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"Maibe that is why it is so expensive for men to enter clubs as it covers the sex workers lol." maybe some clubs this applies to not all of course! But makes you wonder | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? | |||
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"I guess it goes on. Best ask the club direct " would it bother you to know that someone you might meet off here is a "working girl" I personally wouldn't be happy with it tbh | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? " noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine | |||
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"I guess it goes on. Best ask the club direct would it bother you to know that someone you might meet off here is a "working girl" I personally wouldn't be happy with it tbh " I have known some who respected the site and just played here for their own enjoyment And a couple who abused the site | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine " The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time." so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? | |||
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"dont get why anyone would care if a girl is a "working girl" i mean everyone here is looking for sex .... so as long as your not charging there is no issue . being paid = not always finding the guy sexy not being paid = picking who you fuck guess that could upset guys who get told NO " I guess it depends on the morals of the persons in question,in my book there's a difference between mutal sex and being paid to have sex | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? " The wording is very important, if they were paid to be at a club to guarantee sex then it's a brothel. If they are paid to be at an event where they can choose to play then it's a sex club. | |||
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"dont get why anyone would care if a girl is a "working girl" i mean everyone here is looking for sex .... so as long as your not charging there is no issue . being paid = not always finding the guy sexy not being paid = picking who you fuck guess that could upset guys who get told NO I guess it depends on the morals of the persons in question,in my book there's a difference between mutal sex and being paid to have sex " Have you been to the clubs you are talking about ? | |||
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"dont get why anyone would care if a girl is a "working girl" i mean everyone here is looking for sex .... so as long as your not charging there is no issue . being paid = not always finding the guy sexy not being paid = picking who you fuck guess that could upset guys who get told NO " Perhaps because a man wants to have sex with a woman who wants him and chooses him from her own free will. Not because she is paid to fuck a certain number of guys, even if she does choose which ones. We met a couple once who I strongly suspected weren't a couple and she had been paid to accompany him. We turned them down because I don't want to have sex with a woman who is being coerced into sleeping with me. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The wording is very important, if they were paid to be at a club to guarantee sex then it's a brothel. If they are paid to be at an event where they can choose to play then it's a sex club." Even a woman in a brothel can say no! Trust me | |||
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"dont get why anyone would care if a girl is a "working girl" i mean everyone here is looking for sex .... so as long as your not charging there is no issue . being paid = not always finding the guy sexy not being paid = picking who you fuck guess that could upset guys who get told NO I guess it depends on the morals of the persons in question,in my book there's a difference between mutal sex and being paid to have sex Have you been to the clubs you are talking about ? " I haven't no the only clubs I've been to is chams and xstasia | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The wording is very important, if they were paid to be at a club to guarantee sex then it's a brothel. If they are paid to be at an event where they can choose to play then it's a sex club." whats the difference in a brothel or sex club if the person is still getting paid? | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " 100% this would never be the case at _tasia' no way would paul want it or let it happen | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The wording is very important, if they were paid to be at a club to guarantee sex then it's a brothel. If they are paid to be at an event where they can choose to play then it's a sex club.whats the difference in a brothel or sex club if the person is still getting paid? " The wording in law is what makes the difference | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed." I think your living in planet cuckoo land | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land " We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ? | |||
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"You have been completely misled. All the real swingers clubs have very strict policies against admitting any so-called "working girls". They also try to stop "tickets" - guys who try to hire girls to gain entry with them as fake couples. For these clubs, the extra cost for single guys is just to limit numbers, and maybe to be able to offer discounts for couples and single ladies on mixed nights, to try to get a better ratio. However, there is another class of club (two of them in Birmingham) which are quite different from swingers clubs, and which have paid hostesses. There a good chance you might get a canoodle with the hostesses, but there's no actual guarantee. A few genuine swingers might be found at these clubs too, but they're in the minority. Swinging ladies go to these either because they'd like a gangbang, or because the hostesses take the pressure off. Janet" agreed | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts " what is the role of a "host"? | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts " I'm in agreement with that. If they were hot,young men who didn't say no to old women I'd pay to get in | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts what is the role of a "host"? " I've been told they make people feel at home,show them around etc and if they fancy someone they have sex with them. I'm sure their hospitality brings people back time and again. | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land " I'm sorry, but you've asked a question because 'someone told you' . What I'm saying is I've been to lots and it is wrong. Can you explain why I am in cuckoo land, whereas you, who hasn't been to one knows better??? | |||
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"I've never seen it and when I go to a club I'm there of my own free will no one pays me to be there " The club doesn't pay you to be there and you wouldn't know which ladies were being paid. If single ladies were thin on the ground and ladies in couples weren't interested in single men,the single men would stop coming and the club would lose revenue or have to put up membership for couples. | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts what is the role of a "host"? I've been told they make people feel at home,show them around etc and if they fancy someone they have sex with them. I'm sure their hospitality brings people back time and again. " at home like bring them a cup of tea and biscuit and a read of the paper? we'll surely a visitor can arrange his own Sex and dosent need a helpline hand hang on! So they pay to get in the club and a "host" shows the punter around and passes him on to the "working girl"? wow! I need to Build one of these buildings haha! | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land I'm sorry, but you've asked a question because 'someone told you' . What I'm saying is I've been to lots and it is wrong. Can you explain why I am in cuckoo land, whereas you, who hasn't been to one knows better???" the moment has gone..... | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land I'm sorry, but you've asked a question because 'someone told you' . What I'm saying is I've been to lots and it is wrong. Can you explain why I am in cuckoo land, whereas you, who hasn't been to one knows better???" The someone I heard it from was on here and worked at a club. How would you know who gets paid to attend? | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land I'm sorry, but you've asked a question because 'someone told you' . What I'm saying is I've been to lots and it is wrong. Can you explain why I am in cuckoo land, whereas you, who hasn't been to one knows better??? the moment has gone..... " Your answer makes no sense. Why do you know better than people who actually go? | |||
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"I suspect I have seen working girls at a club before - I've seen the same girl with different guys on the occasions I attended. I have also seen single girls turn up late into the evening and it just raised my suspicion. That was at _tasia. Chams I have never seen it happen. But for me we would just avoid. I'm not going to fuck someone that is being paid to fuck" I know plenty of single ladies that take a different guy most weeks to clubs so it may not be that at all x and we have turned up late to a club after a meet before | |||
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"I've been a hostess and worked at a club..being a Hostess at a stingers club is vastly different to a sex club I guess as my job was to make people feel welcome. Show them around..introduce them to others and keep an eye on how they were getting on... at no point was I expected or paid to have sex... I've also attended clubs on a regular basis and advertised I was going but made it clear the only thing I'd promise was to say hi. And working..well I was to busy showing newbies around.. serving drinks and dealing with any issues or message that cropped up to be naughty. I have been to a club with girls paid to be there and it had the best behaved single guys ever. And the girls were a laugh... and I've seen working girls paired up with guys at most clubs to get in as couples. How do I know... well I'm nosey and ask and not all hide the fact. As long as they weren't asking for money I don't care " I am a host too and also in a swinging relationship ... I host an event twice monthly because I love the club I've been going to for the last 3 years and encouraging new people to attend makes it better for all that go to be able to play We rarely play because we are picky so it's a bonus for us Working girls do attend swinging clubs but that's because they are swingers and in their own time so then they are just the same as the rest of us What you have to remember is if a club has to pay girls to sleep with guys it's not a worthwhile club to go to ... If a club is good and a host of an event is good people will WANT to go to enjoy and to play with others xx | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ?" I've been to swingers clubs around the country and some have had paid women. It's not uncommon. I don't see the issue either way. Some men that go to swingers clubs (either single or as a 'couple') clearly think the women there are unpaid prostitutes. Pretending that no men think this is naive. | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ? I've been to swingers clubs around the country and some have had paid women. It's not uncommon. I don't see the issue either way. Some men that go to swingers clubs (either single or as a 'couple') clearly think the women there are unpaid prostitutes. Pretending that no men think this is naive. " Indeed they do but I'd argue that those are the kind of men that ruin clubs for the couples. That's basically why we only go on couples only nights now. | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ? I've been to swingers clubs around the country and some have had paid women. It's not uncommon. I don't see the issue either way. Some men that go to swingers clubs (either single or as a 'couple') clearly think the women there are unpaid prostitutes. Pretending that no men think this is naive. Indeed they do but I'd argue that those are the kind of men that ruin clubs for the couples. That's basically why we only go on couples only nights now. " I've mostly been to clubs as a couple so have experience of both nights with single guys and 'just' couples. I've found the men in couples can have the exact same attitude, and sometimes even worse than single guys- they often act very entitled as they 'have a woman as bait'. | |||
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"I've mostly been to clubs as a couple so have experience of both nights with single guys and 'just' couples. I've found the men in couples can have the exact same attitude, and sometimes even worse than single guys- they often act very entitled as they 'have a woman as bait'. " We've been in situatons like this. For example, once I was with Marc and a really sexy, and obviously d*unk out of her mind, young women came over and started flirting hard core. But it felt really "off." I noticed that she kept looking behind her - and there was an older guy standing alone who she kept looking back to. We removed ourselves from the situation. I then saw her walk over to the older guy who immediately nudged her and told her to get talking to us again. Bait was exactly what it was. | |||
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"I've mostly been to clubs as a couple so have experience of both nights with single guys and 'just' couples. I've found the men in couples can have the exact same attitude, and sometimes even worse than single guys- they often act very entitled as they 'have a woman as bait'. We've been in situatons like this. For example, once I was with Marc and a really sexy, and obviously d*unk out of her mind, young women came over and started flirting hard core. But it felt really "off." I noticed that she kept looking behind her - and there was an older guy standing alone who she kept looking back to. We removed ourselves from the situation. I then saw her walk over to the older guy who immediately nudged her and told her to get talking to us again. Bait was exactly what it was. " Yup. One time this absolutely stunning, early 20's girl came over in AbFabs and started being really forward with me (Mr). Now we do swing with some beautiful couples but there's a long drawn out process we go through whereby I initially scare them off with my face picture but them slowly charm them back with a personality cocktail consisting of a heavy dose of charm, dash of wit and slice of pity. The fact that this woman was so interested in me set alarm bells off because let's face it, life isn't that fair. The guy also had a car that's worth more than my house but wasn't actually that much older than her. So probably drug dealer or pimp. | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ? I've been to swingers clubs around the country and some have had paid women. It's not uncommon. I don't see the issue either way. Some men that go to swingers clubs (either single or as a 'couple') clearly think the women there are unpaid prostitutes. Pretending that no men think this is naive. Indeed they do but I'd argue that those are the kind of men that ruin clubs for the couples. That's basically why we only go on couples only nights now. I've mostly been to clubs as a couple so have experience of both nights with single guys and 'just' couples. I've found the men in couples can have the exact same attitude, and sometimes even worse than single guys- they often act very entitled as they 'have a woman as bait'. " This is also true. It's a very unattractive trait. We saw a status update that said "you can fuck my wife if you bring a girl". Lovely. I felt like messaging and saying "my wife is away but I've got twenty Lambert & Butler and half a fifth of vodka?" So seriously, when did we start agreeing. Have you changed your opinions or have I become less of a dick? | |||
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"I suspect I have seen working girls at a club before - I've seen the same girl with different guys on the occasions I attended. I have also seen single girls turn up late into the evening and it just raised my suspicion. That was at _tasia. Chams I have never seen it happen. But for me we would just avoid. I'm not going to fuck someone that is being paid to fuck" As a club we don't pay any girls to "hostess" or entertain guys. But yes some single ladies do turn up late at the club. Probably finishing s late shift from local police station or tesco's but we prefer not to ask.....or make wild assumptions! If we caught any member asking another member for money, in return for sex, they would be banned immediately. | |||
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"This seems to have gone off track. Girls at swingers clubs are just single girls. No-one is getting paid. If you go to a swingers club there will be couples, single guys and some single girls all of the same status. Swingers clubs are not undercover brothels in any shape or form. Whoever told you is mis-informed. I think your living in planet cuckoo land We've been to a lot of swingers clubs and not seen paid women, can you tell us which clubs you are talking about ? I've been to swingers clubs around the country and some have had paid women. It's not uncommon. I don't see the issue either way. Some men that go to swingers clubs (either single or as a 'couple') clearly think the women there are unpaid prostitutes. Pretending that no men think this is naive. Indeed they do but I'd argue that those are the kind of men that ruin clubs for the couples. That's basically why we only go on couples only nights now. I've mostly been to clubs as a couple so have experience of both nights with single guys and 'just' couples. I've found the men in couples can have the exact same attitude, and sometimes even worse than single guys- they often act very entitled as they 'have a woman as bait'. This is also true. It's a very unattractive trait. We saw a status update that said "you can fuck my wife if you bring a girl". Lovely. I felt like messaging and saying "my wife is away but I've got twenty Lambert & Butler and half a fifth of vodka?" So seriously, when did we start agreeing. Have you changed your opinions or have I become less of a dick? " I was always a dick so it can't be that. Can't remember what we didn't agree about. I don't agree with some opinions on some subjects. I offend people frequently, you're not alone. Apologies anyway. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine " I have friends who work at clubs. The work behind the bar. Shat us the problem with that? Are you implying that they are Escorts or Prostitutes? If you are I find your post bloody insulting. Some clubs like The Private Club in Birmingham do employ Escorts and they are up front about it. They are a sex club not a swingers club. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? " The term hostess can be used lightly. I host events and could be classed as a hostess but I don't get paid to have sex with people and if I play I chose who I play with x | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts " Fun4two in Holland, possibly one of the best swingers clubs in the world, does a "Gigalo" night every month where women can pick from hired in "Dreamboat" type single guys. Don't know if the guys are "professional" or just good looking "amateurs". They go around with just shorts and a dicky bow tie on so the ladies can easily tell who they are. If you like them, you can have them ! We've never been, but I have sent in my "dreamboat" application form !!!! Along with another to Hugh Hefner to see if the Playboy Mansion needs a Handyman. (Unruly pubic hair my speciality) !!! John | |||
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"I suspect I have seen working girls at a club before - I've seen the same girl with different guys on the occasions I attended. I have also seen single girls turn up late into the evening and it just raised my suspicion. That was at _tasia. Chams I have never seen it happen. But for me we would just avoid. I'm not going to fuck someone that is being paid to fuck" Maybe she was single like myself and took different men, not really a shocker or it wouldn't make me think she's being paid | |||
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"I suspect I have seen working girls at a club before - I've seen the same girl with different guys on the occasions I attended. I have also seen single girls turn up late into the evening and it just raised my suspicion. That was at _tasia. Chams I have never seen it happen. But for me we would just avoid. I'm not going to fuck someone that is being paid to fuck Maybe she was single like myself and took different men, not really a shocker or it wouldn't make me think she's being paid " And also just because someone turns up late it raises you suscpucion!? Try opening your mind a little and think maybe other people work shifts of just prefer to go a little later not everyone is like you | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts Fun4two in Holland, possibly one of the best swingers clubs in the world, does a "Gigalo" night every month where women can pick from hired in "Dreamboat" type single guys. Don't know if the guys are "professional" or just good looking "amateurs". They go around with just shorts and a dicky bow tie on so the ladies can easily tell who they are. If you like them, you can have them ! We've never been, but I have sent in my "dreamboat" application form !!!! Along with another to Hugh Hefner to see if the Playboy Mansion needs a Handyman. (Unruly pubic hair my speciality) !!! John" Would that be Amsterdam? Going in December | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? 100% this would never be the case at _tasia' no way would paul want it or let it happen" I've been once, had an issue that Paul dealt with, can't see him allowing anything dodgy, lovely gentlemen. | |||
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"In the interests of equality, I think there should be a club night for women to go to where there would be hosts Fun4two in Holland, possibly one of the best swingers clubs in the world, does a "Gigalo" night every month where women can pick from hired in "Dreamboat" type single guys. Don't know if the guys are "professional" or just good looking "amateurs". They go around with just shorts and a dicky bow tie on so the ladies can easily tell who they are. If you like them, you can have them ! We've never been, but I have sent in my "dreamboat" application form !!!! Along with another to Hugh Hefner to see if the Playboy Mansion needs a Handyman. (Unruly pubic hair my speciality) !!! John Would that be Amsterdam? Going in December " It's not in Amsterdam, it's near a town called Gouda. Fun4two is a great club, but if your planning a Friday night there check their website to see which event is on. Gouda is worth a look around as well. | |||
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"It seems like that in our most local club but their re_iews are good so best of luck to them " Good point, lets say there was working girls in clubs, would she take one for the team to get good re_iews for the club? | |||
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"It seems like that in our most local club but their re_iews are good so best of luck to them Good point, lets say there was working girls in clubs, would she take one for the team to get good re_iews for the club?" Not sure tbh shag but they fill the meets section ,we visited their website and the girls get 25% of door takings but guys seem happy so live and let live | |||
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"It seems like that in our most local club but their re_iews are good so best of luck to them Good point, lets say there was working girls in clubs, would she take one for the team to get good re_iews for the club?Not sure tbh shag but they fill the meets section ,we visited their website and the girls get 25% of door takings but guys seem happy so live and let live " Is that the club that claims to be the Uks only couples swinging club but only ever puts up meets for "their girls" and aimed at single guys with no membership who need to email for "costs" and "details" ???... xx | |||
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"It seems like that in our most local club but their re_iews are good so best of luck to them Good point, lets say there was working girls in clubs, would she take one for the team to get good re_iews for the club?Not sure tbh shag but they fill the meets section ,we visited their website and the girls get 25% of door takings but guys seem happy so live and let live Is that the club that claims to be the Uks only couples swinging club but only ever puts up meets for "their girls" and aimed at single guys with no membership who need to email for "costs" and "details" ???... xx" Not wanting to name and good luck to them tbh but I think you ve guessed it lol | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " Never been to such clubs would it matter if they are sex workers? At least the men paying to go into the clubs are guaranteed sex which I assume that's why they are going to them? | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine " And? So? Whats your point? I work in a sex club, I have no shame in saying, everybody who knows me knows anyway Not sure what you mean by I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine Does that mean because I work in a sex club I'm not allowed in fab to meet men of my choice in my own time? Or that I'm neither a nice or genuine person Explain yourself sir | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine And? So? Whats your point? I work in a sex club, I have no shame in saying, everybody who knows me knows anyway Not sure what you mean by I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine Does that mean because I work in a sex club I'm not allowed in fab to meet men of my choice in my own time? Or that I'm neither a nice or genuine person Explain yourself sir " | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 21/08/16 15:14:10]" Working girls offer a great service we think some single guys instead of slagging them off should take advantage tbh and get their arse to clubs but a lot on here are just tightwads | |||
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"It seems like that in our most local club but their re_iews are good so best of luck to them Good point, lets say there was working girls in clubs, would she take one for the team to get good re_iews for the club?Not sure tbh shag but they fill the meets section ,we visited their website and the girls get 25% of door takings but guys seem happy so live and let live Is that the club that claims to be the Uks only couples swinging club but only ever puts up meets for "their girls" and aimed at single guys with no membership who need to email for "costs" and "details" ???... xxNot wanting to name and good luck to them tbh but I think you ve guessed it lol" I think I would only go there if I had died in battle | |||
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"I guess it goes on. Best ask the club direct would it bother you to know that someone you might meet off here is a "working girl" I personally wouldn't be happy with it tbh " Ahh bollocks and I was just about to mail you for a meet | |||
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"There is at least one club in the West Midlands who are quite open about advertising the presence of "hostesses". We recently met a couple at another club and they had spent the afternoon at the afore mentioned club. The lady claimed she had made quite a lot of money from in total 7 guys (clients)during the course of the afternoon/early evening. She told us that the club were well aware of her activities and actually held the payments on her behalf, until she and her husband left. She alledged that she and her partner made the trip up from London at least once a month. We were not sure how much of her story was true and how much was boasting, but from what other people have said about that club we feel that it could be true. The question is. Does a swingers club become a brothel as soon as payments are made?" As long as they allow couples etc to attend with swinging in mind we don't see a problem afterall some single guys at other clubs complain they get no action so to speak | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Never been to such clubs would it matter if they are sex workers? At least the men paying to go into the clubs are guaranteed sex which I assume that's why they are going to them? " So men go to clubs to be guaranteed sex? I was under the impression that they go somewhere else if they want guarantees. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " They pop up everywhere. Sometimes it's well known but ignored sometimes they trick. As long as your brain aint in your balls or aint turned on with paying regardless what the offer is then it's quite easy to give them the spanish archer. Dont insult them too much tho as some are good at getting you kicked outta the venue/party. | |||
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"It probably does happen like that. Doesn't particularly bother me. Live and let live and all that. We certainly got that impression a while back when we visited Utopia back in the noughties. Also there is a club in Brum where my guess is they sail very close to the wind with regards that type of thing going on. Not a place I would frequent but maybe when I am in my 70s eh LOL. Wahey. " yotopia. Yea. I had some great times there. But played with couples, no working girls there that I noticed | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The term hostess can be used lightly. I host events and could be classed as a hostess but I don't get paid to have sex with people and if I play I chose who I play with x" This is the point I was going to make. The only type of hostesses we have come across are those that arrange and advertise events for clubs, then on the night they meet and greet at the door and ensure everyone is having a good time within the social areas of the club. Both Spicey and Scarlett fall into thus category. We also know a few ladies who "work" who also attend clubs, but not one of them is attending to find "clients", they are there to relax and just have fun and IF they swing they appear to be the most choosy, as is their right! But they certainly aren't charging, in fact they pay their entry fee like everyone else! | |||
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"It probably does happen like that. Doesn't particularly bother me. Live and let live and all that. We certainly got that impression a while back when we visited Utopia back in the noughties. Also there is a club in Brum where my guess is they sail very close to the wind with regards that type of thing going on. Not a place I would frequent but maybe when I am in my 70s eh LOL. Wahey. yotopia. Yea. I had some great times there. But played with couples, no working girls there that I noticed " I suspect he was referring to the Private Club and/or R3tro. Both of which are quite open that they have employed some ladies for the nights that they put on. Never been but I guess some single ladies and couples go along as well because they want a lot of guys to play with. But the attraction is supposed to be 2 or 3 ladies that will definitely play with single guys. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " Another Reason I Don't go to swinging clubs now the guys complain to Me and staff when I don't want to have sex with them and say they've paid for sex!!!Every guy doesn't appeal to Me and I ain't being Exploited!!! . | |||
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"Does it matter if they are a brothel or not. It's just semantics. Doesn't this go down to the knub of the matter of the law in the UK and how much of an Ass it is. These clubs are providing a safe, probably non coerced place for consenting adults to have a bit of fun. I can't see the harm in it myself. Live and let live." | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The term hostess can be used lightly. I host events and could be classed as a hostess but I don't get paid to have sex with people and if I play I chose who I play with x This is the point I was going to make. The only type of hostesses we have come across are those that arrange and advertise events for clubs, then on the night they meet and greet at the door and ensure everyone is having a good time within the social areas of the club. Both Spicey and Scarlett fall into thus category. ... " Are they the names of club events? It's not me. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Another Reason I Don't go to swinging clubs now the guys complain to Me and staff when I don't want to have sex with them and say they've paid for sex!!!Every guy doesn't appeal to Me and I ain't being Exploited!!! ." Jesus what club are you going to? Never heard this before! Only complaint we've ever heard was a lady (for want of a better word) complaining that some men wouldn't fuck her and there men's primary function in a club was to service the ladies! | |||
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"Does it matter if they are a brothel or not. It's just semantics. Doesn't this go down to the knub of the matter of the law in the UK and how much of an Ass it is. These clubs are providing a safe, probably non coerced place for consenting adults to have a bit of fun. I can't see the harm in it myself. Live and let live. " More Confirmation for Me to Keep Out and Away from So-Called Swinging clubs!!! . | |||
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"Does it matter if they are a brothel or not. It's just semantics. Doesn't this go down to the knub of the matter of the law in the UK and how much of an Ass it is. These clubs are providing a safe, probably non coerced place for consenting adults to have a bit of fun. I can't see the harm in it myself. Live and let live. More Confirmation for Me to Keep Out and Away from So-Called Swinging clubs!!! ." Why are you on a swinging site if it upsets you to your core? | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Another Reason I Don't go to swinging clubs now the guys complain to Me and staff when I don't want to have sex with them and say they've paid for sex!!!Every guy doesn't appeal to Me and I ain't being Exploited!!! . Jesus what club are you going to? Never heard this before! Only complaint we've ever heard was a lady (for want of a better word) complaining that some men wouldn't fuck her and there men's primary function in a club was to service the ladies! " Clubs in and out of Manchester I know for a fact that most swinging clubs ain't just swinging clubs!!!I've been asked by some staff members themselves!!!!!! . | |||
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"Does it matter if they are a brothel or not. It's just semantics. Doesn't this go down to the knub of the matter of the law in the UK and how much of an Ass it is. These clubs are providing a safe, probably non coerced place for consenting adults to have a bit of fun. I can't see the harm in it myself. Live and let live. More Confirmation for Me to Keep Out and Away from So-Called Swinging clubs!!! . Why are you on a swinging site if it upsets you to your core?" Because fab Ain't a swinging club and I'll stay on Fab as much as I want Nothing to do with you! . | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " OP you have opened a can of worms with this post all I can tell you is this. i know for a fact of at least one club that employs girls in this fashion does that mean girls who admit to being regular club goers on this site are involved in any such deal NO but if you want single guys coming back its best to give them something for there dues don't you think . this is one of the many reasons a don't like or go to clubs as single man although i have chaperoned and played with a partner in them in the past. | |||
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"Does it matter if they are a brothel or not. It's just semantics. Doesn't this go down to the knub of the matter of the law in the UK and how much of an Ass it is. These clubs are providing a safe, probably non coerced place for consenting adults to have a bit of fun. I can't see the harm in it myself. Live and let live." Does that not go against the whole ethos of swinging, surely brothels and swinging clubs are totally different places of worship and as such should never be together, however that should not stop anyone, whatever their profession maybe enjoying the swinging lifestyle. If I have this wrong then please accept my apologies | |||
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"the problem with this thread is there are lots of people making allegations about lots of clubs but not naming them....which legally is very sticky ground.... and you could get the owners of the site into huge trouble..." think thats the point of this some on fab advertize female gona do a gangbang friday [or any day] will be at such and such a club .of course there is allways a entry fee .if you offered the same couple a room at your house they would not except .as they work with club to get punters in. | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . " amen brother we will drink to that statement .it happens daily so guys must be happy to go with the situation. | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . " I can't understand how the transaction is fake. Surely the woman would set out the terms, the man agrees or disagrees and walks away. If men are going to these clubs (who don't hide what they are they are SEX clubs not swingers clubs) and crying cohesion then they either haven't read the website details or are dumb beyond belief. | |||
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" So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . " Please get your wording right - what you're talking about is a sex club not a swinging club so this doesn't go against the ethos of wife swapping and swinging. Swinging clubs that I go to (and I've been to at least half a dozen in the UK), none of them pay single ladies to coerce anyone - not only are ladies not paid, we pay our entrance fees to get on like everyone else! This is at a lower fee than guys (the old supply and demand argument) but we're still paying to go and not paid. | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " I've been asked a few times by staff at some swingers clubs if I'd work for them to bring in the guys/money!!! I politely Declined and is "Another" Reason from many why I Don't go to swinging clubs now . | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " My thoughts... You're going to the club for sex ... Wether the girl is paid to work there or not you pay your money you get a fun time. Surely that's gotta be better than going to a club paying a load of money to get in and then not hooking up with someone? | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? " Ha I wish someone would offer me money I could do with a new pair of Louboutins LOL | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . I can't understand how the transaction is fake. Surely the woman would set out the terms, the man agrees or disagrees and walks away. If men are going to these clubs (who don't hide what they are they are SEX clubs not swingers clubs) and crying cohesion then they either haven't read the website details or are dumb beyond belief." I'm not talking about sex clubs I'm talking about swinger clubs where single ferns are used to coerce guys into attending based on the assumption that the woman they have talking to is interested in meeting them purely because she has enjoyed the banter during there chats when in truth she is paid to chat guys into attending said swinger club on said night and receives a payment pre client she brings in . If you think this doesn't happen you a ether burying your head in the sand or in denial of how some clubs work . As for prostitution its a job the girls have no interest in the guys past the money yes a good prostitute hides that fact very well as its in her best interests to do that but the reality is its a job to them nothing more nothing less and for me that means I'm not interested in the illusion they pedal because I know its a illusion a cold business transaction . Each to there own that doesn't work for me its a turn off not a turn on but for some guys it works each to there own but for me and how I _iew sex and myself as a man it doesn't work . Oh and if you think i don't know what I'm talking about sadly you are very much mistaken I have been privileged to hear conversations between prostitutes in a brothel long story work related and also hear private conversations between a swinger club owner and some regular ferns who attended certain nights and events again long story work related . I put it to you like this do you thing porn is real or a job for those who are paid to perform in front of the camera its a job a job they may enjoy but still a job which makes all porn apart from true amateur porn fake all the ohhhs and arhhhs in paid porn are fake . Paid porn is a illusion prostitution is about selling a illusion and girls who coerce guys into attending a swinging club or club events because they are paid to do so are also pedalling a illusion to the guys now that's OK if your open about all the facts and the guys OK with that but if you omit certain facts your coercing and tricking unsuspecting guys which in my book is wrong . For that reason I don't attend clubs a a single guy although I have and do attend now and again as part of a play couple and by the way when I do attend in that capacity we don't pretend to be married we state to any who ask we are friends who swing together . | |||
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"Some clubs have no 'single guy limit', and at times this could create a 8:1 or worse male:female ratio, this can create a lot of predatory behaviour, wherever the lone female goes 3-4 men will follow her, this can be creepy and distressing. if it happens too much then the club risks losing a single girl/couple as future customers. If there is a working girl who's there to 'accommodate' a few of the less than desirable or unlucky guys. Then she is actually acting as a distraction to divert unwanted attention away from other females, so they can enjoy the club in peace, free from predators and harassment. I would actually say this is a sensible business tactic, happy customers, more customers, more money. As long as the money only passes from the club to the accommodating girl, there only to entertain a few unlucky single guys, she is good for business, so that's fine. She however shouldn't be touting for tricks inside the club. No demands for money from club customers. " I Don't go to swinging clubs because most people are greedy they want to make money and have sex with everyone some clubs don't limit single guys or have couples only nights! I only went to swingers clubs because I "WAS" a Genuine Swinger at that time,swinging club scene has changed too much for Me and a few club owners are getting Sex confused/mixed up with making money! If I was single I'd only meet with Genuine Swingers and Avoid any swingers clubs at all Costs! . | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . " Coerce persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. obtain (something) from someone by using force or threats. How exactly are these women forcing these poor innocent and unsuspecting men? | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Coerce persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. obtain (something) from someone by using force or threats. How exactly are these women forcing these poor innocent and unsuspecting men? " Semantics the word persuade dear god woman do you really think you need force to coerce someone into something no its possible to coerce with out the use of threats or force con man do it all the time with out using ether . Dear god nothing worse than those who blindly read a dictionary when it come to a discussion. | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Coerce persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. obtain (something) from someone by using force or threats. How exactly are these women forcing these poor innocent and unsuspecting men? Semantics the word persuade dear god woman do you really think you need force to coerce someone into something no its possible to coerce with out the use of threats or force con man do it all the time with out using ether . Dear god nothing worse than those who blindly read a dictionary when it come to a discussion. " worse than someone who misappropriates a word with a much stronger meaning in order to try and make a point in a discussion then patronises the person who calls them out on it...? | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Coerce persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. obtain (something) from someone by using force or threats. How exactly are these women forcing these poor innocent and unsuspecting men? Semantics the word persuade dear god woman do you really think you need force to coerce someone into something no its possible to coerce with out the use of threats or force con man do it all the time with out using ether . Dear god nothing worse than those who blindly read a dictionary when it come to a discussion. worse than someone who misappropriates a word with a much stronger meaning in order to try and make a point in a discussion then patronises the person who calls them out on it...?" Err not the word is not to strong in a court of law a con man who by the use of charm and the omitting of facts to con someone out of money is considered to have coerced there victim with false promises and facts . | |||
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" I Don't go to swinging clubs because most people are greedy they want to make money and have sex with everyone some clubs don't limit single guys or have couples only nights! I only went to swingers clubs because I "WAS" a Genuine Swinger at that time,swinging club scene has changed too much for Me and a few club owners are getting Sex confused/mixed up with making money! If I was single I'd only meet with Genuine Swingers and Avoid any swingers clubs at all Costs! ." Like all businesses, clubs need to make a profit, the running costs of a jacuzzi and steamroomare massive, many clubs are on the point of needing to fit three phase industrial electricity supplies to cope with their power requirements. unfortunately treating the single guy as a 'cash cow' seems to be common practice to at least cover the electric bill, there are notable exceptions to this rule but there are very few of them. Having an 'accomadating' employee makes good sense. You need a non predatory, harassment free and comfortable experience. So the single girl and couples remain loyal customers, it's the pushy single guys that drive away many of these valuable customers. Sad truth is single guys are a valuable source of income, but are sometimes exploited for cash and earn themselves a bad reputation. I see the working girl as a possible win:win solution. Happy single guys, less harassment, happy couples and single girls, faithful customers and more revenue for the club. I call that a good investment | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Coerce persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats. obtain (something) from someone by using force or threats. How exactly are these women forcing these poor innocent and unsuspecting men? Semantics the word persuade dear god woman do you really think you need force to coerce someone into something no its possible to coerce with out the use of threats or force con man do it all the time with out using ether . Dear god nothing worse than those who blindly read a dictionary when it come to a discussion. worse than someone who misappropriates a word with a much stronger meaning in order to try and make a point in a discussion then patronises the person who calls them out on it...? Err not the word is not to strong in a court of law a con man who by the use of charm and the omitting of facts to con someone out of money is considered to have coerced there victim with false promises and facts . " Someone has a bee in their bonnet. There is difference between fraud and coercion, but the point you are trying to make is the men have no choice in their decision. However, the cost of such event would make most reasonable men know what is going on and l suspect all who visit pay the money happily. However, what goes on at such events are at the margins of swinging. The biggest issue is not women charging for sex but men attending swinging clubs expecting sex because they paid to get in and harassing the women. I know some women harrass men but suspect it is minority. | |||
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" I Don't go to swinging clubs because most people are greedy they want to make money and have sex with everyone some clubs don't limit single guys or have couples only nights! I only went to swingers clubs because I "WAS" a Genuine Swinger at that time,swinging club scene has changed too much for Me and a few club owners are getting Sex confused/mixed up with making money! If I was single I'd only meet with Genuine Swingers and Avoid any swingers clubs at all Costs! . Like all businesses, clubs need to make a profit, the running costs of a jacuzzi and steamroomare massive, many clubs are on the point of needing to fit three phase industrial electricity supplies to cope with their power requirements. unfortunately treating the single guy as a 'cash cow' seems to be common practice to at least cover the electric bill, there are notable exceptions to this rule but there are very few of them. Having an 'accomadating' employee makes good sense. You need a non predatory, harassment free and comfortable experience. So the single girl and couples remain loyal customers, it's the pushy single guys that drive away many of these valuable customers. Sad truth is single guys are a valuable source of income, but are sometimes exploited for cash and earn themselves a bad reputation. I see the working girl as a possible win:win solution. Happy single guys, less harassment, happy couples and single girls, faithful customers and more revenue for the club. I call that a good investment " | |||
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"I've never seen it at swingers clubs but have heard it happens at sex clubs " Agreed. Sex clubs are a whole different set up and working girls are definitely part of the scene. | |||
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" I Don't go to swinging clubs because most people are greedy they want to make money and have sex with everyone some clubs don't limit single guys or have couples only nights! I only went to swingers clubs because I "WAS" a Genuine Swinger at that time,swinging club scene has changed too much for Me and a few club owners are getting Sex confused/mixed up with making money! If I was single I'd only meet with Genuine Swingers and Avoid any swingers clubs at all Costs! . Like all businesses, clubs need to make a profit, the running costs of a jacuzzi and steamroomare massive, many clubs are on the point of needing to fit three phase industrial electricity supplies to cope with their power requirements. unfortunately treating the single guy as a 'cash cow' seems to be common practice to at least cover the electric bill, there are notable exceptions to this rule but there are very few of them. Having an 'accomadating' employee makes good sense. You need a non predatory, harassment free and comfortable experience. So the single girl and couples remain loyal customers, it's the pushy single guys that drive away many of these valuable customers. Sad truth is single guys are a valuable source of income, but are sometimes exploited for cash and earn themselves a bad reputation. I see the working girl as a possible win:win solution. Happy single guys, less harassment, happy couples and single girls, faithful customers and more revenue for the club. I call that a good investment " Hell No!!!!! I've Personally been asked to work for swinging clubs as a Sex Worker the facts they have to pay for everything is nothing to do with Me if Swing club owners can't Afford all the Tax and other bill's with functioning a swing club properly they "SHOULDN'T" be in the Business Period!!!! !!!!!!!! | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . " Personally I think your over thinking what women want in clubs Granted I can't speak for all women but I think a lot of women who go to clubs are not interested in men as a man but are after sex, I know lots of women who will have sex with men in clubs, don't ask their names, don't want their number or what to keep contact after etc same as a lot of guys have no real interest in the woman just her body I work in a sex club, I also go to swingers clubs where I do not get paid but go for my own pleasure in my own time The only difference between the two is in a swingers club I can have one in one in a private room should I choose to, in the club I work in everything's open play, I _iew the guys in both clubs the same, if I don't like somebody I will not play with them in either club I know people have a dim _iew of sex clubs but in my experience they are not dirty, seedy places where the women will fuck anything and everything, and I certainly do not force anybody to have sex with me under false pretences | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Personally I think your over thinking what women want in clubs Granted I can't speak for all women but I think a lot of women who go to clubs are not interested in men as a man but are after sex, I know lots of women who will have sex with men in clubs, don't ask their names, don't want their number or what to keep contact after etc same as a lot of guys have no real interest in the woman just her body I work in a sex club, I also go to swingers clubs where I do not get paid but go for my own pleasure in my own time The only difference between the two is in a swingers club I can have one in one in a private room should I choose to, in the club I work in everything's open play, I _iew the guys in both clubs the same, if I don't like somebody I will not play with them in either club I know people have a dim _iew of sex clubs but in my experience they are not dirty, seedy places where the women will fuck anything and everything, and I certainly do not force anybody to have sex with me under false pretences " Just out of pure curiosity and you can tell me to mind my own. Do you have sex with men while you working at the club that you wouldn't if you were at a swingers club ? | |||
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"This is a interesting topic I have nothing against a working girl making a living but I have no interest in using one for my kicks because its a business transaction and there fore fake . I am only interested in sleeping with someone who wants to sleep with me for the person I am not the money I offer. So coming from that starting point doesn't a swinging club that pays single ferns to promote events and use their charms to coerce single guys through the doors become fake . I use the word coerce because if your not above board about what's going on and omitting certain facts from those you wish to attract you are coercing them into a situation they may not wish to be involved in . As they are thinking they are going there to meet a single fern who is genuinely interested in them as a man when in fact she is coercing them there on the behalf of the club for its and hers financial gain . Which in my opinion goes against the true ethos of wife swapping and swinging in general in my opinion . Personally I think your over thinking what women want in clubs Granted I can't speak for all women but I think a lot of women who go to clubs are not interested in men as a man but are after sex, I know lots of women who will have sex with men in clubs, don't ask their names, don't want their number or what to keep contact after etc same as a lot of guys have no real interest in the woman just her body I work in a sex club, I also go to swingers clubs where I do not get paid but go for my own pleasure in my own time The only difference between the two is in a swingers club I can have one in one in a private room should I choose to, in the club I work in everything's open play, I _iew the guys in both clubs the same, if I don't like somebody I will not play with them in either club I know people have a dim _iew of sex clubs but in my experience they are not dirty, seedy places where the women will fuck anything and everything, and I certainly do not force anybody to have sex with me under false pretences " i don't think sex clubs are seedy places at all my work proves that fact but sex for money is a profession. yes it maybe pleasurable but its fake i could hire a twenty something stunner for a couple of hours fun for lets say three to five hundred pounds who wouldn't give me a second look in the street or a bunk up without the money changing hands .that makes the sex fake all the groans moans everything fake in my book and for that very simple reason to me its a turn off in my book . but hay thank god us men are not all like unwise the oldest profession in the world would die out . i have no problem with a fern using her charms to attract paying single men to clubs as long as the guys know that's what is going on nor do i have a problem with sex workers their life their choice . sex worker or nun it matters not to me both would be shown the same level of respect by me . | |||
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" Just out of pure curiosity and you can tell me to mind my own. Do you have sex with men while you working at the club that you wouldn't if you were at a swingers club ?" Honest answer to that yes So long as the guys in the club I work at are clean and respectful I will play with them as a rule I have turned down a few guys though who I just physically couldn't play with because the lack of attraction was so bad I have on occasions bumped into guys at clubs like chameleons who I've played with in the club i work at and they have thought I was a sure shag but I've turned them down, mainly for being presumptuous, I hate it when guys think because I work in a sex club I will shag anybody, I wont and if you approach me in a swingers club or party and just assume your getting a fuck you won't When I'm in my own time I expect to be treated the same as every other woman because I am just a normal every day woman | |||
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" i don't think sex clubs are seedy places at all my work proves that fact but sex for money is a profession.yes it maybe pleasurable but its fake i could hire a twenty something stunner for a couple of hours fun for lets say three to five hundred pounds who wouldn't give me a second look in the street or a bunk up without the money changing hands .that makes the sex fake all the groans moans everything fake in my book and for that very simple reason to me its a turn off in my book ." I think it depends on the girl, yes lots do do it just for the money but I personally don't I have a full time well paid job, working at the club is just a side line, when I started going I was just a customer, it was the only local club that didn't do a couples night in a Saturday so I used to go there, I never went with any intentions of working there, to be totally honest I never dreamed in a million years any club would want me working there, im not exactly what you would call a catch But after going half a dozen times the owner asked me if I wanted some date and I thought......do you know what why not, I'm coming here anyway I may as well get paid for what I'm giving away for free I actually enjoy working there I wouldn't be there if I didn't I'm not saying that goes for all working girls but not all are fake | |||
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" i don't think sex clubs are seedy places at all my work proves that fact but sex for money is a profession.yes it maybe pleasurable but its fake i could hire a twenty something stunner for a couple of hours fun for lets say three to five hundred pounds who wouldn't give me a second look in the street or a bunk up without the money changing hands .that makes the sex fake all the groans moans everything fake in my book and for that very simple reason to me its a turn off in my book . I think it depends on the girl, yes lots do do it just for the money but I personally don't I have a full time well paid job, working at the club is just a side line, when I started going I was just a customer, it was the only local club that didn't do a couples night in a Saturday so I used to go there, I never went with any intentions of working there, to be totally honest I never dreamed in a million years any club would want me working there, im not exactly what you would call a catch But after going half a dozen times the owner asked me if I wanted some date and I thought......do you know what why not, I'm coming here anyway I may as well get paid for what I'm giving away for free I actually enjoy working there I wouldn't be there if I didn't I'm not saying that goes for all working girls but not all are fake " I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. And for the record I would date a sex worker because in my eyes its just a job like any other plus I believe prostitution should be legalized for a verity of reasons one being the protection of those who choose to make it there profession.. | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. " If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do " It's refreshing to hear another perspective, do you recognise a difference between a sex club with paid girls and swingers clubs ? | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do " Stupid man my guess is you turn him down at some point and that is his pathetic attempts at getting even . The world is full of people who assume it is what it is as long as you know the truth and you are true to yourself they can assume all they want because assuming something doesn't make it true and if they think it does then they really do have a lot of growing up to do in my opinion . | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do It's refreshing to hear another perspective, do you recognise a difference between a sex club with paid girls and swingers clubs ?" I feel a little insulted by that question, do I come over as being a dim whit | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do It's refreshing to hear another perspective, do you recognise a difference between a sex club with paid girls and swingers clubs ? I feel a little insulted by that question, do I come over as being a dim whit " No you certainly do not and I certainly meant you no offence. I do believe there is some confusion on this thread though. How I define the differences between clubs is if there are any people at a club that are paid to have sex I call it a sex club, if there is no one paid to have sex I call it a swingers club. All I wondered if that is how you see it ? | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do " How I d love the opportunity to explain reality to that man | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do It's refreshing to hear another perspective, do you recognise a difference between a sex club with paid girls and swingers clubs ? I feel a little insulted by that question, do I come over as being a dim whit No you certainly do not and I certainly meant you no offence. I do believe there is some confusion on this thread though. How I define the differences between clubs is if there are any people at a club that are paid to have sex I call it a sex club, if there is no one paid to have sex I call it a swingers club. All I wondered if that is how you see it ?" Yeah that about sums it up for me too The club i work in does have female customers too, not loads but they come, last Saturday there were four couples in who only played amongst themselves We get single females in too The best thing about women like me being there is it takes the harassment away from the other women So though it's a sex club I guess you can say swinging happens in there too I go when I'm not working sometimes for sex, if I'm not getting paid is that swinging in a sex club? Food for thought | |||
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" I do admire your honesty and its does you proud as a human being just hope no fuckwits give you hassle after reading this post. If they do its nothing I can't handle I've had people try to get me kicked out of clubs before and alsorts, one guy who goes to chameleons constantly goes round telling other guys to keep away from me when I go because I'm a whore Because people can't accept that because you are an escort or work in a club you actually give it away for free I've never gone into a swinging club and charged and I certainly don't look for work in here, but people just assume you do well because that's what you do It's refreshing to hear another perspective, do you recognise a difference between a sex club with paid girls and swingers clubs ? I feel a little insulted by that question, do I come over as being a dim whit No you certainly do not and I certainly meant you no offence. I do believe there is some confusion on this thread though. How I define the differences between clubs is if there are any people at a club that are paid to have sex I call it a sex club, if there is no one paid to have sex I call it a swingers club. All I wondered if that is how you see it ? Yeah that about sums it up for me too The club i work in does have female customers too, not loads but they come, last Saturday there were four couples in who only played amongst themselves We get single females in too The best thing about women like me being there is it takes the harassment away from the other women So though it's a sex club I guess you can say swinging happens in there too I go when I'm not working sometimes for sex, if I'm not getting paid is that swinging in a sex club? Food for thought " | |||
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"Thinking about it, I can't see many clubs being prepared to pay the rates. I mean the going rate for a working girl is around £100 P/h on average. To pay a WG for 2 hours, let alone the full night, at say for example the entrance price to Quest, you would need 20 couples. The maths just doesn't add up" Maybe they do group discounts? | |||
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"Thinking about it, I can't see many clubs being prepared to pay the rates. I mean the going rate for a working girl is around £100 P/h on average. To pay a WG for 2 hours, let alone the full night, at say for example the entrance price to Quest, you would need 20 couples. The maths just doesn't add up" The deal seems to be a percentage of take on the door | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? " Just paying to go to a party is classed as immoral earnings for the hosts so by swinging & paying to go in clubs / parties, we are all contributing to the sex industry which swinging is now a major part of. Unless it effects you mate let it go over your head & enjoy yourself lol. | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. " | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. " The guy in question was a dick a complete dick look as I've said in this post before paying for sex is not my thing does that mean I have a problem with a girl who chooses to offer such a service no as long as its all above board and safe for them who cares . Are they suddenly a bad person because of there job no . My whole argument was based around false behavior basically the tricking of unsuspecting men . Look not all men are just looking to get their balls emptied only , some are looking for respect friendship good banter to go along with that .. For that they will need total above board honesty from those they are interested in just like any woman looking for the same will need . My earlier posts talk about behavior that is not above board centered around single ferns and the swinging club dynamic . | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. " We are on the same site and did it when desperate ,we feel exactly the same as you and like you we ve been spotted on here .Lots of guys prepared to use whatever site as long as it serves what they want is the way we look at it ,we both now have good careers but we fully understand anyway in the sex industry and the dangers involved | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. The guy in question was a dick a complete dick look as I've said in this post before paying for sex is not my thing does that mean I have a problem with a girl who chooses to offer such a service no as long as its all above board and safe for them who cares . Are they suddenly a bad person because of there job no . My whole argument was based around false behavior basically the tricking of unsuspecting men . Look not all men are just looking to get their balls emptied only , some are looking for respect friendship good banter to go along with that .. For that they will need total above board honesty from those they are interested in just like any woman looking for the same will need . My earlier posts talk about behavior that is not above board centered around single ferns and the swinging club dynamic . " That happened to someone I met and he complained. They apologised and gave him his money back. | |||
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"Thinking about it, I can't see many clubs being prepared to pay the rates. I mean the going rate for a working girl is around £100 P/h on average. To pay a WG for 2 hours, let alone the full night, at say for example the entrance price to Quest, you would need 20 couples. The maths just doesn't add up" They aren't there for the couples,they are there for the single men who pay a lot to get in,to keep them coming back. Same with events run by groups of women,if they weren't having sex with the men who attended no one would come would they. I wouldn't keep paying to watch the pretty,young women fuck the men week after week. Men pay to get in because they know these women are being paid to fuck them. Or they don't know and are none the wiser. | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. The guy in question was a dick a complete dick look as I've said in this post before paying for sex is not my thing does that mean I have a problem with a girl who chooses to offer such a service no as long as its all above board and safe for them who cares . Are they suddenly a bad person because of there job no . My whole argument was based around false behavior basically the tricking of unsuspecting men . Look not all men are just looking to get their balls emptied only , some are looking for respect friendship good banter to go along with that .. For that they will need total above board honesty from those they are interested in just like any woman looking for the same will need . My earlier posts talk about behavior that is not above board centered around single ferns and the swinging club dynamic . That happened to someone I met and he complained. They apologised and gave him his money back. " Everyones entitled to an opinion our concern is the meets section is being filled up on this site by people having sex for financial reward,as previously said we ve done it but there are other sites for that not fabswingers | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. The guy in question was a dick a complete dick look as I've said in this post before paying for sex is not my thing does that mean I have a problem with a girl who chooses to offer such a service no as long as its all above board and safe for them who cares . Are they suddenly a bad person because of there job no . My whole argument was based around false behavior basically the tricking of unsuspecting men . Look not all men are just looking to get their balls emptied only , some are looking for respect friendship good banter to go along with that .. For that they will need total above board honesty from those they are interested in just like any woman looking for the same will need . My earlier posts talk about behavior that is not above board centered around single ferns and the swinging club dynamic . That happened to someone I met and he complained. They apologised and gave him his money back. Everyones entitled to an opinion our concern is the meets section is being filled up on this site by people having sex for financial reward,as previously said we ve done it but there are other sites for that not fabswingers " I never look at the meet section of the site as I have no need to so I can't really comment on what's happening there . If that is the case then really the site needs to crack down on that sort of thing as it really does go against the spirit of swinging wife swapping dogging the lot in my opinion . | |||
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"Big a working girl is a touchy subject at the best of times and will always have different opinions. I have never encountered any at singers clubs but have at sex as mentioned. As a single girl having working girls at a sex club doesn't bother me as it keeps the sleez away from me. I was previously on an escort site due to personal circumstances and needing a lot of money and fast. I was pushed into a corner and could think of no other way to get what I needed. I was picky with the guys I let hire me and I was very careful with my personal safety. Would I have done it if I wasn't so desperate for cash? No. Would I do it again if I needed to? Yes. I also would have gone to work in a club if I was asked to but I prefer to choose who when and where myself. It upset me that I got a message from a guy that first found me on the escorts site and was extremely offencive. We are on the same site and did it when desperate ,we feel exactly the same as you and like you we ve been spotted on here .Lots of guys prepared to use whatever site as long as it serves what they want is the way we look at it ,we both now have good careers but we fully understand anyway in the sex industry and the dangers involved " | |||
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"The crux of the OP's comments stem from what is happening in the scene Sex clubs, gangbangs where everyone is aware of what they are buying into (girls getting paid) is fine What is creeping into the club scene is places running events such as Greedy girl nights where escorts are paid to work, advertise on there profile on fab "only meet at....." and hiding the fact they are paid by the club to attend the event and are escorts, thus convincing people to attend. How many people would be happy to know they had played with a lady whose sole purpose for attending an event was to earn money or in exchange for attending could use the clubs facilities to entertain paid clients when the club is closed? Not to have mutual fun with people! " Where is the line between getting paid for sex and getting paid for enticing people to a club where they may have sex. | |||
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" What is creeping into the club scene is places running events such as Greedy girl nights where escorts are paid to work, advertise on there profile on fab "only meet at....." and hiding the fact they are paid by the club to attend the event and are escorts, thus convincing people to attend. " I'm sorry... this is the entire problem i find with this thread.... it is all just allegations.... but no one is big enough or brave enough to stick their neck on the line (and their wallets) and have the balls to say exactly who they are alluding to... because if they did... they would possibly be up for slander... its all heresay.... its all rumour.... but other people have told me ect ect ect.... I only at this point in time tend to meet at clubs just because i find them a brilliant safe neutral venue... if i say that to a couple or a women am i going to be accused of promting business for a club? | |||
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"I thought swingers clubs are just for swingers but I've been informed that the girls are paid to sleep with the men who are charged to enter the building? So if the females are on here as a single....does that mean we are meeting "working girls" who are paid for sex to be at a club? Thoughts? Are you expressing the opinion that because a woman is on here as single that she is a working girl? noooo far from it! Of course not every single girl on here is a "working girl" I'm just saying I've heard some single females on here are "working at some clubs" most single females are nice and genuine The hostesses are paid to be an event, they can choose who they want to shag. Yes some are here as single women, but sex workers can swing in their spare time. so they are paid to be at a club to have sex? The term hostess can be used lightly. I host events and could be classed as a hostess but I don't get paid to have sex with people and if I play I chose who I play with x This is the point I was going to make. The only type of hostesses we have come across are those that arrange and advertise events for clubs, then on the night they meet and greet at the door and ensure everyone is having a good time within the social areas of the club. Both Spicey and Scarlett fall into thus category. ... Are they the names of club events? It's not me. " Different Scarlet, Scarlettx who posted a few posts before mine. | |||
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" What is creeping into the club scene is places running events such as Greedy girl nights where escorts are paid to work, advertise on there profile on fab "only meet at....." and hiding the fact they are paid by the club to attend the event and are escorts, thus convincing people to attend. I'm sorry... this is the entire problem i find with this thread.... it is all just allegations.... but no one is big enough or brave enough to stick their neck on the line (and their wallets) and have the balls to say exactly who they are alluding to... because if they did... they would possibly be up for slander... its all heresay.... its all rumour.... but other people have told me ect ect ect.... I only at this point in time tend to meet at clubs just because i find them a brilliant safe neutral venue... if i say that to a couple or a women am i going to be accused of promting business for a club?" It is nt an argument anyone wants but its plain enough to see if it should bother you | |||
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" What is creeping into the club scene is places running events such as Greedy girl nights where escorts are paid to work, advertise on there profile on fab "only meet at....." and hiding the fact they are paid by the club to attend the event and are escorts, thus convincing people to attend. I'm sorry... this is the entire problem i find with this thread.... it is all just allegations.... but no one is big enough or brave enough to stick their neck on the line (and their wallets) and have the balls to say exactly who they are alluding to... because if they did... they would possibly be up for slander... its all heresay.... its all rumour.... but other people have told me ect ect ect.... I only at this point in time tend to meet at clubs just because i find them a brilliant safe neutral venue... if i say that to a couple or a women am i going to be accused of promting business for a club?" Actually being ex club hosts it's not heresay or rumour! And you slightly miss the point of our post as we made no mention of regulars or others promoting a club, we are not accusing or trying to intimate any particular club we just know what we posted is happening at 2 clubs. It would serve no purpose naming & shaming on the forum | |||
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