown and they are still on site, and they are still flaunting it . People are not banned for a first offence, they may get a warning first Loads of people have "meet now" in updates and have done for a while and keep doing it. Admin don't do and haven't done anything about most of them. " They don't check every profile, it helps if people report it so they can take a look | |||
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" And if it does spike again, it'll be the beachgoers congregating in their thousands rather than Fabbers meeting one person at a time for sex, that's to blame." That one person you meet could have it, you may not be any safer | |||
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"Evidence? Ok then where is yours? I am not making the same statement over and over again I am making my opinions freely known, something I am entitled to do so as are you.. If you wish to go ahead and meet others then do so but as I have said all along don't expect Fab to condone your actions by going against the guidelines.. " My evidence is sitting in my inbox. I could quite easily prove it, but it would be both a breach of trust and a violation of forum 'name and shame' rules to provide any details here. Now let's take each other at our word here: I have a level of interest that's at least back to pre-Covid levels, whereas you're not experiencing the same thing. Maybe it's random chance, maybe I'm getting more attention because I'm posting more pics and vids, or maybe it's regional. But while I've proven to my own satisfaction that something is going on, having witnessed it with my own eyes, you're not in a position to prove that it isn't, just because you haven't witnessed it with yours. Basically, I'm the person who's been to Australia, and you're the flat-Earther denying that it exists. | |||
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"Ha ha ha! You're 'Virtue Signalling!' The go to foot stamping tantrum for those who find themselves on the wrong side of moral debate Thank you for validating Fabs stance. And as for all of the messages requesting meets, forward them to the administrators." I suggest you Google the meaning of 'virtue signalling.' I'm actually admitting to not being virtuous and being tempted by pleasures of the flesh. It's a degree of honesty that I'm not sure is there in some other posts. Of course I'm in a position to meet. If you're stuck isolating with the wife, and no excuses to leave the house (not even work) I can see how that might breed resentment for those who are in a position to go looking for fun. That last paragraph isn't directed at anyone in particular, by the way. But I suspect some of the holier than thous wouldn't be adhering quite so strictly to lockdown if their partners weren't watching their every move. | |||
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"From the 4th July meeting indoors becomes according to the Prime Ministers statement in parliament yesterday one of guidance not legislation." 4th of July applies to England. Not elsewhere. | |||
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