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Club Security and Accountability

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

If you agree with the post, please do not hesitate to comment. It was sent to fab and hopefully they will act upon it with your help.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"If you agree with the post, please do not hesitate to comment. It was sent to fab and hopefully they will act upon it with your help."

I doubt you're going to get the reaction you're hoping for.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

I've been to clubs where no id is taken and felt and been perfectly safe..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You could go to any bar or shop even no I'd is taken but could still happen in some form.

I agree no one should be touched without consent

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Okay I'm not condoning the man's behaviour but I'm not sure how your confrontation with him after the incident would have provided the police with any credible evidence of his previous encounter with your partner?

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Each club has its own rules, as you realise but there are some general principles - most places require membership, typically needing ID as well as address. Single men may often face tougher rules to get membership, requiting advance application. As licensed venues, as well storing data, they are subject to local and national club and GDPR laws

Fab will probably want to we ensure that clubs are legally compliant but perceive it the duty of the others to manage affairs - fab doesn't have large staff levels and many are volunteers.

I don't know the full details and the abhorrent behaviour is totally wrong. It would have been better to get staff to deal with him.

The heads up to us all is valuable, helping us to each clarify a clubs position on their rules etc. It's perhaps the best that can be retrieved from that awful experience.

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By *tarbeckCouple over a year ago

york

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different. "

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different. "
yup it seems very different indeed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different.

Where is that information?

Cheers KJ x

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

How are the site admin supposed to police this?

They can hardly take one persons word for it, the club themselves aren't going to admit it and I very much doubt that plod will comment to some random person contacting them and asking for info.

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By *oved Up 2Couple over a year ago

nottingham

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different.

Where is that information?

Cheers KJ x"

Under Club reviews for Partners Bury

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By *oved Up 2Couple over a year ago

nottingham

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different. "

Agreed.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different.

Where is that information?

Cheers KJ x"

The club review page of the site

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By *oodnitegirlWoman over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I just read the club reviews and the clubs version of events is quite different.

Where is that information?

Cheers KJ x

The club review page of the site"

Well. That escalated quickly

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By *aekaeWoman over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place

Strange. Very strange.

I sense an ulterior motive.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I find this all quite peculiar, and suggest it won't go as the OP hopes.

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks

Out of interest, were you both happy to enter the club without also having to produce ID? After all, the owner would have your details then to sort this out wouldnt he?

Youre not going to reolve anything by this thread, the status' or the bad review

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

So have you responsed to the clubs email requesting your full details and the crime incident number that you have reported OP? The clubs response to your negative review states that that the police have no record of the event, but you stated you reported it.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

"So have you responsed to the clubs email requesting your full details and the crime incident number that you have reported OP? The clubs response to your negative review states that that the police have no record of the event, but you stated you reported it. "
this.. I'm sure if you give them the crime number that a response will be given.

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By *rufinWoman over a year ago

notts

This is certainly something it would be useful to have info about before attending a club. I hadn't really thought about it. I've only been to clubs like Townhouse and they were good at checking all id.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"This is certainly something it would be useful to have info about before attending a club. I hadn't really thought about it. I've only been to clubs like Townhouse and they were good at checking all id.

I've been to lots of clubs in the North West, and if memory serves Townhouse is the only one that's asked me for ID.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

I suspect that there's more to this story than the OP is letting on.

Uninvited touching is wrong in any situation but the following events seem abit suspect in my opinion.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I suspect that there's more to this story than the OP is letting on.

Uninvited touching is wrong in any situation but the following events seem abit suspect in my opinion. "

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

Just read the club's response to so called incident and I'm impressed with the reply.

The club owners have contacted the police directly however they have no record of any incident occurring?

Something doesn't add up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Whatever anyone may believe, the fact remains that the police could not identify a suspect emanating from a building with cameras, pens and paper in it.

Whether you take our side or the club’s, the point is that after confronting the man, in the presence of staff (on camera), this man was not identifiable even to the police. The club did not take sufficient data. Hence, we reported to a neutral actor ( police ) rather than primarily reporting to the club ( since their staff was already a witness ). Seems logical right?

Any person insensitive enough to presume to know how another person should deal with this type of situation is simply inviting karma upon themselves, family and loved ones from the universe. If you enable and embolden this type of behaviour, it is not long before you will be victimised by it in some way. Good luck with that.

There was at least one Caucasian man who witnessed the action of the Asian man and protested his innocence to the lady involved. So much for the second reviewer’s account of only two men being in the club ( during the incident ). It must be arm-chair detective season already. This is not ITV by the way. Money and fun count for nothing without safety and respect.

Xavier

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Whatever anyone may believe, the fact remains that the police could not identify a suspect emanating from a building with cameras, pens and paper in it.

Xavier"

Have you given the crime number to the club and all relevant details so they can follow up with the case?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

What does race have to do with it?

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

As above as this seems to be the issue.

You reported the alleged assault to the authorities and the club are asking for the crime incident number which is givin on all incidents no matter how small.

If you provide this to the club they can release any footage and information to the Police to carry out a thorough investigation.

The club have been open and contacted the local station to inquire if a statement had been submitted to which the club were told no.

Bad mouthing a club before an investigation has been carried out by the relevant authorities is not the correct and legal way.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

Hmm something doesn't sound right here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I smell an expensive pot of libel brewing right now.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple over a year ago

Falkirk

"I smell an expensive pot of libel brewing right now. "

Oh stealing that

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By *horty4Man over a year ago

london

Or perhaps the actual events do not align exactly with either parties account?

The non contentious point is that private members clubs (if it’s operated in that way) should have a record of members with verifiable identities. No idea if that’s the case here.

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By *aekaeWoman over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place

"I smell an expensive pot of libel brewing right now. "

Defamation of character.

Slander.

Allegations harmful to the club's reputation and business.

I hope they are screenshotting the OPs posts and the club feedback comments.

Also, I expect clubs speak to clubs about problematic patrons.

A less than warm reception at other clubs might be on the cards.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Whatever anyone may believe, the fact remains that the police could not identify a suspect emanating from a building with cameras, pens and paper in it. "

Before assuming that, we need to establish if a police report was even made, because even that appears to be in question.

Frankly, you're not coming across as terribly credible.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"Or perhaps the actual events do not align exactly with either parties account?

The non contentious point is that private members clubs (if it’s operated in that way) should have a record of members with verifiable identities. No idea if that’s the case here. "

Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle of two stories, however, in this case I'm leaning more towards the clubs version of events, they make more sense. It's not a nice situation all round and I don't believe the OP has done himself any favours with this post.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

There is one very important question that the OP seems to be avoiding.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID "

It's been removed.

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By *elnkazCouple over a year ago

cheshire

It happens in swinging clubs worldwide. Guys try it on a simple fix off usually works k

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

It's been removed."

No dog in this fight..... but how come all negative reviews of clubs are removed on this site?

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

It's been removed.

No dog in this fight..... but how come all negative reviews of clubs are removed on this site?"

It's probably more the fact that they claim the police are involved.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

It's been removed.

No dog in this fight..... but how come all negative reviews of clubs are removed on this site?

It's probably more the fact that they claim the police are involved. "

Ok , but besides Donkey Dick’s party’s, I don’t remember ever reading a bad review of a club...

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By *oodnitegirlWoman over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

It's been removed.

No dog in this fight..... but how come all negative reviews of clubs are removed on this site?"

Good spot. Tho I feel that one probably DID deserve to go

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"I couldn't find the review.

But the few times I've been to a club I've always felt safe and never had to give ID

It's been removed.

No dog in this fight..... but how come all negative reviews of clubs are removed on this site?"

I didn't see the review but if there are allegations on it like this thread it isn't allowed.

Negative and positive true reviews that don't break this sites rules are never removed

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

To the OP...Admin have no control over what happens away from the site...be that how a club is run or what happens in that club.

Talking about serious allegations like this is not allowed on the site, go through the proper channels / take your issues up with the club in question

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