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"Each club has a different set of rules. Pending which club you would venture to. My first time going to a club was my last coz it was about 6 men to 1 woman. Like i say all depends." Wow total sausage party then. | |||
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"our tips ...dress smart ...smell nice ...smile ...say hello to couples ...dont pester....compliment ladies ...talk to guy as well ...u never know u may score lol" | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude " Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. | |||
"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "It depends what you want from a club experience. I have been to clubs but never on my own. I generally meet 1-2-1 with women on here and occasionally, there is a mutual decision to attend a club together. The visit doesnt always mean you have to be exclusive to one another whilst there - agree your boundaries before you go and you are sorted. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " ...we’ll leaveit, thank you  | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " Or if you want guaranteed sex pay an Escort. Job done. | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " It what works for each individual my advice Op is to go expecting nothing and you won’t be disappointed Although I spend months not particularly active on here the fact I’ve visited clubs over the last couple of years means when wishing to meet I’m able to call on a network of likeminded friends and receive party invitations.This I find preferable to sending out random messages on here | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " Do have a solid point | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. It what works for each individual my advice Op is to go expecting nothing and you won’t be disappointed Although I spend months not particularly active on here the fact I’ve visited clubs over the last couple of years means when wishing to meet I’m able to call on a network of likeminded friends and receive party invitations.This I find preferable to sending out random messages on here " like that previous comment, its abit costly for a single guy to go to a club and not get any action. I know nothing ventured nothing gained but if you ain't gained you're out of pocket. For what? A wank when you get home. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. It what works for each individual my advice Op is to go expecting nothing and you won’t be disappointed Although I spend months not particularly active on here the fact I’ve visited clubs over the last couple of years means when wishing to meet I’m able to call on a network of likeminded friends and receive party invitations.This I find preferable to sending out random messages on here like that previous comment, its abit costly for a single guy to go to a club and not get any action. I know nothing ventured nothing gained but if you ain't gained you're out of pocket. For what? A wank when you get home." There’s no guarantees but you can tilt the odds in your favour by doing some homework when deciding which club to visit Then again you could always stay home and save about £30 and send out about 50 messages and hope you get the odd reply | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " Harsh, Yes. Truths, No. Your opinion and your entitled to it but if you think it's ok for anyone, male, female, or couples, to go to a club and EXPECT sex your wrong. If you want a guaranteed shag go to a brothel. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. Harsh, Yes. Truths, No. Your opinion and your entitled to it but if you think it's ok for anyone, male, female, or couples, to go to a club and EXPECT sex your wrong. If you want a guaranteed shag go to a brothel." Alright then. Let's play by your definition and explanation here. So apparently people who go to a sex swinger club with the explicit intention in their mind that they want sex are wrong. So you're basically advocating the same approach that anyone would take on a normal night out to a vanilla normal nightclub or bar on the high street for swinger clubs too. So you're basically saying a swinger club is pretty much not that different than any other normal nightclub out there... Except... What? A different group of people there who are more sexually open? Really? Like swingers and sexually adventurous people don't attend both sorts of night places. Except in one case as a single guy I'm gonna pay through the nose and get it rubbed in by people telling me that "oh you're in a swinger sex club but don't expect sex yeah", and in the other case I'm not paying through the nose so much and I'm actually having a night out with no expectations because surprise surprjse THEY DIDN'T MARKET THEMSELVES AS A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SWINGING SEX AT. God. My point so hard to understand? | |||
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"Your opinion and your entitled to it but if you think it's ok for anyone, male, female, or couples, to go to a club and EXPECT sex your wrong. If you want a guaranteed shag go to a brothel." We expect sex. We don't expect sex from any particular person but we expect to find someone we can have sex with and very rarely are we disappointed. While sex is never guaranteed, we do find it strange that people will pay to go to a swingers club with the expectation that they will have a good social night and that will be enough. | |||
"Your opinion and your entitled to it but if you think it's ok for anyone, male, female, or couples, to go to a club and EXPECT sex your wrong. If you want a guaranteed shag go to a brothel. We expect sex. We don't expect sex from any particular person but we expect to find someone we can have sex with and very rarely are we disappointed. While sex is never guaranteed, we do find it strange that people will pay to go to a swingers club with the expectation that they will have a good social night and that will be enough. " THIS. THANK YOU. | |||
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"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog ". In London we have two clubs that require you to be a member one of which I am a member.I attend as a single guy and generally have a good time I chat to men , women and couples some of the women and couples have allowed me to play others are not interested.Yes it can be frustrating if you are not asked to play but unfortunately that’s life we are not going to be to every ones liking. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " Great post | |||
"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "The only single males 'frowned upon' in clubs are the ones who wander around, cock in hand, looking for any piece of 'action', without any kind of social interaction. Every club welcomes single guys, you just need to check what times there may be restrictions. Don't expect sex. No really, don't. Shh in Newcastle or Club F in Durham will be your closest, after that CJ's in Glasgow, No.3 in Chorley, or New Enticed in Preston. Coming from Carlisle you're as geographically challenged as I am, and a 60 mile (at least) drive to a club for the first time, by yourself, is a test of nerve in itself. You only need to get through the front door after that 
Don't be put off; do try to visit one or two. These places are all different, and different on different nights. At least you'll having bragging rights with your mates afterwards to be able to say you've been to one 
Personally; I won't be visiting any others without a pre-arranged meet in place.
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"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex." An "unusual" glass of something at the local pub, or even entering the local pub, isn't worth the sort of price single men pay to attend a swingers club. Nor is it worth the condescending treatment of single men as merely accessories to sexual fantasies. Something that is far less likely to happen with the treatment of single female unicorn swingers and couples. | |||
"Visit a swinger club they said. It'd be fun they said. Don't expect sex they said. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex when you visit a place that would charge you at least £20 or more for entry. Into a club that is explicitly marketed as a place where people go to have crazy group sex and swinging sex at. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex. Just pay and go and grin it up with the socialising. And hope you got your £20 or more's worth of socialising action, not counting money you spend on drinks, or travel costs if you're out of town. And you know, if you do get laid at a swinging club from a woman or a couple there? It's charity for you as a single guy. You're just the cock they want for the night to fulfill their fantasy. To sate their desires. You don't matter. Remember that. Because as a single guy you're not supposed to go to a sex club with a mentality that you expect to play there and you'll go out to get it. /sarcasm Oh and before anyone throws brickbats and makes insinuations about me, I've visited clubs in the past. And I'm not the sort to walk around tugging on myself and perving in corridors stalking women or couples. Because I'm not packing eight inches of heat in my pants to show off to the meat eaters in a club that I've got plenty for them to gorge on! " . £20.In London it’s £40 - £80 as a single guy depending on which of the two clubs you are a member of otherwise it’s Rios spa £25 for a single guy. | |||
"Visit a swinger club they said. It'd be fun they said. Don't expect sex they said. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex when you visit a place that would charge you at least £20 or more for entry. Into a club that is explicitly marketed as a place where people go to have crazy group sex and swinging sex at. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex. Just pay and go and grin it up with the socialising. And hope you got your £20 or more's worth of socialising action, not counting money you spend on drinks, or travel costs if you're out of town. And you know, if you do get laid at a swinging club from a woman or a couple there? It's charity for you as a single guy. You're just the cock they want for the night to fulfill their fantasy. To sate their desires. You don't matter. Remember that. Because as a single guy you're not supposed to go to a sex club with a mentality that you expect to play there and you'll go out to get it. /sarcasm Oh and before anyone throws brickbats and makes insinuations about me, I've visited clubs in the past. And I'm not the sort to walk around tugging on myself and perving in corridors stalking women or couples. Because I'm not packing eight inches of heat in my pants to show off to the meat eaters in a club that I've got plenty for them to gorge on! . £20.In London it’s £40 - £80 as a single guy depending on which of the two clubs you are a member of otherwise it’s Rios spa £25 for a single guy." I just erred on the lower side of the price point. But thanks for telling us about prices in the capital. Just makes my point even more prescient. | |||
"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex. An "unusual" glass of something at the local pub, or even entering the local pub, isn't worth the sort of price single men pay to attend a swingers club. Nor is it worth the condescending treatment of single men as merely accessories to sexual fantasies. Something that is far less likely to happen with the treatment of single female unicorn swingers and couples. " Your choice, might be cheaper to hire someone. | |||
"Check club reviews to find out about possible club's near you. Most have some nights that single men can visit and others that you can't. I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude " . Great advice Lizzy | |||
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"Visit a swinger club they said. It'd be fun they said. Don't expect sex they said. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex when you visit a place that would charge you at least £20 or more for entry. Into a club that is explicitly marketed as a place where people go to have crazy group sex and swinging sex at. No. Seriously. Don't expect sex. Just pay and go and grin it up with the socialising. And hope you got your £20 or more's worth of socialising action, not counting money you spend on drinks, or travel costs if you're out of town. And you know, if you do get laid at a swinging club from a woman or a couple there? It's charity for you as a single guy. You're just the cock they want for the night to fulfill their fantasy. To sate their desires. You don't matter. Remember that. Because as a single guy you're not supposed to go to a sex club with a mentality that you expect to play there and you'll go out to get it. /sarcasm Oh and before anyone throws brickbats and makes insinuations about me, I've visited clubs in the past. And I'm not the sort to walk around tugging on myself and perving in corridors stalking women or couples. Because I'm not packing eight inches of heat in my pants to show off to the meat eaters in a club that I've got plenty for them to gorge on! . £20.In London it’s £40 - £80 as a single guy depending on which of the two clubs you are a member of otherwise it’s Rios spa £25 for a single guy. I just erred on the lower side of the price point. But thanks for telling us about prices in the capital. Just makes my point even more prescient. " . I am a member of one of the clubs in London and I have always gone with the attitude of no expectations.This has generally worked for me as it makes for a relaxed night the last thing I want is to be the idiot thinking I am entitled to sex as I have paid £40 - £60 and getting myself banned.On a couple of occasions nonething has happened but I have enjoyed my night and had a catch with the lovely hostess as well as one or two friends. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " That is a pretty fair summary of a single mans lot at a club. | |||
"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex. An "unusual" glass of something at the local pub, or even entering the local pub, isn't worth the sort of price single men pay to attend a swingers club. Nor is it worth the condescending treatment of single men as merely accessories to sexual fantasies. Something that is far less likely to happen with the treatment of single female unicorn swingers and couples. " But I would have thought that single women are more likely to be regarded as accessories to fantasies than men anywhere. | |||
"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex. An "unusual" glass of something at the local pub, or even entering the local pub, isn't worth the sort of price single men pay to attend a swingers club. Nor is it worth the condescending treatment of single men as merely accessories to sexual fantasies. Something that is far less likely to happen with the treatment of single female unicorn swingers and couples. But I would have thought that single women are more likely to be regarded as accessories to fantasies than men anywhere. " Not on Fab no that isn't the case! You're far more likely to see couple seek men out here with an objectifying eye (aka must be hung, athletic, white/black) than seeking out women with such an objectifying eye. | |||
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"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. " Minority ruin it for the majority. | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. Minority ruin it for the majority. " Yeah. But there are also the minority of single women and couples who ruin it for their kind too. So why don't couples or single women get the same sort of generalisation that single men get slapped with? | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. Minority ruin it for the majority. Yeah. But there are also the minority of single women and couples who ruin it for their kind too. So why don't couples or single women get the same sort of generalisation that single men get slapped with? " Probably coz there's more men that woman. There was a similar point you just made on my thread earlier today about feminism | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. Minority ruin it for the majority. Yeah. But there are also the minority of single women and couples who ruin it for their kind too. So why don't couples or single women get the same sort of generalisation that single men get slapped with? " Because some are objects of desire and men are a plenty. So they can piss off as many as they like. Doesn't attract me to them the ones on the forum who slag men off I just block as there is no way I'm letting such a negative person near me. I'm protecting my bubble | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club." Money doesn't give someone class. In fact I'm more inclined to believe that those men with more money to spray out on a night out are going to be far more likely to be boors because they've been so used to money getting their way in everything. | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. Minority ruin it for the majority. Yeah. But there are also the minority of single women and couples who ruin it for their kind too. So why don't couples or single women get the same sort of generalisation that single men get slapped with? Probably coz there's more men that woman. There was a similar point you just made on my thread earlier today about feminism" Think you got the wrong person? I don't remember genuinely about commenting on a feminist thread. | |||
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"If a man pays let's say £60 to get in. Another £30 for drinks etc. He better off getting a bj off some hooker on aw site at least he getting something out of it." And then cue the righteous warriors who would then scream on about how men objectify women by paying them for sex... But we digress. This thread has gone off track far enough. My original advice still stands. If you're a single guy and you're. It invited by a couple or a single woman to go to a swinger club? DON'T. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club. Money doesn't give someone class. In fact I'm more inclined to believe that those men with more money to spray out on a night out are going to be far more likely to be boors because they've been so used to money getting their way in everything. " Nah I think it does to a degree, if it was too cheap you would get a lot of dickheads and most dickheads don't have money. | |||
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"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. Minority ruin it for the majority. Yeah. But there are also the minority of single women and couples who ruin it for their kind too. So why don't couples or single women get the same sort of generalisation that single men get slapped with? Probably coz there's more men that woman. There was a similar point you just made on my thread earlier today about feminism Think you got the wrong person? I don't remember genuinely about commenting on a feminist thread. " I wasn't meaning you per say. The point you brought up summat similar was mentioned on my thread. Basically blaming the mem | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club. Money doesn't give someone class. In fact I'm more inclined to believe that those men with more money to spray out on a night out are going to be far more likely to be boors because they've been so used to money getting their way in everything. Nah I think it does to a degree, if it was too cheap you would get a lot of dickheads and most dickheads don't have money. " In my personal experience dick heads with no money are far less obnoxious than those with money to burn and aren't afraid to show it. At least dick heads with no money are easier to filter out. What about those who are loaded and can get away with much more? | |||
"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex. An "unusual" glass of something at the local pub, or even entering the local pub, isn't worth the sort of price single men pay to attend a swingers club. Nor is it worth the condescending treatment of single men as merely accessories to sexual fantasies. Something that is far less likely to happen with the treatment of single female unicorn swingers and couples. But I would have thought that single women are more likely to be regarded as accessories to fantasies than men anywhere. Not on Fab no that isn't the case! You're far more likely to see couple seek men out here with an objectifying eye (aka must be hung, athletic, white/black) than seeking out women with such an objectifying eye. " Yeah, agree with that but that is a different thing. Nobody would dare, with serious intent, put conditions on single women because of their rarity. But it isn't unknown for couples to seek single women where the male of the couple is 'just happy to watch'. | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club. Money doesn't give someone class. In fact I'm more inclined to believe that those men with more money to spray out on a night out are going to be far more likely to be boors because they've been so used to money getting their way in everything. Nah I think it does to a degree, if it was too cheap you would get a lot of dickheads and most dickheads don't have money. In my personal experience dick heads with no money are far less obnoxious than those with money to burn and aren't afraid to show it. At least dick heads with no money are easier to filter out. What about those who are loaded and can get away with much more? " I'm talking like Jeremy Kyle style dickheads. I just think the majority of guys who can afford it won't be too disappointed if they felt they didn't get value for their money. They can try their luck next time, improve their approach etc. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. I get your point and your passion. The guy's going again after their first time will realise how it works. I have never expected sex when going a club but I have tried hard to get it. Sometimes I could of had it but i didn't Want to as the options there were not to my taste. That is the risk when you pay your entrance fee it is like a gamble. Unfortunately like gambling there is a lot of losers. I also think the price is to attract a better class of single men especially if they wanted to go regularly to be able to afford it. By doing that it attracts more couples and single females to the club. Money doesn't give someone class. In fact I'm more inclined to believe that those men with more money to spray out on a night out are going to be far more likely to be boors because they've been so used to money getting their way in everything. Nah I think it does to a degree, if it was too cheap you would get a lot of dickheads and most dickheads don't have money. In my personal experience dick heads with no money are far less obnoxious than those with money to burn and aren't afraid to show it. At least dick heads with no money are easier to filter out. What about those who are loaded and can get away with much more? I'm talking like Jeremy Kyle style dickheads. I just think the majority of guys who can afford it won't be too disappointed if they felt they didn't get value for their money. They can try their luck next time, improve their approach etc. " I've only seen that programme a few times and I know what you mean | |||
"What I would like to say is there are women I know who have gone to clubs and enjoyed it. Also some lovely women on here some I really enjoy talking too and enjoying banter on the forum with. But the way I feel I've been victimised because I'm a single man has killed my appetite to meet and I recently blocked one incredibly stunning woman I was talking to because of her bashing forum post about men. I'll admit it,I never thought I'd lose my mojo but at the moment I'm finding the bitchy attitude is nothing short of bullying and ive resigned myself to not meeting anymore just use the forums." Come on man gotta adapt, overcome and improvise. We are not that oppressed. A good single guy is a unicorn in itself. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. Or if you want guaranteed sex pay an Escort. Job done." Go to a club that has "hostesses" like Retro Club or the Private Club if you want a guaranteed fuck | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. It what works for each individual my advice Op is to go expecting nothing and you won’t be disappointed Although I spend months not particularly active on here the fact I’ve visited clubs over the last couple of years means when wishing to meet I’m able to call on a network of likeminded friends and receive party invitations.This I find preferable to sending out random messages on here like that previous comment, its abit costly for a single guy to go to a club and not get any action. I know nothing ventured nothing gained but if you ain't gained you're out of pocket. For what? A wank when you get home." You could go a nightclub ... pay to get in....spend a fortune on taxis and well overpriced drinks... chat up a lady or 2 buy them drinks and still end up on your own having a wank at home!!! | |||
"What I would like to say is there are women I know who have gone to clubs and enjoyed it. Also some lovely women on here some I really enjoy talking too and enjoying banter on the forum with. But the way I feel I've been victimised because I'm a single man has killed my appetite to meet and I recently blocked one incredibly stunning woman I was talking to because of her bashing forum post about men. I'll admit it,I never thought I'd lose my mojo but at the moment I'm finding the bitchy attitude is nothing short of bullying and ive resigned myself to not meeting anymore just use the forums. Come on man gotta adapt, overcome and improvise. We are not that oppressed. A good single guy is a unicorn in itself." | |||
"The shadow warriors of “dread” are minuscule to the fun you will have. Treat it as a (okay unusual) glass of something at the local pub. Be respectful. It is a group of likeminded people looking for fun, not a cattle market of sex." | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. It what works for each individual my advice Op is to go expecting nothing and you won’t be disappointed Although I spend months not particularly active on here the fact I’ve visited clubs over the last couple of years means when wishing to meet I’m able to call on a network of likeminded friends and receive party invitations.This I find preferable to sending out random messages on here like that previous comment, its abit costly for a single guy to go to a club and not get any action. I know nothing ventured nothing gained but if you ain't gained you're out of pocket. For what? A wank when you get home. You could go a nightclub ... pay to get in....spend a fortune on taxis and well overpriced drinks... chat up a lady or 2 buy them drinks and still end up on your own having a wank at home!!!" I think in that scenario it'll be more of an easy environment. clubs can be uncomfortable at times walking round with an uncomfortable boner | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " I will leave it thanks. I have visited about 7 UK club's over the last few years and am a regular at one. I can tell you that although single guys do pat more than single ladies or couples, it's all about supply and demand. If guys entry price was lowered , the club's would be swamped by single guys and that would overwhelm most members. I know I certainly would feel uncomfortable with a bad ratio of men to women. Charging £30 to enter....gives you 6 hours of entertainment....music , DJ, fun people to talk to and the chance to watch and maybe join in with sex. I said don't expect to have sex every time, because the guys that seem to believe they are entitled to sex are in the wrong place. However, guys with the right attitude enjoy the evening and even if they don't have fun that night , if they have been relaxed, smiling, chatting and mingling, have a much better chance of being recognised on their next visit, than the guys standing with a pint , who appear out of nowhere expecting to join a couple that he hasn't even spoken to. If you think that advise is patronising, then that's cool. You stay at home sending out random messages and let the intelligent interesting guys attend clubs. By the way many club's let you take your own alcohol, so you won't be spending a fortune on drinks either. Men often comment that attending the club is much cheaper than a normal night out with mates. | |||
" I said don't expect to have sex every time, because the guys that seem to believe they are entitled to sex are in the wrong place." Would you ever tell single women or couples the same thing, that they shouldn't expect to go to a sex club without explicitly going there seeking sex? Nobody's talking "entitlement" here, but face it if you are paying the sort of entrance fees single men are paying to get into any establishment, tell me it's not human nature that you want to get the most out of it? This is one of the reasons why I don't like the high price entry points for single men. It just drives such attitudes, and it serves zero use in ing out bad behaviour amongst single men; arguably it makes it worse because those who can afford to pay the entrance price and are also simultaneously dicks would be even worse offenders that think they can get away with anything because they're loaded. " However, guys with the right attitude enjoy the evening and even if they don't have fun that night , if they have been relaxed, smiling, chatting and mingling, have a much better chance of being recognised on their next visit, than the guys standing with a pint , who appear out of nowhere expecting to join a couple that he hasn't even spoken to. If you think that advise is patronising, then that's cool. You stay at home sending out random messages and let the intelligent interesting guys attend clubs. By the way many club's let you take your own alcohol, so you won't be spending a fortune on drinks either. " I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! | |||
" I will leave it thanks. I have visited about 7 UK club's over the last few years and am a regular at one. I can tell you that although single guys do pat more than single ladies or couples, it's all about supply and demand. If guys entry price was lowered , the club's would be swamped by single guys and that would overwhelm most members. I know I certainly would feel uncomfortable with a bad ratio of men to women. Charging £30 to enter....gives you 6 hours of entertainment....music , DJ, fun people to talk to and the chance to watch and maybe join in with sex. I said don't expect to have sex every time, because the guys that seem to believe they are entitled to sex are in the wrong place. However, guys with the right attitude enjoy the evening and even if they don't have fun that night , if they have been relaxed, smiling, chatting and mingling, have a much better chance of being recognised on their next visit, than the guys standing with a pint , who appear out of nowhere expecting to join a couple that he hasn't even spoken to. If you think that advise is patronising, then that's cool. You stay at home sending out random messages and let the intelligent interesting guys attend clubs. By the way many club's let you take your own alcohol, so you won't be spending a fortune on drinks either. Men often comment that attending the club is much cheaper than a normal night out with mates. "Oh, and before you're tempted to shoot some reply against me here, take a look at my profile. You don't get the sort of verifications that I have on my account from the past few years by being a dick or being a single man that breaks all the rules of being a decent and nice person on Fab or in real life. So whatever I say does hold weight, as much as it might be biased in my own perspective, don't you or anyone try to insinuate that it's because I'm the wrong sort of swinger on this site or because I've done stuff wrong in the past. | |||
" Would you ever tell single women or couples the same thing, that they shouldn't expect to go to a sex club without explicitly going there seeking sex? Nobody's talking "entitlement" here, but face it if you are paying the sort of entrance fees single men are paying to get into any establishment, tell me it's not human nature that you want to get the most out of it? Yes. I help do tours at my local club and tell single males, females and couples not to expect sex. Getting the most out of it, means chatting to people. One guy was very sociable and next time he visited the club was invited to join a couple, was told about a Gangbang by a single guy he chatted to and also swapped contact details that led to another meet. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! " And here we find the real problem. I am referring to swingers clubs. You are talking about sex clubs. I am aware that you are not the OP. Maybe others would like to assist the OP . I would hate for him to just have our opinions. Let's agree to disagree . If club's are not the best place for you, then that's fine | |||
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" I will leave it thanks. I have visited about 7 UK club's over the last few years and am a regular at one. I can tell you that although single guys do pat more than single ladies or couples, it's all about supply and demand. If guys entry price was lowered , the club's would be swamped by single guys and that would overwhelm most members. I know I certainly would feel uncomfortable with a bad ratio of men to women. Charging £30 to enter....gives you 6 hours of entertainment....music , DJ, fun people to talk to and the chance to watch and maybe join in with sex. I said don't expect to have sex every time, because the guys that seem to believe they are entitled to sex are in the wrong place. However, guys with the right attitude enjoy the evening and even if they don't have fun that night , if they have been relaxed, smiling, chatting and mingling, have a much better chance of being recognised on their next visit, than the guys standing with a pint , who appear out of nowhere expecting to join a couple that he hasn't even spoken to. If you think that advise is patronising, then that's cool. You stay at home sending out random messages and let the intelligent interesting guys attend clubs. By the way many club's let you take your own alcohol, so you won't be spending a fortune on drinks either. Men often comment that attending the club is much cheaper than a normal night out with mates. "Totally agree xx | |||
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"OP i noticed you're from Carlisle I'm from barrow, i don't know how often but they do a swingers meet up in Windermere but might be worth a look into. Closer than traveling as far as Manchester" Cheers mate | |||
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"OP I feel for you, I'd love to visit a club to see what it's like. But I'm just too nervous to go as a single male. Can just imagine going, and end up standing myself half the night and going home early haha. But I really hope you go for it and let us know how it goes. As for TheldesofMarch you clearly have some very strong views on clubs (and other subjects) which I'm sure the OP has taken into consideration. But please also let other people have their say. Opinions differ. As for the price for single males, supply and demand. It's really as simple as that. Someone mentioned a cockfest earlier. The higher prices are to help prevent that. Sadly how it is." It was aye that mentioned the cock fest. It was a singles night literally about 7 males to 1 female but still charged me £30 to get hit on by men. I stayed for about an hour. Its ridiculous the price for single guys | |||
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" I host 2 club events - Milf Monday is a 3:1 ratio as it’s a greedy girl event, and the price is £10 entry for guys. Buxom Babes is a 1:1.5 ratio & is £20 for non member males. Plus, the bar is subsidised. " BB sounds like a fun night... Why does it have to be at the opposite end of the country from me... Booo | |||
"OP I feel for you, I'd love to visit a club to see what it's like. But I'm just too nervous to go as a single male. Can just imagine going, and end up standing myself half the night and going home early haha. But I really hope you go for it and let us know how it goes. As for TheldesofMarch you clearly have some very strong views on clubs (and other subjects) which I'm sure the OP has taken into consideration. But please also let other people have their say. Opinions differ. As for the price for single males, supply and demand. It's really as simple as that. Someone mentioned a cockfest earlier. The higher prices are to help prevent that. Sadly how it is. It was aye that mentioned the cock fest. It was a singles night literally about 7 males to 1 female but still charged me £30 to get hit on by men. I stayed for about an hour. Its ridiculous the price for single guys" £30 and not even a sniff of fanny. You poor thing. Maybe better buying an escorts time in future. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " You'd best steer clear then. "Swinging" basically means sharing your partner, mutual encounters... swapping. So as a solo guy, where's the swap? Bearing that in mind a lot of couples enjoy encounters with select guys. With the emphasis on select. A lot of couples don't want mmf. If you want a guaranteed shag as a solo guy then go on the pull in town, or get an escort. Dont expect anything at all from a club visit. Couples don't expect anything. Either it happens or it doesn't. But the majority of couples is sick of pestering solo guys demanding sex. The "I've paid so I'm gonna play" attitude spoils it for the pleasant solo guys. Respect, hygiene, intelect, smart appearance. That's what's going to get you laid. | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. Respect, hygiene, intelect, smart appearance. That's what's going to get you laid. " I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you here (based on my clubs experience) | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. Respect, hygiene, intelect, smart appearance. That's what's going to get you laid. I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you here (based on my clubs experience) "Yeah you have to have all of that and be a handsome fucker with a decent body aswell. | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. Respect, hygiene, intelect, smart appearance. That's what's going to get you laid. I’m sorry, but I have to disagree with you here (based on my clubs experience) Yeah you have to have all of that and be a handsome fucker with a decent body aswell."Ahh right, no wonder I struggle | |||
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"Everyones club experiance differant. We bump into a lot of the same single guys in clubs quite often. They are not drop dead gorgeous. Normal everyday people. They have respect, can have a conversation and easy to get on with. They seem to have no problems playing with people. Social skills more important then going to a gym 10 times a day. See the guys who think they look amazing sat in the corner after being rejected many times because they think just that will get them attention." Attraction can be relative obviously. If you are the type of guy that couldn't pull in a brothel though, a swingers club is not gonna be any different. You might get the odd nymphomaniac or blindfolded woman who let's you have a go but you will be disappointed frequently. | |||
"Everyones club experiance differant. We bump into a lot of the same single guys in clubs quite often. They are not drop dead gorgeous. Normal everyday people. They have respect, can have a conversation and easy to get on with. They seem to have no problems playing with people. Social skills more important then going to a gym 10 times a day. See the guys who think they look amazing sat in the corner after being rejected many times because they think just that will get them attention. Attraction can be relative obviously. If you are the type of guy that couldn't pull in a brothel though, a swingers club is not gonna be any different. You might get the odd nymphomaniac or blindfolded woman who let's you have a go but you will be disappointed frequently. " I have already christened myself ‘The Man Who Couldn’t Get Laid In A Swingers’ Club’ | |||
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"to me in the world of equality the entry should be same for all" The prices are generally set to reflect the market. Fewer solo fems are generally in clubs so their entry is less, there are more solo guys. | |||
"to me in the world of equality the entry should be same for all The prices are generally set to reflect the market. Fewer solo fems are generally in clubs so their entry is less, there are more solo guys. " still think it should be same | |||
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"to me in the world of equality the entry should be same for all The prices are generally set to reflect the market. Fewer solo fems are generally in clubs so their entry is less, there are more solo guys. still think it should be same" It's worth considering that if solo guys paid less, there would be even more solo guys in clubs which would make your opportunity of playtime even lower. Also, fewer couples would go in. Some clubs have set evenings without solo guys for a reason. | |||
"I have already christened myself ‘The Man Who Couldn’t Get Laid In A Swingers’ Club’ "Didn't you pull when you went to Vicky's birthday @ TH? | |||
"I have already christened myself ‘The Man Who Couldn’t Get Laid In A Swingers’ Club’
Didn't you pull when you went to Vicky's birthday @ TH?"Yes and no mate, I didn’t have sex | |||
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"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "Evening or daytime visits? Go with a mind set to socialise not to fuck. If you are an easy going, friendly approachable guy, then I can't see why you wouldn't find fun x | |||
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"A swinger club is a bar or social place where people ‘can’ have sex. I go to clubs (male half) on my own because they are fun and you make great friends. I don’t go there to have sex but if the mood and company are right then it’s great that you can have sex there. They are just like a normal club but with a normal club you have to take the person back to your house. " | |||
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"I did try one time on spur of the moment with some courage while in Blackpool it was latish about 11-30 and guy on door said to many people in i was alone and being a tv cd i had to trudge back to hotel embarrassed i not saying we should have preference but i was alone and didnt seem full to me i haven't been to a club since .nor to Blackpool again after that " You'll enjoy Club Sx | |||
"Check club reviews to find out about possible club's near you. Most have some nights that single men can visit and others that you can't. I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude " What Lizzy says | |||
"“Pull” ?! Really? "is "pull" a term people here don't like/use?! | |||
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"our tips ...dress smart ...smell nice ...smile ...say hello to couples ...dont pester....compliment ladies ...talk to guy as well ...u never know u may score lol" This person is right on the button... | |||
"our tips ...dress smart ...smell nice ...smile ...say hello to couples ...dont pester....compliment ladies ...talk to guy as well ...u never know u may score lol" Good advice x | |||
"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "I’ve been to several clubs on my own, it is nerve wracking, but just be polite, friendly & no pushy. There’s no guarantees you will get to play, but I would suggest you try a greedy girl night first, they are definitely more open to guys. Build your rapour & friendships there, you may be lucky enough to be invited to a couples or Saturday night event.  | |||
"“Pull” ?! Really?
is "pull" a term people here don't like/use?!"I’ve never heard it used in clubs ... and there is a world of difference between blokes (or girls) going out in vanilla clubs ‘on the pull’ and the way people get together in Swingers clubs. ‘Pull’ just makes it sounds a bit chavvy “ ... I pulled this bird last week & took her home & fucked her all night” Clubs are more “ ... I met this great couple and we had a great laugh. We took it up to the play rooms & had an amazing threesome” Totally different connotations! | |||
"‘Pull’ just makes it sounds a bit chavvy “ ... I pulled this bird last week & took her home & fucked her all night”" Saying I've got Chavvy vernacular, Mrs? 
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"“Pull” ?! Really?
is "pull" a term people here don't like/use?!
I’ve never heard it used in clubs ... and there is a world of difference between blokes (or girls) going out in vanilla clubs ‘on the pull’ and the way people get together in Swingers clubs.
‘Pull’ just makes it sounds a bit chavvy “ ... I pulled this bird last week & took her home & fucked her all night”
Clubs are more “ ... I met this great couple and we had a great laugh. We took it up to the play rooms & had an amazing threesome”
Totally different connotations!"Pulling generally requires a lot more groundwork in a bar of club than a swingers club though. Haha have you read some of the verifications on here not exactly classy. | |||
"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "I like the club scene. The first time I went to a club I drove and didn't drink as didn't know what to expect so I could run off if I wanted lol. I went in pooping my pants so I had one drink to calm my nerves and started to chat to a couple outside who was having a fag just like you would in a normal club. Later on that night I meet them inside sat down with them and they introduced my to there friends. I had a good night chatting away and having a dance. I didn't go there expecting anything. Once you have been a few times you get to know people like in your local. I have been about 7 times now (yea on my own) yea I have had some happy endings but every time I go I have a great night. My last experience was at Eureka Halloween party omg what a great night that was and being on fab helps to connect with people you meet at the clubs. So you might not have a happy ending on the night but people will see you showing respect to couples and other women and they would get in touch on here like they did with me. So I would say go for it. Once you have done it once it gets easier and I have made some new mates female and male. The only trouble I have is I can't stay off the dance floor lol hope this helps | |||
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"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. " Why wrong? | |||
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"Haha have you read some of the verifications on here not exactly classy. " Some go along the lines of, she bangs like a shithouse door in the wind, treat her with respect.  | |||
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" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " | |||
" Pulling generally requires a lot more groundwork in a bar of club than a swingers club though. Haha have you read some of the verifications on here not exactly classy. " That’s my point - ‘pulling’ is more calculated and usually involves a guy talking a girl into sex. Club meets are a lot mor equal & open
And from reading some of the forum threads, I’d imagine there are some really impressive veri’s on here - don’t tend to read them though as I only ever play in clubs! | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? " According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong | |||
" I go as a single lady and sometimes just chat , socialise and dance, and other times have fun with single guys. Just presume it's a place that people go to have fun if they meet people they like. So chat to as many people as you can and see how the evening goes. Don't expect to have sex on every visit. Plan to have a good evening and meet great fun people and maybe get some verifications and contacts for future meets. Clubs are great places if you go with the right attitude Might I hazard a point of debate here? The attitude of "go to a club and don't expect to play every time" usually works out better only for couples and single women than it does for single men. Club visits often mean a not insignificant financial cost to single men attending, because they pay at least twice if not more than twice what couples and single women would pay for entry. So from a financial standpoint of view, it does stick in the craw if you're gonna straight up tell single men to go to clubs but not have the mentality of expecting to play each time they visit, because that ends up crossing over the line to the side of making men feel like they're just cash cows for clubs to milk and they just have to suck it up and not complain or anything. There is a reason why social meets exist, for those who are seeking social connections and networking with an eye for potential future play. Nobody overtly goes to a swinger club with the mentality that sex isn't going to be on their minds, and if anyone does then frankly they're financial mugs and deserve to get ripped off. Finally, I find this sort of advice given to single men to "go to clubs with the right attitude" pretty patronising, and blatantly ignorant of the reality that is the gender imbalance between men and women/couples on the swinging scene. Women and couples can afford to go into swinging and specifically swinger clubs with the mentality you described (go and socialise, have a good night, play is secondary on one's mind) because let's face it, there's NEVER going to be a single night whereby they won't be in demand or attractive to someone in a swinger club. Could you say the same for single men going to clubs? That's why my best advice for single men considering to go to clubs is: don't. Don't waste your time and money going there when there are still so many women and couples on here who would have the patronising double standards of thinking men should pay double or more to go to a swinger club and yet only they should be subjected to the mentality of "don't expect pay to play at a swinger club" simply by virtue of single mens' positions as an oversaturated proportion of the swinging community here. Don't go to clubs when they still practice extreme price discrimination however way they choose to spin and justify it. Stick to socials and individually-arranged meets on Fab as single men. It's far more equal that way and there isn't such a massive upfront cost from the get-go that going club swinging entails. Sorry, harsh truths. My opinion, take it or leave it. " I wouldn't go to a club if I was a man either. | |||
"A swinger club is a bar or social place where people ‘can’ have sex. I go to clubs (male half) on my own because they are fun and you make great friends. I don’t go there to have sex but if the mood and company are right then it’s great that you can have sex there. They are just like a normal club but with a normal club you have to take the person back to your house. " Hi, which clubs do you recommend going to as a single male? X | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong "It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars. | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. " I dont. I treat everyone the same | |||
"We are viewed as scum. The lowest of the low. Because most couples/women think all men are the same and will shag anything. As soon as one of them has a bad experience with a single guy they target all of the with the same brush. Cannot call me a liar it's on these forums nearly everyday which is a real pity. It's a battle a guy like me can't win so I just don't bother now.Just get tired of that same brush taring Me with someone else's experiences. I dont. I treat everyone the same" I don't either, the people who don't want to go on a night with single men there, have that choice. Personally I go to the clubs to meet new friends, including single men. If one of them doesn't know how to behave it's his loss, I don't feel he makes any sweeping change to the general male consensus. | |||
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"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Well I disagree I love the atmosphere and the chats and the dancing in the club. I am not one to stand in the corner with a drink I try to get out there. Dress smart smell nice and smile Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong " | |||
"Wow!! Can’t believe what I’ve read in this forum! OP I strongly recommend you try a few clubs. There is such a good energy at the clubs I’ve been to & it’s sexy socialising in that environment. Expectation of sex is a funny thing... I personally go with the attitude that it’s innmy hands to interact, make an impression & make it happen. The odds are stacked against you as a single male, but I’ve never been a club & not seen single guys playing. Just be yourself, get to know people, be cheeky! Make an effort with the male half of couples!! & there’s always other single males that you can get talkin to to ease your nerves when you first get there I’m sure you’ll never look back if you give it a try " THIS!! | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars."I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. "I was referring to men who say it. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it."How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. | |||
"I've always wanted to venture out and try a few of the club's but dread going on my own as a single male. Is this frowned upon? and I assume as a single male do club's have restrictions or time limits? I feel totally lost any advice?? Cheers frog "For the most part, we're the bottom of the barrel but hey how is that any different from most of the shit guys have to deal in reality anyway. You'll be fine, you're a man. | |||
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"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. "male intuition | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition"Needs a retune then I think | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition
Needs a retune then I think "Been around a lot of men through sports and work backgrounds I know how a lot think. They say it so it is another way in to get laid just like these male feminist's. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition
Needs a retune then I think Been around a lot of men through sports and work backgrounds I know how a lot think. They say it so it is another way in to get laid just like these male feminist's."I’ve worked in male dominated industries all my life and still don’t presume I know what anyone is thinking 100% of the time. No one does. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition
Needs a retune then I think Been around a lot of men through sports and work backgrounds I know how a lot think. They say it so it is another way in to get laid just like these male feminist's.
I’ve worked in male dominated industries all my life and still don’t presume I know what anyone is thinking 100% of the time. No one does. "Obviously some exceptions, that guy the other night probably wanted you. These types tend to announce it though as in to make themselves look good. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition
Needs a retune then I think Been around a lot of men through sports and work backgrounds I know how a lot think. They say it so it is another way in to get laid just like these male feminist's.
I’ve worked in male dominated industries all my life and still don’t presume I know what anyone is thinking 100% of the time. No one does. Obviously some exceptions, that guy the other night probably wanted you. These types tend to announce it though as in to make themselves look good."I’m not going to argue you’d and round in circles. My point is, no one can just generalise, as you have earlier, and say all X who say Y are lying. You have no idea. In many cases you’ll be right, in others you’ll be wrong. No one knows anyone’s motivations for anything. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. I was referring to men who say it.
How do you know? I attended an event recently with a single male who had no intention of playing and didn’t. He met up with friends, had a chat, a laugh and a dance then went home. male intuition
Needs a retune then I think Been around a lot of men through sports and work backgrounds I know how a lot think. They say it so it is another way in to get laid just like these male feminist's.
I’ve worked in male dominated industries all my life and still don’t presume I know what anyone is thinking 100% of the time. No one does. Obviously some exceptions, that guy the other night probably wanted you. These types tend to announce it though as in to make themselves look good.
I’m not going to argue you’d and round in circles. My point is, no one can just generalise, as you have earlier, and say all X who say Y are lying. You have no idea. In many cases you’ll be right, in others you’ll be wrong. No one knows anyone’s motivations for anything. "OK I'll say most of them next time. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me. "Alright, let me just try to explain what I was getting at in my comments. How much do you pay to enter a swingers club on any average night you go? Is it generally much higher or about the same as say you attending a social event organised at a bar/club/pub that you see so much on Fab here for the different regions and cities? Now try to think of it in the single man's shoes. How much they pay for entry. Fair dos if they can afford it, that's not the point here. The point is that it is basic human nature that we want value for what we've put out in effort or paid up for in money. And maybe I can't speak for other men, but personally for me, I'm not gonna be paying stupid amounts for entry prices into swinger clubs and just have a 100% "socialise only and see what happens" attitude. I know what I'm out for, which is kinky threesome fun or group sex fun or whatever sexy fun catches my boat in a swinger club. Socialising might be all well and good, which I'm perfectly capable of doing, but that's not my endgame. How many people who are into swinging or attend swingers clubs are just utter fantasists or timewasters who don't have the bottle to get down and dirty and sexy when in a place that overtly facilitates and provides for an environment to do such things? As I said in my earliest comment on here, people in general I feel in my opinion who pay through the nose because "reasons" (read: swinging gender imbalances) to attend swingers clubs without a clear intention or endgame that involves actually getting some action and fun going on are just financial mugs for the clubs to fleece off. And I'm not up for that, and I won't stand for that. Why is it someone like me who knows what I want and says it as clearly as I did in my comments get flak thrown up against my viewpoint? It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. I'm calculative, I'm direct, I don't like to waste time or energy or money throwing all three at an avenue of swinging that is nothing but diminishing returns for my demographic in a swinger club. I haven't had a single club visit prove my thoughts wrong. Maybe I'm not cut out for clubs. I'd freely admit that. But my points are no less valid for that. Single men need to know the full and unvarnished truth about going alone to swinger clubs with no company there or backup plan for other meets, and because we pay inflated prices to enter these clubs in the first place the leeway we can give ourselves mentally to just approach swinger clubs with the same amount of flippancy couples and single women do in terms of "just going to socialise and have fun" is far lower. I hope you understood what I am driving at. | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me.
Alright, let me just try to explain what I was getting at in my comments.
How much do you pay to enter a swingers club on any average night you go? Is it generally much higher or about the same as say you attending a social event organised at a bar/club/pub that you see so much on Fab here for the different regions and cities?
Now try to think of it in the single man's shoes. How much they pay for entry. Fair dos if they can afford it, that's not the point here. The point is that it is basic human nature that we want value for what we've put out in effort or paid up for in money. And maybe I can't speak for other men, but personally for me, I'm not gonna be paying stupid amounts for entry prices into swinger clubs and just have a 100% "socialise only and see what happens" attitude. I know what I'm out for, which is kinky threesome fun or group sex fun or whatever sexy fun catches my boat in a swinger club. Socialising might be all well and good, which I'm perfectly capable of doing, but that's not my endgame. How many people who are into swinging or attend swingers clubs are just utter fantasists or timewasters who don't have the bottle to get down and dirty and sexy when in a place that overtly facilitates and provides for an environment to do such things? As I said in my earliest comment on here, people in general I feel in my opinion who pay through the nose because "reasons" (read: swinging gender imbalances) to attend swingers clubs without a clear intention or endgame that involves actually getting some action and fun going on are just financial mugs for the clubs to fleece off. And I'm not up for that, and I won't stand for that.
Why is it someone like me who knows what I want and says it as clearly as I did in my comments get flak thrown up against my viewpoint? It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. I'm calculative, I'm direct, I don't like to waste time or energy or money throwing all three at an avenue of swinging that is nothing but diminishing returns for my demographic in a swinger club. I haven't had a single club visit prove my thoughts wrong. Maybe I'm not cut out for clubs. I'd freely admit that. But my points are no less valid for that. Single men need to know the full and unvarnished truth about going alone to swinger clubs with no company there or backup plan for other meets, and because we pay inflated prices to enter these clubs in the first place the leeway we can give ourselves mentally to just approach swinger clubs with the same amount of flippancy couples and single women do in terms of "just going to socialise and have fun" is far lower.
I hope you understood what I am driving at. " | |||
"I go to a club most Fridays, see plenty of respectful, non pushy guys having plenty of fun and frequently don’t play myself if no one takes my fancy. But I still have a good night chatting with friends and chilling in the jacuzzi. Clearly, according to some, I’m doing this wrong. Why wrong? According to some posters in this thread, going for social purposes and not EXPECTING play is wrong It's not wrong, it just isn't true. They might not expect sex but they will be trying and if they say they just go for the social they are liars.
I love how people think they can read the minds of other people. So when I’ve gone when I’m on and have no desire whatsoever to play and 100% won’t be, I just want to socialise, where does that put me? And I know other female friends who’ve been in the same situation so it’s not just me.
Alright, let me just try to explain what I was getting at in my comments.
How much do you pay to enter a swingers club on any average night you go? Is it generally much higher or about the same as say you attending a social event organised at a bar/club/pub that you see so much on Fab here for the different regions and cities?
Now try to think of it in the single man's shoes. How much they pay for entry. Fair dos if they can afford it, that's not the point here. The point is that it is basic human nature that we want value for what we've put out in effort or paid up for in money. And maybe I can't speak for other men, but personally for me, I'm not gonna be paying stupid amounts for entry prices into swinger clubs and just have a 100% "socialise only and see what happens" attitude. I know what I'm out for, which is kinky threesome fun or group sex fun or whatever sexy fun catches my boat in a swinger club. Socialising might be all well and good, which I'm perfectly capable of doing, but that's not my endgame. How many people who are into swinging or attend swingers clubs are just utter fantasists or timewasters who don't have the bottle to get down and dirty and sexy when in a place that overtly facilitates and provides for an environment to do such things? As I said in my earliest comment on here, people in general I feel in my opinion who pay through the nose because "reasons" (read: swinging gender imbalances) to attend swingers clubs without a clear intention or endgame that involves actually getting some action and fun going on are just financial mugs for the clubs to fleece off. And I'm not up for that, and I won't stand for that.
Why is it someone like me who knows what I want and says it as clearly as I did in my comments get flak thrown up against my viewpoint? It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. I'm calculative, I'm direct, I don't like to waste time or energy or money throwing all three at an avenue of swinging that is nothing but diminishing returns for my demographic in a swinger club. I haven't had a single club visit prove my thoughts wrong. Maybe I'm not cut out for clubs. I'd freely admit that. But my points are no less valid for that. Single men need to know the full and unvarnished truth about going alone to swinger clubs with no company there or backup plan for other meets, and because we pay inflated prices to enter these clubs in the first place the leeway we can give ourselves mentally to just approach swinger clubs with the same amount of flippancy couples and single women do in terms of "just going to socialise and have fun" is far lower.
I hope you understood what I am driving at. "Look , you make valid points. But you have to understand your audience... This is the forums... Having a open mind and having a debate are not welcomed here.... You must fall inline and follow the lemmings off the cliff.... The people that refuse to see your point are the same people..... That would go to a restaurant not expecting great food , but would be happy if the food was great ....then if the food was terrible, they would be happy to sit around admiring the decor and getting free water.... | |||
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" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! " Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. | |||
"We went to a daytime event yesterday - Milf Mon at the Townhouse. It was v busy with the ratio of men:women being about 3:1. Price wise ladies were free - couples paid £10 as did single men (I think). All the men I encountered were polite and respectful. They weren't ripped off, some played, some didn't, but I think everyone had a good day. We need more people like these in clubs, not the whining fellas who frankly couldn't pull in a brothel. Guys if you dont like/agree with clubs then please stay away. You won't be missed. But if you are respectful,fun and openminded then come and see what you are missing. You won't look back!" Trying to insult guys by saying they can't pull in a brothel is a joke. If you're in one, one doesn't pull when one outright buys! If you're gonna bandy insults like this around and deride others as being whiny because they say stuff you don't agree with or don't like to hear, it says more about you than it does about whoever you're trying to insult. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. " You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. | |||
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" How much do you pay to enter a swingers club on any average night you go? Is it generally much higher or about the same as say you attending a social event organised at a bar/club/pub that you see so much on Fab here for the different regions and cities? Now try to think of it in the single man's shoes. The point is that it is basic human nature that we want value for what we've put out in effort or paid up for in money. And maybe I can't speak for other men, but personally for me, I'm not gonna be paying stupid amounts for entry prices into swinger clubs and just have a 100% "socialise only and see what happens" attitude. I know what I'm out for, which is kinky threesome fun or group sex fun. How many people who are into swinging or attend swingers clubs are just utter fantasists or timewasters who don't have the bottle to get down and dirty and sexy when in a place that overtly facilitates and provides for an environment to do such things? It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. " What a weird perception you have of club's. So single ladies go to club's and never get down n dirty. Do you think they all go to chat and never get involved. I am happy to say most single ladies most definitely do have fun, but not because we are considering what the poor single guy stood in the corner wants, but because she finds a connection with someone that she has chatted to and had a laugh with and feels relaxed with. Hence the need to socialise first. Men might well want to fuck as they have physical needs, for me personally, I need to feel some emotional connection on some level before I consider stripping off and getting intimate. And regarding the cost of entry. My local club in Stoke it's £30 entry for single guys. Take your own alcohol , Aldi do 4 cans for under a fiver. Non alcoholic drinks only £1.50 a go. I am sure most guys on a night out will easily spend that much just drinking in a pub. So I think 6 hours meeting sexy people and having chance to get to know people, watch the action, free boogie in the disco and possibly get involved in some play , is a better evening than 3 hours down the pub. But if you only go with the intention of finding a kinky threesone, then stay at home and send out lots and lots of messages . It's a choice people make. If club's were so bad for single men , why do so many go and have a great time and keep going bad. If success rates were so low, surely no single men would go to club's would they ??? | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. " I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. " Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. " Actually you are, you're saying that single women and couples that attend clubs want to emasculate men etc. You're judging everyone who attends clubs | |||
" How much do you pay to enter a swingers club on any average night you go? Is it generally much higher or about the same as say you attending a social event organised at a bar/club/pub that you see so much on Fab here for the different regions and cities? Now try to think of it in the single man's shoes. The point is that it is basic human nature that we want value for what we've put out in effort or paid up for in money. And maybe I can't speak for other men, but personally for me, I'm not gonna be paying stupid amounts for entry prices into swinger clubs and just have a 100% "socialise only and see what happens" attitude. I know what I'm out for, which is kinky threesome fun or group sex fun. How many people who are into swinging or attend swingers clubs are just utter fantasists or timewasters who don't have the bottle to get down and dirty and sexy when in a place that overtly facilitates and provides for an environment to do such things? It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. What a weird perception you have of club's. So single ladies go to club's and never get down n dirty. Do you think they all go to chat and never get involved. I am happy to say most single ladies most definitely do have fun, but not because we are considering what the poor single guy stood in the corner wants, but because she finds a connection with someone that she has chatted to and had a laugh with and feels relaxed with. Hence the need to socialise first. Men might well want to fuck as they have physical needs, for me personally, I need to feel some emotional connection on some level before I consider stripping off and getting intimate. And regarding the cost of entry. My local club in Stoke it's £30 entry for single guys. Take your own alcohol , Aldi do 4 cans for under a fiver. Non alcoholic drinks only £1.50 a go. I am sure most guys on a night out will easily spend that much just drinking in a pub. So I think 6 hours meeting sexy people and having chance to get to know people, watch the action, free boogie in the disco and possibly get involved in some play , is a better evening than 3 hours down the pub. But if you only go with the intention of finding a kinky threesone, then stay at home and send out lots and lots of messages . It's a choice people make. If club's were so bad for single men , why do so many go and have a great time and keep going bad. If success rates were so low, surely no single men would go to club's would they ??? " Given the sheer size of the single male population on Fab, as well as how swinger clubs have to sometimes restrict single male membership numbers, it's fairly clear that they won't have a shortage of single men going through their doors to try their luck. And some get lucky, most won't. Again, definition of luck here is subjective. I rest my case. Let's just all agree to disagree? Clearly I've more than ruffled some feathers here and I'm tired of having to go over and over again about my point. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. Actually you are, you're saying that single women and couples that attend clubs want to emasculate men etc. You're judging everyone who attends clubs "I said SOME. Not ALL. Don't go round putting words in my mouth now. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. Actually you are, you're saying that single women and couples that attend clubs want to emasculate men etc. You're judging everyone who attends clubs
I said SOME. Not ALL. Don't go round putting words in my mouth now. "You're still judging those people. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. Actually you are, you're saying that single women and couples that attend clubs want to emasculate men etc. You're judging everyone who attends clubs
I said SOME. Not ALL. Don't go round putting words in my mouth now.
You're still judging those people. "Oh come now, pot kettle black. You just went off on judging me earlier in your comments, now you're turning round and accusing me of doing that? I'm just going to disengage from engaging you on here because this is going nowhere. And you're not deserving of me putting my account on the line to get a forum timeout ban. | |||
"We went to a daytime event yesterday - Milf Mon at the Townhouse. It was v busy with the ratio of men:women being about 3:1. Price wise ladies were free - couples paid £10 as did single men (I think). All the men I encountered were polite and respectful. They weren't ripped off, some played, some didn't, but I think everyone had a good day. We need more people like these in clubs, not the whining fellas who frankly couldn't pull in a brothel. Guys if you dont like/agree with clubs then please stay away. You won't be missed. But if you are respectful,fun and openminded then come and see what you are missing. You won't look back! Trying to insult guys by saying they can't pull in a brothel is a joke. If you're in one, one doesn't pull when one outright buys! If you're gonna bandy insults like this around and deride others as being whiny because they say stuff you don't agree with or don't like to hear, it says more about you than it does about whoever you're trying to insult. " Love how you missed all the positive bits from my post and zoned in on the negative. Carry on doing what makes you happy. We will. See all you sexy people at the next milf mon. | |||
" I've attended clubs with the same attitude you've advocated here before. Didn't save me from the fact that I became the social one at the party which everyone was happy to chat and have a laugh with... until some random guy swooped in with a bigger cock than me and an attitude that screams "FUCK ME NOW" and inside of 15 minutes I see the very same people who had spent the last hour having a laugh and good time with me go up with them for some sexy fun. Try putting yourself in shoes that people like me wear. Or is it because I'm not local and Asian that's why such treatment is acceptable and allowed and somehow the way the game is played? Not a single time have I visited a sex club without feeling under my skin that my presence was a godsend for other single white men there to "big themselves up" around me and exhibit the sort of predatory male behaviour you and so many couples deride from single men in clubs! Everything you've said on this thread makes me believe you actually are the type of man couples and singles don't like in clubs, you're aggressive, entitled and pretty damn rude. Nobody said anything about you being Asian or the size of your dick but you brought it up anyway, instead of blaming clubs and every Tom dick and Harry that attends them, take a long hard look at your attitude. You met me? No you haven't. If I'm aggressive, entitled and rude, then please tell me how someone like me could rack up the sort of verifications I had from a year earlier or more. I'm not a new account, I've got verifications to back me up. Unless you think I bribed all the people that wrote them about me to write nice stuff. Carry on being judgemental. No skin off my back. I'm judging you based on your own comments and attitude on this thread. Classic example of being shallow. I'm not judging anyone here by the comments they're making am I? You're the one doing that, don't expect others to stoop to your level. Actually you are, you're saying that single women and couples that attend clubs want to emasculate men etc. You're judging everyone who attends clubs
I said SOME. Not ALL. Don't go round putting words in my mouth now.
You're still judging those people.
Oh come now, pot kettle black. You just went off on judging me earlier in your comments, now you're turning round and accusing me of doing that?
I'm just going to disengage from engaging you on here because this is going nowhere. And you're not deserving of me putting my account on the line to get a forum timeout ban. "That's my point, you accused me of judging you but you've been judging people all through the thread. So yeah, pot kettle, right back at ya. | |||
"It seems to me many couple and female swingers won't be content until they utterly emasculate single men going to swinger clubs into just a pure "social" or "fluffer" role, and be little more than on-demand human sex toys for their own whims and fancies with zero consideration about what single men actually also do want to get out of attending swinger clubs. I'm calculative, I'm direct, I don't like to waste time or energy or money throwing all three at an avenue of swinging that is nothing but diminishing returns for my demographic in a swinger club. I haven't had a single club visit prove my thoughts wrong. Maybe I'm not cut out for clubs. I'd freely admit that. But my points are no less valid for that. Single men need to know the full and unvarnished truth about going alone to swinger clubs with no company there or backup plan for other meets, and because we pay inflated prices to enter these clubs in the first place the leeway we can give ourselves mentally to just approach swinger clubs with the same amount of flippancy couples and single women do in terms of "just going to socialise and have fun" is far lower. I hope you understood what I am driving at. " All anyone is suggesting is that single men do what they themselves do - turn up to enjoy their night. Of course most of us hope, on most visits, that we get to play. Or make contacts that later turn into play meets. But there is a level of expectation amongst some people - and I'm including women and couples in that - that they get to do whatever they want, because they want. I want to touch, I touch. I want to play, I play - stuff whatever anyone else thinks. All anyone is trying to say is, don't go wading in invading space, touching without asking etc. Be social, chat, get to know people a little so that they are more inclined to play - whether then or later. This is advice I've seen given to couples and single women on many an occasion but somehow when it's given to guys, it's seen by some as unfair. No one has once suggested that men should stand there waiting to do anyone's bidding. But make of it what you will. | |||
"We went to a daytime event yesterday - Milf Mon at the Townhouse. It was v busy with the ratio of men:women being about 3:1. Price wise ladies were free - couples paid £10 as did single men (I think). All the men I encountered were polite and respectful. They weren't ripped off, some played, some didn't, but I think everyone had a good day. We need more people like these in clubs, not the whining fellas who frankly couldn't pull in a brothel. Guys if you dont like/agree with clubs then please stay away. You won't be missed. But if you are respectful,fun and openminded then come and see what you are missing. You won't look back!" As much as I would like to attend a MM, I really cannot get down there on a Monday. It's a 210 mile round trip for me (I've been to TH twice now), meaning at least 4 hours on the road, assuming the traffic is kind. If I was more local, I would be happy to pay a tenner and pop in for an hour or so, what's the worst that could happen? Someone actually takes my club cherry? | |||
"I did try one time on spur of the moment with some courage while in Blackpool it was latish about 11-30 and guy on door said to many people in i was alone and being a tv cd i had to trudge back to hotel embarrassed i not saying we should have preference but i was alone and didnt seem full to me i haven't been to a club since .nor to Blackpool again after that You'll enjoy Club Sx" | |||
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