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"Anyone else experience inappropriate behaviour from The Wanking Dead at VA Milf Club recently? Yesterday was hellish!" Did you report it to the club ? | |||
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"Anyone else experience inappropriate behaviour from The Wanking Dead at VA Milf Club recently? Yesterday was hellish!" New type of wanking dead now called the "whisperers" and they're evil buggers ! | |||
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"Did you report it to the club ? " Yes | |||
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"even though its an adult club and milf venue unfortunately males think they have the right to wank near you regardless of wether you wanted them to or not . pretty disgusting if you ask me .. " Very true. I heard there were some instances of guys doing this in non play areas too | |||
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"Did the club kick these guys out? I certainly hope so! " Not sure... | |||
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"Did the club kick these guys out? I certainly hope so! Not sure..." If they didn't then they need to start doing it. It's the only way to cut it out, zero tolerance policy. | |||
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"Disgusting. Unless you’ve invited them to touch you then it’s clear cut sexual assault. Hope they have been banned." 
If it's such a problem the club should ensure that all men entering the club are told the rules, especially re: sexual assault. | |||
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"Disgusting. Unless you’ve invited them to touch you then it’s clear cut sexual assault. Hope they have been banned.
If it's such a problem the club should ensure that all men entering the club are told the rules, especially re: sexual assault. " | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx" Victim shaming at its finest. The men that behave like that will look sheepish, apologise...and try it on over and over again. They don't care that their behaviour borders on criminal, all they want is their kicks and excusing them because they have an erect penis is horrifying. Everybody knows they are not to touch or encroach, they do it because they will get away with it more often than they don't. One older man last time I was there was eventually shouted at to stop his awful, creepy approaches and carried on. Staff are told but until there is a zero tolerance policy, it goes on an on and on... | |||
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"I also think the club must make some hard rules but it maybe ackward as the s males must bring in a far bit of money in for them " That's why most clubs probably won't read the men the riot act. They bring in the cash. They want a fuck and a grope. They paid their £50..... | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx Victim shaming at its finest. The men that behave like that will look sheepish, apologise...and try it on over and over again. They don't care that their behaviour borders on criminal, all they want is their kicks and excusing them because they have an erect penis is horrifying. Everybody knows they are not to touch or encroach, they do it because they will get away with it more often than they don't. One older man last time I was there was eventually shouted at to stop his awful, creepy approaches and carried on. Staff are told but until there is a zero tolerance policy, it goes on an on and on..." How is it victim shaming? If the club won't tell the men the rules, who will? Many (most?!) newbies to clubs assume it's a free for all orgy. Swingers fuck anyone. If the club condone groping then I'd go elsewhere. If they don't kick people out then they are part of the problem. | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx Victim shaming at its finest. The men that behave like that will look sheepish, apologise...and try it on over and over again. They don't care that their behaviour borders on criminal, all they want is their kicks and excusing them because they have an erect penis is horrifying. Everybody knows they are not to touch or encroach, they do it because they will get away with it more often than they don't. One older man last time I was there was eventually shouted at to stop his awful, creepy approaches and carried on. Staff are told but until there is a zero tolerance policy, it goes on an on and on... How is it victim shaming? If the club won't tell the men the rules, who will? Many (most?!) newbies to clubs assume it's a free for all orgy. Swingers fuck anyone. If the club condone groping then I'd go elsewhere. If they don't kick people out then they are part of the problem. " They were excusing mens behaviour by suggesting they cannot think because their cock is working. The men hold full responsibility for what they do, others don’t need to excuse them or feel sympathy for them. | |||
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"Still no reply to my email from VA..." Not good enough.. | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there "Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere. | |||
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Of all the events I have been to at various clubs around the country, I found the men to be extremely pushy, little art of conversation other than "you playing?", and very poor manners.
I have found the daytime events at jaydees and eurekas to be much more social and a nicer group of fellas. | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx Victim shaming at its finest. The men that behave like that will look sheepish, apologise...and try it on over and over again. They don't care that their behaviour borders on criminal, all they want is their kicks and excusing them because they have an erect penis is horrifying. Everybody knows they are not to touch or encroach, they do it because they will get away with it more often than they don't. One older man last time I was there was eventually shouted at to stop his awful, creepy approaches and carried on. Staff are told but until there is a zero tolerance policy, it goes on an on and on... How is it victim shaming? If the club won't tell the men the rules, who will? Many (most?!) newbies to clubs assume it's a free for all orgy. Swingers fuck anyone. If the club condone groping then I'd go elsewhere. If they don't kick people out then they are part of the problem. They were excusing mens behaviour by suggesting they cannot think because their cock is working. The men hold full responsibility for what they do, others don’t need to excuse them or feel sympathy for them." I read it differently then- I didn't think they were excusing men at all. They also said that some of the men wouldn't know how to behave. If no-one tells them they will never learn. | |||
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"i made my first visit to the club about 3 months ago as a single male not sure what to expect,the amount of single blokes was more than expected as soon as there was a sniff they were like vultures swooping in on there pray.sorry this is not the kind of behavior for me.have not returned since." Why would the behaviour of other men put you off? If you take responsibility for you, I bet you’ll have a great time. | |||
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"I too wouldn't rush back to Milf Club. I went twice last year and found it to be Wanking Pensioners Central, one guy even racing around wanking furiously with the condom hanging off the end of his semi
Of all the events I have been to at various clubs around the country, I found the men to be extremely pushy, little art of conversation other than "you playing?", and very poor manners.
I have found the daytime events at jaydees and eurekas to be much more social and a nicer group of fellas."Spot on. Milf club is definitely wanking pensioners central... think that should be it’s new name. I know that on a few occasions younger guys (who are regular members at other clubs) have been refused entry onto the milf club list in favour of the 65+ range. It puts a lot of women off going. One time I went I think there were 20 single pensioners and 2 20-somethings and a few couples. Most the couples just hid in the couples area and it shouldnt be like that. I occasionally go with my partner and we use the couples room only... we only go as it’s the only place open during a weekday. Also.... the sex in the hot tub needs to stop. It’s minging. Any time a couple even has a kiss all the wanking dead jump in and try to get in on the action. They never ask in the hot tub. | |||
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"I too wouldn't rush back to Milf Club. I went twice last year and found it to be Wanking Pensioners Central, one guy even racing around wanking furiously with the condom hanging off the end of his semi
Of all the events I have been to at various clubs around the country, I found the men to be extremely pushy, little art of conversation other than "you playing?", and very poor manners.
I have found the daytime events at jaydees and eurekas to be much more social and a nicer group of fellas.
Spot on. Milf club is definitely wanking pensioners central... think that should be it’s new name.
I know that on a few occasions younger guys (who are regular members at other clubs) have been refused entry onto the milf club list in favour of the 65+ range. It puts a lot of women off going.
One time I went I think there were 20 single pensioners and 2 20-somethings and a few couples. Most the couples just hid in the couples area and it shouldnt be like that.
I occasionally go with my partner and we use the couples room only... we only go as it’s the only place open during a weekday.
Also.... the sex in the hot tub needs to stop. It’s minging. Any time a couple even has a kiss all the wanking dead jump in and try to get in on the action. They never ask in the hot tub. "This sounds like a great place | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. " Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. " They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? | |||
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Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too?" I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent." Sent you a pm xx | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere."I'm not kidding myself ... The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol... | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere.
I'm not kidding myself ...
The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol..."The owners at Milf aren’t “allowing it”. They’ve banned people as soon as they knew. It’s happened to me at Jaydees too. It happens everywhere. In good clubs like Jaydees and VA they try to prevent it and respond robustly to it. | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere.
I'm not kidding myself ...
The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol..."Shame they only do daytime events on a Friday we know a few couples that would definitely go. | |||
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"I'd like to just clarify that we do love VA Milf Club too. We've had some damn fine times there and met some lovely people. I didn't put this up to stir things up, we just experienced things lately which I believe the club have now sorted out - but I wanted to gauge the size of the problem(s), in the hope that VA will put steps in to prevent things like this happening in the future. Prevention is better than cure!" Well said | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere."The Tgirls suffer from it too | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere.
I'm not kidding myself ...
The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol...
Shame they only do daytime events on a Friday we know a few couples that would definitely go."Jaydees hold all day Friday events and now open Sunday's. I can only speak from my own experience that any inapropiate behaviour reported to staff is dealt with quickly and quietly .all staff at any club will strive to look after everyone | |||
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"Is this behaviour by singles guys prevalent on Friday nights? We were thinking of going to the Xmas party on the 14th but perhaps we should reconsider?" No. Friday nights, other than the Bi-Night on the 1st Friday of the month, only have a maximum of 10 single guys on the guest list and often not all of them turn up. Many of the attendees are regular visitors, know the rules and follow them. It's also much easier to supervise on both Friday and Saturday nights for anything that may be causing an issue. | |||
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"Best advice is to pre mix your drinks in a large plastic bottle that way your not having half a glass and a dash of soft stuff "Unfortunately as The Vanilla Alternative is a licensed premises, guests are not permitted to bring their own drinks. | |||
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"Best advice is to pre mix your drinks in a large plastic bottle that way your not having half a glass and a dash of soft stuff "But hard to do such a thing when you’re at a club with a licensed bar such as the VA. Most clubs have a served bar where excessive d*unk people should noticed by members of staff. | |||
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"Yesterday, a single guy was well within the couples' only area. We were having sex at the time and I told him to leave. The same guy was pestering our friend, and she reported him. I also reported his behaviour to the staff on reception. The same man was pestering my partner at the previous Milf Club, by standing really close to her outside the changing area and grabbing her hand and placing it on his erection. She didn't want to make a fuss at the time, but I reported it to staff yesterday. There were two more instances of single men standing just within the curtain of the Couples' Area, again I alerted staff and they told them to leave the area. On both occasions it was the same guys. Must say normally VA is fine but yesterday we left early. I've emailed VA today and hope we get a response as to what they intend to do to prevent this shirt of behaviour happening again." I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women | |||
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"Why can't these guys behave decently" They are desperate..and desperate men do desperate things and some wally saying don't do this or that doesn't bother them ..if it was a strict policy you get chucked out they soon would get the message | |||
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"I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women " And what about those of us who enjoy playing with single guys as well ?? | |||
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"I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women And what about those of us who enjoy playing with single guys as well ??" Well its a small sacrifice to stop the whingers surely | |||
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"In our local club around a couple of years ago we were playing with 2 single guys whilst the others where asked to stand back which all did without an issue, then an older gent came running in and started grabbing. Every one of the guys we had asked to stand back gave him a telling off en masse and he backed right off.. Anyway fast forward to the end of play and he came over too apologise and we told him it was ok just ask first, anyway it turns out abother guy had told him to do it as a way into play as it was his first time in a club and he had asked around what the etiquette was
Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair "
Exactly!! If no-one tells them the rules how will they know? It's a widespread myth that swingers clubs are just orgies and everyone just piles on.
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"Every complaint.........to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too?" On a lighter note Phoenix your pics are lovely. Have fabbed some for you. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too?" Not that event, no but the email issues have been going on for well over a month now. | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere.
I'm not kidding myself ...
The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol..."They may not ‘allow’ it but it happens everywhere. Everywhere. No club allows it. | |||
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"….. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair "that's a problem i'd quite like! But seriously I last went to VA Milf club in October and it was getting quite bad then. I can't stand when these guys get far too close to a couple - apart from being incredible impolite the get in the way of my view. I would be happily watching (without any protest from the couple or the need for me to touch my dick) from at least a metre away then they come rushing in the gap between the couple and me! situation ruined for the couple (and me!) Now I probably won't go back if this has got worse, what's the point - and it's a long drive! | |||
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"I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women And what about those of us who enjoy playing with single guys as well ??Well its a small sacrifice to stop the whingers surely " Clubs will not survive without single men. Besides there are a lot of us who behave as expected. | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J "There are very few younger men, in fact the first time I went I was shocked at the large group of men in the same age bracket as me. | |||
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"I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women And what about those of us who enjoy playing with single guys as well ??Well its a small sacrifice to stop the whingers surely " No it isn’t, it’s a huge price, if there are no single men there’s no point in me going to a club | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J "I've been a few times and you do sometimes get an older demographic. But, there are usually a few guys around my age (not that I'm trying to say that I'm young) | |||
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"….. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
that's a problem i'd quite like! But seriously I last went to VA Milf club in October and it was getting quite bad then. I can't stand when these guys get far too close to a couple - apart from being incredible impolite the get in the way of my view.
I would be happily watching (without any protest from the couple or the need for me to touch my dick) from at least a metre away then they come rushing in the gap between the couple and me! situation ruined for the couple (and me!)
Now I probably won't go back if this has got worse, what's the point - and it's a long drive!"I don't see it that way personally as with a guy or a couple we still need to fancy the woman who wants to rush the room and have a grab or in one case decide to start spanking a girl we know without asking. Anatomy shouldn't dictate manners 
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"….. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
that's a problem i'd quite like! But seriously I last went to VA Milf club in October and it was getting quite bad then. I can't stand when these guys get far too close to a couple - apart from being incredible impolite the get in the way of my view.
I would be happily watching (without any protest from the couple or the need for me to touch my dick) from at least a metre away then they come rushing in the gap between the couple and me! situation ruined for the couple (and me!)
Now I probably won't go back if this has got worse, what's the point - and it's a long drive!
I don't see it that way personally as with a guy or a couple we still need to fancy the woman who wants to rush the room and have a grab or in one case decide to start spanking a girl we know without asking. Anatomy shouldn't dictate manners
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent." With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J "LOL, there is nothing in the title or meaning of MILF that says the guys should be younger than the ladies.... and hopefully I don't quite qualify for Werthers Originals just yet...... | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work...." Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. " ...and utterly ridiculous to think men don’t know those things. We need to stop treating them as poor souls who can’t think for themselves and holding them responsible and accountable. Those rules should be read and signed for by everyone, as others have said, I see plenty of women behaving badly too but the power dynamic is entirely different. | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J LOL,
there is nothing in the title or meaning of MILF that says the guys should be younger than the ladies.... and hopefully I don't quite qualify for Werthers Originals just yet...... "All over this forum men are using MILF/GILF and cougar to describe older women they want to meet to fulfill their fantasies, | |||
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"….. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
that's a problem i'd quite like! But seriously I last went to VA Milf club in October and it was getting quite bad then. I can't stand when these guys get far too close to a couple - apart from being incredible impolite the get in the way of my view.
I would be happily watching (without any protest from the couple or the need for me to touch my dick) from at least a metre away then they come rushing in the gap between the couple and me! situation ruined for the couple (and me!)
Now I probably won't go back if this has got worse, what's the point - and it's a long drive!
I don't see it that way personally as with a guy or a couple we still need to fancy the woman who wants to rush the room and have a grab or in one case decide to start spanking a girl we know without asking. Anatomy shouldn't dictate manners
You are quite right of course, I was being humorous but if it were the other way round few men (single or otherwise) would complain. "What if a woman started groping your female partner whilst playing with you, or pushed you off, or pinned her up against a wall, or said you had a small useless duck? | |||
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"Thing is if you look at the club in questions reviews they are all fabulous or great ..... Maybe if some of the people who have had problems there would make them public on the clubs listing then maybe they might be quicker to address the problems after all more people read a club listing than 1 thread that will be lost in the ether in a matter of days. Personally if I were attending a club the first place I would look would be their feedback on here. " However, a good club who are looking to market their club, hopefully will take this on board. If you want visitors, you need to provide a environment where people want to comeback, safely. Equally, if people reacted to that type behaviour in a way that didn’t feed zombies needs they would soon get bored of paying the entrance fee. We love clubs, it is a midge bite of a holistic experience, equally, one we would prefer not to happen. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. " It’s nice to have a discussion sometimes.... try to rebuttal my comment with a constructive way for the club to implement your advice without commenting on my reading skills.... I think that would benefit you and your next club experience..... Now with your plan... would the husbands of the couples that attend have to be talked to about the rules? What tactic would be more advantageous to the club.... to stop each individual man that enters and go over the rules or wait until the doors are closed and gather them all in a room and give a presentation? Your post sounds great in theory.... but execution will be hard to implement.... | |||
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"Thing is if you look at the club in questions reviews they are all fabulous or great ..... Maybe if some of the people who have had problems there would make them public on the clubs listing then maybe they might be quicker to address the problems after all more people read a club listing than 1 thread that will be lost in the ether in a matter of days. Personally if I were attending a club the first place I would look would be their feedback on here. " To be fair to the club they have addressed the problems as soon as they could... They have tried to contact every person that had an issue, an awful lot of those personally by phone. The reason the reviews are so good is because the Vanilla Alternative is one of the best club's in the UK at this time. It was rated in the top three of the clubbers guide for nothing. | |||
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"Every complaint.........to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? On a lighter note Phoenix your pics are lovely. Have fabbed some for you." Ahh thank you, that's very kind of you to say that 
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. It’s nice to have a discussion sometimes.... try to rebuttal my comment with a constructive way for the club to implement your advice without commenting on my reading skills.... I think that would benefit you and your next club experience..... Now with your plan... would the husbands of the couples that attend have to be talked to about the rules? What tactic would be more advantageous to the club.... to stop each individual man that enters and go over the rules or wait until the doors are closed and gather them all in a room and give a presentation? Your post sounds great in theory.... but execution will be hard to implement...." MrsT is a regular club goer. She understands what is needed. It wouldn't be that difficult to reiterate the rules to everyone (males, females, couples, tv's) on entry. | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. ...and utterly ridiculous to think men don’t know those things. We need to stop treating them as poor souls who can’t think for themselves and holding them responsible and accountable. Those rules should be read and signed for by everyone, as others have said, I see plenty of women behaving badly too but the power dynamic is entirely different. " I live and work by this saying “ I work with what I have , not with what I want “ These men are behaving this way because they don’t know how to behave or they simply have no regards for the rules.... Try to find a constructive way for the club to implement there rules which in turn make your next visit more enjoyable.... A business is only successful because of their customers.... try to be part of the solution | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. It’s nice to have a discussion sometimes.... try to rebuttal my comment with a constructive way for the club to implement your advice without commenting on my reading skills.... I think that would benefit you and your next club experience..... Now with your plan... would the husbands of the couples that attend have to be talked to about the rules? What tactic would be more advantageous to the club.... to stop each individual man that enters and go over the rules or wait until the doors are closed and gather them all in a room and give a presentation? Your post sounds great in theory.... but execution will be hard to implement.... MrsT is a regular club goer. She understands what is needed. It wouldn't be that difficult to reiterate the rules to everyone (males, females, couples, tv's) on entry." Thank you.... | |||
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"Every complaint email the club has received about the events at milf club should have received a reply either by email or some have been called personally by the owner. All men that attend milf club have and will be asked to resign the rules and some men that were at this particular event have been banned from the club permanently. The club do not select men for milf club based on age atall. They try to be fair to all men that apply but those that are known to the club do receive priority, obviously this cannot be the case all the time and some do slip through. Friday nights are limited to ten men and that is not exceeded but mild club is... milf club so the ratio is relaxed for that for obvious reasons. If you do have an issue at the club then please report it straight away so the club can deal with the people involved straight away. If you email after it is much harder to deal with those men at a later date. I hope this answers some of the questions in the thread and was passed to me directly by the club to be passed on. We do not work for them so cannot answer questions directly simply passing a message. Thanks guys. Could you ask them why they never reply to emails about any subject? Thanks. They have been battling some IT issues recently and there's been some staff changes. Are you awaiting a reply about this event too? I’ve not had a reply to my email about Wednesday yet but I only sent it yesterday evening so they might not have managed to reply yet. Very well done to VA for banning the worst guys. That’s very reassuring and supportive. In my email to the club I made these suggestions: 1) A "VIP Guys" list of men who are consistently respectful and popular at Milf. Perhaps they could be given more flexibility to book last minute to ensure there's a good number of the really nice men. 2) Some of the beds in communal areas should be designated "invitation only". 3) The rules need to be revised and restated to single men every time they attend. - Don't touch women intimately without clear consent. Never touch a woman intimately as a way of finding out whether it's okay to touch her. - If a woman chats and laughs and smiles, it doesn't necessarily mean she wants to have sex. If she's avoiding eye contact, leaning away from you and shutting down the conversation, she's not interested. - Please don't invade women's personal space by sitting so close that you're touching them. If she moves away from you, please don't move closer again. Don't manoeuvre women into the corners in the hot tub or up against the arm of the sofas. - Don't follow women from room to room. - Wanking very near to someone else is inappropriate without their consent. It's ok to watch and wank, but not within someone's personal space without their consent. With all due respect..... what you’re proposing is a Herculean task...... This would require the staff at this club to give every man that walks through the door a 10-20 minute speech..... or herd all the men in a room and go over the rules..... You make very valid points, but I’m not sure how your proposal would work.... Those five short rules took you 20 minutes to read? Gosh, you are a slow reader. It’s nice to have a discussion sometimes.... try to rebuttal my comment with a constructive way for the club to implement your advice without commenting on my reading skills.... I think that would benefit you and your next club experience..... Now with your plan... would the husbands of the couples that attend have to be talked to about the rules? What tactic would be more advantageous to the club.... to stop each individual man that enters and go over the rules or wait until the doors are closed and gather them all in a room and give a presentation? Your post sounds great in theory.... but execution will be hard to implement.... MrsT is a regular club goer. She understands what is needed. It wouldn't be that difficult to reiterate the rules to everyone (males, females, couples, tv's) on entry." That is one of the things already been put in place since this issue at the VA as well as perminantly banning the men involved. | |||
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"Is this behaviour by singles guys prevalent on Friday nights? We were thinking of going to the Xmas party on the 14th but perhaps we should reconsider?" The Xmas party is usually a fantastic event don't let one forum thread put you off. You will have a great time!  | |||
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"I have every confidence that VA will sort this out. I have been going there as a lone woman for more than a year. It’s well run and safe. I met most of my closest male friends there. A bit of a tweak is needed at Milf club, but VA has listened to feedback before and acted, and they’ve dealt with this problem in less than 24 hours. " I won’t stop me going either | |||
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"I have every confidence that VA will sort this out. I have been going there as a lone woman for more than a year. It’s well run and safe. I met most of my closest male friends there. A bit of a tweak is needed at Milf club, but VA has listened to feedback before and acted, and they’ve dealt with this problem in less than 24 hours. I won’t stop me going either "We can’t stop going. We’re chatting-on-the-bed buddies! | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J
There are very few younger men, in fact the first time I went I was shocked at the large group of men in the same age bracket as me."Yes I was disappointed as I expected the men to be a lot younger but have to go to Cougars and Cubs for that! | |||
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"Jaydees here we come .. They would not allow it there
Don’t kid yourself, it happens everywhere, not just in clubs. Women and girls are subjected to creepy behaviour from men absolutely everywhere.
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The owners at jaydees wouldn't allow it lol..."It happens everywhere, including jd’s... | |||
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"I have every confidence that VA will sort this out. I have been going there as a lone woman for more than a year. It’s well run and safe. I met most of my closest male friends there. A bit of a tweak is needed at Milf club, but VA has listened to feedback before and acted, and they’ve dealt with this problem in less than 24 hours. I won’t stop me going either
We can’t stop going. We’re chatting-on-the-bed buddies!"(and those nice men, don’t forget the nice men...) | |||
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"Anyone else experience inappropriate behaviour from The Wanking Dead at VA Milf Club recently? Yesterday was hellish!" Fuck your desired behind closed doors The club scene just screams "full of desperate men" You're very brave for attending in the first place.. | |||
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"Anyone else experience inappropriate behaviour from The Wanking Dead at VA Milf Club recently? Yesterday was hellish! Fuck your desired behind closed doors The club scene just screams "full of desperate men" You're very brave for attending in the first place.. " Well that’s made me totally rethink my views on clubs.... | |||
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"On another note, does anyone know a lovely lady called Cara/Kara we can’t find her profile but would love to find her." Shes behind you | |||
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"I also think the club must make some hard rules but it maybe ackward as the s males must bring in a far bit of money in for them " Oh I see.....so the single guys have paid their money so they are entitled to get something for it. I think you are confusing a swingers club with a brothel....do us ladies a favour and go find your local brothel instead. | |||
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"Thing is if you look at the club in questions reviews they are all fabulous or great ..... Maybe if some of the people who have had problems there would make them public on the clubs listing then maybe they might be quicker to address the problems after all more people read a club listing than 1 thread that will be lost in the ether in a matter of days. Personally if I were attending a club the first place I would look would be their feedback on here. " Following a bad review within hours there will be half a dozen reviews insulting the person who left the bad review basically calling them a liar. I see it all the time with the club reviews here on fab. People are discouraged from speaking out otherwise your not really going to be able to go to the club again as the "regulars" will ignore you for daring to bad mouth their precious club. Even the owners are known to leave a review for themselves picking apart the negative review that was left. It's all a load of bull shit really. The clubs are quite clicky places..and people are more interested in being part of the gang. After all you can't swing unless people will swing with you... | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J
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Yes I was disappointed as I expected the men to be a lot younger but have to go to Cougars and Cubs for that! "There are a couple of younger guys but yes the ratios are well out balanced by the pensioners. It’s a shame really. If more respectful younger guys could get their names in the list then It could be quite a nice event. | |||
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"The so called younger men have to work.....so what ages that would be there are people who are retired taken the day off or are on the dole....oh sorry UC...the new name for it....." Not everybody has a 9-5 job you know. A large proportion of people work shifts personally I get more weekdays off than weekends. | |||
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"The so called younger men have to work.....so what ages that would be there are people who are retired taken the day off or are on the dole....oh sorry UC...the new name for it..... Not everybody has a 9-5 job you know. A large proportion of people work shifts personally I get more weekdays off than weekends. " I have my own business & make sure that I finish at 3.00pm each to go to the Gym...everyone in there at that time is either self-employed, retired or erhm 'between jobs'. | |||
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"Don’t be put off all clubs, some are great! "I have been to three clubs and each one has given me the newbie tour including advice on behaviour and swinger etiquette. Seen poor behaviour from a minority of single men and will report stupidity when necessary. Each club has been a wonderful experience with smashing people but I never expect guaranteed results and sometimes enjoy the occasion as a social only | |||
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"Really wanted to try this event out. In my mind I’m thinking it’s full of young guys looking for MILFs but I guess in reality only the single OAPs are not stuck at work during the day. I’ll just bring a bag of Werthers Originals to keep them entertained J
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Yes I was disappointed as I expected the men to be a lot younger but have to go to Cougars and Cubs for that!
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"Is this behaviour by singles guys prevalent on Friday nights? We were thinking of going to the Xmas party on the 14th but perhaps we should reconsider? The Xmas party is usually a fantastic event don't let one forum thread put you off. You will have a great time! "Thank you | |||
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"When we went there were the usual gangs of guys but we found that an assertive "no" kept them at bay. When they found they weren't going to play they soon moved on. Of course some guys hang around assuming they will get "their turn". But we make sure it's one at a time and one only. More disconcerting was the lax attitude to condoms,and cleanliness. One guy left his used condom on the bed and walked away. We told him to clean up. We also saw discarded used condoms on the floor of the wet areas. Who would do such a thing? Don't get us wrong,we liked the club but some attitudes need to change" | |||
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"In our local club around a couple of years ago we were playing with 2 single guys whilst the others where asked to stand back which all did without an issue, then an older gent came running in and started grabbing. Every one of the guys we had asked to stand back gave him a telling off en masse and he backed right off.. Anyway fast forward to the end of play and he came over too apologise and we told him it was ok just ask first, anyway it turns out abother guy had told him to do it as a way into play as it was his first time in a club and he had asked around what the etiquette was
Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
Exactly!! If no-one tells them the rules how will they know? It's a widespread myth that swingers clubs are just orgies and everyone just piles on.
Assuming newbies know any rules is ridiculously naïve. "All newbies to Townhouse get a tour of the club & have the rules & etiquette explained to them, as well as the consequences for breaking them. So even newbies know how to behave! And those who make it clear they don’t know how to behave are dealt with & are not welcome back. | |||
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"In our local club around a couple of years ago we were playing with 2 single guys whilst the others where asked to stand back which all did without an issue, then an older gent came running in and started grabbing. Every one of the guys we had asked to stand back gave him a telling off en masse and he backed right off.. Anyway fast forward to the end of play and he came over too apologise and we told him it was ok just ask first, anyway it turns out abother guy had told him to do it as a way into play as it was his first time in a club and he had asked around what the etiquette was
Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
Exactly!! If no-one tells them the rules how will they know? It's a widespread myth that swingers clubs are just orgies and everyone just piles on.
Assuming newbies know any rules is ridiculously naïve.
All newbies to Townhouse get a tour of the club & have the rules & etiquette explained to them, as well as the consequences for breaking them. So even newbies know how to behave! And those who make it clear they don’t know how to behave are dealt with & are not welcome back. "Excellent. I wish you'd teach the other clubs.
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"In our local club around a couple of years ago we were playing with 2 single guys whilst the others where asked to stand back which all did without an issue, then an older gent came running in and started grabbing. Every one of the guys we had asked to stand back gave him a telling off en masse and he backed right off.. Anyway fast forward to the end of play and he came over too apologise and we told him it was ok just ask first, anyway it turns out abother guy had told him to do it as a way into play as it was his first time in a club and he had asked around what the etiquette was
Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
Exactly!! If no-one tells them the rules how will they know? It's a widespread myth that swingers clubs are just orgies and everyone just piles on.
Assuming newbies know any rules is ridiculously naïve.
All newbies to Townhouse get a tour of the club & have the rules & etiquette explained to them, as well as the consequences for breaking them. So even newbies know how to behave! And those who make it clear they don’t know how to behave are dealt with & are not welcome back. "...and that is reflected in the behaviour at some of the events that have a higher ratio of men:women, like Milf Mon. Never seen or experienced any inappropriate behaviour at The Townhouse Milf Mon's, in fact going again on Mon. Alot of clubs could learn from this approach, cos once you lose the confidence of your ladies and couples they will go elsewhere, leaving you with a frustrated cockfest | |||
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"Come to our Club,Come to our Club Stop begging it make you sound more desperate than some of the single guys mentioned in this thread." Who is this aimed at? | |||
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"Come to our Club,Come to our Club Stop begging it make you sound more desperate than some of the single guys mentioned in this thread." I’m certainly not looking to tempt people to come to Townhouse - Bedfordshire to Merseyside is a bit of a hike! I’m merely pointing out that it is possible to manage events with high numbers of single guys and a load of club newbies by ensuring that newbies aren’t left to figure it out for themselves, and everyone understands the rules, the etiquette and the consequences for ignoring them. A lot of the comments above suggest that newbies can be a liability, because they don’t know what they’re doing. If that’s the case, problem solved! | |||
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"Yesterday, a single guy was well within the couples' only area. We were having sex at the time and I told him to leave. The same guy was pestering our friend, and she reported him. I also reported his behaviour to the staff on reception. The same man was pestering my partner at the previous Milf Club, by standing really close to her outside the changing area and grabbing her hand and placing it on his erection. She didn't want to make a fuss at the time, but I reported it to staff yesterday. There were two more instances of single men standing just within the curtain of the Couples' Area, again I alerted staff and they told them to leave the area. On both occasions it was the same guys. Must say normally VA is fine but yesterday we left early. I've emailed VA today and hope we get a response as to what they intend to do to prevent this shirt of behaviour happening again.I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women " But what about those like me who are only interested in meeting (attractive, preferably younger) single men? | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx Victim shaming at its finest. The men that behave like that will look sheepish, apologise...and try it on over and over again. They don't care that their behaviour borders on criminal, all they want is their kicks and excusing them because they have an erect penis is horrifying. Everybody knows they are not to touch or encroach, they do it because they will get away with it more often than they don't. One older man last time I was there was eventually shouted at to stop his awful, creepy approaches and carried on. Staff are told but until there is a zero tolerance policy, it goes on an on and on... How is it victim shaming? If the club won't tell the men the rules, who will? Many (most?!) newbies to clubs assume it's a free for all orgy. Swingers fuck anyone. If the club condone groping then I'd go elsewhere. If they don't kick people out then they are part of the problem. They were excusing mens behaviour by suggesting they cannot think because their cock is working. The men hold full responsibility for what they do, others don’t need to excuse them or feel sympathy for them. I read it differently then- I didn't think they were excusing men at all. They also said that some of the men wouldn't know how to behave. If no-one tells them they will never learn. " I put a real quick stop to one such character after he felt my ass for the 3rd time. I spun, took his hand and bent it in such a way as to make him grimmace in much pain and then marched him up to the check in desk. I reported it to the manager, while still holding the guy in the pain and and when the manager ask that the owner please come to the front, the guy whose hand I had in pain, spoke up and grimmiced, I'm right here. After I let him go I told him, owner or no owner, you touch me like that one more time, and I'll clean the floors with your ugly face! He just smiled as I walked back to watch my date take on 3 guys at 1 time! | |||
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"Yesterday, a single guy was well within the couples' only area. We were having sex at the time and I told him to leave. The same guy was pestering our friend, and she reported him. I also reported his behaviour to the staff on reception. The same man was pestering my partner at the previous Milf Club, by standing really close to her outside the changing area and grabbing her hand and placing it on his erection. She didn't want to make a fuss at the time, but I reported it to staff yesterday. There were two more instances of single men standing just within the curtain of the Couples' Area, again I alerted staff and they told them to leave the area. On both occasions it was the same guys. Must say normally VA is fine but yesterday we left early. I've emailed VA today and hope we get a response as to what they intend to do to prevent this shirt of behaviour happening again.I think they should exclude single men from clubs, it's the only way to preserve swinging for couples and single women But what about those like me who are only interested in meeting (attractive, preferably younger) single men? " Stick to the socials and using Fab | |||
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"Following a bad review within hours there will be half a dozen reviews insulting the person who left the bad review basically calling them a liar. I see it all the time with the club reviews here on fab. People are discouraged from speaking out otherwise your not really going to be able to go to the club again as the "regulars" will ignore you for daring to bad mouth their precious club. Even the owners are known to leave a review for themselves picking apart the negative review that was left. It's all a load of bull shit really. The clubs are quite clicky places..and people are more interested in being part of the gang. After all you can't swing unless people will swing with you... " But that's the whole idea of a review to list not only the good but the bad as well because if some have had a problem there without the bad feedback the issue goes unaddressed and the people that are doing the touching/groping etc get away with it again and again. I used to run socials in Exeter and always made it clear if someone had a bad experience I would rather they contact me either at the time or the next day so I could sort the problem out ASAP only ever had 1 person cause a problem and he was removed and banned from attending any other socials I ran again he turned up d*unk with someone who wasn't on the list and thought he could just walk in as he had attended 3 previous socials. | |||
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"You were invading their space by standing beside the bed watching. Plus what makes you think that was OK? " . I tell u what made me think it was ok. Cos the opinion that mattered was that of the club and guess what they said it was ok. Typical ehh. The perfect single guy u are. Am sure u would be thanked for yr support by asking to meet. It worked .well done | |||
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"If a guy is reported for touching pestering harassing etc he should be banned for life from the club . The club's shoukd do a club watch so the offender is blacklisted from All clubs . That's how pubs deal with it . Its supposed to be milf club for an enjoyable time for all ladies present in a safe environment. Its not wagc (wank and grope club). " Yeah if there are witnesses and it is proven otherwise that is open to abuse. | |||
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"If a guy is reported for touching pestering harassing etc he should be banned for life from the club . The club's shoukd do a club watch so the offender is blacklisted from All clubs . That's how pubs deal with it . Its supposed to be milf club for an enjoyable time for all ladies present in a safe environment. Its not wagc (wank and grope club). Yeah if there are witnesses and it is proven otherwise that is open to abuse. " ... My point exactly. A realistic reasonable single guy that knows what he is talking about | |||
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"Got to say, being honest, single men in clubs creep us out. Even those that behave, hang around on the edge, wandering from couple to couple, group to group, trying to join in the conversation in the hope of getting sex with someone.....anyone! If they even did that in a pub, they’d probably be told to fuck off, at best. I know some people like and want single men in clubs, each to their own, live and let live, etc, but behaviour like I’ve read about on this thread is not acceptable in any way, shape or form." ... fair enough and like u say everyone to there own but it's quite funny you compared a swinging club to a pub. That's the problem.we still can't differentiate the two. It's way two different avenues and it's mostly discreet. Am sure u can tell yr kids or parents or family you going to a pub right?? Ermm try telling them you going to a swingers club then you would realise they are 2 different venues. Hehe. But I get what u saying and that's the reason va had a couples only room were only couples could go n be private.theh decided to do it in the open where everyone is allowed to watch and i shouldn't have watched?? Ermmmmm | |||
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"This is a shame, disgusting behaviour. Was planning on going on the 12th but based on this thread, it’ll be empty. " ... Hahahaha. I get the humour mate | |||
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"I also think the club must make some hard rules but it maybe ackward as the s males must bring in a far bit of money in for them That's why most clubs probably won't read the men the riot act. They bring in the cash. They want a fuck and a grope. They paid their £50..... " | |||
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"This is a shame, disgusting behaviour. Was planning on going on the 12th but based on this thread, it’ll be empty. " I’m hopefully going. | |||
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"Firstly we not condone any selfish or thoughtless behaviour of any single man. However milf events are going to attract a large number of men some of whom will not know how to behave. Our tactic in these situations is always the same and 99pc of the time works. We make clear verbally that their behaviour is unacceptable and please leave the area immediately. We also explain that asking a couple before touching is an absolute must- and most single guys apologise. We try and educate as well as keep our boundaries. Our advice- be clear- verbally warn - and it usually works. Remember these men are thinking with their cocks. They need returning to their ?? brains. Love, us xxx" but when they join and shown around surely to be told the rules as they get there tour , every club we been to has. if so no excuse should be told to leave ,membership revoked | |||
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"In our local club around a couple of years ago we were playing with 2 single guys whilst the others where asked to stand back which all did without an issue, then an older gent came running in and started grabbing. Every one of the guys we had asked to stand back gave him a telling off en masse and he backed right off.. Anyway fast forward to the end of play and he came over too apologise and we told him it was ok just ask first, anyway it turns out abother guy had told him to do it as a way into play as it was his first time in a club and he had asked around what the etiquette was
Someone had obviously set him up for a fall, so my point is why oh why don't single guys get reminded how to act to protect themselves and others? A lot of people do not frequent fab and really don't know the dos and don'ts and just presume it's a free for all.. Although overall we have had more issues with packs of single females not asking to be fair
Exactly!! If no-one tells them the rules how will they know? It's a widespread myth that swingers clubs are just orgies and everyone just piles on.
Assuming newbies know any rules is ridiculously naïve.
All newbies to Townhouse get a tour of the club & have the rules & etiquette explained to them, as well as the consequences for breaking them. So even newbies know how to behave! And those who make it clear they don’t know how to behave are dealt with & are not welcome back.
...and that is reflected in the behaviour at some of the events that have a higher ratio of men:women, like Milf Mon. Never seen or experienced any inappropriate behaviour at The Townhouse Milf Mon's, in fact going again on Mon.
Alot of clubs could learn from this approach, cos once you lose the confidence of your ladies and couples they will go elsewhere, leaving you with a frustrated cockfest ".....and just to report back- went to Milf Mon at Townhouse yesterday and had a full on foursome. Plenty of male spectators, but all respectful of the scene and staff on visable enough to ensure it remained that way. So some clubs have got it right. Dont let this thread put you off clubs. Just chose wisely. | |||
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