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Why are single men chastised for attending club's?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

I've been in the scene for over 2 years and I'm fortunate enough to have regular play mates to attend club's with. Some club's are great and you attend as a couple together, others then still charge you as 2 singles even if you are attending as a couple. (Because your officialy not togethor) kind of the point of being a swinger!

Now I'm pretty open minded but some club's do need to change the way they look at this I have different partners for diferent things however I have to pay for the privilege. Now I know it's business but it's very one sided.

Events are great and some club's simply let you in when you arrive together I'm only venting after a recent event where I have couples membership however attended with one of my play mates so got charged for 2 single entry's. Some club's just don't get it.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

I fully appreciate it's unfair that most clubs don't allow two guys to attend as a couple but there is a risk it would be abused by single guys who want to get in for cheaper or play as a single on nights where it's couples only. It's irritating enough when someone you've never spoken to messages to ask to go to a club with you, clearly just trying to get in when they're not meant to be there or looking for a reduced entry price. You'd have guys who had no intention of playing together at all buddying up just for the entrance.

However, I do feel that there should be a way of allowing bi/gay guys to go together for couples price - just not sure how you'd balance it with the above.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "
exactly it's a very expensive business when abfabs was open I paid £120 for entry on a couples night a couple membership should be whoever pays plus partner irrespective of who that partner is

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I agree, but I've been to club's with female partners who are not my partner but partner for the event

and had to pay for both, makes no sense we walked in played and left as a couple some club's just have it all wrong.

"I fully appreciate it's unfair that most clubs don't allow two guys to attend as a couple but there is a risk it would be abused by single guys who want to get in for cheaper or play as a single on nights where it's couples only. It's irritating enough when someone you've never spoken to messages to ask to go to a club with you, clearly just trying to get in when they're not meant to be there or looking for a reduced entry price. You'd have guys who had no intention of playing together at all buddying up just for the entrance.

However, I do feel that there should be a way of allowing bi/gay guys to go together for couples price - just not sure how you'd balance it with the above. "

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Clubs are aware of ticketing and the men leave the fem at the bar etc and go off so this is to deter them as couples night are that for a reason. Go on a non couples night as plenty of them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges.

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By *agermeisterMan over a year ago

Leeds

What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

If I go to a couple only night and it's full of pretend couples playing as singles then it's not really a couple night. If I wanted a mixed night I would attend one. I think some clubs have it right banning these sort of people.

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By *umber coupleCouple over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc"

Had this on a few occasions, one guy in particular starting swearing when my wife said no thanks. Perhaps a few bad apples have spoilt it for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges. "
fair point

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

"I agree, but I've been to club's with female partners who are not my partner but partner for the event

and had to pay for both, makes no sense we walked in played and left as a couple some club's just have it all wrong.

However, I do feel that there should be a way of allowing bi/gay guys to go together for couples price - just not sure how you'd balance it with the above. "

Most clubs aren't big on people coupling up for the night - it's one thing if you are regular partners plan to play together but people who just do it to get people in are frowned on.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"I agree, but I've been to club's with female partners who are not my partner but partner for the event

and had to pay for both, makes no sense we walked in played and left as a couple some club's just have it all wrong.

However, I do feel that there should be a way of allowing bi/gay guys to go together for couples price - just not sure how you'd balance it with the above.

Most clubs aren't big on people coupling up for the night - it's one thing if you are regular partners plan to play together but people who just do it to get people in are frowned on. "

More that they can cause the most hassle as rows due to not setting boundaries as not a couple. Cbams you have to join as a couple so different partner different membership. We kicked a single out of couples room claiming wife was gone toilet when not true

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clubs are a business.....

If you want to make your voice heard and changes made boycott the clubs you’re complaining about... then hopefully they will change their policy...

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By *appytochatMan over a year ago

Deep in the New Forest

How do the club's police who are a married couple, boyfriend and girlfriend or just two friends with benefits? How do they check?

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"How do the club's police who are a married couple, boyfriend and girlfriend or just two friends with benefits? How do they check? "

Ones where you have to have a membership. You can have couples membership regardless of marriage etc but if found wandering separately on couples night you are warned/asked to leave.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

"How do the club's police who are a married couple, boyfriend and girlfriend or just two friends with benefits? How do they check?

Ones where you have to have a membership. You can have couples membership regardless of marriage etc but if found wandering separately on couples night you are warned/asked to leave."

Exactly this - if you don't produce a card or aren't known to staff then they may insist you join together. I'm guessing that could get expensive and counter the benefit of joining up with a different single woman each time to get in at couples price

Staying that, there are plenty of people who are regulars who go to clubs together and know each other well enough to be very welcome playing as a couple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc"

I so much agree! Thank God there are still some guys who understand chatting is important to establish connection

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unfortunately some single men employ predatory tactics to get laid. In our experiences they are the most dangerous and disrespectful category of people going to the clubs. Any negative stories we hear about trouble in a club always starts with a single men.

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also clubs want couples who are actually couples. Two single people not together, going in the same car should be charged according and not try to cheat the club out of money. If this troubles you find a partner first.

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By *eepster69Man over a year ago

Dumfries

"Unfortunately some single men employ predatory tactics to get laid. In our experiences they are the most dangerous and disrespectful category of people going to the clubs. Any negative stories we hear about trouble in a club always starts with a single men.

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with. "

I've found exactly the opposite to be true. The only times I have seen trouble it has been with couples.

Once with a couple having a single guy to bar any other single guys from entering the darkroom in infusions which is a public area. The lady of the couple created a scene when told from staff to choose a private room if they want a room to thereselves.

The other was a couple who had far too much to drink and started arguing with each other.

For the most part us single guys are pretty well behaved. The cock conga single guys are laughed at by everyone, single guys included.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc"

I’m single and I’d love to go to single men nights. But every time I get guys who touch without asking. Following me around is the least of my concerns. I’m Domme, but it’s a lot to handle and I cannot let my guard down and just relax. It’s so off-putting :/ and since I’m fairly outspoken, confident, if it’s affecting me, I’m certain other single ladies are put off too. I just go on couples nights now. Single males nights, only if I can get a guy or couple to accompany me. Safer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with. "

A single man has the right to go to a swingers club as everyone else, don't see you saying anything about single women attending. If the pricing was far more fair for singles, then they wouldn't try and false couple up to save themselves money.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with.

No-one is saying single men can't go but on a couples night its couples. If too cheap for singles it would be a sausage fest club full of just men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc

I agree theres plenty of creeps to be fair, annoys me cause its lets genuine single men get categorised.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with.

No-one is saying single men can't go but on a couples night its couples. If too cheap for singles it would be a sausage fest club full of just men."
good point on the sausage fest, forgot to think of that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with. "

Please correct me if I’m wrong....

But if a couple has no interest in single men at all....

Why would they go to a club when single men are allowed in and then complain about it?

It’s like being a straight guy and going to a club on bi/gay night... then complaining about all the gay sex going on....

Clubs are in the business of making money... single men are their cash cow

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges. "

Discriminatory charges you mean! I can't believe that a man hasn't taken a club to court for their practices under The Equality Act. Or a council turn down a license because of it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "

I've found clubs very cliquey! You try to strike a conversation and they snub you,

Its worse than going to a strange pub, where there are no perceived expectations.

They just assume your trying it on and ignore you.

On some nights, the only ones that do speak, are other single men and the staff

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

Are you telling me that no lawyer or barrister cas ever been to a club?

The reason I ask this question is this. IS THIS LEGAL? Surely one of them must have asked this question

I understand group tickets having a discount and balancing out the ratios men/women/members/non members etc, but charging more money just for the privilege of owning a penis. Women threw themselves under the kings horse so they could vote. Equality cuts both ways.

We single blokes need a fair crack at the whip...and paddles pinwheel.

I'm sure that one of you lovely FABer's are going to tell me who charges a flat rate no matter who you are. So sing their praises from the roof tops and hopefully, they'll become the norm.

Phew.

The cost was averaged out, I could then go more than once a month.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?"

I didn't say it was abusive? I said you would get single males who didn't know each other and had no intention of doing anything other than walking in together who would use it to get into clubs. Possibly on nights when it was no single guys and therefore potentially also risking them making a pest of themselves. Not exactly in the spirit of the night.

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Why don't you take it to court? Private clubs are able to charge different prices with a valid reason in this case making it more likely that they guys who pay the higher price have a bit of respect, want to be there and aren't just wandering in after the pub expecting an easy shag at a cut down price.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ifs the single guys that keep the clubs a float

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Was going to go to a local club tonight but glad I decided to check the prices first. Not sure how they justify £25 for single guys and yet only £15 for TV's - the same as a couple.

Some singles are a pain but come on don't put all the non TV guys in the scum of the earth basket. Surely if a TV can get in for less than a single guy then the same should be true for gay and bi guys.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc"

I did to chat to couples. Because, even if I'm not on their wish list, they will have friends and maybe, just maybe if I'm nice (which I am, by the way) they'll put in a good word for me, with one of their sexy friends. Fingers crossed.

Manners and respect are free, talk is cheap, but successful networking is valuable and being told, my-mate-says-she-fancies-you is priceless.

I live in hope.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

"Are you telling me that no lawyer or barrister cas ever been to a club?

The reason I ask this question is this. IS THIS LEGAL? Surely one of them must have asked this question

We single blokes need a fair crack at the whip...and paddles pinwheel.

I'm sure that one of you lovely FABer's are going to tell me who charges a flat rate no matter who you are. So sing their praises from the roof tops and hopefully, they'll become the norm.

Phew.

The cost was averaged out, I could then go more than once a month."

This has been done to death over the years. Do a forum search. It is legal. They are private members clubs and can offer a reduction to under represented groups e.g women.

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?"

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will."

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I agree, but I've been to club's with female partners who are not my partner but partner for the event

and had to pay for both, makes no sense we walked in played and left as a couple some club's just have it all wrong.

However, I do feel that there should be a way of allowing bi/gay guys to go together for couples price - just not sure how you'd balance it with the above.

Most clubs aren't big on people coupling up for the night - it's one thing if you are regular partners plan to play together but people who just do it to get people in are frowned on. "
the point the Ops making is that these are regular women he plays with so they are a couple he's not trying to get anyone in on the cheap he's going to the club as a couple

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

All interesting and looks like it will be a topic that is always talked about.

I have a partner and I'm lucky enough to have other female friends who trust me to take them to club's for both of us to enjoy on mixed and couple nights.

I mix with everyone so just wonder when you are a member why you can't attend with other people. You have membership and vouch for the other person as I have regular friends...... anyway everyone's situation is different and every club is different.

I will just enjoy what I have and what I get up to.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?"

Oh really - gosh thank you for that. I perceive them as being slightly different - subtle but different. It's not abusive but it is abusing a system. No I meant respect as in for the other people in there - as in not the type of behaviours described at length in the thread.

I said unfairly because pretending to be a couple, not that far fetched believe me as I've known it to be attempted, is trying to gain access to a pricing structure that is not designed for them. It is designed for people with some form of relationship, who intend to come in and spend the evening together in some form or another, other than sharing a bill and a locker only.

I didn't say they would be coupling up in order to be pests, consciously, but there is potential that they would be displaying those same negative behaviours again. On a night where people have consciously chosen to avoid that type of behaviour by going to a couples only night.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?"

I don't gamble but in all the years I have been here alot of talk has been said about taking a club to court. Are you prepared to do it? Imagine you do. You win. Clubs have to impose same prices for single fems as single males. Female numbers drop even more. Male numbers drop. Clubs go out of business. You have 'won' - you have equality, unfortunately swinging clubs are dead. So please, as I say, if you feel passionate about it then take it to court.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

Equality always has a cost.

However why do you think women would go less if they paid the same as men?

Jsne charged flat rate of £10 per person. I went there and there were males, females and couples.

It would have been a really popular venue if it wasnt closed down.

My friend from here got very upset when i point out the fact that another loval club let women in for £5 as opposed to charging men £20 using them as bait to get in the cash cows.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Set up a swingers club for single men, problem solved.

We don’t mind single men, we do dislike single men who have no respect. The last one who tried to touch when I had a lady in space got that close he got in the way of a flogger.

One thing that does my kangaroos in the top paddock is single people who don’t respect and yes they do spoil it not only for others, they spoil it for other single men.

Think a single men run club would be an interesting project.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

Equality always has a cost.

However why do you think women would go less if they paid the same as men?

Jsne charged flat rate of £10 per person. I went there and there were males, females and couples.

It would have been a really popular venue if it wasnt closed down.

My friend from here got very upset when i point out the fact that another loval club let women in for £5 as opposed to charging men £20 using them as bait to get in the cash cows.

I always wondered why feminist never took up the cause of equal costs for all....

Since men and women are equal. Feminist should protest ladies nights at bars and equal payment for all genders at swing clubs...

This would be a historic event , but I’m not holding my breath ... that I would see this in my lifetime....

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

Equality always has a cost.

However why do you think women would go less if they paid the same as men?

Jsne charged flat rate of £10 per person. I went there and there were males, females and couples.

It would have been a really popular venue if it wasnt closed down.

My friend from here got very upset when i point out the fact that another loval club let women in for £5 as opposed to charging men £20 using them as bait to get in the cash cows.

I wouldn't pay £50 to be pawed at by men. Hair, outfit, nails etc and you are talking £120 for a night out. No chance! Maybe some women would but I doubt it. Hell I struggle to get a decent pair of hold ups for less than £10.

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By *qua vitaeWoman over a year ago

Shropshire/Midlands

"Are you telling me that no lawyer or barrister cas ever been to a club?

The reason I ask this question is this. IS THIS LEGAL? Surely one of them must have asked this question

We single blokes need a fair crack at the whip...and paddles pinwheel.

I'm sure that one of you lovely FABer's are going to tell me who charges a flat rate no matter who you are. So sing their praises from the roof tops and hopefully, they'll become the norm.

Phew.

The cost was averaged out, I could then go more than once a month."

It is. Just like how women pay more at hairdressers, dry cleaners and personal items such as, razors, deodorant, etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

We can have the abuse variant debate another time...

You said in your post before last that "Private clubs are able to charge different prices with a valid reason in this case making it more likely that they guys who pay the higher price have a bit of respect". which was why I asked if their was a monetary value to respect. Your answer went off on a tangent from the actual point.

Is that your design for a couples price or is it one you think is any clubs one?

Potential pests could be used about anyone and isn't that one of the reasons clubs have security.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

My money was on 'I don't gamble'. It always is when people make big statements on the internet.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"What I don't like is the stalkerish element to some single men. Following you around like a lost dog. Expecting sex without the courtesy of chatting beforehand etc

I'd gladly oblige, social or playing . Let's see how it goes.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

My money was on 'I don't gamble'. It always is when people make big statements on the internet."

Yeh same as 'I will take this to court' Changes nothing. Clubs will charge what they like.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

We can have the abuse variant debate another time...

Is that your design for a couples price or is it one you think is any clubs one?

Potential pests could be used about anyone and isn't that one of the reasons clubs have security. "

I've never minded healthy debate and never expect to have the same opinions as anyone. But I don't much care for the way you express your differing opinions so let's drawn a line under it, say we disagree and leave it at that.

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By *urved HunnyWoman over a year ago

Essex

I go to clubs to meet single guys only. I've been on the scene long term and yes, they ask to chat, in the hope of play, but rarely do I encounter any rudeness from them, actually where there's been trouble occurring lately it's been from couples and single fems. It seems to me that single guys are at the bottom of the pecking order, maybe entry could be made more even for all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

We can have the abuse variant debate another time...

Is that your design for a couples price or is it one you think is any clubs one?

Potential pests could be used about anyone and isn't that one of the reasons clubs have security.

I haven't expressed any differing opinions, just asked for some illumination on things you have said. I'm cool with you bailing out at this juncture.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman over a year ago

Tamworth

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

We can have the abuse variant debate another time...

Is that your design for a couples price or is it one you think is any clubs one?

Potential pests could be used about anyone and isn't that one of the reasons clubs have security.

I haven't expressed any differing opinions, just asked for some illumination on things you have said. I'm cool with you bailing out at this juncture."

Exactly this - you have a very snarky way of speaking. But you'll never see it so again let's agree to disagree and leave it there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?

You said 'abused' I said 'abusive' in context to my question. Both from the verb abuse fyi.

Two guys coupling up to go make pests of themselves seems a little far-fetched to me.

I didn't ask about 'unfairly'. What do you mean by unfairly? And do you mean 'respect' has a monetary value?

We can have the abuse variant debate another time...

Is that your design for a couples price or is it one you think is any clubs one?

Potential pests could be used about anyone and isn't that one of the reasons clubs have security.

I haven't expressed any differing opinions, just asked for some illumination on things you have said. I'm cool with you bailing out at this juncture.

Exactly this - you have a very snarky way of speaking. But you'll never see it so again let's agree to disagree and leave it there. "

It's like we've gone full circle back to 'abusive'! Dare I say, it is highly unlikely that you have ever heard me speak.

As I haven't expressly disagreed with anything you've said can we just agree that I won't ask you anymore questions?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

That might be the best option

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It is. Just like how women pay more at hairdressers, dry cleaners and personal items such as, razors, deodorant, etc."

Pretty sure if you went to asda to buy gilette fusion pro you would be charged the same price as if a man went to asda to buy them. Also pretty sure they cut hair just the same as venus blades.

Unless men are entering a different club to women you need to compare like for like. Same products not similer products.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

Equality always has a cost.

However why do you think women would go less if they paid the same as men?

Jsne charged flat rate of £10 per person. I went there and there were males, females and couples.

It would have been a really popular venue if it wasnt closed down.

My friend from here got very upset when i point out the fact that another loval club let women in for £5 as opposed to charging men £20 using them as bait to get in the cash cows.

I always wondered why feminist never took up the cause of equal costs for all....

Since men and women are equal. Feminist should protest ladies nights at bars and equal payment for all genders at swing clubs...

This would be a historic event , but I’m not holding my breath ... that I would see this in my lifetime...."

An interesting thought my friend; Emmeline Pankhurst on the entrance threshold to a swingers’ club, does she say:

a) “I insist you take the exact same payment from me as a single man would pay!”

or:

b) “Don’t be absurd, I’m a lady, here’s your tenner!”

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By *ilyandfelixCouple over a year ago

Portsmouth

Maybe I’m getting the wrong idea about what people are saying but I always got the impression it wasn’t about discouraging single guys. More about trying to encourage single women and couples?

If you don’t attract women then it’s just gonna be a club of 95% men walking around trying to find the one or two women there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don’t know what clubs penalise people for coupling up, one of the better know clubs in Manchester area once let me in for couples price as the fem I was meeting had arrived early and got in free.

I’ve visited quite a few clubs, loads of ‘first dates’, never been charged extra.

I accept if I’m going along solo, I’m gonna pay more.I do object to being made to join as a member and pay extra, though understand why clubs want to know which single guys they are admitting to the premises.

I think it’s the single guy fees that keep a lot of these places afloat

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By *litterbabeWoman over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"Maybe I’m getting the wrong idea about what people are saying but I always got the impression it wasn’t about discouraging single guys. More about trying to encourage single women and couples?

If you don’t attract women then it’s just gonna be a club of 95% men walking around trying to find the one or two women there. "

That's what I thought too..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges. "

I think its disgusting how much single guys get charged. Its not fair in my eyes at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Set up a swingers club for single men, problem solved.

We don’t mind single men, we do dislike single men who have no respect. The last one who tried to touch when I had a lady in space got that close he got in the way of a flogger.

One thing that does my kangaroos in the top paddock is single people who don’t respect and yes they do spoil it not only for others, they spoil it for other single men.

Think a single men run club would be an interesting project."

You do get couples who have no respect as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?

And no, I have never unfairly done anything that springs to mind to get a discount I'm not entitled to. I'll save money where I have been invited to do so.

Or you could just go to the clubs where prices are more similar...?"
not sure of your logic on this comment how does charging the guy more give him more respect if anything it inspires him to want what he thinks he's paid for more and sex and alcohol don't mix , surely the club's don't allow people obviously under the influence in?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's the nature of business. You pay twice as much for the wine when you sit down to dine.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's the nature of business. You pay twice as much for the wine when you sit down to dine."
Well no because irrespective of sex that's the levy

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By *etLikeMan over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

I really object to the unfair pricing structures, however I fully understand why they are there. I do wonder sometimes if the pricing is counterproductive. With some men’s attitudes I have encountered in clubs, they feel that “I have paid my £40, therefore I’m entitled to get a shag”

I go along with no expectations and pay my premium. I likely have more luck than the “wanking dead” by engaging with others there.

Those who are simply looking for sex are easy to spot, as if they do get invited to play, they are out of there like a shot afterwards. Dare I say that they have used their entry fee as a form of transactional sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I really object to the unfair pricing structures, however I fully understand why they are there. I do wonder sometimes if the pricing is counterproductive. With some men’s attitudes I have encountered in clubs, they feel that “I have paid my £40, therefore I’m entitled to get a shag”

I go along with no expectations and pay my premium. I likely have more luck than the “wanking dead” by engaging with others there.

"
Some want something for their money unfortunately it's a concept us capitalists invented ie money for a product unless walking across the club threshold and having a dance some local dance clubs in Kettering no charge to enter or maybe a sauna jacuzzi or steam room local sports centre a fiver it's a lot of money to pay to come away empty handed so you could understand the frustration in that circumstance, one has to appreciate of course that people, women, sex objects of desire are involved and that makes it doubley frustrating especially if you're personalityless, fugly or pushy but still frustrating but there are much cheaper clubs available one in Blackpool I was told men £19 to enter now that's a fair price if they have decent facilities, it's a difficult situation really but because women are generally the object of mens desire an eternal one

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Infusion on a Sunday daytime is £12.50 for single male & £15 for couple. Guess what, it's full of men. Last time we went 2 x older couples there. We go just to chill especially as its open 11am so gives us chance to sober up before drive home after Saturday night there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We would say if guys don’t like paying sometimes triple what a woman would pay vote with your feet and just don’t go then the clubs would struggle and have to lower the charge ! We have never met a disrespectful guy at a club yet .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single men, whilst all the single men are bitching about how unfair it is, get dressed go to a club mingle, flirt, talk to people and enjoy yourself.

Having been a single male on the scene, I had an amazing time, the are so many couples, groups, single girls and single men all wanting to enjoy themselves it's untrue.

The successful single men are not in the forums complaining they are messaging people having meets, going to clubs and parties, creating circles of play mates, and making good friends.

Crazy init ? We live in a patriarchal society which subjugates woman and the one time men have to work for it they moan.

The last night we partied at a club we fucked our way through 4 single guys and ended up at a private after party. Not one of them moaned about not getting meets. Funny that.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"Single men, whilst all the single men are bitching about how unfair it is, get dressed go to a club mingle, flirt, talk to people and enjoy yourself.

Having been a single male on the scene, I had an amazing time, the are so many couples, groups, single girls and single men all wanting to enjoy themselves it's untrue.

The successful single men are not in the forums complaining they are messaging people having meets, going to clubs and parties, creating circles of play mates, and making good friends.

Crazy init ? We live in a patriarchal society which subjugates woman and the one time men have to work for it they moan.

The last night we partied at a club we fucked our way through 4 single guys and ended up at a private after party. Not one of them moaned about not getting meets. Funny that."

Not all the single guys are bi though

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I seriously don't have that problem, I think the statement has been taken in a number of ways.

I enjoy the club's and enjoy all aspects and have couples and single females as friends.

It was a statement about certain club's not accepting that a singk3 guy in the scene has multiple women he classes as his partner when they are out so why can't they accept that.
"Single men, whilst all the single men are bitching about how unfair it is, get dressed go to a club mingle, flirt, talk to people and enjoy yourself.

Having been a single male on the scene, I had an amazing time, the are so many couples, groups, single girls and single men all wanting to enjoy themselves it's untrue.

The successful single men are not in the forums complaining they are messaging people having meets, going to clubs and parties, creating circles of play mates, and making good friends.

Crazy init ? We live in a patriarchal society which subjugates woman and the one time men have to work for it they moan.

The last night we partied at a club we fucked our way through 4 single guys and ended up at a private after party. Not one of them moaned about not getting meets. Funny that."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We were in a club on couples night when a fat old fella came in with a stunning 20 year old fem. She left after and hour and he was still in the club. We were sure she was a brass and he had chucked her 50 quid to help him get in.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"We were in a club on couples night when a fat old fella came in with a stunning 20 year old fem. She left after and hour and he was still in the club. We were sure she was a brass and he had chucked her 50 quid to help him get in."

Chams don't allow this, we wouldn't go to club that allowed ticketing

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"I go to clubs to meet single guys only. I've been on the scene long term and yes, they ask to chat, in the hope of play, but rarely do I encounter any rudeness from them, actually where there's been trouble occurring lately it's been from couples and single fems. It seems to me that single guys are at the bottom of the pecking order, maybe entry could be made more even for all"

MWWWAAA

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

How exactly is wanting to get in cheaper, from generally extortionate rates, abusive?

Haven't you ever done something to cut a cost?"

Are you Mr & Mrs Moneysaving expert?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

not all married couples are together every minute of the evening

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

If you feel passionately about it take it to court. Nobody ever will.

I'll call you on that. Would you like a bet, say £50?

Equality always has a cost.

However why do you think women would go less if they paid the same as men?

Jsne charged flat rate of £10 per person. I went there and there were males, females and couples.

It would have been a really popular venue if it wasnt closed down.

My friend from here got very upset when i point out the fact that another loval club let women in for £5 as opposed to charging men £20 using them as bait to get in the cash cows.

I always wondered why feminist never took up the cause of equal costs for all....

Since men and women are equal. Feminist should protest ladies nights at bars and equal payment for all genders at swing clubs...

This would be a historic event , but I’m not holding my breath ... that I would see this in my lifetime...."

They were quick enough and determined enough to get into men only golf clubs and change their admission policies.

(swinging in a club and swinging with a club, should be the same eh?)

Equality for all, I say.

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By *eepster69Man over a year ago

Dumfries

"We would say if guys don’t like paying sometimes triple what a woman would pay vote with your feet and just don’t go then the clubs would struggle and have to lower the charge ! We have never met a disrespectful guy at a club yet . "

I think fairer pricing towards single guys is becoming more normal around the North West.

Both ClubSX & Entice in Preston seem to have done away with extortionate membership fees as well as a realistic entry fee.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I'd prefer that private clubs are subject to the same laws as other businesses are. Some of the initial equalities legislation is now many decades old. We now need a legal equality, so that clubs charge equally and stop some of the discrimination that they impose.

Some great places are ahead of the field. Others won't progress unless they are subject to legal requirements.

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By *wingin CatMan over a year ago

London

"Single men, whilst all the single men are bitching about how unfair it is, get dressed go to a club mingle, flirt, talk to people and enjoy yourself.

Having been a single male on the scene, I had an amazing time, the are so many couples, groups, single girls and single men all wanting to enjoy themselves it's untrue.

The successful single men are not in the forums complaining they are messaging people having meets, going to clubs and parties, creating circles of play mates, and making good friends.

Crazy init ? We live in a patriarchal society which subjugates woman and the one time men have to work for it they moan.

The last night we partied at a club we fucked our way through 4 single guys and ended up at a private after party. Not one of them moaned about not getting meets. Funny that."

This.

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By *wingin CatMan over a year ago

London

"Maybe I’m getting the wrong idea about what people are saying but I always got the impression it wasn’t about discouraging single guys. More about trying to encourage single women and couples?"

Exactly - the difference between optimism and pessimism.

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By *razymaybeCouple over a year ago

Truro

This^ on point!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The question is... if it was revered and women had to pay double than a man would they be vocal about it?

If so surely they shouldnt be supporting it just because its in their favor.

1) As it stands women are charge less to encourage more women to go... (said in a post above)

2) also said in a post above men are charged more to subsidise the women

Therefore the clubs are viewing women as bait to bring the cash in.

I vote with my feet and wont attend a club that has such differential (and i expect illegal) pricing.

I just dont care enough to take it to court. I dont need to attend swinging clubs to enjoy myself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Clubs charge equally and we are done with them, just become a wank fest with people being followed around. Stop crying and if you don't like it then stop going to clubs. What a little bitch.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs charge equally and we are done with them, just become a wank fest with people being followed around. Stop crying and if you don't like it then stop going to clubs. What a little bitch."

Hahaha someone that cant even read tries to insult me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Clubs charge equally and we are done with them, just become a wank fest with people being followed around. Stop crying and if you don't like it then stop going to clubs. What a little bitch.

Hahaha someone that cant even read tries to insult me"

Apologies fella, read a very similar thread this morning and got the 2 mixed up.

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By *onglegslexieWoman over a year ago

Leeds

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By *hiterosesCouple over a year ago

Stafford

We rarely post in negativity and controversial based forums, but here’s our take on it having been to many clubs in UK Plus the States and Europe. For the record we also meet sgl m so we have a vested interest in them having access etc.

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned a club that restricted access to playrooms for unaccompanied sgl m. We’ve seen this in many US Clubs. We think this is the perfect solution to the walking dead key jangling morons who spoil it for the many decent, sociable and skilled sgls. Because no conversation...no invite rules, it means that the knuckledragging Neanderthals with the social skills of a blancmange are left without even a porn show to watch while having a crafty tug!

Also for everyone commenting on pricing the UK is extremely cheap for visits, both for cpls and sgls. It’s not unusual to be $75 for couples and in excess of $100 for guys.

To all the guys who read this thread....We like meeting DECENT, WELL DRESSED, COHERENT, INTERESTING and CONFIDENT guys, with their glasses more than half full! If you believe your paying for access to our Fem...and not the club then you’re in the wrong place! Take a look at yourselves, your dress sense, body shape and most of all attitude! It’s not the club ripping you off with price...You’re letting yourselves down with negativity!

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By *ilyandfelixCouple over a year ago

Portsmouth

The other side to this post.

“ it’s the same price now for men and women....all these clubs are shit cos they’re so full of single guys! Where are the women?”

It’s supply and demand, there’s a bigger demand for women and couples to come to the clubs so there’s a range of people there.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

A huge part of a club's pricing policy is to try and ballance the attendance. It needs to be cheap for lone women to encourage them to go, couples are the core customers so they're pricing is in the middle and men need to be controlled so the price goes up to control the numbers.

Cal

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By *ougarsandcubsWoman over a year ago

Medway

They arent everywhere

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"A huge part of a club's pricing policy is to try and ballance the attendance. It needs to be cheap for lone women to encourage them to go, couples are the core customers so they're pricing is in the middle and men need to be controlled so the price goes up to control the numbers.

Cal"

This exactly

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By *ougarsandcubsWoman over a year ago

Medway

Cal"

Disagree its what you believe not actual facts that many are too scared to embrace

We have open door policy

Females free males n couples same rate... all ages attend

Average 1 to 1.2 ratio. With single fems and female of couples to single males and male of couples..

Average 100 to 120 people to each

event.

In past years at other events and clubs I kept same policy based on my realisation of fantasty to no show on meets and work ratios theroy and experience..

One event ( not cc) i had 190 males on list 13 showed

Even now on other ventures over 50 percent of guys on lists never show..

Higher cost for males majes them more expectant of sex and that type of male is refective to that want.

Higher prices dont mean better quality same as the elite selection of hot pic couples dont mean a better party or respectful fun people. Many single fems and couples like an extra male.. it is discrimintion but doubt it will ever change

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By *layfullsamMan over a year ago

Solihull

Maybe it's dominatrix night and they're supposed to be chastised ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with. "
all but 2 of my bad experiences at clubs have been with single women not men..

Op. Don't know where you have been as my ex used to take a different woman to a club every week when I first met him. I also know plenty of others that do.

But I do think that unless it's a regular couple pricing as two singles is right.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Well it was where we last met,

I have a couples membership and was attending with a regular playmate of mine....... I just think things do need to change in certain instances.
"Unfortunately some single men employ predatory tactics to get laid. In our experiences they are the most dangerous and disrespectful category of people going to the clubs. Any negative stories we hear about trouble in a club always starts with a single men.

Swingers clubs should be for swingers. For single men there is the rest of the world to play with. all but 2 of my bad experiences at clubs have been with single women not men..

Op. Don't know where you have been as my ex used to take a different woman to a club every week when I first met him. I also know plenty of others that do.

But I do think that unless it's a regular couple pricing as two singles is right. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair I agree with that way the clubs do it for genuine people there needs to be a good balance not over run with single men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all."

Cultural values?

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman over a year ago

London

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?"

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Cal

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Disagree its what you believe not actual facts that many are too scared to embrace

We have open door policy

Females free males n couples same rate... all ages attend

Average 1 to 1.2 ratio. With single fems and female of couples to single males and male of couples..

Average 100 to 120 people to each

event.

In past years at other events and clubs I kept same policy based on my realisation of fantasty to no show on meets and work ratios theroy and experience..

One event ( not cc) i had 190 males on list 13 showed

Even now on other ventures over 50 percent of guys on lists never show..

Higher cost for males majes them more expectant of sex and that type of male is refective to that want.

Obviously, if you're operating a guest list or using other systems to control the numbers then the need to overcharge the blokes goes down. But it is a fact that many clubs use the prices to try to redress the balance. Many clubs only charge single ladies a nominal fee (£5) if anything at all... because there are so few of them attending clubs.

Cal

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman over a year ago

London

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience."

It just takes minimal intelligence to pretend to have respect if a person does not really feel it. After all, it is in their best interest. If someone cannot do that, I blame their lack of intelligence rather than their culture for it, even though culture does play a part.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience."

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I personally hate single men, cannot stand them

Shit wait,,, I am one

Oh fudge

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?"

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

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By *eanandJulieCouple over a year ago

Doncaster

To get back to the OP’s original point. At La Chambre a single guy can attend on couples night with a femal, ( play mate, single girl, or lady from another couple ). As long as both people are members or become members. We link both cards together for the evening.

However, yes there is a however. As it is couples night, couples come to play with other couples . If they want to play with just each other that’s fine, if the want to swap then they would be expected to swap partners with the other couple. It’s no use a guy fetching a femal then hoping to play as singles . Couples nights is for 2 sums, 4 sums, 6 sums and so on. The people who attend are not looking to add and extra guy into their play.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"To get back to the OP’s original point. At La Chambre a single guy can attend on couples night with a femal, ( play mate, single girl, or lady from another couple ). As long as both people are members or become members. We link both cards together for the evening.

When are your cpuples nights? Interested x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One reason why I'd never go to a club should be the same price for everyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men."

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

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By *heIcebreakersCouple over a year ago

Cramlington

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "
Chastised? Probably the wrong word...

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?"

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "

Getting the thread back on track; I think your last point is the most important for single guys; become a regular at one club. If you’re not able to do this, stick with private meets through Fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We like single guys. Some overstep the mark but hate to see them put off attending.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Ok chastised maybe a strong word but not incorrect it can mean to be lectured or punished and both of these do happen to men on the scene. On this subject.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"The question is... if it was revered and women had to pay double than a man would they be vocal about it?

If so surely they shouldnt be supporting it just because its in their favor.

1) As it stands women are charge less to encourage more women to go... (said in a post above)

Women typically pay more for haircuts, that but that doesn't stop them going, does it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All clubs will have occupancy limits to comlly with health and safety limits.

Whats wrong with them setting a limit on number of men and women per night. They can prebook (pay on booking to cover no shows) or pay at door but be rufused if ghe limit is up (lists would cover all. Females count as women men as man (odd that innit) and couples one of each or a couple list seperate who can use the singles list if the couples list is full.

no need to charge different entry fees

Can control the numberes

Liss chance of people thinking they derserve play as they paid more

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For those that say it is legal for private member clubs to charge what they like below is taken from the equality act 2010.

It is unlawful for a private club or other association

to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing

or potential member or an associate. (An associate

is someone who is not a member but who has

some or all of the rights of a member because they

are a member of an affiliated private club.) A club

cannot refuse membership, or grant membership

on less favourable terms (such as by applying

different conditions or fees) because the person

has a protected characteristic – disability, gender

reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion

or belief, sex or sexual orientation.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple over a year ago

Bedworth

Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time"

Because cost is stopping me from going more often. Simples.

Travel £10. It's a 60 mile round trip to my nearest club.

Entry £30ish

So if a woman can get free entry and then she can go more often. £10 per visit versus £40 multiply that at a weekly visit and it soon adds up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single men mostly go to swinging clubs to meet women. Usually there arent enough wonen to go round.

You can complain about equality etc etc, however if you charged women more there will probably be less of them. How does that helps men’s chances of meeting them?

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman over a year ago

essex just looking around

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman over a year ago

essex just looking around

Cal

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Disagree its what you believe not actual facts that many are too scared to embrace

We have open door policy

Females free males n couples same rate... all ages attend

Average 1 to 1.2 ratio. With single fems and female of couples to single males and male of couples..

Average 100 to 120 people to each

event.

In past years at other events and clubs I kept same policy based on my realisation of fantasty to no show on meets and work ratios theroy and experience..

One event ( not cc) i had 190 males on list 13 showed

Even now on other ventures over 50 percent of guys on lists never show..

Higher cost for males majes them more expectant of sex and that type of male is refective to that want.

Cal"

No its an open door policy. People join on door.

law of averages.. works in that area.( all areas are different and thats a main factor).

infact once only 13 guys. Fenalrs werent imptessed and i see hotwife club etc calling out for decent guys.

Only Complaints Ive ever had were about expectant over d*unk females.. some of tge guys and fenales are literaaly petrified .

And just to tgriw it a on the mix.. its all open play ates.

Now thats just thrown it all off balance. Hasnt it

4years.. 3years were 2 parties a month!!.. average 100 plus guests each event...

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman over a year ago

essex just looking around

Appolgises on typos pressed wrong button

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are you telling me that no lawyer or barrister cas ever been to a club?

The reason I ask this question is this. IS THIS LEGAL? Surely one of them must have asked this question

We single blokes need a fair crack at the whip...and paddles pinwheel.

I'm sure that one of you lovely FABer's are going to tell me who charges a flat rate no matter who you are. So sing their praises from the roof tops and hopefully, they'll become the norm.

Phew.

The cost was averaged out, I could then go more than once a month."

Ok been on the scene for 12 years and have visited clubs all over the uk. There was a club that charged the same per person it ended up over run with single guys so the females stopped then the couples stopped going in the end there were 30+ single guys complaining that no females were in the club. Ratios have to be controlled. So really the only way to do that is with price or turning people away at the door and really don’t think anyone would be happy if they’ve take time to get to club to be told they couldn’t come in. But do agree there are clubs out there that take it to far and charge guys £30 to £40 more than couples. So would you prefer to pay £10 to £15 more and have a balanced number of people or everyone pays the same and end up in a club full of guys.

As for the op comment most clubs don’t mind fuck buddies joining but do have a issue with a guy bringing a different women each week or them that join as a couple but then do there own thing once in the club but this is only a issue on couples only nights.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”."

Well, you introduced cultural values and cultural/regional societies to the thread and haven't expanded at all. Without providing further information it's not likely that anyone can prove you wrong which you say you are open to.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism?

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By *layfullsamMan over a year ago

Solihull

"Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time

Because cost is stopping me from going more often. Simples.

Travel £10. It's a 60 mile round trip to my nearest club.

Entry £30ish

So if a woman can get free entry and then she can go more often. £10 per visit versus £40 multiply that at a weekly visit and it soon adds up.

I'd say £40 is an absolute bargain if you get to meet up with a woman/couple that might lead to fun away from the club at other times.

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By *he RingmasterMan over a year ago

Canford Cliffs

Surely all this talk about if clubs dropped their prices they would be overrun with single men - Well surely the way to deal with this is only to sell a limited amount of spaces for single men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"...So really the only way to do that is with price or turning people away at the door and really don’t think anyone would be happy if they’ve take time to get to club to be told they couldn’t come in. But do agree there are clubs out there that take it to far and charge guys £30 to £40 more than couples."

I'm guessing you have been to a resturant before where you've had to book a table before you go.

Most people are familure with this method and not turning up for meals and throwing a paddy if they cant get in.

So a different price iant the oy method of contolling numbers.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple over a year ago

Bedworth

"Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time

Because cost is stopping me from going more often. Simples.

Travel £10. It's a 60 mile round trip to my nearest club.

Entry £30ish

So if a woman can get free entry and then she can go more often. £10 per visit versus £40 multiply that at a weekly visit and it soon adds up.

Jeez a night out at the pub costs more!

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By *he RingmasterMan over a year ago

Canford Cliffs

"Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time

Because cost is stopping me from going more often. Simples.

Travel £10. It's a 60 mile round trip to my nearest club.

Entry £30ish

So if a woman can get free entry and then she can go more often. £10 per visit versus £40 multiply that at a weekly visit and it soon adds up.

Jeez a night out at the pub costs more!"

Not at a 'Spoons

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"Why all the big deal about women being charged less?

The regular night clubs in my closest city all give ladies free entry before a certain time and reduced price after, while men pay full price all the time

Because cost is stopping me from going more often. Simples.

Travel £10. It's a 60 mile round trip to my nearest club.

Entry £30ish

So if a woman can get free entry and then she can go more often. £10 per visit versus £40 multiply that at a weekly visit and it soon adds up.

Jeez a night out at the pub costs more!

Not at a 'Spoons"

Exactly, different venues different menus

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "

Every club we go to,, and that's a lot, welcomes single guys, they aren't chastised, and most have nights dedicated to single guy attention.

So in summary, your post is nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges. "

It's just supply and demand. If the same number of women wanted to go then charges would be equal. Its really very simple.

Most of the guys go because there are single girls and couples there so they can't charge the full price to make the club viable as it would put a lot of the very limited single women off.

So single men pay more than an equal share and single women less. How would you run your club and keep it commercially viable and in business.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've yet to attend a club in the UK where single men are treated as the OP states.

Setting aside the whole, "definition of a swinger" can of worms conversation, if swingers clubs are for swingers and not single men, does that mean they for single women?

Re the above, presumably a single man and a single woman should only meet outside of swinging and then visit clubs?

If clubs are for single women and not single men, isn't that making the assumption that all single women only want to play with couples and vice versa?

I know/have met/spoken to:

- Couples who are only interested in single men

- Couples who are only interested in other couples.

- Single men who are only interested in couples

- MF couples where the woman is straight

- Polite, respectful single men

- Rude MF couples

- Rude single women

"Sausage fest" implies that all couples only want other couples or single women - which we all know is not true.

Noone ever uses "pussy fest" in the same derogatory and disparaging manner as they do "sausage fest".

I would say that like everything else, preference, as well as supply and demand are factors but that does not mean out of MF couples, single men and single women one is better than the other.

Thank goodness we aren't all after the same thing I say!

*Disclaimer - The questions above are rhetorical . Simply sharing my thoughts, like everyone else

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

Do pubs offer areas to play

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By *he RingmasterMan over a year ago

Canford Cliffs

"A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

Do pubs offer areas to play "

Some have a 'Whacky Warehouse' I believe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

Do pubs offer areas to play

Some have a 'Whacky Warehouse' I believe "

The kids kind I wasn’t thinking of. What ever floats your boat I guess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

Most clubs aren't licensed so don't make a penny on alcohol sales

clubs make almost every single penny they make from entry and membership fees.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a single guy who attends clubs, I now only attend one. It’s because for me it’s clean, respectful and staff will take no nonsense from other members, single guys, females, couples doesn’t matter!

As Singleton it’s quite tricky, if I see a female that I fancy, she may be alone or a couple. I try to talk before hand, if it leads to something then great, if not then that’s great too. The clubs are NOT some sort of brothel, use the facilities, enjoy your day / evening. Iv gone plenty of times spoke to people and even been propositioned by a female. Unfortunately I wasn’t attracted to her so it was a polite thanks - no thanks! I have seen females who don’t want you to talk, just come on to them and play. Also seen couples that start and the guy has grabbed my hand and placed it on his partners boob! Admittedly I did show interest as she was lovely!

The point being we’re all different, some folk like to talk only, some talk and then play, some don’t say a word! As long as it’s consensual then fine. My issues are when single guys behave disrespect to a lady or couple, There’s no need for it. But if your ever at a club and this happened, inform the staff! A good club will pull them and give a warning or inform them their visit is over as is their membership!

As for costs! Well yes as a single guy I pay a lot for a years membership and even per visit. But that’s my choice! There are clubs cheaper and no ones forcing me to go!!! I could spend far more at the local pub and have worse conversations..... wouldn’t have the enjoyment of the facility’s of which I think people tend to forget that this is not cheap to operate and if it was cheap for single guys, then your prob have all sorts trying to get in. It’s difficult enough I’m sure for the staff to sort out the idiots!

By the way, I go to a well know and respectful club in Birtmingham. I adorne a tattoo of a spartan - so if you want to chat to me, say hi!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why does costing more mean you get a more respectable person?

Are you saing those that earn less are all scum?

Price and ability to pay has no relevance to the manners and repect a person can have.

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"I dont go to clubs as i disagree with the unequal charges. "

What is the cost?

Entrance Fee is £60 per couple and £20 for Single Ladies. If not on the Guest list then Club membership applies (NO SINGLE MEN AT CHIC)

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism? "

No, just trolls

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By *orgeouslyyoursWoman over a year ago

essex just looking around

Single females are usually free at most vanilla club / promotion nights before a set time. This entices in the males who spend more money.. tbh in scence the ratio of single females that attend clubs is very low.

Hyped prices for males dosnt make sense if they limit numbers ???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t agree with the single guy rates or the fact that the cap the single guy numbers too short I’m a single straight female I don’t play with females or couples yet that is the only choice I have at many clubs it’s unfair I understand women are cheaper to encourage the rest of the clients in they need a good female attendance but then that female attendance is limited to their choice of fun

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple over a year ago

Bedworth

"A night out at a pub is free...

what pub do you go to that charges £40 just to get in (using the £40 as its mentioned in the post).

Drinks are what costs money in pubs which they do at clubs too. You can also meet people for friendsbips and more in pubs if thats what your going there for.

Yes i do go to pubs, not that often though.

It’s all horses for courses.

We’re not huge fans of a night at the pub, we prefer a night at a club. Even though it’s not cheap, costs £33 to get in, £6 to park, £15 fuel, £70 hotel, £10 for a bottle of wine to take with us. In our opinion, it’s worth every penny.

Enjoy your night at the pub, I’m sure they won’t mind you sitting there drinking water all night rather than spending anything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism?

No, just trolls "

I'm grateful we don't share the same cultural values.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism?

No, just trolls

I'm grateful we don't share the same cultural values."

Me too.

Now what you are attempting to project on me can you please go and woof it up another tree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

[Quote]It’s all horses for courses.

Id rather have a night in. Im currently wrapped up on thd sofa watching upstart crow and waiting for vanity fair.

Too old for sitting in a pub all night. Just sepcial occasions with the lads which are more of a roving ale house study. Dont have another planned till christmas

Enjoy your night at the pub, I’m sure they won’t mind you sitting there drinking water all night rather than spending anything

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Quality aint cheap

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quality aint cheap"
Ha but how do you know you're going to see or get quality?

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"Quality aint cheapHa but how do you know you're going to see or get quality? "

Not going to sausage fest club nights. Swinging to us is likeminded couples, we like couples nights our choice

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Quality aint cheapHa but how do you know you're going to see or get quality? "

Isn’t that why they only charge single ladies a small amount.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"Quality aint cheapHa but how do you know you're going to see or get quality?

Isn’t that why they only charge single ladies a small amount.

No interest from us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism?

No, just trolls

I'm grateful we don't share the same cultural values.

Me too.

Now what you are attempting to project on me can you please go and woof it up another tree."

I haven't attempted to project anything on you. You casually chucked in cultural values in regard to ethnicity of other club goers and didn't have the balls to either substantiate or expand on what you meant.

Don't be trying to make it about me.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"I will hold my hand up, if the balance between singles of both the sexes is not close we will not attend.

Our first experience at a club was three women and about thirty men, imagine that dynamic!

Okay, we hold our hands up to wrong place, wrong time,,.

L only had to cross her legs and it caused a Mexican wave.

The only other time we have had problems with single men is, who we don’t have the same cultural values.

Clubs/socials just need to balance the men to lady ratio. Bit like fab really.

To me that is holistically where the fun begins.... for all.

Cultural values?

A euphemism for speaking with an accent while behaving badly. I personally would take exception of the latter rather than the former, but some people seem to think both are equally bad.

To me, respecting a lady is paramount, some cultural/regional societies don’t appear to hold that value too highly from my experience.

Willing to be proved wrong, as I said, just speaking from our experience.

So, if it was up to you, would you charge these members of other cultural/regional societies even more or just bar them entry?

Not our call, just talking from our experience which at this moment is our reality, as I said, open to be proven wrong.

As you can see from our verifications, we don’t have a problem with single men.

What cultural/regional societies are you talking about then?

Does it matter if you haven’t experienced it?

However, it would be so easy to generalise “single men”.

Are you wary of expanding lest you fall foul of forum/site rules on racism?

No, just trolls

I'm grateful we don't share the same cultural values.

Me too.

Now what you are attempting to project on me can you please go and woof it up another tree.

Don't be trying to make it about me."

Can’t remember mentioning.ethnicity. Think you need to talk to the tree next to me. Happy woofing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quality aint cheapHa but how do you know you're going to see or get quality?

Isn’t that why they only charge single ladies a small amount.

"
to achieve quality , I thought the theory was the more you pay the better you get

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Quality aint cheapHa but how do you know you're going to see or get quality?

Isn’t that why they only charge single ladies a small amount.

to achieve quality , I thought the theory was the more you pay the better you get

So does that mean theres alot of non quality women at clubs?....

Your aegument sir is invalid

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By *heIcebreakersCouple over a year ago

Cramlington

"Ok chastised maybe a strong word but not incorrect it can mean to be lectured or punished and both of these do happen to men on the scene. On this subject. "
You want to sound whiney about this, your call but generally speaking, it's not a good look....

What clubs do in terms of charging single men is no different to any other demand based pricing model. What people do on terms of 'lecturing' single men on here is no different to the way all manner of people routinely judge others or offer opinions about other's conduct. It's the interweb - it's what people do...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm guessing you have been to a resturant before where you've had to book a table before you go.

Most people are familure with this method and not turning up for meals and throwing a paddy if they cant get in.

So a different price iant the oy method of contolling numbers."

Do a forum search there was a club stop membership for a while he had nothing but abuse. There was another one that the members were complaining that most people in there most days were over 50 so they stopped membership for over 50s.

As for booking I’m guessing you’ve been to a restaurant that you have to book for sat there had your meal had a few drinks come the end of the evening 4 or 5 tables never had anyone at them because people didn’t turn up. Unlike a restaurant when you book a table you give a time people aren’t going to give a time of when there going to arrive at the club so if 30 guys book but only 10 turn up 20 other guys have missed out. I’ve done events on clubs has a guest list and sometimes 90% turn up other times only 30%. So still stick to what I said. Pricing is the best way to control numbers.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, Chams, Xtasia Sat evening only is no single men, but they can go all other times. Chams & Infusions are open in the day, Infusions charge £12.50 single men & £15 a couple, hardly rip off but guess what balance is more men!

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By *orny PTMan over a year ago

Peterborough

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, Chams, Xtasia Sat evening only is no single men, but they can go all other times. Chams & Infusions are open in the day, Infusions charge £12.50 single men & £15 a couple, hardly rip off but guess what balance is more men!"

I like those prices.

Women get in free or cheaper, to attract more men? How does that affect gay men? Surely them and single straight females would like a sausage fest.

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By *ngelina4uWoman over a year ago

Camberley/Middleton

"Well this may cause some debate and I'm not one for the forums however there's not many club's that are single men friendly.

Any way rant over, blokes will know the frustration and as I said I'm quite fortunate but it's very difficult for genuine respectful guys when it costs an arm and a leg to keep in the scene.

How have the rest of you found it...... I personally love some of the club's but things should change when you are a regular and become more known.... just a thought. "

I thought clubs liked single guys as they are the cash cow and pay the most to get in.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

I like those prices.

Women get in free or cheaper, to attract more men? How does that affect gay men? Surely them and single straight females would like a sausage fest."

Single fem £7.50. No idea on gay men, check out Chameleons Monday Bi night & Club Sx in Blackpool

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By *eepster69Man over a year ago

Dumfries

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

Chams, Xtasia Sat evening only is no single men, but they can go all other times. Chams & Infusions are open in the day, Infusions charge £12.50 single men & £15 a couple, hardly rip off but guess what balance is more men!"

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,"

Annual membership is rewarding loyalty and sounds reasonable, 2 x Fridays & you've almost broke even, rest of visits good value. Why should you be allowed on a Saturday night when your not a couple, believe it or not there is a need for couples who want couples its called swinging

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By *eepster69Man over a year ago

Dumfries

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,

So this rewarding loyalty, why is the membership annual for single guys yet lifetime for couples and single females?

Why is it 12 times the price for a single guy?

If you are saying swinging is only for couples, then single females should have the same measures applied to them.

My understanding of the definition of swinging is someone with a liberated attitude towards sex. It could be a male a female, a couple a trans etc etc.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple over a year ago

Chester

" Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,

So this rewarding loyalty, why is the membership annual for single guys yet lifetime for couples and single females?

Why is it 12 times the price for a single guy?

If you are saying swinging is only for couples, then single females should have the same measures applied to them.

My understanding of the definition of swinging is someone with a liberated attitude towards sex. It could be a male a female, a couple a trans etc etc."

Yes so go to a club that caters for your needs & price range. Single females despite the low cost struggle to attract. Yet men its an abundance. Our opinion of swinging is couples so we choose our club nights that respect this. Clubs that dont focus on couples should be where you put your money.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,

So this rewarding loyalty, why is the membership annual for single guys yet lifetime for couples and single females?

Why is it estx12 times the price for a single guy?

If you are saying swinging is only for couples, then single females should have the same measures applied to them.

My understanding of the definition of swinging is someone with a liberated attitude towards sex. It could be a male a female, a couple a trans etc etc."
and the etc, etc is?

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By *iamond coupleCouple over a year ago

leeds

A dead easy answer. This is the club, these are the prices, pay or leave. Simples. No one is forcing you to go

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Each club charges, vets differently its called supply & demand. Most clubs allow men everyday but hold an evening for couples only they are busy so much wanted nights ie Infusion, a

A better example would be Friday or Saturday night prices in Infusions.

Friday night: Single female-£10. Couple £12.50 per person. Single guy-£50.

If a single guy wants to reduce his entry fee to £25 he has a £60 ANNUAL membership fee. Compared to a single woman or a couples lifetime membership of £5.

After paying that extra membership fee, the single guy is still banned from Saturday nights.

If it really was just a system to limit the amount of one group you would run a limit on members.

It does very much smack of profiteering on single guys,

So this rewarding loyalty, why is the membership annual for single guys yet lifetime for couples and single females?

Why is it 12 times the price for a single guy?

If you are saying swinging is only for couples, then single females should have the same measures applied to them.

My understanding of the definition of swinging is someone with a liberated attitude towards sex. It could be a male a female, a couple a trans etc etc."

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