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over a year ago
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Hi all took my other half to social last week at location both newbies looking to dip toes in
Didnt think much of club or clients were a lot to be desired not enough lockable rooms !
owner top bloke though
Any thoughts on club or best club for newbies looking for soft swing or privacy
Cheers
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over a year ago
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I’m planning on going on Wednesday night 20th March. The last time I was there the people and owners were fantastic. I’m looking forward to enjoying my visit. Good social fun and everything else is a bonus. |
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"I’m planning on going on Wednesday night 20th March. The last time I was there the people and owners were fantastic. I’m looking forward to enjoying my visit. Good social fun and everything else is a bonus."
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"I’m planning on going on Wednesday night 20th March. The last time I was there the people and owners were fantastic. I’m looking forward to enjoying my visit. Good social fun and everything else is a bonus."
thats right but you dont sit in the corner and dont speak
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"Hi all took my other half to social last week at location both newbies looking to dip toes in
Didnt think much of club or clients were a lot to be desired not enough lockable rooms !
owner top bloke though
Any thoughts on club or best club for newbies looking for soft swing or privacy
Cheers
D&S "
All clubs are the same they have a big mix of diffrent looking people and maybe other people didnt fancy ether. but Everybody has diffrent tastes. X x the club does have 2 private locked rooms for privacy and the rest are open as its a swinger club not a hotel ull find all clubs are the same darl x x good luck x x |
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"Hi all took my other half to social last week at location both newbies looking to dip toes in
Didnt think much of club or clients were a lot to be desired not enough lockable rooms !
owner top bloke though
Any thoughts on club or best club for newbies looking for soft swing or privacy
Cheers
D&S "
Wow thanks! I thought there were some very sexy people and chatted to sexy couples, a cheeky single girl and a couple of very nice single guys. Doesn’t sound like you were at the same event I was  |
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By *tegemCouple
over a year ago
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Well we was there on Friday night and the mix of people was vast, I’m sure if you had made the effort to chat to people instead of sitting in a corner you may of came away with a different view, the club is as good as any other if not better, and if you want private rooms then perhaps swinging is not for you ! May I suggest a hotel ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi all took my other half to social last week at location both newbies looking to dip toes in
Didnt think much of club or clients were a lot to be desired not enough lockable rooms !
owner top bloke though
Any thoughts on club or best club for newbies looking for soft swing or privacy
Cheers
D&S
Wow thanks! I thought there were some very sexy people and chatted to sexy couples, a cheeky single girl and a couple of very nice single guys. Doesn’t sound like you were at the same event I was "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well we was there on Friday night and the mix of people was vast, I’m sure if you had made the effort to chat to people instead of sitting in a corner you may of came away with a different view, the club is as good as any other if not better, and if you want private rooms then perhaps swinging is not for you ! May I suggest a hotel !"
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Each time we've been there's been a great mix of people, even on quieter weekends.
I think they key is to try to mix a bit, be chatty and get to know people.
Also, there are a couple of private rooms available, but I don't suppose the owners offer more private areas as most people in clubs aren't looking for privacy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am a regular Single Female @ HU9 and attend every Lust Social its the perfect opportunity for all newbies Couples/Singles to interact with all types of normal people (ages, sizes, sexes) if your going to sit in a corner all night and not speak to anyone because we don't all look like Posh & Becks then obviously this Clubs not for you, it's about people having a good time socialising & having fun. As far as the private rooms concerned HU9 as two lockable rooms which are popular but at the end of the day it is a SWINGERS CLUB! |
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"I’m planning on going on Wednesday night 20th March. The last time I was there the people and owners were fantastic. I’m looking forward to enjoying my visit. Good social fun and everything else is a bonus.thats right but you dont sit in the corner and dont speak "
I absolutely agree. A swingers club is all about socialising and fun. Making an effort to get to know people is an important part of the lifestyle and you’ll find out everyone has a story to tell and enjoys having a laugh. Can’t wait to see everyone Wednesday night and to relax and chat, even in the hot tub. Lol!! Xx |
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"I’m planning on going on Wednesday night 20th March. The last time I was there the people and owners were fantastic. I’m looking forward to enjoying my visit. Good social fun and everything else is a bonus.thats right but you dont sit in the corner and dont speak
I absolutely agree. A swingers club is all about socialising and fun. Making an effort to get to know people is an important part of the lifestyle and you’ll find out everyone has a story to tell and enjoys having a laugh. Can’t wait to see everyone Wednesday night and to relax and chat, even in the hot tub. Lol!! Xx"
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Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe . |
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe ."
We have only been to the club 4 times, so hardly regular visitors.
Each time we've been, we have been spoken to by various people, including the owners who are both really friendly.
The owners even ask other members to show new members round at times so that they aren't just left on their own feeling lost and unwelcome.
As a couple, we are quite shy but we have always been welcomed and never felt uncomfortable.
If you are considering visiting the club, I would go for it and find out for yourself what it's like.
Donna x
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We went for first time on a wedsnesday evening a few weeks back before Sazs OP. It was a quiet night so mostly regulars found them to be lovely and friendly.
My nerves got the better of me that night so I did stay off to the sidelines quite a bit and feel I held Saz back a little by doing so. But that wasn’t the owners or regulars fault it was my own bloody fault! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe ."
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe .
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful."
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe .
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful."
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For the record I’ve been once. It’s difficult for single guys. Even for chatty ones. There are a great deal of single guys that don’t talk to anyone then follow and want to join in with play.
I have to say I love talking to people Byron occasion in the past when I’ve been as a single, where people sit and position themselves often makes it hard for someone to make an introduction. |
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"I am a regular Single Female @ HU9 and attend every Lust Social its the perfect opportunity for all newbies Couples/Singles to interact with all types of normal people (ages, sizes, sexes) if your going to sit in a corner all night and not speak to anyone because we don't all look like Posh & Becks then obviously this Clubs not for you, it's about people having a good time socialising & having fun. As far as the private rooms concerned HU9 as two lockable rooms which are popular but at the end of the day it is a SWINGERS CLUB! "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe ."
its far from clicky trust me and its great that uve come to that point and u haunt been in lol |
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe .
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful.
Well put
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A few people went over to chat to the couple ao they didnt realy chat back. Theres lots of people who have commented on the post that arnt regulars. If people dnt chat bk to you what can u do. Read the club reviews. we arnt a clicky club and regulars chat to everybody. Just cos other people have had bad times at other clubs dnt mean were the same. Come dwn and try it for your self. |
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe . its far from clicky trust me and its great that uve come to that point and u haunt been in lol"
He didnt say he had , and the poster if you read his verifications is a very sociable bloke its his partner that is new |
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By (user no longer on site)
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At the end of the day if u havent been u cnt comment. People what have been wil tel u how it is. I as the owner went and sat dwn with them in the corner for a while and chatted. They was a nice couple and if they wasnt as nervous im sure they wud of had a gud nite. Cnt pls everybody x x |
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So ive just returned from my first visit to HU9.
I must admit i was in two minds about going after reading this but i had nothing to worry about.
Once id had the tour around i headed for the hotub.
Although it was quiet, Everyone was very welcoming and i will definitely be returning. |
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe .
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Wow!! That put cat amongst pigeons
Thank you for positive comments apreciated i take on board negative ones too
But isn't swinging about all types of sexual experience?? If my partner and i wanted privacy in a lockable room on our first visit shouldnt have that been respected ?? And were possible given option to experience?
Owner is great guy wish him well hope club expands and grows but their were certain clients that let it down haven a d*unken women causing a scene is not good and off putting
I wish you all the best at HU9
Enjoy future visits people over and out! |
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"Wow!! That put cat amongst pigeons
Thank you for positive comments apreciated i take on board negative ones too
But isn't swinging about all types of sexual experience?? If my partner and i wanted privacy in a lockable room on our first visit shouldnt have that been respected ?? And were possible given option to experience?
Owner is great guy wish him well hope club expands and grows but their were certain clients that let it down haven a d*unken women causing a scene is not good and off putting
I wish you all the best at HU9
Enjoy future visits people over and out!"
We have two lockerable rooms u cud have used one of them x x |
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I just think there are better ways to say things in a forum. Making out like everybody was ugly and saying bout lockerble rooms when there is lockerble rooms was just silly. The d*unk ladie out of the couple was also new and we called her a taxi and got them bk to there hotel safe. Its all been blown up for nothing. Thanx u guys for defending the club and sorry that the New couple didnt enjoy there evening cnt pls everybody. X x x with any swingers club you get out what you put in x x happy swinging |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It was my first time a few weeks ago and I was sat talking to a couple, it's not clicky at all I've been back a second time and had a fab time, give it a try before u say it's not for you |
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"It was my first time a few weeks ago and I was sat talking to a couple, it's not clicky at all I've been back a second time and had a fab time, give it a try before u say it's not for you "
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"I just think there are better ways to say things in a forum. Making out like everybody was ugly and saying bout lockerble rooms when there is lockerble rooms was just silly. The d*unk ladie out of the couple was also new and we called her a taxi and got them bk to there hotel safe. Its all been blown up for nothing. Thanx u guys for defending the club and sorry that the New couple didnt enjoy there evening cnt pls everybody. X x x with any swingers club you get out what you put in x x happy swinging "
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"Any club u go to u shud try to mix and chat with people in stead of sat in a corner all night. And disrepecting people wont get u anywere. "
Totally agree. It's always the cip-out option to sit there alone, not attempt to talk to anyone and then blame everyone else for being cliquey or frigid, then want to seclude yourselves in a lockable room but blame the club if those rooms are taken. |
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This club ticks all the boxes for me.its clean,variety of rooms,2 hot tubs,sauna,and run by people that put 100% in as there always coming up with ideas to better the club.its best to chat to others rather than sit like ur waiting for a bus.the owners chat to everyone as to not leave anyone out and welcome them even getting naked in the hot tub at times to chat.this club rocks |
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"This club ticks all the boxes for me.its clean,variety of rooms,2 hot tubs,sauna,and run by people that put 100% in as there always coming up with ideas to better the club.its best to chat to others rather than sit like ur waiting for a bus.the owners chat to everyone as to not leave anyone out and welcome them even getting naked in the hot tub at times to chat.this club rocks"
thanxs mate that means alot
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"Any club u go to u shud try to mix and chat with people in stead of sat in a corner all night. And disrepecting people wont get u anywere.
Totally agree. It's always the cip-out option to sit there alone, not attempt to talk to anyone and then blame everyone else for being cliquey or frigid, then want to seclude yourselves in a lockable room but blame the club if those rooms are taken. "
true true. Hope u guys are ok? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Seems a lot of the people commenting here are either affiliated too or regulars at the club , which is fine but if you are wanting too dip your toes as the OP was , and the club is full of its usual regulars in what ever capacity it can be , if you are shy , lead you to feel a bit on the outer rim so to say.
I've heard mixed opinions on this and other clubs as I'm considering dipping my toes myself , but this thread further puts me off trying this club , if a guys obviously new to the club scene ,is it all on him to socialise, or being as its a social environment surely other would notice a shy person and maybe introduce themselves to help break the ice ?
This thread to me tell me maybe hu9 is a bit clicky maybe .
I was interested to see the inevitable defensive passive aggressive replies which is something that reinforced why I've not ventured back to try a club and certainly keeps putting me off trying again and not meet couples on here.
I also dipped my toes in two different clubs over 4 yrs ago. I didn't sit in any corner, tried to chat at the bar and even tried to join in a group (became apparent all regulars) but as a single guy definitely felt unwanted by couples in particular at both venues. So I can sympathise with the OPs sentiments but then I was alone without a female to soften the responses.
I hear how wonderful these places are especially all the people who go to them, but, there's another side to the coin the seems to annoy the regulars who give same pat answers and assume the same reasons as to why someone doesn't have the same fantastic experience as they all do.
Note to all saying stop sitting on your own, maybe you should be more welcoming, knowing it is daunting especially for a single guy, but also for newbies 'dipping their toes'. Rather than being passive aggressive here, be more inclusive, which I thought was one of the swingers unwritten rules. You might find a few new diamonds and more newbies feeling more comfortable. Too many quick to blame someone for not making the effort to fit in, whereas they may genuinely feel unwanted and then post something up here looking for positive encouragement but feeling much like they entered the club waiting for the coldness.
Just my thoughts on someone who tried a few times and genuinely experienced the pariya effect. To tell them that it's this or its that and maybe they shouldn't be on here is bit petty too. It's shite and those able should be more positive and helpful."
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