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"So I have been told that secrets is a great place to start for a first party. So my partner rang them to see if we could get in, they were please to say yes to a FF couple, informed us of time etc, then inform us that the dress code for females is a dress, we explained that one of us is not comfortable in dresses and has never been but will wear a fitted female suit. This was knocked back and we were then informed we could not attend unless both in dresses. I find this sexist and extreamly unbelievable, I understand a dress code but to only allow women to were a dress is extrwamly unfair. A FF couple puttting themselfs out there to be knocked back because of a dress. "Wow!! I've been thinking about going but if I have to wear a dress not sure I want to now | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself!" Masquerade as a bloke??? Are you serious. Ffs this antiquated, Victorian view really can't still exist today can it? Unbelievable
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself!" Wow. Just wow. | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself!" Obviously not all the swing scene has caught up with the 21st century. I shall certainly recommend people stay away from here. | |||
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"It’s a place I’ve wanted to go for a while now. " And you would be very welcome providing you come along with a female partner (in a dress). | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses." Do you do all your own PR ?  | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. Do you do all your own PR ? "I certainly do! There's no such thing as bad publicity and you have to stand up for your principles against these lily -livered conformist sheep who are too spineless to have a sensible thought in their heads. | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. Do you do all your own PR ? I certainly do! There's no such thing as bad publicity and you have to stand up for your principles against these lily -livered conformist sheep who are too spineless to have a sensible thought in their heads. "Your place, your rules, I guess.  | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Obviously not all the swing scene has caught up with the 21st century. I shall certainly recommend people stay away from here. " I’m sure they’re shitting thereselves. | |||
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"Jesus christ" Don't bring him into it, you'll have the muslims after you | |||
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"Secrets is a unique place. Coming from the south West to have a club like this that’s not the other side of the U.K. is amazing. I live in North Devon and to get to any decent clubs I’d be heading to the midlands. Secrets is classy and I’ve had an amazing time there in the past. I do hope they still have the wooden cross. I’ve never been harassed here and it’s not sleazy like some clubs. " The venue can be as classy as it wants, clearly the owners arent | |||
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"Shocking attitude " we have no intention of bowing to the whim of an occasional oddity". Calling a woman who chooses to wear trousers an oddity ?" No, I'm calling a woman who chooses to dress as a man and act in a manly way an oddity as defined by the Oxford English dictionary - a peculiar trait. I think you'll find I'm right. | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. Do you do all your own PR ?
I certainly do! There's no such thing as bad publicity "I wonder if Rick from donkey dicks thought that | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. Do you do all your own PR ?
I certainly do! There's no such thing as bad publicity
I wonder if Rick from donkey dicks thought that "I don't think Rick from Donkey Dicks ever harnessed the ability of thought! | |||
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"Secrets is a unique place. Coming from the south West to have a club like this that’s not the other side of the U.K. is amazing. I live in North Devon and to get to any decent clubs I’d be heading to the midlands. Secrets is classy and I’ve had an amazing time there in the past. I do hope they still have the wooden cross. I’ve never been harassed here and it’s not sleazy like some clubs. The venue can be as classy as it wants, clearly the owners arent" Ouch! Another saucer of cream? | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself!" Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too? | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too?" Yes, it's what we choose the dress code to be. The same as we choose only to invite mixed sex couples and not invite single guys and crossdressers. You have to have rules, it's what made this country great, if you don't have rules everything turns to shit - did I really have to explain that or are you just winding me up? | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too?Yes, it's what we choose the dress code to be. The same as we choose only to invite mixed sex couples and not invite single guys and crossdressers. You have to have rules, it's what made this country great, if you don't have rules everything turns to shit - did I really have to explain that or are you just winding me up? "No, I'm genuinely curious why it's a prerequisite that women dress sexy. | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses." It's like civilisation moved on and you got left behind. Are women attending your nights expected to do the washing up and cleaning? Yours is the one place that we really wanted to visit when opportunity knocked. Can you put us on your barred list now please. | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too?Yes, it's what we choose the dress code to be. The same as we choose only to invite mixed sex couples and not invite single guys and crossdressers. You have to have rules, it's what made this country great, if you don't have rules everything turns to shit - did I really have to explain that or are you just winding me up?
No, I'm genuinely curious why it's a prerequisite that women dress sexy.
"I'm sorry, I think you'll find that I've just answered that. Out of interest would you like to tell me why you have posted pictures on your profile dressed as you are? Why haven't you posted pictures of yourself in smart casual dress (and maybe a confy pair of slippers) or a shabby old coat or a scruffy pair of dungarees?...As I thought you are winding me up aren't you!...Nice pictures by the way | |||
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"Well if a TV is a guy masquerading as a woman, and there can be no argument to that, then how can a woman acting like a bloke and wearing male clothes be considered anything other than a woman masquerading as a man? It's called equality! It's not a Victorian attitude, it's a plain and simple fact and if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. It's like civilisation moved on and you got left behind. Are women attending your nights expected to do the washing up and cleaning? Yours is the one place that we really wanted to visit when opportunity knocked. Can you put us on your barred list now please." With pleasure | |||
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"We are interested to find out who the host's are, I think I'll buy a ticket for their next party.. So much for the bad publicity.. " Thanks for the vote of confidence, so many private messages of support, nice toi see someone sticking their head above the parapet...ticket in the post. | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too?Yes, it's what we choose the dress code to be. The same as we choose only to invite mixed sex couples and not invite single guys and crossdressers. You have to have rules, it's what made this country great, if you don't have rules everything turns to shit - did I really have to explain that or are you just winding me up?
No, I'm genuinely curious why it's a prerequisite that women dress sexy.
I'm sorry, I think you'll find that I've just answered that. Out of interest would you like to tell me why you have posted pictures on your profile dressed as you are? Why haven't you posted pictures of yourself in smart casual dress (and maybe a confy pair of slippers) or a shabby old coat or a scruffy pair of dungarees?...As I thought you are winding me up aren't you!...Nice pictures by the way "I wasn't asking again. I was answering you. You asked if I was winding you up. Clearly you didn't understand the original question. | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself! Is there a reason why the code for women can't be smart/casual too?Yes, it's what we choose the dress code to be. The same as we choose only to invite mixed sex couples and not invite single guys and crossdressers. You have to have rules, it's what made this country great, if you don't have rules everything turns to shit - did I really have to explain that or are you just winding me up? "But you do invite single guys, as anyone who has attended one of your parties will have witnessed. At one of your new years eve after paries you were asking for a 'tranny' to entertain you & your guests. | |||
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"We are interested to find out who the host's are, I think I'll buy a ticket for their next party.. So much for the bad publicity.. Thanks for the vote of confidence, so many private messages of support, nice toi see someone sticking their head above the parapet...ticket in the post. "It's fine, everyone has preferences, I'll tell the wife she can't wear her jeans.. No issues at all.. | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody! "Blissfully away with the fairies... | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody! "You really do have an awful attitude. Makes me cringe that I’m from Devon also. | |||
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"OP Try Decs instead.... no judgements there Mrs P x " Good call Mrs P  | |||
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" if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses." We're not talking about regulating what people say we're talking about actual discrimination like refusing services to people. And let's be clear, you only get away with it because you are a private member's club , just as golf clubs got away with not admitting women members. Dress codes at swing clubs are there to create a sexy atmosphere, not an atmosphere of the 1950s ( though I'd totally theme one of my parties as 1950s, though I'd be being ironic) "...you'll have the muslims after you "I'm old enough to remember signs saying 'no Blacks, no gays and no jews'. I guess the modern equivalent is 'no Muslims, no TVs and no women wearing trousers' | |||
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"It’s a shame people are falling out . The OP is upset and so is the secrets team . Can see both sides of this. " None of the insults they've been dishing out on this thread point to them being even remotely upset. In fact they were celebrating how many bookings they have had on the back of this. They have proved the type of people they are if it was in any doubt.  | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody! "Although - just maybe - there have been more than four others observing this thread and the kind of friendly, broad-minded professionalism on display, quietly making their own minds up about whether it’s the vibe that makes for a welcoming night out... | |||
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"It’s a shame people are falling out . The OP is upset and so is the secrets team . Can see both sides of this. None of the insults they've been dishing out on this thread point to them being even remotely upset. In fact they were celebrating how many bookings they have had on the back of this. They have proved the type of people they are if it was in any doubt. " | |||
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" if the political correctness police don't like it they can go and blow it up their militant arses. We're not talking about regulating what people say we're talking about actual discrimination like refusing services to people. And let's be clear, you only get away with it because you are a private member's club , just as golf clubs got away with not admitting women members. Dress codes at swing clubs are there to create a sexy atmosphere, not an atmosphere of the 1950s ( though I'd totally theme one of my parties as 1950s, though I'd be being ironic) ...you'll have the muslims after you
I'm old enough to remember signs saying 'no Blacks, no gays and no jews'. I guess the modern equivalent is 'no Muslims, no TVs and no women wearing trousers' "And that is shocking!! | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody!
Although - just maybe - there have been more than four others observing this thread and the kind of friendly, broad-minded professionalism on display, quietly making their own minds up about whether it’s the vibe that makes for a welcoming night out..."I was thinking the same. | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody!
Although - just maybe - there have been more than four others observing this thread and the kind of friendly, broad-minded professionalism on display, quietly making their own minds up about whether it’s the vibe that makes for a welcoming night out...
I was thinking the same. "Ditto ^^ I don't think I have ever read anything more shocking than the clubs response to the Op on here ever 
4 bookings as a result of this thread and probably 10s of people deciding to avoid at all costs! | |||
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"Thanks for everyones input, it's made my night! Signing off now and won't be looking at this thread again. Oh, someone earlier said there was something called bad publicity.... To that person let me tell you that we've this evening received four bookings as a result of our stand on this point. So as the man in the orthaepedic shoes was told, you stand corrected. Happy fabbing everybody!
Although - just maybe - there have been more than four others observing this thread and the kind of friendly, broad-minded professionalism on display, quietly making their own minds up about whether it’s the vibe that makes for a welcoming night out...
I was thinking the same.
Ditto ^^
I don't think I have ever read anything more shocking than the clubs response to the Op on here ever
4 bookings as a result of this thread and probably 10s of people deciding to avoid at all costs!"I'd take the 4 bookings as a result of the thread with a large pinch of salt. | |||
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I did however want to quickly clarify that it was made clear that we are an FF couple and that one of us loves getting dressed up into a hot dress and high heels were as other although doesn't like wearing dresses does get her hot tight arse into the most sexy fitted womans suits and spend more time than me in the bathroom. In no way is she masquerading as a 'man' her boobs are just to fucking great for that. I simply said she wouldn't be wearing a dress.
I'm not going to lie it really put me off attending another party until swingers quay got in contact and had an amazing chat with us. Made us feel welcome AS WE ARE in what ever made us feel sexy and even said they were looking forward to seeing us so thank you to all who have messaged with reccomendations.
I am disappointed with secrets being stuck behind the times I was told it would be a great place to start and have fun. Even been aprouched by people asking us to join them there as they find us entriging and want to explore more. My partner turns many heads and her confidence certainly turns many on. It definitely worked on me who had never even thought of opening my world to a woman.
So secrets ... I'm pleased you got 4 tickets sold and I hope you continue to enjoy your evenings however ladies and gentlemen if you ever want to come along to the 21st century we'll be heading to swinger quay and hopefully decs and as many other sexy parties who would like to invite us along.
We have lots of exploring to do and we can't wait to get started *kisses* | |||
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"Thank you to all who have commented and it's reasured us that thid scene is not just looking for stereo typical women to do there housework in stockings and suspenders...although I wouldn't be complaining one bit
I did however want to quickly clarify that it was made clear that we are an FF couple and that one of us loves getting dressed up into a hot dress and high heels were as other although doesn't like wearing dresses does get her hot tight arse into the most sexy fitted womans suits and spend more time than me in the bathroom. In no way is she masquerading as a 'man' her boobs are just to fucking great for that. I simply said she wouldn't be wearing a dress.
I'm not going to lie it really put me off attending another party until swingers quay got in contact and had an amazing chat with us. Made us feel welcome AS WE ARE in what ever made us feel sexy and even said they were looking forward to seeing us so thank you to all who have messaged with reccomendations.
I am disappointed with secrets being stuck behind the times I was told it would be a great place to start and have fun. Even been aprouched by people asking us to join them there as they find us entriging and want to explore more. My partner turns many heads and her confidence certainly turns many on. It definitely worked on me who had never even thought of opening my world to a woman.
So secrets ... I'm pleased you got 4 tickets sold and I hope you continue to enjoy your evenings however ladies and gentlemen if you ever want to come along to the 21st century we'll be heading to swinger quay and hopefully decs and as many other sexy parties who would like to invite us along.
We have lots of exploring to do and we can't wait to get started *kisses* "Love this...a perfect response xx | |||
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"Our dress code is straightforward, for guys it's smart casual and for the girls it's sexy. I was told that this person wanted to turn up in a male type suit as she prefers to dress and act in a masculine way. We do not accept single males or crossdressers of either sex which is one of the reasons our parties are so succesful as that perfectly suits the mixed sex couples who come to our parties and we have no intention of bowing to the whim of the occasional oddity. As another poster put it - our party, our rules. If you want to masquerade as a bloke there are plenty of places that will have you but we're not one of them so get over yourself!" Wow! This reply is gross! Calling someone an oddity?! ‘Girls must dress sexy’? I guess that means every Ann summers stereotype only... I shall certainly avoid your place... yikes! | |||
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"Thank you to all who have commented and it's reasured us that thid scene is not just looking for stereo typical women to do there housework in stockings and suspenders...although I wouldn't be complaining one bit
I did however want to quickly clarify that it was made clear that we are an FF couple and that one of us loves getting dressed up into a hot dress and high heels were as other although doesn't like wearing dresses does get her hot tight arse into the most sexy fitted womans suits and spend more time than me in the bathroom. In no way is she masquerading as a 'man' her boobs are just to fucking great for that. I simply said she wouldn't be wearing a dress.
I'm not going to lie it really put me off attending another party until swingers quay got in contact and had an amazing chat with us. Made us feel welcome AS WE ARE in what ever made us feel sexy and even said they were looking forward to seeing us so thank you to all who have messaged with reccomendations.
I am disappointed with secrets being stuck behind the times I was told it would be a great place to start and have fun. Even been aprouched by people asking us to join them there as they find us entriging and want to explore more. My partner turns many heads and her confidence certainly turns many on. It definitely worked on me who had never even thought of opening my world to a woman.
So secrets ... I'm pleased you got 4 tickets sold and I hope you continue to enjoy your evenings however ladies and gentlemen if you ever want to come along to the 21st century we'll be heading to swinger quay and hopefully decs and as many other sexy parties who would like to invite us along.
We have lots of exploring to do and we can't wait to get started *kisses* "I wish you both all the luck in the world, I can thoroughly recommend Dec's as a great club to go to, so very welcoming, even to so called oddities. Thank you for bringing the situation to people's attention x | |||
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"I'm not going to lie it really put me off attending another party until swingers quay got in contact and had an amazing chat with us. Made us feel welcome AS WE ARE in what ever made us feel sexy and even said they were looking forward to seeing us so thank you to all who have messaged with reccomendations. " I hope you have a great time at Steamer quay, I love the venuw and maybe I'll see you both there sometime. Chris x | |||
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"Thank you to all who have commented and it's reasured us that thid scene is not just looking for stereo typical women to do there housework in stockings and suspenders...although I wouldn't be complaining one bit
I did however want to quickly clarify that it was made clear that we are an FF couple and that one of us loves getting dressed up into a hot dress and high heels were as other although doesn't like wearing dresses does get her hot tight arse into the most sexy fitted womans suits and spend more time than me in the bathroom. In no way is she masquerading as a 'man' her boobs are just to fucking great for that. I simply said she wouldn't be wearing a dress.
I'm not going to lie it really put me off attending another party until swingers quay got in contact and had an amazing chat with us. Made us feel welcome AS WE ARE in what ever made us feel sexy and even said they were looking forward to seeing us so thank you to all who have messaged with reccomendations.
I am disappointed with secrets being stuck behind the times I was told it would be a great place to start and have fun. Even been aprouched by people asking us to join them there as they find us entriging and want to explore more. My partner turns many heads and her confidence certainly turns many on. It definitely worked on me who had never even thought of opening my world to a woman.
So secrets ... I'm pleased you got 4 tickets sold and I hope you continue to enjoy your evenings however ladies and gentlemen if you ever want to come along to the 21st century we'll be heading to swinger quay and hopefully decs and as many other sexy parties who would like to invite us along.
We have lots of exploring to do and we can't wait to get started *kisses* "Excellent outcome from this whole sorry episode. Looks like you dodged a bullet by virtue of the owners obnoxiousness and you have our gratitude for exposing it. Have a ball at Steamers Quay! | |||
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