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Subscription swingers club, would it work!?
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over a year ago
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Worst idea ever, would be full of regulars, gossiping, getting too involved with each other’s lives, just like the local pub, be rubbish turning up and generally seeing the same people |
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In my opinion no. Would be overrun by single guys which can put some people off. Don't get me wrong, nice to have single guys at a club but if there's too many hubby ends up on guard duty which ruins our fun |
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"In my opinion no. Would be overrun by single guys which can put some people off. Don't get me wrong, nice to have single guys at a club but if there's too many hubby ends up on guard duty which ruins our fun"
Clubs usually have nights when single men are not allowed in. |
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"Worst idea ever, would be full of regulars, gossiping, getting too involved with each other’s lives, just like the local pub, be rubbish turning up and generally seeing the same people"
Club AtlantisEvolution usually gets a good mix of regulars, occasional visitors and newbies so always a variety of people in. |
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For a single guy I say it would be beneficial. If they were courteous and respectful, they engage with others well. I don't see the problem with them becoming regular to a club discounting the price of single male fee to reflect a decent guy.
Single male prices can be extortionate but that reflects the levels guys go to enter a club for a fuck.
If they can prove themselves being a decent guy in the swinging community different from the wanking zombie crowds and the guys who try take what they want.
They should get in cheaper as a valued member of a club. They earned it.
People complaining about club regulars you will find every single swinging club has regulars. They probably don't go everytime you do but they will no doubtedly go more often to that club that you do.
Regulars attending the club's is what makes them great clubs, they want repeat custom. They want you spread the word their club is great. If it was always filled with new comers the numbers would never be high enough to keep a club open. |
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Not really for us, because of family, work and life in general our attendance at clubs if infrequent and irregular. Sometimes we can't get to one for weeks, occasionally we're able to go a few days on the trot. So anything subscription based would be no use to us. |
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"Not really for us, because of family, work and life in general our attendance at clubs if infrequent and irregular. Sometimes we can't get to one for weeks, occasionally we're able to go a few days on the trot. So anything subscription based would be no use to us."
Checkout the reviews on here for AtlantisEvolution in Stoke-on-Trent, only £10 lifetime membership fee and £15 per couple on Friday and Saturday nights. |
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It could be a great idea if many clubs were to "club together", one monthly payment allows unlimited visits any of the clubs in the chain.
Although just a joint club membership would be enough for us, join all the clubs at the same time but still pay entry each time you visit... save having to fill in ALL of your details every time you visit a new place.
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"It could be a great idea if many clubs were to "club together", one monthly payment allows unlimited visits any of the clubs in the chain.
Although just a joint club membership would be enough for us, join all the clubs at the same time but still pay entry each time you visit... save having to fill in ALL of your details every time you visit a new place.
Cal"
So all Clubs have to charge the same fees even if they have different facilities?
Who checks that ID is properly checked?
If a new Club opens does everyone automatically become a member thus depriving the new Club of revenue? |
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"It could be a great idea if many clubs were to "club together", one monthly payment allows unlimited visits any of the clubs in the chain.
Although just a joint club membership would be enough for us, join all the clubs at the same time but still pay entry each time you visit... save having to fill in ALL of your details every time you visit a new place.
Cal
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So all Clubs have to charge the same fees even if they have different facilities?
Who checks that ID is properly checked?
If a new Club opens does everyone automatically become a member thus depriving the new Club of revenue?"
Or... the clubs agree propper processes for handling ID checking, and clubs make money from recruiting new members and their door fees. Most clubs don't seem to charge (certainly couples) a joining fee anyway. If it's just a multi-club membership then the clubs can still charge whatever door price they choose.
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"It could be a great idea if many clubs were to "club together", one monthly payment allows unlimited visits any of the clubs in the chain.
Although just a joint club membership would be enough for us, join all the clubs at the same time but still pay entry each time you visit... save having to fill in ALL of your details every time you visit a new place.
Cal
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So all Clubs have to charge the same fees even if they have different facilities?
Who checks that ID is properly checked?
If a new Club opens does everyone automatically become a member thus depriving the new Club of revenue?
Or... the clubs agree propper processes for handling ID checking, and clubs make money from recruiting new members and their door fees. Most clubs don't seem to charge (certainly couples) a joining fee anyway. If it's just a multi-club membership then the clubs can still charge whatever door price they choose.
Cal"
You can't use your Tesco Clubcard card in Sainsbury's or your Nectar card in Asda. Why should individual Clubs have joint membership, would it even be legal? Since each are separate entities subject to different council rules and regulations? |
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I have thought how useful a reciprocal arrangement between clubs would be. It may encourage people to try new clubs when travelling - avoiding the hassle of joining a club when you happen to be in the area.
Clearly there would be GDPR issues but an arrangement where you could visit a club maybe once a year would be useful. |
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"I have thought how useful a reciprocal arrangement between clubs would be. It may encourage people to try new clubs when travelling - avoiding the hassle of joining a club when you happen to be in the area.
Clearly there would be GDPR issues but an arrangement where you could visit a club maybe once a year would be useful."
To encourage new comers in that sense a suggestion - some clubs allow 1st visit free or on certain nights non members.
To adhere to regulations of recording a membership is registering on the first night paying the normal entry price. Have your tour of the club enjoy the evening.
1st visit no membership price paid. But you have a temporary registration. So copy of ID etc stored on file per club requirements.
2nd visit completing registration via payment of membership. They can't gain a 2nd free visit because their details are already on file.
Works for both club and client. You still get the door fee as a club and client doesn't pay full membership for 1 visit. If the club isn't for them neither lose out. It allows those who may be put off by infrequent visits to a club to actually join. But if they feel they have nothing to lose you'll gain more clientele who are happy to pay membership to a club they found to enjoy even if infrequently. |
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Or... the clubs agree propper processes for handling ID checking, and clubs make money from recruiting new members and their door fees. Most clubs don't seem to charge (certainly couples) a joining fee anyway. If it's just a multi-club membership then the clubs can still charge whatever door price they choose.
Cal
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You can't use your Tesco Clubcard card in Sainsbury's or your Nectar card in Asda. Why should individual Clubs have joint membership, would it even be legal? Since each are separate entities subject to different council rules and regulations?"
I guess you don't like the idea?
To me, it would be just like joining a chain gym or golf club. You sign up once and have access to a whole selection of different sites. When you are in the area, there's a facility for you to use, just show your card and pay the door fee.
And of course it would be legal, the registration would just require that the recorded data matched the most stringent. We have been to loads of clubs and many don't even ask couples to show ID, so a joint registration would be a step up.
It is however all academic though, because even though we may discus these things, there is no suggestion that clubs are going to team up and use a system like this anyway.
Cal |
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Or... the clubs agree propper processes for handling ID checking, and clubs make money from recruiting new members and their door fees. Most clubs don't seem to charge (certainly couples) a joining fee anyway. If it's just a multi-club membership then the clubs can still charge whatever door price they choose.
Cal
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You can't use your Tesco Clubcard card in Sainsbury's or your Nectar card in Asda. Why should individual Clubs have joint membership, would it even be legal? Since each are separate entities subject to different council rules and regulations?
I guess you don't like the idea?
To me, it would be just like joining a chain gym or golf club. You sign up once and have access to a whole selection of different sites. When you are in the area, there's a facility for you to use, just show your card and pay the door fee.
And of course it would be legal, the registration would just require that the recorded data matched the most stringent. We have been to loads of clubs and many don't even ask couples to show ID, so a joint registration would be a step up.
It is however all academic though, because even though we may discus these things, there is no suggestion that clubs are going to team up and use a system like this anyway.
Cal "
Exactly like a chain gym except Swinger's Clubs are not a chain but more like individual gyms.
If you like chain gyms, hotels etc that is your thing but the Clubs are individually owned, separate businesses. Each Club is different, they have websites, reviews on here and you can ask Fabsters about them. Totally unnecessary complications to become a chain. If a lifetime membership is only £10 then what are you risking? |
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There is no way I would agree to a subscription agreement whereby members of other clubs can walk into ours!!!!
I know for a fact that lots of other clubs don't give a shit who walks in...they don't even take a real name! Bad behaviour is not acted upon and anybody can couple up.
We are bound by very strict policies because we have a Sex Entertainment Licence and I need the autonomy to control who comes in, when and how to adhere to these policies. What if someone is barred from our club but insists that I let them in because they are part of the subscription scheme?
What about the clubs who charge memberships and those who don't like ourselves?
We all run very differently...not just from a customer perspective but also behind the scenes and it would be difficult for us all to run the back room stuff in a uniform way to accommodate this scheme.
I have spoken to one or two clubs who run the same as us to operate a reciprocal agreement but we decided it was too much of a minefield when we dissected all the possibilities and scenarios.
So it's a big fat no from me
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It is however all academic though, because even though we may discus these things, there is no suggestion that clubs are going to team up and use a system like this anyway.
Cal
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Exactly like a chain gym except Swinger's Clubs are not a chain but more like individual gyms.
If you like chain gyms, hotels etc that is your thing but the Clubs are individually owned, separate businesses. Each Club is different, they have websites, reviews on here and you can ask Fabsters about them. Totally unnecessary complications to become a chain. If a lifetime membership is only £10 then what are you risking? "
It's not about risk or cost, more about convenience. We recently decided to pop into a club whilst we were away somewhere, but were unable to get in because one of us (not me  ) didn't have ID, it would have been great if we were already a member by proxy.
As for the separate business point, the individual gyms in these chain gyms are each a separate entity too, just using a shared "business model" many of them are even a franchise. It would just require clubs to work together and recognise each others membership cards.
I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just that it could be a good scheme.
Cal |
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"For a single guy I say it would be beneficial. If they were courteous and respectful, they engage with others well. I don't see the problem with them becoming regular to a club discounting the price of single male fee to reflect a decent guy.
Single male prices can be extortionate but that reflects the levels guys go to enter a club for a fuck.
If they can prove themselves being a decent guy in the swinging community different from the wanking zombie crowds and the guys who try take what they want.
They should get in cheaper as a valued member of a club. They earned it.
People complaining about club regulars you will find every single swinging club has regulars. They probably don't go everytime you do but they will no doubtedly go more often to that club that you do.
Regulars attending the club's is what makes them great clubs, they want repeat custom. They want you spread the word their club is great. If it was always filled with new comers the numbers would never be high enough to keep a club open."
Townhouse already offer this - membership is free & is given to guys who have come in & got to know the club, staff, hosts & owners and shown that they are a respectful, nice guy. Once they are members, they get a reduced rate on guest list events as well as access to members only parties.
It doesn’t need a subscription service to make it happen |
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It is however all academic though, because even though we may discus these things, there is no suggestion that clubs are going to team up and use a system like this anyway.
Cal
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Exactly like a chain gym except Swinger's Clubs are not a chain but more like individual gyms.
If you like chain gyms, hotels etc that is your thing but the Clubs are individually owned, separate businesses. Each Club is different, they have websites, reviews on here and you can ask Fabsters about them. Totally unnecessary complications to become a chain. If a lifetime membership is only £10 then what are you risking?
It's not about risk or cost, more about convenience. We recently decided to pop into a club whilst we were away somewhere, but were unable to get in because one of us (not me ) didn't have ID, it would have been great if we were already a member by proxy.
As for the separate business point, the individual gyms in these chain gyms are each a separate entity too, just using a shared "business model" many of them are even a franchise. It would just require clubs to work together and recognise each others membership cards.
I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just that it could be a good scheme.
Cal"
A franchise is where you run your business in the the way the franchise company want you to not how you want to run own business.
If you want convenience just keep some ID with you |
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A franchise is where you run your business in the the way the franchise company want you to not how you want to run own business."
Yes, and as I said many gyms are run as a franchise.
"If you want convenience just keep some ID with you "
I'm curious as to why you're so offended by the concept?
Cal |
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Why would anyone want franchise swinging clubs
As a franchise you may own the business but you have to keep it to the companies layout.
Like every subway looks the same every McDonald's looks the same.
Swingers clubs have individuality and that's the appeal of them. Why go to one across the country when it would be exactly the same as your local one. You just wouldn't want to travel especially for the experience of that club if it were a franchise |
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A franchise is where you run your business in the the way the franchise company want you to not how you want to run own business.
Yes, and as I said many gyms are run as a franchise.
If you want convenience just keep some ID with you
I'm curious as to why you're so offended by the concept?
Cal"
Not offended by it, I just can't understand why you want to put your convenience of the Club owners rights to run their business as they want to and are legally required to!
Why would anyone want franchise swinging clubs
As a franchise you may own the business but you have to keep it to the companies layout.
Like every subway looks the same every McDonald's looks the same.
Swingers clubs have individuality and that's the appeal of them. Why go to one across the country when it would be exactly the same as your local one. You just wouldn't want to travel especially for the experience of that club if it were a franchise. |
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I never suggest that swingers clubs should be a franchise, just mentioned that most chain gyms were. The individuality of clubs is part of what makes visiting new clubs such fun... and we've been to nearly 30 now.
I also think that clubs would benefit from a shared membership model as it would allow people to more easily visit other clubs on a whim without the need for constant form filling... whisky not so sexy.
Cal |
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Is this thread just about tight arse swingers just trying to not pay the appropriate fees when visiting a different club? Yep I think it is 
The facts are many clubs run very different criteria for entrance, some are known to even allow people in with no ID etc. So a scheme would not work at all, there are NO advantages to the clubs
A while ago it was discussed setting up a network between clubs with regards to difficult customers, banned members etc etc, this never got off the ground because clubs can’t work together, it would also be open to abuse. So a scheme like this would never work anyway |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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I always liked the idea of the old working men’s club where you you bought affiliation membership which you could take to other clubs.
The affiliation membership money spread between the clubs.
If the affiliation was abused then it could be taken away.
Clubs could still charge what they wanted.
They would get membership money and it is a great policing method for the clubs. |
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"Is this thread just about tight arse swingers just trying to not pay the appropriate fees when visiting a different club? Yep I think it is
The facts are many clubs run very different criteria for entrance, some are known to even allow people in with no ID etc. So a scheme would not work at all, there are NO advantages to the clubs
A while ago it was discussed setting up a network between clubs with regards to difficult customers, banned members etc etc, this never got off the ground because clubs can’t work together, it would also be open to abuse. So a scheme like this would never work anyway"
I was staying in Birmingham with work in January, and looked in to paying one of the local clubs a first-time visit. It was going to cost me £40 for annual membership, and £30 entry on the night. Add to this the return taxi fare of approximately £50 (I was staying in the Hyatt Regency), and my night was stacking up financially quickly, so I went down Broad Street instead
I guess I'm a tight arse   |
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