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"He might just call them that as that HMRC title covers a hell off a lot.." Tax, VAT, minimum wage, NI to name but a few.....but most were never under the umbrella of the old IR. "Mr HMRC" would be more appropriate for anyone serious about giving advice and maintaining credibility.... | |||
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"'I am willing to help any club who shows me you have the professionalism to operate legally' What on earth is this supposed to mean? The majority ARE operating legally and don't need advice from someone who claims to know everything, and whose advice is 'don't apply for this soon to be legally required license, just open once a month'. No offence but what a load of crap. " 
And that's before we get onto the subject of an "official" arguably offering a tax dodge  | |||
"'I am willing to help any club who shows me you have the professionalism to operate legally' What on earth is this supposed to mean? The majority ARE operating legally and don't need advice from someone who claims to know everything, and whose advice is 'don't apply for this soon to be legally required license, just open once a month'. No offence but what a load of crap.
And that's before we get onto the subject of an "official" arguably offering a tax dodge "Some people are crazy. | |||
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"This made me laugh out loud hahahahahahaha I am more than happy with how I run my legitimate business thanks pal. I don't need your advice!" Likely you use an accountant.....???!!! | |||
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"Back to business for beginners op! Lesson one - turnover does not equal profit..." But it does count when considering registration for VAT | |||
"Back to business for beginners op! Lesson one - turnover does not equal profit... But it does count when considering registration for VAT" ....and therein lies a whole load of other legislation around private members clubs and exemption from VAT. But only in certain circumstances.... it's a minefield! | |||
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"Many of you have recently had news that your favourite swing venue has abruptly had to close, or read the fate of others..well it will happen to your club, unless the owners take their head out of the sand). Professionally, I am employed to oversee that the correct licencing conditions are met by a variety of businesses, 90% of my time is spent with pubs and clubs, but the occasional skip business breaks the monotony of legislation. We all know why you opened your club, my own ex brother in-law did just the same thing - as he once told me, "Its like I'm in heaven, I'm earning loads, fucking fit birds & selling them memberships and beer"....."Who wouldn't want that kind of business"?, but due to club operators greed, and a willingness to post there success on the web, MR County Council, Mr Inland Revenue, Mr Fire Safety, Mr Old Bill & Mr Alcohol Licencing have sat up and thought "mmmmm I'll have a bit of that". And rather than chase after you all, they've come up with a very devious plan, so that you all do there work for them. Clubs are being asked to apply for a "Sexual Entertainment Licence". And Mr Inland Revenue is the one person all clubs should fear..He's looked at your website, took note of how much you charge for membership and entrance, he's then visited your club and made a discreet enquiry regarding joining himself, and he's asked how many other members have you... Back in his office, he's soon worked out everything he needs to know, and now he wants his 40% You've told him you have 200 members, he already knows they all paid £25 membership fee, you've told him you open 5 days a week, and roughly 100 people come each time...Its not rocket science, His 10yo old son, doing basic primary school maths will say "Daddy, they earned £260,000 last year and all tax free"....And daddy will say "mmmmm I think Ill have 40% of that" for last year, plus I'll also charge them the same for each year they've been trading... At this point, put your house in grannies name, because they will come after you. So where does the shit first come from? As soon as the council inform you that you need a licence my very strong advice is close down, and DO NOT apply, because as soon as you do, the local council will inform all the above departments that "You have told them you are running a sexual entertainment business". I am willing to help any club who shows me you have the professionalism to operate legally, alternatively drop me a line, and i'll help you if i can. But if you open just once a month,(who says you can't trade under different names on different dates ??) there exists laws that allow you to function 100% legally, avoid having to pay income tax, and save yourself the licence fee...so here's a freebie for all small operators. " By law, a premises can offer relevant entertainment on an infrequent basis without the need to obtain a sexual entertainment venue licence, provided that the relevant entertainment does not occur for longer that 24 hours, with at least a calendar month separating each occasion, and on no more than 11 occasions over a 12 month period. To take advantage of this exemption, the premises must have the required permissions (such as performance of dance and music) under the Licensing Act 2003 either by means of a Temporary Events Notice or the premises' current premises licence". ** Recently I have been plagued by the sites village idiots asking stupid questions, or trying to create an argument. I'm writing this in order to help the proper and decent clubs on here, so will ignore all "bonehead-mail". " Turnover may well be £260,000 but my business’s run on a net profit of 15% ish so actual profit would only be £39,000 so corporation tax is payable and not 40% income tax, assuming it’s a ltd company. | |||
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"'I am willing to help any club who shows me you have the professionalism to operate legally' What on earth is this supposed to mean? The majority ARE operating legally and don't need advice from someone who claims to know everything, and whose advice is 'don't apply for this soon to be legally required license, just open once a month'. No offence but what a load of crap. " Lots of people here claim to know everything why should the Op be any different   | |||
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"Many of you have recently had news that your favourite swing venue has abruptly had to close, or read the fate of others..well it will happen to your club, unless the owners take their head out of the sand). Professionally, I am employed to oversee that the correct licencing conditions are met by a variety of businesses, 90% of my time is spent with pubs and clubs, but the occasional skip business breaks the monotony of legislation. We all know why you opened your club, my own ex brother in-law did just the same thing - as he once told me, "Its like I'm in heaven, I'm earning loads, fucking fit birds & selling them memberships and beer"....."Who wouldn't want that kind of business"?, but due to club operators greed, and a willingness to post there success on the web, MR County Council, Mr Inland Revenue, Mr Fire Safety, Mr Old Bill & Mr Alcohol Licencing have sat up and thought "mmmmm I'll have a bit of that". And rather than chase after you all, they've come up with a very devious plan, so that you all do there work for them. Clubs are being asked to apply for a "Sexual Entertainment Licence". And Mr Inland Revenue is the one person all clubs should fear..He's looked at your website, took note of how much you charge for membership and entrance, he's then visited your club and made a discreet enquiry regarding joining himself, and he's asked how many other members have you... Back in his office, he's soon worked out everything he needs to know, and now he wants his 40% You've told him you have 200 members, he already knows they all paid £25 membership fee, you've told him you open 5 days a week, and roughly 100 people come each time...Its not rocket science, His 10yo old son, doing basic primary school maths will say "Daddy, they earned £260,000 last year and all tax free"....And daddy will say "mmmmm I think Ill have 40% of that" for last year, plus I'll also charge them the same for each year they've been trading... At this point, put your house in grannies name, because they will come after you. So where does the shit first come from? As soon as the council inform you that you need a licence my very strong advice is close down, and DO NOT apply, because as soon as you do, the local council will inform all the above departments that "You have told them you are running a sexual entertainment business". I am willing to help any club who shows me you have the professionalism to operate legally, alternatively drop me a line, and i'll help you if i can. But if you open just once a month,(who says you can't trade under different names on different dates ??) there exists laws that allow you to function 100% legally, avoid having to pay income tax, and save yourself the licence fee...so here's a freebie for all small operators. " By law, a premises can offer relevant entertainment on an infrequent basis without the need to obtain a sexual entertainment venue licence, provided that the relevant entertainment does not occur for longer that 24 hours, with at least a calendar month separating each occasion, and on no more than 11 occasions over a 12 month period. To take advantage of this exemption, the premises must have the required permissions (such as performance of dance and music) under the Licensing Act 2003 either by means of a Temporary Events Notice or the premises' current premises licence". ** Recently I have been plagued by the sites village idiots asking stupid questions, or trying to create an argument. I'm writing this in order to help the proper and decent clubs on here, so will ignore all "bonehead-mail". " A very amateurish post! | |||
