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"A question aimed at you lovely ' single ' men who attend clubs . Are clubs getting a little to expensive ? After another visit to our favourite club on a friday night the attendance or rather lack of attendance of ' single' guys was very evident .Are you being put off by the rising costs or maybe something else ? " Coming from the experience of club meets with a fbuddy and speaking to many single blokes at the time. There are many factors. The lack of people wanting to play with single guys, waiting lists, membership and entry costs to refused entry in a "If your face fits" scenario. Pretty sad to be honest that these things are at play... Or rather a lack of. | |||
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"A question aimed at you lovely ' single ' men who attend clubs . Are clubs getting a little to expensive ? After another visit to our favourite club on a friday night the attendance or rather lack of attendance of ' single' guys was very evident .Are you being put off by the rising costs or maybe something else ? " Are you sure that the club doesn't limit the numbers of single guys that they allow in? | |||
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"The bad rep the masses of cpls/fems voice about single males on here isn't really promotional material. It's far from what's needed to attract decent singles to clubs. Saying that, I thought the clubs had masses of single males at them. Going on some single male posts in forums at times I thought we we're the bulk & bain of clubland as opposed to lesser spotted & needed Decent cpls meeting us singles socially/for fun outside of clubland have always appealed more to me. There's plenty of cpls meeting that way too " Maybe because the majority of single males on here and other sites make it an implausible challenge to most single fems and couples. Online it's fantasist material for guys wanting a quick cum and run scenario and get verbally aggressive when the word "No" is employed. Clubs are a different thing. I can see it deters the disrespectful single guys (as above). There is a very fine line which doesn't help at either end from twats to genuine. | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once" but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... | |||
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"Most clubs up here are about £20 a visit. " I wish it was that cheap in the West Midlands or London. Travelling is a bitch at times but works out the same after costs. | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems." We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least .... | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems. We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least ...." Sadly (and I do mean sadly), myself and my ex-FB used to suffer the foolish ploys of single straight males on Bi nights. It's a tactic of playing dress up to get their cock wet. They were often given their marching orders. | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... " I think it's pretty fucking appalling that guys can't just go along though. I never know until the night if I fancy going to a club, so I never book beforehand. I don't see why others should be forced to do so. What if you're not in the mood to go? Or what if you're suddenly in the mood to go? It sucks. And it's not fair at all. | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems. We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least .... Sadly (and I do mean sadly), myself and my ex-FB used to suffer the foolish ploys of single straight males on Bi nights. It's a tactic of playing dress up to get their cock wet. They were often given their marching orders." It's not really rocket science. If you're in any doubt then get the guys to start playing first. It's bi night - it shouldn't be that difficult for either party. If they won't, then you know you've got a straight guy, and can choose accordingly if you want to play. | |||
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"I have to say that from a legal point of view the clubs are discriminating against the Equality Act 2010 if anyone ever wanted to challenge prices. When the Act came in women could no longer claim cheaper car insurance. If anyone wanted to challenge. I do however think it would be fair to cap the quota in an evening of single guys to couples and ladies " Private members clubs are exempt from the equality act 2010 | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems. We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least .... Sadly (and I do mean sadly), myself and my ex-FB used to suffer the foolish ploys of single straight males on Bi nights. It's a tactic of playing dress up to get their cock wet. They were often given their marching orders. It's not really rocket science. If you're in any doubt then get the guys to start playing first. It's bi night - it shouldn't be that difficult for either party. If they won't, then you know you've got a straight guy, and can choose accordingly if you want to play." We always insist the guys play first ... straight guys usually easy to spot, not only do they make the beeline for pepper, but they also ask black cop if she can play ... assuming she has no opinion or choice in the matter and that she is sub ... wrong! | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... I think it's pretty fucking appalling that guys can't just go along though. I never know until the night if I fancy going to a club, so I never book beforehand. I don't see why others should be forced to do so. What if you're not in the mood to go? Or what if you're suddenly in the mood to go? It sucks. And it's not fair at all." not only that what happens if you book then suddenly cant go. Are you then blacklisted? | |||
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"I won't go to a club that restricts single male attendance. For one, it's bad enough they pay more, without having to go through a selection process. For another, club owners rarely allow the sort of guys I am interested in through their lottery." | |||
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"Those who enjoy meeting single men could always arrange to meet away from clubs or arrange their own events " Why? | |||
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"Those who enjoy meeting single men could always arrange to meet away from clubs or arrange their own events " Plenty of women like exhibitonism. Plenty of women feel safer at clubs. Plenty of women have no interest in organizing events. | |||
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"cheaper for a guy /couple to get a travellodge" Not as much choice at a Travelodge though .... too much pressure too | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems. We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least .... Sadly (and I do mean sadly), myself and my ex-FB used to suffer the foolish ploys of single straight males on Bi nights. It's a tactic of playing dress up to get their cock wet. They were often given their marching orders. It's not really rocket science. If you're in any doubt then get the guys to start playing first. It's bi night - it shouldn't be that difficult for either party. If they won't, then you know you've got a straight guy, and can choose accordingly if you want to play." You'd be surprised to the level these guys will go until they get into a locked room. Kiss, wank etc... As soon as your in a room and the door is locked - the process changes. And start the record from the first groove all over again... | |||
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"Those who enjoy meeting single men could always arrange to meet away from clubs or arrange their own events Plenty of women like exhibitonism. Plenty of women feel safer at clubs. Plenty of women have no interest in organizing events." A whole lot of truth there... | |||
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"There are clubs that do cater towards couples and singles and actually network their venues with promotion to attract that clientele. But that seems to be few and far between these days as many clubs just stick to what they know and what works out of personal preference. And Wasp_Hunter is right, a good number of venues limit the attendance of single males. Saying that, the problematic clubs are more fewer in numbers these days but there are still many of them. I just wish they'd limit the single males on bi nights as bi couples are used as a testing ground for those lonesome "straight" males who only want to play with fems. We look forward to bi nights as male bi experience is what we particularly look for, so why would we not want single males? We don't look for bi females on a bi night, we dont need to ... I think limiting single males n a bi night isn't a good idea. I think if they come to a bi night, they should be bi curious at least .... Sadly (and I do mean sadly), myself and my ex-FB used to suffer the foolish ploys of single straight males on Bi nights. It's a tactic of playing dress up to get their cock wet. They were often given their marching orders. It's not really rocket science. If you're in any doubt then get the guys to start playing first. It's bi night - it shouldn't be that difficult for either party. If they won't, then you know you've got a straight guy, and can choose accordingly if you want to play. You'd be surprised to the level these guys will go until they get into a locked room. Kiss, wank etc... As soon as your in a room and the door is locked - the process changes. And start the record from the first groove all over again..." We don't do locked rooms, not as a couple, Mr may go in with another man, but not me. I can quite easily tell a single guy, a couple or a single female I don't want to play, or scream the place down if they take it too far ... no worries about straight single guys here | |||
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" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. " no offence... but if that is the mental attitude of the single guys that aren't going to clubs..... then clubs can certainly do without that type of person.... I've see guys turn up and complain because there is "no action" and i just tell them if they want a guarentee then go to a brothel... and the fact you think a swinging club is akin to a brothel probably isn't helping chances either.. no all clubs charge the same on each night.... some nights are aimed at some more than others.... but it just feels like these threads just turn into one massive chip on the shoulder..... | |||
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"I would love to go to a club but the cost is the problem, especially if you do not meet anybody, as stated above "The lack of people wanting to play with single guys" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. " we spoke to four couples who were all looking for a guy or even two to join them the last time we went . But it amazes us that guys just dont want to introduce themselves in the bar areas but are quite happy to stand at the bottom / side of where we are playing and expect to join in ! If female half likes the look of a guy then we go over to them and say hi so it works both ways .we pay to get in pay for a hotel pay out for taxies so couples go to quite a bit of effort as well . | |||
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"I would love to go to a club but the cost is the problem, especially if you do not meet anybody, as stated above "The lack of people wanting to play with single guys" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. we spoke to four couples who were all looking for a guy or even two to join them the last time we went . But it amazes us that guys just dont want to introduce themselves in the bar areas but are quite happy to stand at the bottom / side of where we are playing and expect to join in ! If female half likes the look of a guy then we go over to them and say hi so it works both ways .we pay to get in pay for a hotel pay out for taxies so couples go to quite a bit of effort as well . " That's not including the effort us women go to with new outfit including undies, hair, make up, nails, grooming, etc! On occassion it would be nice for single guys to interact with others rather than just stand around with their cocks hanging out hoping u will play or suck it, then if it does happen just wander off like nothing happened! Just my personal opinion here (Miss N) | |||
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"The last time I went to a club I paid £40 to get in. It was empty by midnight and I didn't get to chat to anyone... I think it's a bit steep and has put me off going again unless I plan to meet someone there. " Arranging to meet beforehand works great for us.....and then the added frission of excitement from the random encounter with someone new and totally unplanned....that's what makes clubs so exciting....of course, sometimes things don't pan out into the amazing mmfmm we would like but we always have some fun. Some clubs are better value for money than others - swinging is like most social activities - in order to gain satisfaction participants need to spend money but also put in their effort and their time and their social skills. when we attend as a couple or when one of us attend as a single we make an effort to connect with people we find mentally and physically attractive. It would be nice if single men could pay the same amount as one half of a couple but clubs can charge single men more because of market forces. Clubs are businesses after all, peoples job's depend on the profit being made. We are lucky that within 90 minutes from where we live there are 8 clubs to chose from - all with different pricing structures. | |||
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"It's tough for the club's to get it right end of. Too cheap=swamped, Too much=empty and everyone's cheap,expensive opinion differs hugely. " What you call 'swamped' is what I call 'choice'. I only want to play with single men or m/m couples when I go out. Imagine if a club said 'we're going to restrict single women to just six women per night on couples night, so that the couples don't get swamped' - there would be uproar! All the couples would whinge about not having any choice and how expensive the entrance fee was if they had such little chance of finding someone compatible! | |||
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"different nights are set to cater for different groups of people and therefore the prices are different accordingly... see i hate the arguement of people being "priced" out as it is much more nuisanced that than... for example, i go on a night as a singe guy, that is primarily based at couples, and the price i pay reflects that... but for me it is a much more socialable night that the mixed night... and that suits me much better... so i don't begrudge anyone who pays less than me... the other thing is the comparison in price... some like to compare it to people going on the same night.... i don't! I compare it to what i would be doing on the same night instead.. so for example what i spend on going to a club is probably equal or less than i would going into town, buying a meal, buying drinks, taxi's ect..... the truth is... there are some people who will just chat to anyone without an m.o and would have a good time at a club regardless......... and there are those guys would will just wander around the clubs like lemmings thinking a club is a cheap knocking shop...who won't say boo to a goose and expect to play just because they pay to get in..... one lot are likely to complain more than the other..... guess which set!" Interesting and well thoughtthrough post. and I agree about the lemming thing you see that a lot at OP4F.Although I have only ever been tgere on a Sunday. I personaly think if you are ñot happy with the price of the club then go to another one. You only enjoy what you put into it, If you think there is a promise not a premise of sex then tge chances are you will leave disappointed. at the ame time I could not justify to my bank acount going to a club that charged £70+ yet again what ones think is expensive and good value is a matter of perspective and opinion and demographics. lets use vannila clubbing in cadiff/bristol compared to clubbing in Essex as an example. both of the former Citys are student towns entry avg £3/4/5 1.50 a drink (upselling). Essex: entry £10/15 sometimes near £30 £3 a drink I thought that was cheap but my mates from briz and diff thought that was well expensive. So geography how much you earn will dictate weather a club niggt is expensive. also there are some clubs for what ever reason where they cant get single men for love nor money. Galores is certainly one of those clubs. So i'l hapily pay my £30 and enjoy myself weather I play or not. | |||
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"A question aimed at you lovely ' single ' men who attend clubs . Are clubs getting a little to expensive ? After another visit to our favourite club on a friday night the attendance or rather lack of attendance of ' single' guys was very evident .Are you being put off by the rising costs or maybe something else ? " I went to abfabs not Saturday gone previous Saturday as a couple and cost me £70 plus £20 each way for taxi plus hotel so an expensive night ,not something I can do too often enjoyed it though | |||
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"cheaper for a guy /couple to get a travellodge" Not as much fun though, far more fun to play at a club. | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... " Chams give you a loyality card with room for 5 stamps. Once the card is full I believe you get a free entry if not a reduced one! | |||
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"The reason we go to clubs is to meet single guys , if a guys taken the trouble to get to a club then you know hes going to be up for some fun whereas trying to arrange a meet off here is somewhat frustrating ." i couldnt agree more | |||
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"The costs do seem to be rising but that isn’t a reason for me not to go. The main issue for me as a single guy (in the Midlands) is that I can’t go to a local club on a Saturday night. I work Monday to Friday 9 to 5(ish) and sometimes I’m too knackered to go out after a hard week. So I’ve started planning going to clubs in the North West on a Saturday night, as they seem to be more accommodating of single males. I’ve also spoken to many couples (who only play with single males) that voice the same opinion. Plus it seems entrance costs are slightly cheaper up north! Personally, I’d rather pay a little extra in travel costs etc to go to a club on a Saturday night when I’m fully rested and raring to go so to speak. " We agree, work etc sometimes makes Friday's impossible, it awkward that clubs do follow the same blueprint.. Friday singles. Saturday couples. Which clubs cater for males on Saturday ? | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... " £70 membership then 4 × 30 = £190 ÷ by 4 equals nearly £50per visit add fuel costs each time is quite expensive in my eyes | |||
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"different nights are set to cater for different groups of people and therefore the prices are different accordingly... see i hate the arguement of people being "priced" out as it is much more nuisanced that than... for example, i go on a night as a singe guy, that is primarily based at couples, and the price i pay reflects that... but for me it is a much more socialable night that the mixed night... and that suits me much better... so i don't begrudge anyone who pays less than me... the other thing is the comparison in price... some like to compare it to people going on the same night.... i don't! I compare it to what i would be doing on the same night instead.. so for example what i spend on going to a club is probably equal or less than i would going into town, buying a meal, buying drinks, taxi's ect..... the truth is... there are some people who will just chat to anyone without an m.o and would have a good time at a club regardless......... and there are those guys would will just wander around the clubs like lemmings thinking a club is a cheap knocking shop...who won't say boo to a goose and expect to play just because they pay to get in..... one lot are likely to complain more than the other..... guess which set!" | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. " What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... Chams give you a loyality card with room for 5 stamps. Once the card is full I believe you get a free entry if not a reduced one! " It's one free entry once the card is filled | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... Chams give you a loyality card with room for 5 stamps. Once the card is full I believe you get a free entry if not a reduced one! It's one free entry once the card is filled " how many times do you have to go to get a full card? Is it like mcdonalds free cup of coffee after you've paid for 9? | |||
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"A question aimed at you lovely ' single ' men who attend clubs . Are clubs getting a little to expensive ? After another visit to our favourite club on a friday night the attendance or rather lack of attendance of ' single' guys was very evident .Are you being put off by the rising costs or maybe something else ? " Can't cost more than a normal night out so still has to be worth it I would think ? | |||
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"I know its not a popular view and there is no point in slagging me off because its already been done, but i do think the majority of such clubs are only there to milk single men who pay good money in the mistaken belief that they are going to be invited to engage in sex with a female or couple. If you are willing to pay that much for so called membership and entry fees well go hire an escort and you will definitely get sex !" I know what your saying and I understand but Personally I wouldn't pay for sex, when I go a club I've paid for an opportunity where sex could happen if there's mutual attraction, I want people to to want to have sex with me and not because I gave them money to do so much better that way. You might not always play either depends on nights you go or whos there on the nights but if you make an effort and talk to people you could play on future visits. | |||
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"I know its not a popular view and there is no point in slagging me off because its already been done, but i do think the majority of such clubs are only there to milk single men who pay good money in the mistaken belief that they are going to be invited to engage in sex with a female or couple. If you are willing to pay that much for so called membership and entry fees well go hire an escort and you will definitely get sex ! I know what your saying and I understand but Personally I wouldn't pay for sex, when I go a club I've paid for an opportunity where sex could happen if there's mutual attraction, I want people to to want to have sex with me and not because I gave them money to do so much better that way. You might not always play either depends on nights you go or whos there on the nights but if you make an effort and talk to people you could play on future visits. " I hear you. Well there are plenty of men who are happy to pay for sex an some for whom it is their only outlet. Its not something i could be bothered with. Clubs,,well you could just as well say that if you went out in any social situation, there is always the possibility of meeting a nice girl. Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys." Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this." I dont go to any clubs. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs." There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. | |||
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"The clubs I tried in Stoke, charged me half of what they charged for couples. Cheaper than for single males granted, but no incentive for me as a single female to go again." What kind of incentive did you want? Surely the incentive is the fact it's a swingers club and you get to meet other swingers? | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club." Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. | |||
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"The clubs I tried in Stoke, charged me half of what they charged for couples. Cheaper than for single males granted, but no incentive for me as a single female to go again. What kind of incentive did you want? Surely the incentive is the fact it's a swingers club and you get to meet other swingers?" Of course, my mistake | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." Have you ever actually been to a swingers club ? | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Have you ever actually been to a swingers club ?" No, Why would i go to a swingers club..? | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club." Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Have you ever actually been to a swingers club ? No, Why would i go to a swingers club..?" You seem to have very strong views about something you obviously have no idea about, we've been to many swingers clubs and never seen any women paid to have sex with people | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that." You have said exactly that in the past. You called all club going women prozzies - yep some of us women remember stuff like that. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Have you ever actually been to a swingers club ? No, Why would i go to a swingers club..? You seem to have very strong views about something you obviously have no idea about, we've been to many swingers clubs and never seen any women paid to have sex with people " I wouldnt say i have strong views. I have just my own views and perceptions which i have formed from stuff i have been told, read or surmised. As i say, i recognise that not all clubs are the same and of course it would be ridiculous to say that all women who attend such places are in the pay of the owners. Its not difficult to spot the ones who may be though. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that. You have said exactly that in the past. You called all club going women prozzies - yep some of us women remember stuff like that. " If you are so sure then perhaps you can quote where i said that and i shall immediately retract and apologise. As that is not my belief it is unlikely that i have said it. Which clubs do you attend with your friends? | |||
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"Ive only ever been to one club. Cost £50 for a night pass. Told membership cost is £70 for the year & a further £30 everytime i wanted to use the club after that but would need to call in advance of going as i was told just because im a member doesnt give me automatic entry. Hence why ive only been once but it would only take 4 visits in the year for it to pay for itself.... once visit every 3 months..... Chams give you a loyality card with room for 5 stamps. Once the card is full I believe you get a free entry if not a reduced one! It's one free entry once the card is filled how many times do you have to go to get a full card? Is it like mcdonalds free cup of coffee after you've paid for 9?" 6 and then a free entry if I remember, which means over 7 visits it makes it just over £28 on average | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that. You have said exactly that in the past. You called all club going women prozzies - yep some of us women remember stuff like that. If you are so sure then perhaps you can quote where i said that and i shall immediately retract and apologise. As that is not my belief it is unlikely that i have said it. Which clubs do you attend with your friends?" None of your business where I go with my friends, tho they are many and varied. The Green arrow tells your story | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people? | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that. You have said exactly that in the past. You called all club going women prozzies - yep some of us women remember stuff like that. If you are so sure then perhaps you can quote where i said that and i shall immediately retract and apologise. As that is not my belief it is unlikely that i have said it. Which clubs do you attend with your friends? None of your business where I go with my friends, tho they are many and varied. The Green arrow tells your story " Do get back to us when you can quote where i said all females who went to clubs were prozzies. | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people?" Waspi, i have no idea as to whether you are a prostitute or not. It is really non of my business and i am quite happy with your stated desires and reasons for attending clubs. I hope it is a rewarding and enjoyable experience for both yourself and all others. All i am saying is that sometimes all is not what it seems and single guys can be exploited if they are naive/desperate enough. | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people? Waspi, i have no idea as to whether you are a prostitute or not. It is really non of my business and i am quite happy with your stated desires and reasons for attending clubs. I hope it is a rewarding and enjoyable experience for both yourself and all others. All i am saying is that sometimes all is not what it seems and single guys can be exploited if they are naive/desperate enough." No, you were speculating that all women who spend too much time (according to you) going to clubs were prostitutes. That they have some kind of deal with the management. You have absolutely no fucking clue about clubs because you never actually go to them. | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people? Waspi, i have no idea as to whether you are a prostitute or not. It is really non of my business and i am quite happy with your stated desires and reasons for attending clubs. I hope it is a rewarding and enjoyable experience for both yourself and all others. All i am saying is that sometimes all is not what it seems and single guys can be exploited if they are naive/desperate enough. No, you were speculating that all women who spend too much time (according to you) going to clubs were prostitutes. That they have some kind of deal with the management. You have absolutely no fucking clue about clubs because you never actually go to them." No,i am speculating that SOME women some females have vested interests in certain clubs. Do you believe that to be not the case? I have never flown an airbus but i do have some knowledge of how it works.We are no longer in the dark ages. Those who can think and comprehend have the privilege of being able to access more information now than at any time in the past by virtue of the internet. What a wonderful thing it is. | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people? Waspi, i have no idea as to whether you are a prostitute or not. It is really non of my business and i am quite happy with your stated desires and reasons for attending clubs. I hope it is a rewarding and enjoyable experience for both yourself and all others. All i am saying is that sometimes all is not what it seems and single guys can be exploited if they are naive/desperate enough. No, you were speculating that all women who spend too much time (according to you) going to clubs were prostitutes. That they have some kind of deal with the management. You have absolutely no fucking clue about clubs because you never actually go to them.No,i am speculating that SOME women some females have vested interests in certain clubs. Do you believe that to be not the case? I have never flown an airbus but i do have some knowledge of how it works.We are no longer in the dark ages. Those who can think and comprehend have the privilege of being able to access more information now than at any time in the past by virtue of the internet. What a wonderful thing it is." I quote, directly from you: "I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment" That seems to say that if women enjoy going to clubs frequently that means they are either: 1. Unemployed 2. Employed by the club That's what you said. They're unemployed or they're hookers who are working from a swingers club because they can't get work elsewhere as a hooker. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Wondered when you would come out with the 'all women who go to clubs are prozzies' line AGAIN. Fucking hilarious from someone who doesn't have the balls to even set foot inside a club. Perhaps you need to re-read as i didnt for one minute suggest or say that all women who go to such clubs are prozzies. As for having the balls,,what on earth has that to do with it? Its all about money on the door and i have plenty of that. You have said exactly that in the past. You called all club going women prozzies - yep some of us women remember stuff like that. If you are so sure then perhaps you can quote where i said that and i shall immediately retract and apologise. As that is not my belief it is unlikely that i have said it. Which clubs do you attend with your friends? None of your business where I go with my friends, tho they are many and varied. The Green arrow tells your story Do get back to us when you can quote where i said all females who went to clubs were prozzies. " Here: for those interested in the thread it's the sinsations one. "I suppose so though ive never been to one. They are mostly thinly disguised brothels for extracting cash from mug male punters." | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." How rude to say that! I go to swingers clubs, i go weekdays or weekends. I am not a prozzie (your word). Just because women go to swingers clubs doesn't mean they are prostitutes it just means they like swingers clubs and may want to socialise there and have sex there. How rude to sugest otherwise ! | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people?" its the clubs in Birmingham that are the most expensive. Sating that ive only been to one & the cost put me off being a member | |||
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" Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. If I lived in Birmingham I would proberbly go to fetish and swing clubs two or three times a week. Does that make me a prostitute? Or just someone who enjoys sex clubs and playing with other people? Waspi, i have no idea as to whether you are a prostitute or not. It is really non of my business and i am quite happy with your stated desires and reasons for attending clubs. I hope it is a rewarding and enjoyable experience for both yourself and all others. All i am saying is that sometimes all is not what it seems and single guys can be exploited if they are naive/desperate enough." ahh now your saying all single guys are naive for going to clubs? | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." I really enjoy going to my local swingers club and often mention it in the forums, in order to encourage others to come along and discover what a great place it is. The idea that I may be thought of as a past her best prostitute is disgusting. I feel sick that someone could rationally think such a thing. I am an articulate woman...but am lost for words. Nasty nasty nasty nasty man !!!! | |||
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"Well the price is probably there to stop us lot flooding the place. While for me it can be off putting some of the time. The main reason I would stop going is the after reading the reviews on the clubs by other patrons not wanting us there sharing their space. After all why go where you’re not wanted." | |||
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"Well the price is probably there to stop us lot flooding the place. While for me it can be off putting some of the time. The main reason I would stop going is the after reading the reviews on the clubs by other patrons not wanting us there sharing their space. After all why go where you’re not wanted. " Many people, us included, go clubs to meet single guys so you are wanted ! It's the ones who behave badly that aren't wanted and that's not just single guys but couples and fems too. | |||
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"It's why I stick to my favorite party Eyeswideshut they offer early bird tickets at half the price when booked in advance x £20 " and it is run by a very friendly lady. There is no membership fee and 'early bird' tickets for couples are £15 and for women, £5. I think those prices are very fair | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.." You have no idea what you're talking about yet again!!! Your views are poorly judged and clinical at best. We go to clubs for the primary reason it's a safe environment to sexually explore. Turning up at some strangers house or hotel room... Do you not watch Crimewatch??? As for the cost to either single guys or couples, it's still a lot cheaper than any hotel, with facilities that you wouldn't normally have at home or in a hotel. These clubs are businesses. They need to make money to pay rent, staff, maintain the property, buy equipment. None of that comes cheap. Our continued patronage will ensure their survival. You only have to look at how many pubs are closing to see how tough it is. As you have never been to a club you have no idea. Wht are you even on this site??? | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month?" Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. You are on a Swinger's website so there is a chance you would be interested in going to a Swinger's club to meet Swingers. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. Have you ever actually been to a swingers club ? No, Why would i go to a swingers club..?" | |||
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" Of course if you do go to a club at the right time, you could well be offered sex by one of the honeypots loosely employed by the club owners to hook single guys. Sounds like you're going to the wrong clubs - none of the clubs I go to do this. I dont go to any clubs. There's your problem then. You're basing your posts on absolutely nothing more than rumour and untruth. I can think of one single sex club that employs women to have sex with the clientele - but it's not a swingers club. Well i guess thats a distinct possibility. I do see the same females on here day in day out saying they are at a certain club today. Presumably they are unemployed or else the club is actually their employment i.e they are honeypotting. If you get a prozzie who is past her best and cant make a living on the escort scene,,well she could team up with certain clubs,,be in there posing as a single fem or couple and service a few guys. They pay a fat membership and entry fee, think they are getting a bona fide swinging experience, the club takes money and bungs some to the prozzie and everyones happy. They can also swap veris.. Not saying it happens everywhere.. You have no idea what you're talking about yet again!!! Your views are poorly judged and clinical at best. We go to clubs for the primary reason it's a safe environment to sexually explore. Turning up at some strangers house or hotel room... Do you not watch Crimewatch??? As for the cost to either single guys or couples, it's still a lot cheaper than any hotel, with facilities that you wouldn't normally have at home or in a hotel. These clubs are businesses. They need to make money to pay rent, staff, maintain the property, buy equipment. None of that comes cheap. Our continued patronage will ensure their survival. You only have to look at how many pubs are closing to see how tough it is. As you have never been to a club you have no idea. Wht are you even on this site??? " Another classic case of a person with an oppinion based on no fact what so ever. To give him his dues he has used the Sherlock Holmes logic of adduction to come to if honnest a completly wrong conclusion. I have been to clubs and have never paid for sex. I would never pay a vulnrable women for sex. That just dosn't appeal to me. the closests thing I have seen to your argument is girl offering non-sexule massages and another girl offering men to drink shots from her crevaces at op4f. Women who work for clubs and/or the ones attend the clubs are not easy, they are aspiratinal sexually liberated not easy. I think you sir need to research what you are talking about before messaging. | |||
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" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. no offence... but if that is the mental attitude of the single guys that aren't going to clubs..... then clubs can certainly do without that type of person.... I've see guys turn up and complain because there is "no action" and i just tell them if they want a guarentee then go to a brothel... and the fact you think a swinging club is akin to a brothel probably isn't helping chances either.. no all clubs charge the same on each night.... some nights are aimed at some more than others.... but it just feels like these threads just turn into one massive chip on the shoulder....." You, good sir, are a goddam genius. You summation of the issue is spot on. We have to laugh when we hear single guys moaning about 'no action' as if saying that us the thing that is going to change their night. We will happily play with respectful singles, but it seems to us that respectful single males are the real unicorns of the swinger scene sometimes... | |||
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" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. no offence... but if that is the mental attitude of the single guys that aren't going to clubs..... then clubs can certainly do without that type of person.... I've see guys turn up and complain because there is "no action" and i just tell them if they want a guarentee then go to a brothel... and the fact you think a swinging club is akin to a brothel probably isn't helping chances either.. no all clubs charge the same on each night.... some nights are aimed at some more than others.... but it just feels like these threads just turn into one massive chip on the shoulder..... You, good sir, are a goddam genius. You summation of the issue is spot on. We have to laugh when we hear single guys moaning about 'no action' as if saying that us the thing that is going to change their night. We will happily play with respectful singles, but it seems to us that respectful single males are the real unicorns of the swinger scene sometimes... " im sorry to hear that your experence of finding men on here is like what you have written. I hope from here on in your expereince becomes more fruitful. | |||
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"It's why I stick to my favorite party Eyeswideshut they offer early bird tickets at half the price when booked in advance x £20 and it is run by a very friendly lady. There is no membership fee and 'early bird' tickets for couples are £15 and for women, £5. I think those prices are very fair" But what I don't get is why women are 5 and men 4 times that? It's good that there isn't a massive difference like some places, but 200 percent more is still a bit excessive, | |||
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"But what I don't get is why women are 5 and men 4 times that? It's good that there isn't a massive difference like some places, but 200 percent more is still a bit excessive," Quite simply because far more men are likely to turn up than women, especially if the prices are equal. Women are therefore offered a discount to attract them. The gender imbalance on this website is a prime example of what happens with equal opportunity pricing. | |||
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"But what I don't get is why women are 5 and men 4 times that? It's good that there isn't a massive difference like some places, but 200 percent more is still a bit excessive, Quite simply because far more men are likely to turn up than women, especially if the prices are equal. Women are therefore offered a discount to attract them. The gender imbalance on this website is a prime example of what happens with equal opportunity pricing." But with a venue you can limit numbers to let's say 10 men, and 10 women, in our experience of clubs women can be just has bad as men, trying to take over the club, | |||
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"But what I don't get is why women are 5 and men 4 times that? It's good that there isn't a massive difference like some places, but 200 percent more is still a bit excessive, Quite simply because far more men are likely to turn up than women, especially if the prices are equal. Women are therefore offered a discount to attract them. The gender imbalance on this website is a prime example of what happens with equal opportunity pricing. But with a venue you can limit numbers to let's say 10 men, and 10 women, in our experience of clubs women can be just has bad as men, trying to take over the club, " If you limit numbers then prices go up as the club's income needs to stay the same. If they can't get women through the door at £5 good luck on getting them at £10 but more likely more. Clubs are businesses. If there was profit in charging women more, or the same, as men then they would be doing it. | |||
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"Open a club... charge men the same as women and don't limit the number of men. I'd give it 3 months before you had to close the doors. " How do fetish clubs manage it? | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. " You are hardly a beacon of equality then! | |||
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"Open a club... charge men the same as women and don't limit the number of men. I'd give it 3 months before you had to close the doors. " i have pointed this out before..... its very easy to be a warrior is you don't back your own principle and place your money where your view seems to apply... but alas i am still waiting on "utopia" to open (i even gave her a name she could call the club) | |||
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"I wanted to go last weekend for the first time - thought I'd read up on the website first. Turns out I wasn't going. 1. I'm not allowed as I'm not a member. 2. I'm not allowed if I was as it was couples only. Then I saw the prices, and the sign up form. I get all that, I really do. Then I started reading the finer rules, waiting lists, how I could be asked not to return etc. I get that too, I really do. But you add it all up and it starts to seem like an elite social clique that you can only become part of if the people in charge like you. That's rather off putting to me. I'm never going to be rude, forceful, unhygienic or break any rules whilst in a club. I'm social, funny and respectful, I want to make friends as well as have fun. Also the idea of walking into a sex club as a single is s little daunting. What if I don't like all the openness, couldn't I have a trial first?? I'd rather meet people off my own back at the moment, but as competing with rest of the single males and have no veris yet - it's difficult. Rock and a hard place. Despite my reservations, I do really want to go to a club and I'm sure I'll apply in s few months and see if I get accepted. I hope to see some of you there." You read ...................... the rules? Seriously, good on you for doing your homework and I hope you do manage to find a club to go to and enjoy! | |||
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"Open a club... charge men the same as women and don't limit the number of men. I'd give it 3 months before you had to close the doors. How do fetish clubs manage it?" There is a difference between Fetish Events and Swinging Events and that is why they manage. | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. You are hardly a beacon of equality then!" Never said anything about being equal. | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. You are hardly a beacon of equality then!" | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. You are hardly a beacon of equality then! Never said anything about being equal. " no but your saying plenty about everything else mmmm commission I wonder | |||
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"It's why I stick to my favorite party Eyeswideshut they offer early bird tickets at half the price when booked in advance x £20 and it is run by a very friendly lady. There is no membership fee and 'early bird' tickets for couples are £15 and for women, £5. I think those prices are very fair But what I don't get is why women are 5 and men 4 times that? It's good that there isn't a massive difference like some places, but 200 percent more is still a bit excessive," I don't know; what I do know is £20 is not a lot of money to enter any club; most half-decent nite-clubs in the West End cost a lot more | |||
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"I really do think single men are put up on and taken advantage of by clubs, 4 don't see why a single man cannot pay the same as a couple and then just limit the number of men? If every club agreed to charge women a tenner and single men and couples 20 I think that would be a fairer system?" i would agree with that & being a respectical single guy i would go more often | |||
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"Just remind me......this thread started as a thread about if clubs being expensive for single guys. It then became offensive: talking about ladies who talk about clubs on a regular being prostitutes who are past their sell by dates and paid for by the club. Then men talking about clubs are thought to be commission. I will tell you a little secret. Some people enjoy going to the clubs and are happy to tell other people about the place they have discovered. I don't think there are any rules to stop people telling others what they like. Why do certain people feel the need to be so rude and unpleasant. Suggesting prostitution or payment from clubs is unnecessary. I am seriously contemplating reporting these comments to admin " I reported some comments three times to admin, and a mod. Apparently not offensive | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. You are hardly a beacon of equality then! Never said anything about being equal. no but your saying plenty about everything else mmmm commission I wonder" | |||
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"Atlantis Evolution is £5 joining fee and then single men pay £30 per visit on Friday nights or the Greedy Girls Night on the first Wednesday of every month. What do the pay on the other 25 nights a month? Only open to single guys on Friday nights and the first Wednesday of every month so they don't pay anything unless they attend a Fetish Event on a Sunday. You are hardly a beacon of equality then! Never said anything about being equal. no but your saying plenty about everything else mmmm commission I wonder" Unfortunately no commission, I help out behind the bar for free because I enjoy meeting the people, the music and doing this has helped me overcome my shyness. I have made some good friends and enjoyed some great nights dancing and chatting, occasionally more. | |||
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"Of coarse there not offensive it's people's views" I felt some were offensive about generalisation of women being prostitute/escort/paid by club. Some people were Effing at the other persons view. I thought it was getting hurtful at times, hence I reported. But I was wrong, just backing up another posters concerns about some content | |||
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"Of coarse there not offensive it's people's views" Just because something is someone's view doesn't make it not offensive. Some people have racist views but this is offensive to others. Saying that women who go to swingers clubs is offensive and you know that most of the women who go to swingers clubs are not prostitutes. | |||
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"Of coarse there not offensive it's people's views Just because something is someone's view doesn't make it not offensive. Some people have racist views but this is offensive to others. Saying that women who go to swingers clubs is offensive and you know that most of the women who go to swingers clubs are not prostitutes. " AND I just admitted I was wrong ???? | |||
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"Of coarse there not offensive it's people's views Just because something is someone's view doesn't make it not offensive. Some people have racist views but this is offensive to others. Saying that women who go to swingers clubs is offensive and you know that most of the women who go to swingers clubs are not prostitutes. AND I just admitted I was wrong ???? " You are not wrong. Suggesting clubs employ prostitutes to entice people in and commenting about ladies promoting the clubs are paid by the club and gents talking about the club must be paid by them also I find deeply offensive. As for the suggestion that I should stop reading posts, because of certain people's offensive comments is outrageous. However difficult their comments may be to read, due to poor spelling and grammar. Sorry....I am stooping to their level. I shall stop at this point. But thank you for taking this to admin. I wonder if several reports about the same people would make admin re think ? | |||
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"Though intrigued to visit a proper club I'm not that fussed by them. Reading from reviews I think Yes guys are overpriced! Which adds up when acc travel costs, drinks, accom etc. All this i think create the problem I've read most in club revs "anticipation" having fooked out over £100 in expense to get there some guys might think 'best get my money's worth attitude' hence why single guys get bad rep. Myself rather take that £35 entry fee get some bubbly & nibbled have a great meet at mine or their place " The advantage of going to a club, is if your lovely meet doesn't show, you have another 40 or 60 or 80 people to mingle with. There is the chance to play PLUS the chance to swap details with others to fix up dates for the future. Clubs are more about just sex. The chance to spend several hours with like minded people, getting to know them and having a laugh. The build up , flirting etc. It is all part of the fun. I am not sure one guy could keep me entertained for 6 hours....a club guarantees 6 hours of fun. If it's £30 entrance....That's a fiver an hour. Cheaper than golf,cinema , theatre etc.... | |||
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"Just remind me......this thread started as a thread about if clubs being expensive for single guys. It then became offensive: talking about ladies who talk about clubs on a regular being prostitutes who are past their sell by dates and paid for by the club. Then men talking about clubs are thought to be commission. I will tell you a little secret. Some people enjoy going to the clubs and are happy to tell other people about the place they have discovered. I don't think there are any rules to stop people telling others what they like. Why do certain people feel the need to be so rude and unpleasant. Suggesting prostitution or payment from clubs is unnecessary. I am seriously contemplating reporting these comments to admin I reported some comments three times to admin, and a mod. Apparently not offensive " how can the posts about prostitutes not be offensive? pakhurst, Lloyd george, St Frances of Whycomb and Hildegaurd of Bingham would all be rolling in their graves. | |||
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"Though intrigued to visit a proper club I'm not that fussed by them. Reading from reviews I think Yes guys are overpriced! Which adds up when acc travel costs, drinks, accom etc. All this i think create the problem I've read most in club revs "anticipation" having fooked out over £100 in expense to get there some guys might think 'best get my money's worth attitude' hence why single guys get bad rep. Myself rather take that £35 entry fee get some bubbly & nibbled have a great meet at mine or their place The advantage of going to a club, is if your lovely meet doesn't show, you have another 40 or 60 or 80 people to mingle with. There is the chance to play PLUS the chance to swap details with others to fix up dates for the future. Clubs are more about just sex. The chance to spend several hours with like minded people, getting to know them and having a laugh. The build up , flirting etc. It is all part of the fun. I am not sure one guy could keep me entertained for 6 hours....a club guarantees 6 hours of fun. If it's £30 entrance....That's a fiver an hour. Cheaper than golf,cinema , theatre etc.... " Fair point, each to their own. I been fortunate enough meet great folks now consider friends. Meet most on a reg for social & fun don't really need go club. But a visit deffo on my bucket list just so can say I did it lol | |||
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"Just a little tip, for those guys who want to attend but the money puts them off, have look in the swinging club forums and both xtasia and townhouse do free nights now and again for fab members, and they are great nights, 4 guess they are a great way to introduce new people to the club scene, and well done to the club's for putting them on" | |||
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"Open a club... charge men the same as women and don't limit the number of men. I'd give it 3 months before you had to close the doors. How do fetish clubs manage it?" Comparing a fetish club to a swingers club is like comparing a nightclub to a book club. How many single men go to fetish clubs with the sole intention to fuck swingers? | |||
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"I would love to go to a club but the cost is the problem, especially if you do not meet anybody, as stated above "The lack of people wanting to play with single guys" Guys will just not part with that amount of money on the off chance of some fun. we spoke to four couples who were all looking for a guy or even two to join them the last time we went . But it amazes us that guys just dont want to introduce themselves in the bar areas but are quite happy to stand at the bottom / side of where we are playing and expect to join in ! If female half likes the look of a guy then we go over to them and say hi so it works both ways .we pay to get in pay for a hotel pay out for taxies so couples go to quite a bit of effort as well . " This We do all our swinging in clubs and much prefer it when a guy comes and chats to us at the bar or wherever. We love meeting single guys in clubs and any presentable polite guy who chats to us first will almost certainly get some fun later in the evening. However the leg strokers (as we call them) You know the ones, they hang around the open playrooms waiting for some action to get going then slowly manoeuvre themselves into position and start by stroking a leg or an arm, then, if they don't get brushed away, venture further are not really for us. I wont say we've never let one or more join in but we've red carded many more. So come on guys. Stop hanging around the playrooms waving your cock about and get into the lounge/bar and actually talk to people. I'm sure most couples will agree that it will pay dividends. | |||
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"I think clubs should allow threesome or more rather than a couple and a single... " They are allowed once you get inside | |||
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" We do all our swinging in clubs and much prefer it when a guy comes and chats to us at the bar or wherever. We love meeting single guys in clubs and any presentable polite guy who chats to us first will almost certainly get some fun later in the evening. However the leg strokers (as we call them) You know the ones, they hang around the open playrooms waiting for some action to get going then slowly manoeuvre themselves into position and start by stroking a leg or an arm, then, if they don't get brushed away, venture further are not really for us. I wont say we've never let one or more join in but we've red carded many more. So come on guys. Stop hanging around the playrooms waving your cock about and get into the lounge/bar and actually talk to people. I'm sure most couples will agree that it will pay dividends. " Nicely put. | |||
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