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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " Apart from staying closed what can the clubs do ? | |||
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"I've just been and purchsed 200 bog rolls incase all the dickheads start stockpiling !!" ![]() | |||
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"I've just been and purchsed 200 bog rolls incase all the dickheads start stockpiling !!" So. 201 Loo rolls 'is' stockpiling? ![]() | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution you are a tonic with the cleaning and hiegen regime you partake in it's a shame a small number tar the brush of clubs keep up good work ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " I really wanted to go to a club this weekend too. But as I don't usually go I'll not bother either ![]() | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution you are a tonic with the cleaning and hiegen regime you partake in it's a shame a small number tar the brush of clubs keep up good work ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Great to see a club realising the importance of a clean club. We shall have to pay a visit to Atlantis some time soon ![]() | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution you are a tonic with the cleaning and hiegen regime you partake in it's a shame a small number tar the brush of clubs keep up good work ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You will be made very welcome. Cat X ![]() | |||
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"It's not bubonic plague ffs" My words entirely......!! | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. " This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe. | |||
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"Quite true as well, but there is also hype and over reaction. The media are loving themselves...!!" Complacency will cost lives, that's a medical fact. | |||
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"Open as normal here . . . We had a mega party last weekend, so people are still wanting to come out and play . . . been shopping all over in the last two days and all the shops and bars are just as busy. We've always had (all year round) hand-santizer all around the club and currently we are making extra effort to point it out to people particularly as they arrive in reception - during flu season we have always had a Flu Injection and Norovirus notices up. Another part of our regime that we have added currently is to Dettol Spray and wipe surfaces every half hour or so. We are not particularly worried at this stage, but we want customers to know that we have it in our minds and that we are active at hygiene. Cat X atlantisEvolution Stoke. " Very commendable, this should be normal practice anyway. | |||
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"Open as normal here . . . We had a mega party last weekend, so people are still wanting to come out and play . . . been shopping all over in the last two days and all the shops and bars are just as busy. We've always had (all year round) hand-santizer all around the club and currently we are making extra effort to point it out to people particularly as they arrive in reception - during flu season we have always had a Flu Injection and Norovirus notices up. Another part of our regime that we have added currently is to Dettol Spray and wipe surfaces every half hour or so. We are not particularly worried at this stage, but we want customers to know that we have it in our minds and that we are active at hygiene. Cat X atlantisEvolution Stoke. Very commendable, this should be normal practice anyway." Always has been lol. ![]() | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe." I absolutely understand your point regarding the vulnerable, but this virus is no different to the 20 others that preceded it. The media make money from doom and gloom, but if you look at the W.H.O statistics regarding recovery, you will see a very different picture being painted. By all means be cautious and aware, but for the love of God, dont be yet another sheep who has stockpiled enough dried pasta and bog roll for the next 6 months. | |||
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"Open as normal here . . . We had a mega party last weekend, so people are still wanting to come out and play . . . been shopping all over in the last two days and all the shops and bars are just as busy. We've always had (all year round) hand-santizer all around the club and currently we are making extra effort to point it out to people particularly as they arrive in reception - during flu season we have always had a Flu Injection and Norovirus notices up. Another part of our regime that we have added currently is to Dettol Spray and wipe surfaces every half hour or so. We are not particularly worried at this stage, but we want customers to know that we have it in our minds and that we are active at hygiene. Cat X atlantisEvolution Stoke. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe. I absolutely understand your point regarding the vulnerable, but this virus is no different to the 20 others that preceded it. The media make money from doom and gloom, but if you look at the W.H.O statistics regarding recovery, you will see a very different picture being painted. By all means be cautious and aware, but for the love of God, dont be yet another sheep who has stockpiled enough dried pasta and bog roll for the next 6 months. " I think you’ll find it’s the survivalists who mock “the sheep” who are most guilty of stockpiling ![]() | |||
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"I would say we all need to use them or lose them. They cant survive without our support." Well, I'm off out tomorrow ![]() | |||
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"I would say we all need to use them or lose them. They cant survive without our support." ![]() | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " It will get worse before it gets better.people still take risks and not do basic hygiene think of people who are vunerable. by not thinking. it is passed on touching that supermarket trolley the toilet door etc etc .then that elderly person or disabled child like mine touch that surface then touch their face ......and so the cycle goes on .alot of people have died think of them .their families. Its not just the flu .its a flu like virus that is worse .a virus they dont know about . IS it worth it?? You wear a condom for safe sex!! So isnt it better to have basic hygiene etc and thinking more serious about this | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe." Exactly. The people saying this is hyped up need to listen to the experts and doctors currently dealing with the outbreaks. Do you honestly think governments would close down whole cities and even countries and risk plunging their economics into recession if this was just like the seasonal flu? They're are doing whatever they can to slow the progression of the outbreaks so the health care system can cope. And all they are asking of the public is to be careful in the interactions with others, to not take unnecessary risks, but some can't even do that because it's a little inconvenient to them, and so the virus spreads further and more people die. | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves." That made me laugh ![]() | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves. That made me laugh ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Two weeks free holiday. And all you have to do it a fever and a cough. Just avoid old people. What’s not to like? Go out and enjoy yourselves. It’s the media selling papers. " having been on the civil service briefing call 2 hrs before the govt statement i can absolutely tell you it is certainly NOT the media selling papers.... this will get worse... just because we haven't ramped up the testing to the levels they are there.... its not great... the best thing that can happen is a flattening of the curve so that a lot of the cases will happen in the summer months... there will be more restrictions coming, they will happen bit by bit! | |||
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"Two weeks free holiday. And all you have to do it a fever and a cough. Just avoid old people. What’s not to like? Go out and enjoy yourselves. It’s the media selling papers. having been on the civil service briefing call 2 hrs before the govt statement i can absolutely tell you it is certainly NOT the media selling papers.... this will get worse... just because we haven't ramped up the testing to the levels they are there.... its not great... the best thing that can happen is a flattening of the curve so that a lot of the cases will happen in the summer months... there will be more restrictions coming, they will happen bit by bit!" Oh, go on then....bring on the gloom and doom !! Thought the virus was killed by warmer weather. You cannot have it both ways...!! | |||
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"Thought the virus was killed by warmer weather. You cannot have it both ways...!!" Covid-19 isn't killed by warmer weather, but the flu virus is. If we can have more of the cases spread out over the summer while we don't have to deal with flu at the same time there will be more critical care beds available for those that are vulnerable and need them. | |||
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"Thought the virus was killed by warmer weather. You cannot have it both ways...!! Covid-19 isn't killed by warmer weather, but the flu virus is. If we can have more of the cases spread out over the summer while we don't have to deal with flu at the same time there will be more critical care beds available for those that are vulnerable and need them. " Hmmm virologist or crystal balls ? | |||
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"If everyone thinks it’ll be quiet and therefore doesn’t go.... it’ll be quiet" ![]() | |||
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"Wonder how many people have stopped using public transport... You're more likely to catch the virus on a bus or train, where hundreds of unwashed people are jammed in like sardines, touching unclean surfaces, coughing & sneezing in each others faces, than in a clean, well run swingers club, where you choose who to get close to." What about us poor bus drivers that have to put up with people coughing and sneezing as they get on/off the bus....wish I could have the option of working from home... Del | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe. Exactly. The people saying this is hyped up need to listen to the experts and doctors currently dealing with the outbreaks. Do you honestly think governments would close down whole cities and even countries and risk plunging their economics into recession if this was just like the seasonal flu? They're are doing whatever they can to slow the progression of the outbreaks so the health care system can cope. And all they are asking of the public is to be careful in the interactions with others, to not take unnecessary risks, but some can't even do that because it's a little inconvenient to them, and so the virus spreads further and more people die." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Two weeks free holiday. And all you have to do it a fever and a cough. Just avoid old people. What’s not to like? Go out and enjoy yourselves. It’s the media selling papers. " Omg really !!!!!! | |||
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"Thought the virus was killed by warmer weather. You cannot have it both ways...!! Covid-19 isn't killed by warmer weather, but the flu virus is. If we can have more of the cases spread out over the summer while we don't have to deal with flu at the same time there will be more critical care beds available for those that are vulnerable and need them. " Covid-19 has a shorter life span in temperatures over 30 C... Many hotter countries had cases of corona | |||
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"I've just been and purchsed 200 bog rolls incase all the dickheads start stockpiling !!" What's with this loo roll stockpiling anyway? I can understand other things? | |||
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"Quite true as well, but there is also hype and over reaction. The media are loving themselves...!! Complacency will cost lives, that's a medical fact." ![]() | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " We always like to keep things spotless here but we're taking extra precautions (writen on profile) to be that little more careful ![]() | |||
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"It's not bubonic plague ffs My words entirely......!!" Absolutely true we have medication for bubonic plague, COVID-19 on the other hand..... There is a good chance many of us will get it at some point, for most it will be unpleasant and an annoyance, however there is a very good chance that some people on this site will loose loved ones. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " putting up laminated notices to say wash your hands ![]() | |||
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"Just thought we'd bump this thread back up, not that many threads on this virus on here ![]() lol. ![]() | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " wear a mask and anything you do with your hands don't ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"JAYDEES IS CLOSED THIS WEEKEND. Due to Corona Virus. We will check out next weeks news xxx We decided we would help to stop it spreading further. ![]() better stay away for 3 months just to be on safe side ![]() | |||
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"JAYDEES IS CLOSED THIS WEEKEND. Due to Corona Virus. We will check out next weeks news xxx We decided we would help to stop it spreading further. ![]() Sensible and responsible. Hopefully it won't be for long. | |||
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"Clever Clubs are stockpiling toilet rolls, due to to the fact if one person sneezes the rest of the club will shit themselves. ![]() ![]() LOVE IT ![]() ![]() | |||
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"JAYDEES IS CLOSED THIS WEEKEND. Due to Corona Virus. We will check out next weeks news xxx We decided we would help to stop it spreading further. ![]() The right decision (they will all have to do this soon)... We won't forget this when we return to clubbing in a few months... take care x | |||
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"It's not bubonic plague ffs" We know it's not but do you really want to risk becoming a infected person who put there family at risk, flu is shit when common flu. X | |||
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"JAYDEES IS CLOSED THIS WEEKEND. Due to Corona Virus. We will check out next weeks news xxx We decided we would help to stop it spreading further. ![]() Good idea | |||
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"It's not bubonic plague ffs We know it's not but do you really want to risk becoming a infected person who put there family at risk, flu is shit when common flu. X" And what do you do to avoid common flu because it's pretty common. I think the most recent report was thousands a week and tens a week dying Just saying | |||
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"Wont be stopping us this weekend. This has caused such an over reaction, just like the previous 20 years of pandemics and doom mongering. This is no over reaction, just listen to what the world health organisation are saying and it's not just about you it's about the vulnerable people with chronic health conditions that you may come in contact with, stay safe." I fit into that category and now spending my 6th day in bed with flu. I'll be waiting until the peak of the outbreak passes before venturing to clubs, of course that's when I'm well again. I think people are not taking this seriously which worries me. | |||
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"It's not bubonic plague ffs We know it's not but do you really want to risk becoming a infected person who put there family at risk, flu is shit when common flu. X" Yep, can vouch for that as on my 6th day in bed with flu ![]() | |||
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"Isn’t it airborne though and lives on surfaces for 3 days? So even if we wash our hands regularly what about everything else, hair, face etc. And although places are wiping down surfaces more often it just takes someone to breathe on it 2 seconds later. Yes most will fight it but it’s the risk of passing it on to parents and grandparents which is a problem." isolate yourself for two months its the only way ![]() | |||
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"If people are sensible then it shouldn’t be a problem. As a group I think we are pretty good at it; before this started, you never saw anyone coughing and sneezing in a club" It takes 2 - 14 days of incubation period for Covid-19 to show obvious symptoms. Do you really want to risk and have it on your conscience, that you're responsible, unknowingly spreading the virus, to someone who may have contact with someone with lower immunity who has the potential to die prematurely because people being ill-informed or irresponsible members of the community? | |||
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"If people are sensible then it shouldn’t be a problem. As a group I think we are pretty good at it; before this started, you never saw anyone coughing and sneezing in a club It takes 2 - 14 days of incubation period for Covid-19 to show obvious symptoms. Do you really want to risk and have it on your conscience, that you're responsible, unknowingly spreading the virus, to someone who may have contact with someone with lower immunity who has the potential to die prematurely because people being ill-informed or irresponsible members of the community? " the prediction though is that 80% of population will catch it surely if we're going to catch it better sooner than later, all vulnerable people isolate ![]() | |||
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"Isn’t it airborne though and lives on surfaces for 3 days? So even if we wash our hands regularly what about everything else, hair, face etc. And although places are wiping down surfaces more often it just takes someone to breathe on it 2 seconds later. Yes most will fight it but it’s the risk of passing it on to parents and grandparents which is a problem.isolate yourself for two months its the only way ![]() Was thinking more like a month than two ![]() | |||
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"We wouldn't go anywhere near a club at the moment ![]() What about the supermarket ? Thousands daily coughing all ove everything ? | |||
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"I know some clubs dont even care about cleaness of thier clubs on busy days such as bed wet of cum condoms left around and not.binned toilets unclean imagine right now with the co 19 virses it will cause a big inpact wiill clubs hire cleaning staff to cleaning more.often " Which clubs are you talking about? All we have been to have high standards of hygiene. Individuals can be skanky and not clean up after themselves,but thats their choice and not the clubs fault. | |||
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"We wouldn't go anywhere near a club at the moment ![]() Our thoughts exactly. ![]() | |||
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"We wouldn't go anywhere near a club at the moment ![]() ![]() are clubbers vulnerable people and do you have it yet? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We're off to a club to hopefully swap body fluids, bring it on ![]() you devils ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Would be interested to hear from people who went to clubs last night - were they quiet, did the way people play change, how did the club owners change things etc. We’re still planning on going to a club next weekend assuming the club or the government doesn’t say we can’t, because we have no symptoms, and no known contact with anyone with symptoms or who has travelled. We’re of the view that these small business continue to need our support, probably more so than shops because they won’t fall into the categories that are getting things like rate rebates. The health risks are serious but so are the economic impacts if we all self-isolate too quickly. Too many armchair scientists. If we ALL follow the government advice and keep up to date, we stand the best chance of minimising ALL the negative impacts. Of course if you have underlying medical conditions that make Covid-19 (rhymes with Come on Eileen) much more of a worry, then stay safe and we’ll see you in a few weeks or months. " well the news today that the UK could be in complete shutdown within the next 20 days could have a very dramatic turn in events. All pubs, clubs, restaurants and entertainment venues to close. All people aged 70 or over to self isolate for 4 months. This is now only going to get worse. | |||
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"We wouldn't go anywhere near a club at the moment ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Clubbers may or may not be vulnerable. No we don't have it yet (well no obvious signs but who knows?) However you are infectious before you show symptoms. So next time you are in a club and the woman you are fucking is screaming yes yes yes into your face she could well be passing it on to you. It's not just about vulnerable people, it's about containing the virus and keeping the total number of infections to a minimum. That is how we protect the vulnerable. Risking the spread of this just to get your dick wet is the height of irresponsibility. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this Apart from staying closed what can the clubs do ?" Clean regularly, provide anti bacterial wipes and gels.... | |||
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"Open as normal here . . . We had a mega party last weekend, so people are still wanting to come out and play . . . been shopping all over in the last two days and all the shops and bars are just as busy. We've always had (all year round) hand-santizer all around the club and currently we are making extra effort to point it out to people particularly as they arrive in reception - during flu season we have always had a Flu Injection and Norovirus notices up. Another part of our regime that we have added currently is to Dettol Spray and wipe surfaces every half hour or so. We are not particularly worried at this stage, but we want customers to know that we have it in our minds and that we are active at hygiene. Cat X atlantisEvolution Stoke. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can’t help but think that the ones staying open care more about the money than the clientele going. " Here sits the toad of truth. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this " You are not going to catch it unless you come into physical contact with someone who has it ffs | |||
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" You are not going to catch it unless you come into physical contact with someone who has it ffs" I thought you could catch it if someone with it coughed on you. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this Apart from staying closed what can the clubs do ? Clean regularly, provide anti bacterial wipes and gels...." Its a virus so it makes no difference if soaps, handgels or wipes are antibacterial. What they need is to contain a minimum of 62% alcohol. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this Apart from staying closed what can the clubs do ? Clean regularly, provide anti bacterial wipes and gels.... Its a virus so it makes no difference if soaps, handgels or wipes are antibacterial. What they need is to contain a minimum of 62% alcohol." Just hope pubs don't go on lock down then | |||
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"Can’t help but think that the ones staying open care more about the money than the clientele going. " You are as likely to catch it on a bus or in Tesco...intact perhaps more so as you've no idea the levels of cleanliness that person has. Or if they've got it but need to pop out. Those who own clubs keep them spotless, those who frequent are clean and continue their levels of cleanliness. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this You are not going to catch it unless you come into physical contact with someone who has it ffs" That's actually not true. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this Apart from staying closed what can the clubs do ? Clean regularly, provide anti bacterial wipes and gels.... Its a virus so it makes no difference if soaps, handgels or wipes are antibacterial. What they need is to contain a minimum of 62% alcohol." Anti viral then....you know what I meant. As long as they are following government guidelines that is widely publicised and the clients do too the risk is minimal | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places?" Don't go shopping then or use a cash point. 360 times more germs on those than a toilet seat... Enjoy ![]() | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places? Don't go shopping then or use a cash point. 360 times more germs on those than a toilet seat... Enjoy ![]() I would argue that food shopping is somewhat more essential than going to a swingers club. The owners of these businesses have my sympathy. Virtually everyone will be affected financially by this virus, some in a serious way. But it’s not going away, it needs to be dealt with, and is it really worth keeping businesses open at the cost of lives? It’s likely at some point that attendance will become virtually nil when a large proportion of the population is either ill, caring for those who are ill, or minding their children. Better to face reality now and save lives than continue in denial for the sake of a business that will be going under in this climate no matter what. | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this You are not going to catch it unless you come into physical contact with someone who has it ffs" Absolutely wrong. While physical contact will spread it, you are more likely to get it from touching an infected surface, sometimes hours after it has been infected. Why do you think that hand washing and sanitisers are all the rage? | |||
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"Really wanted to gp.to. club this weekend not sure if I should due to coronavirus wanted to know what are clubs doing to prevent this You are not going to catch it unless you come into physical contact with someone who has it ffs That's actually not true. " It's absolutely not true. Physical contact is not a requirement. | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx" ![]() | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can’t help but think that the ones staying open care more about the money than the clientele going. Here sits the toad of truth. " its a business what about all the self employed tradesmen, the carers, the airline companies, the countries that exist on tourism, the mortgage companies that expect to get paid every month, people have bills to pay even clubs, lets put a modicum of common sense to all this hysteria life has to go on we can't all hybernate for months, now go and buy a box of tissues ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can’t help but think that the ones staying open care more about the money than the clientele going. Here sits the toad of truth. its a business what about all the self employed tradesmen, the carers, the airline companies, the countries that exist on tourism, the mortgage companies that expect to get paid every month, people have bills to pay even clubs, lets put a modicum of common sense to all this hysteria life has to go on we can't all hybernate for months, now go and buy a box of tissues ![]() ![]() ![]() Lol | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places?" You dont catch it through sex... its airborne... hence just as much if not more using public transport. Listen to the news.. they tell you to avoid public transport. | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx" Totally agree with everything said here. Clubs work hard to provide a safe place for the swinging community and do so with very low profit margins. What Vicky has said here is a very true reality of running a swingers venue in today’s world. Thank you for being the voice of reason ![]() | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places? You dont catch it through sex... its airborne... hence just as much if not more using public transport. Listen to the news.. they tell you to avoid public transport." Using public transport may be essential for some, to access health care or supermarkets. I agree with the advice that it should be avoided if possible. Going to a swingers club is non essential. How selfish to continue for your own gratification in the face of this problem. You can tell yourself whatever you like about it being the same as the bus but when it comes down to it, it’s unnecessary and selfish. Really does make me laugh that people think shagging is the same as sitting next to someone on the bus. You’re in as close contact as two humans can get. You’re panting, you’re touching eachother. People aren’t shaking hands any more and you think fucking is still fine? | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Totally agree with everything said here. Clubs work hard to provide a safe place for the swinging community and do so with very low profit margins. What Vicky has said here is a very true reality of running a swingers venue in today’s world. Thank you for being the voice of reason ![]() I'm the bloody voice of reason around here I'll have you know ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places? You dont catch it through sex... its airborne... hence just as much if not more using public transport. Listen to the news.. they tell you to avoid public transport. Using public transport may be essential for some, to access health care or supermarkets. I agree with the advice that it should be avoided if possible. Going to a swingers club is non essential. How selfish to continue for your own gratification in the face of this problem. You can tell yourself whatever you like about it being the same as the bus but when it comes down to it, it’s unnecessary and selfish. Really does make me laugh that people think shagging is the same as sitting next to someone on the bus. You’re in as close contact as two humans can get. You’re panting, you’re touching eachother. People aren’t shaking hands any more and you think fucking is still fine?" This ![]() | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places? You dont catch it through sex... its airborne... hence just as much if not more using public transport. Listen to the news.. they tell you to avoid public transport. Using public transport may be essential for some, to access health care or supermarkets. I agree with the advice that it should be avoided if possible. Going to a swingers club is non essential. How selfish to continue for your own gratification in the face of this problem. You can tell yourself whatever you like about it being the same as the bus but when it comes down to it, it’s unnecessary and selfish. Really does make me laugh that people think shagging is the same as sitting next to someone on the bus. You’re in as close contact as two humans can get. You’re panting, you’re touching eachother. People aren’t shaking hands any more and you think fucking is still fine?" You don't have to be in intimate contact to catch the Corona virus. It can be spread by coughs and sneezes. The virus can live on surfaces which is why many businesses are doing additional cleaning. Most people work 5 days, go shopping regularly, use cash machines etc all more often than they go to Swinger's Clubs. What about all those that have contracted the virus but have never been to a Swinger's Club? Take precautions yes but unless you or close relatives are vulnerable you are likely to be safe. | |||
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"Absolutely laughable that anyone thinks going to a club is the same as being on a bus or the supermarket. I think we all know what people’s behaviours are like in clubs. You really kidding yourself that there’s no more contact than in other public places? You dont catch it through sex... its airborne... hence just as much if not more using public transport. Listen to the news.. they tell you to avoid public transport. Using public transport may be essential for some, to access health care or supermarkets. I agree with the advice that it should be avoided if possible. Going to a swingers club is non essential. How selfish to continue for your own gratification in the face of this problem. You can tell yourself whatever you like about it being the same as the bus but when it comes down to it, it’s unnecessary and selfish. Really does make me laugh that people think shagging is the same as sitting next to someone on the bus. You’re in as close contact as two humans can get. You’re panting, you’re touching eachother. People aren’t shaking hands any more and you think fucking is still fine?" You seem to enjoy having a personal pop here. I said there is little difference. If you're goin to catch it you will. Regardless of how or where you spend your time. I haven't said anyone should frequent anywhere. I think each to their own. Far too many are too opinionated on what people should and shouldn't be doing. | |||
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"Not personal, addressing my post to any person who thinks going to a club is okay right now. “ If you're goin to catch it you will.” Simply not true - look at countries that have locked down non-essential public gatherings - their infection rates are reducing. We can make a difference to what happens by changing our behaviour. It is dangerous to be so complacent." Absolutely agree, with a longer post in the Lounge thread to elaborate x | |||
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"Complacency costs lives. It might not be your life but what about the lives of those you come into contact with. Shopping is essential Work is required to earn money. Swingers clubs, cinemas, bowling alleys, restaurants etc etc are in no way essential. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Lets have a cup of tea anyone got any hobnobs lol" I've got hobnobs, but prefer coffee ![]() | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx" Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx" You have my sympathy, honestly. But the nature of your business depends on people engaging in what is being classed by most countries as non essential risky social contact. Fact is, most of the population will soon join you in this precarious situation. But yes I understand that you are not jumping at the opportunity to lose your livelihood. I would ask you this - can you see any circumstance where you won’t go under? Seems to me that a long period of uncertainty and closures is coming, it’s just a case of when. | |||
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"Complacency costs lives. It might not be your life but what about the lives of those you come into contact with. Shopping is essential Work is required to earn money. Swingers clubs, cinemas, bowling alleys, restaurants etc etc are in no way essential. " We fully agree with you on the virus, we should all take necessary precautions and if we feel unwell the self isolation is the best option. You say work is required to earn money ? For the people who own swingers clubs, cinemas, bowling alleys, restaurants and pub are all work for them and in most cases are there only form of income. You clearly do not work in the field, what about the people who do ?, how do they earn money??? We are all more likely to catch this virus either from friends and family or from work colleagues, from our experience swingers clubs are prob one of the cleanest environments to be in, and with the extra cleaning and anti bac, they are doing would feel more safer there than in a panic stricken supermarket wedged between people fighting over toilet roll. It is probably the last place you will come across anyone who is feeling unwell | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx You have my sympathy, honestly. But the nature of your business depends on people engaging in what is being classed by most countries as non essential risky social contact. Fact is, most of the population will soon join you in this precarious situation. But yes I understand that you are not jumping at the opportunity to lose your livelihood. I would ask you this - can you see any circumstance where you won’t go under? Seems to me that a long period of uncertainty and closures is coming, it’s just a case of when. " I am literally doing sums now to see how long we can cover our business and personal overheads before we are in a deficit. We will be told to close, sooner rather than later I think, but until then, we are providing the means for people to sanitise if they choose to visit and are continuing are thorough cleaning regime. When we close, I know that I would have done the best I could for the customers that chose to take the chance, for my family and my business xx | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx You have my sympathy, honestly. But the nature of your business depends on people engaging in what is being classed by most countries as non essential risky social contact. Fact is, most of the population will soon join you in this precarious situation. But yes I understand that you are not jumping at the opportunity to lose your livelihood. I would ask you this - can you see any circumstance where you won’t go under? Seems to me that a long period of uncertainty and closures is coming, it’s just a case of when. I am literally doing sums now to see how long we can cover our business and personal overheads before we are in a deficit. We will be told to close, sooner rather than later I think, but until then, we are providing the means for people to sanitise if they choose to visit and are continuing are thorough cleaning regime. When we close, I know that I would have done the best I could for the customers that chose to take the chance, for my family and my business xx" *our thorough cleaning regine* ffs lol | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx You have my sympathy, honestly. But the nature of your business depends on people engaging in what is being classed by most countries as non essential risky social contact. Fact is, most of the population will soon join you in this precarious situation. But yes I understand that you are not jumping at the opportunity to lose your livelihood. I would ask you this - can you see any circumstance where you won’t go under? Seems to me that a long period of uncertainty and closures is coming, it’s just a case of when. I am literally doing sums now to see how long we can cover our business and personal overheads before we are in a deficit. We will be told to close, sooner rather than later I think, but until then, we are providing the means for people to sanitise if they choose to visit and are continuing are thorough cleaning regime. When we close, I know that I would have done the best I could for the customers that chose to take the chance, for my family and my business xx *our thorough cleaning regine* ffs lol " Very honest and upfront applaud you ![]() | |||
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"We have and will continue to stay in contact with Public Health and take guidance from them, based on scientific fact and information which is changing everyday. Boris said yesterday that it is highly likely that pubs, clubs and restaurants will be closing after next weekend, but I will be speaking with Public Health again tomorrow to see if this will be brought forward for venues such as ours. For those saying clubs are all about the money, it's a fine line. Most clubs are not big money making businesses anyway. Overheads are VERY high in our game and at this time of year, most of us tread water to stay afloat. We also have overheads whether we are open or closed and it is unlikely that non essential businesses like ours will favour from any government hand out. We are also self employed, so no sick pay or benefits for us while we are closed. This is our reality folks. We don't just play around at this. We have a venue which leaks money every month whether we have customers or not and we have a mortgage and bills to pay in our private lives. If we close, which is looking likely, then for how long? There is only so long that a business can stay closed and still pay it's outgoings, before it's not viable. Businesses have contingency funds but they only last a short time. Insurance in our game is complicated and I will be chatting to our insurer tomorrow to see if we can recoup anything through this crisis... I think it could be a 'No'. So for those who are slagging us all off for staying open, there are lives behind these kinky walls, there are obligations to others and there are potential terminal outcomes. So I WILL NOT be lead by people on here almost bullying clubs who stay open. I will continue to take a lead from Public Health and government recommendation. I think all clubs will be quieter at the moment but for those who have 'braved the storm' so far, I hope you remain fit and well. If/when clubs are told to close, it could be a long while before we open again. Some may not re-open at all if it's hit them hard. A month out of business will be enough to shut some clubs down. But when we do, I hope you will continue to support your local clubs and help them get back on their feet rather than attending private parties with almost zero overheads and pocket money for the organisers. We work hard for you guys and this is a time when we will all need your support to get back on track. This is a game and a bit of fun for all of you, but for club owners this is our reality and our livelihoods and your local clubs will need you more than ever if we have to close. Vicky xx Following on from my post above... For those who feel that clubs are irresponsible for staying open until the government tells us otherwise,I do wonder....... If you are a couple and both of you were told by your full time employer that you had to stop working immediately and you would not get any salary or sick pay indefinitely and you may not have a job to go back to...would you be so quick to walk away from that job and face the possibility of losing your home? Would you wait until you were pushed and the decision was taken out of your hands? Wouldn't you want to try and keep your job for as long as possible to make sure you can survive and you family is fed?? If you're answer is still that you would take the moral high ground and walk away from your job with no income and an uncertain future, then you are a MUCH bigger person that I will ever be and I sincerely hope you are never faced with that prospect xxx You have my sympathy, honestly. But the nature of your business depends on people engaging in what is being classed by most countries as non essential risky social contact. Fact is, most of the population will soon join you in this precarious situation. But yes I understand that you are not jumping at the opportunity to lose your livelihood. I would ask you this - can you see any circumstance where you won’t go under? Seems to me that a long period of uncertainty and closures is coming, it’s just a case of when. I am literally doing sums now to see how long we can cover our business and personal overheads before we are in a deficit. We will be told to close, sooner rather than later I think, but until then, we are providing the means for people to sanitise if they choose to visit and are continuing are thorough cleaning regime. When we close, I know that I would have done the best I could for the customers that chose to take the chance, for my family and my business xx *our thorough cleaning regine* ffs lol " regime ffs ![]() ![]() | |||
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