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Getting Expensive

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

As someone who finds clubs the more enjoyable way to meet and socialise in the swinging world, i am finding it becoming to expensive as a single guy to attend.

Even after paying rather large joining fees there is still quite a hefty entrance fee for each visit, put that on top of petrol and the night starts to come in at often over 100 quid before even thinking about hotels etc.

I know this is aimed at reducing single guys numbers and only having decent guys around but is there anyone else out there finding the prices a problem?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swinging is an expensive hobby for me. I like to stay over in a decent hotel, make a night of it. Add to that hair, nails and all that related stuff and yes it is an expensive night out but I budget well. I'd rather have one good night per month rather than be out a few times a week on crap nights.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

Would never spend that amount of money .... there are so many other more interesting things to do for the same amount. Surely a better choice ...

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not a problem for me. I just don't go

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"night starts .... over 100 quid before even thinking about hotels etc.

I know this is aimed at ....... only having decent guys around"

Only decent guys have £100?

I think you mean "Aimed at earning as much money as possible from guys willing to pay what can be squeezed out of them"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"night starts .... over 100 quid before even thinking about hotels etc.

I know this is aimed at ....... only having decent guys around

Only decent guys have £100?

I think you mean "Aimed at earning as much money as possible from guys willing to pay what can be squeezed out of them" "

Yeah that's probably better wording

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

But for that night out i got dinner, drinks and a show.

For his hundred quid he got there and got in the door. (So show i suppose)

Hes still got, drinks, food, etc to go

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

That's a hundred quid before hotels, food, drink etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

You and I have very different 'normal' nights out

Mine usually comes in at about a tenner at most

I don't drink so two diet s is about as far as the drinks tab goes.

I rarely eat out and if I do it's usually a pizza or a buffet type place

A night at a theatre would be a treat

So yeah, £100 on a night out is a lot to me.

Not a dig by the way, just offering another comprison

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....

But for that night out i got dinner, drinks and a show.

For his hundred quid he got there and got in the door. (So show i suppose)

Hes still got, drinks, food, etc to go"

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....

You and I have very different 'normal' nights out

Mine usually comes in at about a tenner at most

I don't drink so two diet s is about as far as the drinks tab goes.

I rarely eat out and if I do it's usually a pizza or a buffet type place

A night at a theatre would be a treat

So yeah, £100 on a night out is a lot to me.

Not a dig by the way, just offering another comprison

Burger and a pint is what 7 quid a head in most chain pubs now?

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By *abloversCouple over a year ago

London

If you can't afford it - don't do it. It really is that simple. Personally as a lady who likes to dress well, hair, nails, perfume, lingere, club outfit, heels etc. I frequently hits the £100 mark if not more. Not all ladies want your money and the ones that do are not worth your time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Not all ladies want your money and the ones that do are not worth your time."

Whats that got to do with the price of club entry?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

£100

where do you go, Gordon Ramseys place! You can get edible meals for 2 for around £20 + drinks say around £40 tops, I certainly wouldn't expect someone to spend £100 just for 2 dinners

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If you can't afford it - don't do it. It really is that simple. Personally as a lady who likes to dress well, hair, nails, perfume, lingere, club outfit, heels etc. I frequently hits the £100 mark if not more. Not all ladies want your money and the ones that do are not worth your time."

I'm not sure what it has to do with ladies wanting my money.. I'm saying clubs are pricing single guys out of attending.. And yes it is my choice to stop going

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not sure what it has to do with ladies wanting my money.. I'm saying clubs are pricing single guys out of attending.. And yes it is my choice to stop going "

I think from the last time we went to a singles night men were in abundance and certainly not priced out.

We love the club scene and can spend upwards of £200 for a single night so know how the costs mount up for everybody.

We like to balance our fun with private parties which are more fun and cost less. Not that we care about money because we are a couple of #ballers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not sure what it has to do with ladies wanting my money.. I'm saying clubs are pricing single guys out of attending.. And yes it is my choice to stop going "
the thing that everyone forgets with the very expensive for single guy pricing structure is how many guys ,nice guys don't go because of it ,many, the single guys are just making it affordable for couples and single women ,it keeps getting said that its supply and demand but I think their is an untapped market because of it ,its about time and I think many women who want to be treated equally to men would prefer we all pay same price

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I'm not sure what it has to do with ladies wanting my money.. I'm saying clubs are pricing single guys out of attending.. And yes it is my choice to stop going

I think from the last time we went to a singles night men were in abundance and certainly not priced out.

We love the club scene and can spend upwards of £200 for a single night so know how the costs mount up for everybody.

We like to balance our fun with private parties which are more fun and cost less. Not that we care about money because we are a couple of #ballers

Make no mistake here folks I'm not saying this because I CANT afford it I am saying it because I think it is becoming ridiculous what the charges are.

As I said clubs are my preferred venues but yes private parties are becoming more appealing. Ultimately it's the single guys keeping the prices down for couples and ladies.

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The reason clubs charge so much is because people are willing to pay. If people didn't attend, they would lower the prices. Simple economics.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single guys get ripped off by clubs always have always will, but as others have said if they stopped going to the clubs the charges would soon drop overnight.

I'm only surprised there's no EEC law about it, discrimination !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."
Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

We are followers of a certain football team,to get to most games the entrance fee in London especially is around 50 quid x2 the train fare there is 100 each and a hotel taxi exp or tube is at least 150,so before any drinks or meals are thrown in you are looking at 450 to watch a football game though the true cost is around 600 for your night away......keep going to the swinging club mate..lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Bloody hell me going to a PL game in the north from where I live now comes nowhere near that but yes it probably is on par with a club visit...

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

I know what you mean I only do Mufc home games

Trains can range from 40 to 80 plus match ticket 28

Though if going to club pay 10 to 15 for coach home

15 to 25 depending on night in club

Drinks at least 10

Meals 20 to 40 depending if having expensive lunch and dinner

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

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what a load of cods £600 to watch a game of football and you'd do that every week or even every other week I think not ,women can go to some clubs for nothing and the more expensive clubs where I live for £10 and go regularly, its just a totally unfair pricing structure ,we are mostly all paying members of fab and pay the same price ,if you go for a sauna or Jacuzzi at your local health club same price for men and women to get in ,if you get on a bus or a train same price but swingers clubs created by couples the man pays 4 or 5 times what the woman pays ,the reason these threads keep getting created is because its unfair in this equality driven world

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By *ndykinkyMan over a year ago

STOKE-ON-TRENT

You could always try going to a club once as a single guy and then get to know some of the ladies. If you hit it off with one you might get invited aling as a couple next time, it has been known. Works for some of the decent guys I know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single guys get ripped off by clubs always have always will, but as others have said if they stopped going to the clubs the charges would soon drop overnight.

I'm only surprised there's no EEC law about it, discrimination !"

That's why they have membership....private, membership only, clubs are exempt!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

AS a widowed pensioner of 82 yrs I am classed as a single guy. I liked clubs and could afford to go. But now with the extortionate prices charged for Single Guys , how may pensioner can afford to go once a month even ? Once you reach the age of 65 your club life is finished

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"You could always try going to a club once as a single guy and then get to know some of the ladies. If you hit it off with one you might get invited aling as a couple next time, it has been known. Works for some of the decent guys I know. "

But that's not what I want! I want to be able to access the clubs at a fair price as a single or couple.

I mostly enjoy clubs on Mondays where the theme is bi night but it's still just as expensive as a single 'bi' guy to go on these nights. Bear in mind it's one of the few occasions open male bi play is tolerated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

what a load of cods £600 to watch a game of football and you'd do that every week or even every other week I think not ,women can go to some clubs for nothing and the more expensive clubs where I live for £10 and go regularly, its just a totally unfair pricing structure ,we are mostly all paying members of fab and pay the same price ,if you go for a sauna or Jacuzzi at your local health club same price for men and women to get in ,if you get on a bus or a train same price but swingers clubs created by couples the man pays 4 or 5 times what the woman pays ,the reason these threads keep getting created is because its unfair in this equality driven world

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Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Everton tickets 35quid diesel for rtn trip 60 quid incidentals 30 quid.. 125 quid! Only 190 for two (if not staying over)

That's my breakdown... Still cheaper than a club that is half an hour away

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why not invest the same time and money in trying not to a be a single male? Get out there, meet real women, have some quality sex, build a relationship, fall in love..... Make your parents proud!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Why not invest the same time and money in trying not to a be a single male? Get out there, meet real women, have some quality sex, build a relationship, fall in love..... Make your parents proud!

Been there done that got the divorce... Not what I want anymore

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why not invest the same time and money in trying not to a be a single male? Get out there, meet real women, have some quality sex, build a relationship, fall in love..... Make your parents proud!

Been there done that got the divorce... Not what I want anymore"

Get back on the horse mate. You're worth more than this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Single guys get ripped off by clubs always have always will, but as others have said if they stopped going to the clubs the charges would soon drop overnight.

I'm only surprised there's no EEC law about it, discrimination !"

You'll find it's what the clubs are classed as that means they can charge what they like. Chams is deemed a sauna club and is therefore different rules

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

"Why not invest the same time and money in trying not to a be a single male? Get out there, meet real women, have some quality sex, build a relationship, fall in love..... Make your parents proud!

Been there done that got the divorce... Not what I want anymore"

Or if all you want is just a guaranteed fuck; spend £200 on an escort .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

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a premiership game costs between £15&25 to get in a meal with a drink at wetherspoons £5 each not sure about train fares depends where your travelling from and to and a premier inn booked 21 days in advance £21 approx doesn't amount to £600 ,we were talking about a club entry fee which can be as much as £125 at chams for a guy without the meals drinks and hotels etc it should be an across the board price for all as your premiership football tickets ,train fares,meals and drinks are

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By *urvymamaWoman over a year ago

Doncaster

Move up north the clubs are much cheaper you live in one of the most expensive cities in the uk it stands to reason clubs are more expensive there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Move up north the clubs are much cheaper you live in one of the most expensive cities in the uk it stands to reason clubs are more expensive there"
hehe ok we will all move up north its the only sensible thing to do x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

a premiership game costs between £15&25 to get in a meal with a drink at wetherspoons £5 each not sure about train fares depends where your travelling from and to and a premier inn booked 21 days in advance £21 approx doesn't amount to £600 ,we were talking about a club entry fee which can be as much as £125 at chams for a guy without the meals drinks and hotels etc it should be an across the board price for all as your premiership football tickets ,train fares,meals and drinks are

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which football club in London charges 15/25 quid.....what train runs from Newcastle and charges less than 100 per head,how can a hotel for two in central london set you back less than 150,if you enjoy weatherspoons then great you can eat shit for a fiver but we usually plump for an indian...lol

15 quid to get into spurs chelsea arsenal...lol try 50 to 70 per head instead of guessing something you obviously do not do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

which football club in London charges 15/25 quid.....what train runs from Newcastle and charges less than 100 per head,how can a hotel for two in central london set you back less than 150,if you enjoy weatherspoons then great you can eat shit for a fiver but we usually plump for an indian...lol

15 quid to get into spurs chelsea arsenal...lol try 50 to 70 per head instead of guessing something you obviously do not do"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are things that women pay more for - haircuts for one, and things that men pay more for - swingers clubs for example.

If you want equality, then you should be wanting it for everything, not just if it affects you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't get why people use incidentals into these discussions.

Yes, we know nights out cost

Yes, we know it costs to stay in hotels

Yes, it costs to follow a football team

That's all very nice, but really it is a deflection of the real matter on question which is :

Is it fair that single males pay more than everyone else to join or attend a club ?

The answer, of course, is 'No'

Is it done to support the business ? 'Yes'

Does it support the lifestyle choice of others ? 'Yes'

The answer is for single males to stop attending clubs until it happens.

With this happen ? 'No'

Why ? 'Because whilst there's a chance for even a sniff at a bit of new fanny, there will always be a market'

As I think I said yesterday, threads like this are futile because unless there is a groundswell of change and people vote with their feet, the status quo will never change.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are things that women pay more for - haircuts for one, and things that men pay more for - swingers clubs for example.

If you want equality, then you should be wanting it for everything, not just if it affects you."

Again that is choice tho.

If you want colours, highlights and whatever else, you are gonna pay for it.

A guy will go and get a trim or 10 minutes with the clippers.

Hardly the same service

Go and get your hair clipped in a barbers, not in a salon and don't insist on a 'style' : watch the prices drop

It's only societal convention that stops you

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

"There are things that women pay more for - haircuts for one, and things that men pay more for - swingers clubs for example.

If you want equality, then you should be wanting it for everything, not just if it affects you.

Again that is choice tho.

If you want colours, highlights and whatever else, you are gonna pay for it.

A guy will go and get a trim or 10 minutes with the clippers.

Hardly the same service

Go and get your hair clipped in a barbers, not in a salon and don't insist on a 'style' : watch the prices drop

It's only societal convention that stops you

Totally agree. I get my hair cut fine at a cut price shop, eight pounds all in and get lots of compliments ....

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By *dam and slutCouple over a year ago

Manchester

Here's an idea.

Start a meet/event/party etc of your own. Something l used to do back Iin the day.

Some companies hire out apartments for a night/day/week ect.

Then host the event/partys ect on the many fetish/swinging web sites out there. Or you could do a deal with an existing club in your area and just host the event/party.

Mine was gangbangs, hard work. Like shepherding squirrels trying to get single guys to turn up.

Warmest Adam

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By *andS33Couple over a year ago

Yorkshire

The clubs we visit the most generally charge single men the same as couples.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We started going to clubs in April and usually go once a month. It turns out to be quite an expensive night for us too, usually a couple of new dresses, petrol to drive over and back, entry fee, drinks, sleepover/hotel etc. As a couple we usually spend in the region of £100 all in.

But we enjoy it and balance it out with cheaper nights out and fun nights in - it's all balance.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are things that women pay more for - haircuts for one, and things that men pay more for - swingers clubs for example.

If you want equality, then you should be wanting it for everything, not just if it affects you."

Do women not tend to have more hair and require more complex work.

Kinda like conparing the cost of hiring somone to mow a 3 acre garden with features vs a small plain front lawn.

Of course the larger more complicated job costs more.

Go get your head shaved on the sides and trimed on top and youll pay the same as guy

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Everton tickets 35quid diesel for rtn trip 60 quid incidentals 30 quid.. 125 quid! Only 190 for two (if not staying over)

That's my breakdown... Still cheaper than a club that is half an hour away "

if the club is only half an hour away why would you need a hotel. Also petrol can't be that bloody much for a round 50 mile trip unless your driving a tank.

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By *oyce69Man over a year ago

Driffield

I looked at joining a well known caravan swingers site, the membership was £75 for a single guy with no guarantee that you would get an invite to any rallies because they limit the number of single men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't get why people use incidentals into these discussions.

Yes, we know nights out cost

Yes, we know it costs to stay in hotels

Yes, it costs to follow a football team

That's all very nice, but really it is a deflection of the real matter on question which is :

Is it fair that single males pay more than everyone else to join or attend a club ?

The answer, of course, is 'No'

Is it done to support the business ? 'Yes'

Does it support the lifestyle choice of others ? 'Yes'

The answer is for single males to stop attending clubs until it happens.

With this happen ? 'No'

Why ? 'Because whilst there's a chance for even a sniff at a bit of new fanny, there will always be a market'

As I think I said yesterday, threads like this are futile because unless there is a groundswell of change and people vote with their feet, the status quo will never change."
What should we use as a comparison....cock pics,what a stupid comment

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

If I have spare money and time, I'll go to my local club. If I don't, I don't.

Regarding clubs further afield, I plan in advance, get cheap hotel deals and cheap train fares. There's no way I could afford to go to somewhere like Jaydees or Tease 2 on a whim as I don't have a car, so will head for clubs that are in places I can get to for a reasonable cost.

Membership fees are only cost effective if you intend to use that club regularly. Once you've joined though then you don't have to pay it again all year. Factor it in to what you can afford over to year for attending clubs. You pay to join most things - gyms, cinema clubs, and so on. If that's the case then you have factored in the cost for your hobby. Why is a swinger club any different?

As for someone saying that prices should be reduced to attract 'nicer' men, how would that happen? Do only bastards have money? And how would the club police that? Questionnaires?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

One thing i will say is if it was a nightclub or a members club. For membership +40 quid a visit I'd be expecting a much higher quality of venue rhan mkst swinging clubs.

While most are clean there is a certain "oh my mate daves a builder he can knock up xyz" kinda atmosphere to most of them.

But i understand getting the 10's of thousands (probbaly 100+ actually) to actually fit out a venue as complicated as a swingers club to a high standard would be impossible to raise/ever make back.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't get why people use incidentals into these discussions.

Yes, we know nights out cost

Yes, we know it costs to stay in hotels

Yes, it costs to follow a football team

That's all very nice, but really it is a deflection of the real matter on question which is :

Is it fair that single males pay more than everyone else to join or attend a club ?

The answer, of course, is 'No'

Is it done to support the business ? 'Yes'

Does it support the lifestyle choice of others ? 'Yes'

The answer is for single males to stop attending clubs until it happens.

With this happen ? 'No'

Why ? 'Because whilst there's a chance for even a sniff at a bit of new fanny, there will always be a market'

As I think I said yesterday, threads like this are futile because unless there is a groundswell of change and people vote with their feet, the status quo will never change.What should we use as a comparison....cock pics,what a stupid comment

Maybe it doesn't need a comparison ?

Maybe it just is what it is ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Everton tickets 35quid diesel for rtn trip 60 quid incidentals 30 quid.. 125 quid! Only 190 for two (if not staying over)

That's my breakdown... Still cheaper than a club that is half an hour away

if the club is only half an hour away why would you need a hotel. Also petrol can't be that bloody much for a round 50 mile trip unless your driving a tank.

Yeah it's quite a big car!!! And why would I drive having had a few drinks in the club environment

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Everton tickets 35quid diesel for rtn trip 60 quid incidentals 30 quid.. 125 quid! Only 190 for two (if not staying over)

That's my breakdown... Still cheaper than a club that is half an hour away

if the club is only half an hour away why would you need a hotel. Also petrol can't be that bloody much for a round 50 mile trip unless your driving a tank.

Yeah it's quite a big car!!! And why would I drive having had a few drinks in the club environment"

Don't drink ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is there now going to be a 'boo hoo clubs are too expensive for single males ' thread every day now?

I want a Ferrari but can't afford one. Do you think if I put a thread up everyday moaning they will reduce the price? Will they fuck! Nothing will change about club pricing until men decide they won't pay silly prices for the chance of a fuck.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Conversely. If you're a single man, and you want to spend a load of money walking around a swinging club in a herd of other single men following one of the 2 good looking women there that night....then you deserve all you get.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Conversely. If you're a single man, and you want to spend a load of money walking around a swinging club in a herd of other single men following one of the 2 good looking women there that night....then you deserve all you get."

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Everton tickets 35quid diesel for rtn trip 60 quid incidentals 30 quid.. 125 quid! Only 190 for two (if not staying over)

That's my breakdown... Still cheaper than a club that is half an hour away

if the club is only half an hour away why would you need a hotel. Also petrol can't be that bloody much for a round 50 mile trip unless your driving a tank.

Yeah it's quite a big car!!! And why would I drive having had a few drinks in the club environment"
so its choice then, you could easily not drink and that would cut down on the cost by a lot.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

I guess Attenborough could make a documentary about them? Or the Autumn watch team? Especially Mr Packham....

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

I guess Attenborough could make a documentary about them? Or the Autumn watch team? Especially Mr Packham...."

Seeing Chris Packham in my local club would de finitely put me off my stroke!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As someone who finds clubs the more enjoyable way to meet and socialise in the swinging world, i am finding it becoming to expensive as a single guy to attend.

I know this is aimed at reducing single guys numbers and only having decent guys around but is there anyone else out there finding the prices a problem?"

Some clubs are cheaper then other clubs. London as a location is expensive. Clubs up and down the country are not so expensive the non hetro events tend to be cheaper then the ones aimed at the straight market. And fun4two in the Netherlands is around 100 Euros. Hopefully if your a single male and you do fork out alot of money the clubs you choose are of a high standard and are well run. If not I suggest you look around. Dear OP you do look hot so I do hope I get to see you before you bow out of the club scene.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle"

How would you fix it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

I guess Attenborough could make a documentary about them? Or the Autumn watch team? Especially Mr Packham....

Seeing Chris Packham in my local club would de finitely put me off my stroke! "

Think he's a "gentleman's sauna" kinda guy...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As someone who finds clubs the more enjoyable way to meet and socialise in the swinging world, i am finding it becoming to expensive as a single guy to attend.

I know this is aimed at reducing single guys numbers and only having decent guys around but is there anyone else out there finding the prices a problem?

Well thanks for the compliment

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle

How would you fix it? "

If I was a club owner I think I would canvas my clientele and ask the opinion of those who attend and what they expect and require.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

I guess Attenborough could make a documentary about them? Or the Autumn watch team? Especially Mr Packham....

Seeing Chris Packham in my local club would de finitely put me off my stroke!

Think he's a "gentleman's sauna" kinda guy..."

Doesn't make him a bad person lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its like the lottery. Some of them will get a shag, but they don't know who, so they live in hope.

I guess Attenborough could make a documentary about them? Or the Autumn watch team? Especially Mr Packham....

Seeing Chris Packham in my local club would de finitely put me off my stroke!

Think he's a "gentleman's sauna" kinda guy...

Doesn't make him a bad person lol"

How does the price of homosexual clubs compare to standard swinging cubs...?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a single male that's been going to swingers clubs for about 15 years or so on and off all over the country and I'v e never paid £100 membership/entry to get into one.

My local club doesn't charge to become a member (yes single males have to go on a Weds eve for an induction before the club opens and then stay until midnight at least to make sure that they like the club and the club likes you), then entry fees for single males range from £5-£30 max.

If I want to visit other clubs around the country and they have higher entry charges/membership charges, they I keep an eye out for socials/special events there where I can get in without being a member etc.

Rather than so many people moaning about the cost of swingers clubs for single males, put as much effort in to looking for good deals in swingers clubs and get out there and have fun.

If I want to save more money, I don't drink but drive there and back to clubs, if I want a drink then I book a hotel. There are plenty of ways of going to swingers clubs as a single male without spending silly money, just put the effort in and don't pay rip off prices, the choice is always yours as to how much you want to spend!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle

How would you fix it?

If I was a club owner I think I would canvas my clientele and ask the opinion of those who attend and what they expect and require. "

Our favourite club does this and the pricing structure will never go down simply because of overheads and people who pay it. It's never going to change while people carry on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

"
Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw"

That depends on the club and the night I go.

Take abfabs for instance. I went on a straight night. They signed me up as a girl and were incredibly apologetic that they would have to charge me as a guy.

I understood completely. I may present pretty well as female but where do you draw the line for tvs? If someone just wears knickers and expects to get in as a girl every guy on a budget would consider it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw

That depends on the club and the night I go.

Take abfabs for instance. I went on a straight night. They signed me up as a girl and were incredibly apologetic that they would have to charge me as a guy.

So could two guys be accepted as a couple.... I bet that would be an issue

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By *enard ArgenteMan over a year ago

London and France

" If someone just wears knickers and expects to get in as a girl every guy on a budget would consider it!

But I might want to wear expensive knickers

Lol

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Bloody hell the last whine only finished yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Id guess that once a TS has legally changed gender and that is proved on their identification then they should be charged as that gender.

Must be annoying if you're going female to male though...

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I don't get why people use incidentals into these discussions.

Yes, we know nights out cost

Yes, we know it costs to stay in hotels

Yes, it costs to follow a football team

That's all very nice, but really it is a deflection of the real matter on question which is :

Is it fair that single males pay more than everyone else to join or attend a club ?

The answer, of course, is 'No'

Is it done to support the business ? 'Yes'

Does it support the lifestyle choice of others ? 'Yes'

The answer is for single males to stop attending clubs until it happens.

With this happen ? 'No'

Why ? 'Because whilst there's a chance for even a sniff at a bit of new fanny, there will always be a market'

As I think I said yesterday, threads like this are futile because unless there is a groundswell of change and people vote with their feet, the status quo will never change."

no offence Bussy... i think you are wrong on this one...

there are two different comparisons you can make....

you can make the comparison against what the person next to you paid.... (the comparison of envy!!! which i don't think looks good!) I don't begrudge someone paying a different price to me other than saying "lucky bugger"

next time you are on a train/plane.... ask the person next to you what that ticket cost them.... because i am guessing its not likely to be the same price

or you can make a comparison as to what i would be doing instead at the same time... or doing instead... which you decided to call "incidentals" to lessen that

I'd actually call that "living in the real world" because we all have choices in what to do with the money we earn

so instead of going to a swinging club (which is costing me considerably less than 100 pounds) I would likely go out to a city centre... drinks... meal... nightclubs... taxi back ect ect......

for me in my case.... the two are comparable because i am likely spending as much doing one as i am doing the other..... in fact i could probably argue i would spend more doing the "saturday night in the city centre" than i would "saturday night at a swinging club"

you want to vote with your feet.... you are more than entitled to do so, me... but don't critise others is they look at the same thing differently... and don't belittle people making that decision by saying its about any sniff of fanny.... because that is really condescending...

and from someone i actually respect... that is truely disappointing...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Last one I went to cost me a tenner entry (same as the women) booked trains in advance so they were pretty cheap and got a little b and b with a couple of friends the night came in pretty cheap cheaper than most vanilla nights out I've had and well below the hundred quid mark, so not really sure what everyone is up to when looking at prices...is everyone going for the most expensive deals they can?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't get why people use incidentals into these discussions.

Yes, we know nights out cost

Yes, we know it costs to stay in hotels

Yes, it costs to follow a football team

That's all very nice, but really it is a deflection of the real matter on question which is :

Is it fair that single males pay more than everyone else to join or attend a club ?

The answer, of course, is 'No'

Is it done to support the business ? 'Yes'

Does it support the lifestyle choice of others ? 'Yes'

The answer is for single males to stop attending clubs until it happens.

With this happen ? 'No'

Why ? 'Because whilst there's a chance for even a sniff at a bit of new fanny, there will always be a market'

As I think I said yesterday, threads like this are futile because unless there is a groundswell of change and people vote with their feet, the status quo will never change.

no offence Bussy... i think you are wrong on this one...

there are two different comparisons you can make....

next time you are on a train/plane.... ask the person next to you what that ticket cost them.... because i am guessing its not likely to be the same price

or you can make a comparison as to what i would be doing instead at the same time... or doing instead... which you decided to call "incidentals" to lessen that

I'd actually call that "living in the real world" because we all have choices in what to do with the money we earn

so instead of going to a swinging club (which is costing me considerably less than 100 pounds) I would likely go out to a city centre... drinks... meal... nightclubs... taxi back ect ect......

and from someone i actually respect... that is truely disappointing...

"
Ah Fabio we took no issue with the lad but as you say all clubs are not the same....The clubs up north do not try to take your eye out like those in the south and for that they should be held in high esteem ,I think most northerners would baulk at the prices asked elsewhere for what clubs are to most,a place to socialise within the scene network friends and if you really fancy it on the night then have a little fun.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Guys it really is very simple. If you think you are being ripped off or subsidising nights out for the single women and couples then DON'T GO.

If you are correct then clubs will lose a fortune and have to drop their prices.

If you are wrong then things will just carry on.

Either way it really is that easy.

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By *ishopstippleMan over a year ago

Purley

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....

£100

where do you go, Gordon Ramseys place! You can get edible meals for 2 for around £20 + drinks say around £40 tops, I certainly wouldn't expect someone to spend £100 just for 2 dinners"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

15 quid to get into spurs chelsea arsenal...lol try 50 to 70 per head instead of guessing something you obviously do not do"
I googled the premiership entry prices and it came up with £15 to £25 I don't go to football mayches and Indian food is shit to me but irrespective of all of that we wernt talking about your extravagant lifestyle of wasting money watching football and eating Indian food we were talking about club entry fees the fact you would spend £600 to watch a football game is your prob nobody else's and wasn't a valid argument

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

15 quid to get into spurs chelsea arsenal...lol try 50 to 70 per head instead of guessing something you obviously do not do I googled the premiership entry prices and it came up with £15 to £25 I don't go to football mayches and Indian food is shit to me but irrespective of all of that we wernt talking about your extravagant lifestyle of wasting money watching football and eating Indian food we were talking about club entry fees the fact you would spend £600 to watch a football game is your prob nobody else's and wasn't a valid argument

"
It was a comparable...yours is just the view of an idiot,our lifestyle we enjoy and do not complain,enjoy your Mc Donalds and try to get out more wiki man as its all bollocks what your spouting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

FUCKING PARAGRAPHS!!!!!!

USE THEM!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

Seriously???? These guys live in Newcastle and if they choose to come to London for a game it's going to cost them... Their choice, just like people are saying it's my choice not to go to clubs.

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

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By *urvy_bi_honeyWoman over a year ago

Norwich

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

Hungry horse do a 2 for £10 menu, I always find the meals to be most delicious and satisfying! (Other large chains are available!!! Lol)

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....

That's a hundred quid before hotels, food, drink etc. "

Easy decision then. Skip the clubs and just attract women with your charm in restaurants

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

... and don't belittle people making that decision by saying its about any sniff of fanny.... because that is really condescending...

Ah but you see, for many guys it is just that.

I know from your contributions you are not of that ilk, I am not saying that any one of the contributors to this thread are either ... but (you knew there was one coming right ?

) from what I read in these forums there is definately an element of this goes on in clubs.

How many threads do we see about lurkers, towel tuggers and the like being a nuisance ?

Are these guys there for the social side ? To enjoy the 'ambience' of the club ? To make new friends ?

Maybe they are and just don't know how to go about it, but I think they are more likely to be there to see what they can get sexually.

Therefore for them, the entrance fee does equate to just the above.

Maybe keeping club prices high does keep out more of these 'chancers' , but maybe it also discourages other guys from attending who do know exactly how to interact, are willing to join in and would be welcomed by the other club goers, male, female or couples.

As I said initially though, there will be no change in the status quo whilst guys (of whatever 'type') continue to pay - whether they believe it to be a fair price or not.

I will apologise, however, if I was a little coarse in my choice of words in getting my thoughts across

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

It was a comparable...yours is just the view of an idiot,our lifestyle we enjoy and do not complain,enjoy your Mc Donalds and try to get out more wiki man as its all bollocks what your spouting

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hey its a debate and you just got personal you may enjoy it the OP enjoys it but the debate was about the unfair entry fees the fact you obviously have money to burn on crap food and football is neither here nor there ,a true saying is a fool and his money are easily parted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It costs me way more than that with my wife lol

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

maybe the thing you learnt or maybe need to take in, because at the moment you are going "la la la, i'm not listening" is that not everyone uses the same comparison to decide whether something is worth it...

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw

That depends on the club and the night I go.

Take abfabs for instance. I went on a straight night. They signed me up as a girl and were incredibly apologetic that they would have to charge me as a guy.

So could two guys be accepted as a couple.... I bet that would be an issue"

No. They pay as two single guys.

I only had the offer to attend as a couple made once by a club - and that was for a social as a 'one off' concession.

There may be the odd club that does allow it but I haven't come across any.

(To avoid any confusion, my OH is a guy too, does know I am here, but isn't particularly interested in the 'scene' as such, hence the 'single' profile)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The male half of this couple is a businessman (though not in the this genre or even bar nightlife scene etc.)....I can tell you that ALL businesses will charge what they can get away with. They aren't providing a social service...they are in it for income.

When income starts tailing away due to customer price resistance, then prices start falling. If a night out at a swing club is working out expensive that can only mean there are plenty still prepared to 'pony up' the prices being asked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't go to clubs. Cos it is to expensive lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People with families can hit £80 - 100 in child care costs before they even leave the house, double that for something like NYE when it's double time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Cods is it.....Yes we do it for most London games ,not every other week but we would like to see your breakdown of what it costs

..it was for comparison

It was a comparable...yours is just the view of an idiot,our lifestyle we enjoy and do not complain,enjoy your Mc Donalds and try to get out more wiki man as its all bollocks what your spouting

hey its a debate and you just got personal you may enjoy it the OP enjoys it but the debate was about the unfair entry fees the fact you obviously have money to burn on crap food and football is neither here nor there ,a true saying is a fool and his money are easily parted

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I think its you who got personal , your views and what you class as a lot of money are far from our view,your comments on pricing are complete bollocks and your lifestyle is as insignificant to us as the shit i flushed away this morning...enjoy your day , one day someone in the real world may take some interest in the crap you spout

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending"

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My social is the gym lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all. "

I think it is the assumption that all the bad guys have crap jobs and that all well employed are decent.... We all know that's not the case and we keno what happens when we assume....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are things that women pay more for - haircuts for one, and things that men pay more for - swingers clubs for example.

If you want equality, then you should be wanting it for everything, not just if it affects you."
you as a person who doesn't have a lot of money to throw away don't base your choices on cost then ?I hazard a guess you do, when I park my car I base it on cost if I think its free to park and it costs me £80 of course I will be pissed off about it ,I personally would go to a club with a partner if the cost was reasonable I make the choice not to go because it isn't ,am I wrong to do that ,no I'm not we all make these choices everyday in things we buy or don't,the OP was saying he loves going but is finding it increasingly difficult to do so, a fair argument I thought ,just because others get in cheaper or have money to waste doesn't make their argument right and the ops wrong

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all. "

To make themselves feel better

I know some really successful and nice guys who visit clubs and although they can easily afford to pay the entrance, find it slightly unfair that it is so much higher for them than for couples and women. They however live in the real world and know that the pricing structure is unlikely to change in the near future

The argument that reducing the charges will let more nice guys in also means that it will let more not so nice guys in too

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all.

I think it is the assumption that all the bad guys have crap jobs and that all well employed are decent.... We all know that's not the case and we keno what happens when we assume...."

You yourself stated that the price deters good people. How?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all.

To make themselves feel better

The argument that reducing the charges will let more nice guys in also means that it will let more not so nice guys in too"
but they are both unknown factors no-one could predict either way, fair pricing is only way forward let other people who are inquisitive about the clubs try them at affordable fair prices that's my argument

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all.

To make themselves feel better

The argument that reducing the charges will let more nice guys in also means that it will let more not so nice guys in too but they are both unknown factors no-one could predict either way, fair pricing is only way forward let other people who are inquisitive about the clubs try them at affordable fair prices that's my argument

Fair pricing would be the way forward if the current pricing wasn't working. However most clubs have great singles attendance with some having long waiting lists.

If it's not broke don't fix it would be the club owners argument.

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

This thread was put on because I am annoyed at the blatant ripping off of single males at clubs not comparing between what is affordable and what isn't... Everyone has their own budget.

so the politics of envy...... gotcha!!!!!

you decided to compare against others... envy!!!

i decided to compare against what i would/could be doing instead......

its like comparing a holiday to getting a car....

like comparing getting a whole new wardrobe of clothes... as compared to getting a top of the range ipad.....

if you want to bitch about it.... you have two choices.... vote with your feet, or budget

I don't need to budget I can afford the costs I just don't think it's right and deters good people from attending

Again I ask (because no-one replied before) why is it considered that only bad people can afford to go to clubs? Good people are in all economic brackets.

It deters people who can't afford it, or who don't want to pay the costs. That's all.

To make themselves feel better

I agree with you on this one

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"but they are both unknown factors no-one could predict either way, fair pricing is only way forward let other people who are inquisitive about the clubs try them at affordable fair prices that's my argument

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though."
of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

You know why - business. Lower prices for single females and couples is the only thing that will entice single females and couples to attend.

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

There are quite a few awful poor people. Not all poor people are nice people

You complain a lot about unfair pricing. You must have a better and more successful business model than all these club owners put together

Why not do the poor a favour and you start one of these 'fair-trade' clubs?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wondering if this is another thread on the same subject or a continuation of the one about the cost of attending for solo males being too high?

That one got automatically closed as being too big with 176 responses.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Wondering if this is another thread on the same subject or a continuation of the one about the cost of attending for solo males being too high?

That one got automatically closed as being too big with 176 responses.

It's a constant complaint, although I am not sure why the same people keep posting on them as the reasons for differing prices have been given again, and again, and again.....

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

" of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it "

so then the actually price isn't the stopping him from going as such..... it is stopping him from going as much as he would like to.....

thats a very "me-centric" arguement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

Last club I went to with two fems, they both paid a tenner the same as me, just saying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Single male = cash crop.

Single females must be the fertiliser!

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"Single male = cash crop.

Single females must be the fertiliser!

What about bi-guys? Multi-purpose?

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

Gran Canaria

What is fair pricing?

Fair for whom?

Swinging is not a public good like healthcare it's not something that can be funded centrally for the benefit of all.

There have been a few threads about this recently and fair tends to mean cheaper. I'm assuming there would be a plan for these price reductions to be offset by some other means to keep the clubs profitable and in business?

That would mean a reduction in costs or an increase in other revenues.

If couple or single fem costs go up to compensate I'm assuming all the calculations have been done measuring the elasticity of supply for males, females and couples has been calculated and you can account for a £5 reduction in single male prices and how that will effect attendance of all males, females and couples etc.

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

"
. The prices seem perfectly fair to me .

Most single guys going to clubs do not want them to be flooded with men and accept that the pricing structure is set to prevent this happening .

No one is compelled to attend clubs and in addition no one is prevented from organising their own private parties if they believe that club pricing is unfair .

If anyone wants to see how a free entry policy works , go to the swingers beach in Cap d Agde and you will see loads of men chasing after a few ladies or couples ..This is hardly an enjoyable experience for anyone .

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

OP, clubs are only one way to swing. The 2 main other ways are private meets, and house parties, which obviously don't have a door fee, but will still small costs for drinks, condoms etc.

So you are saying you only want to swing that way, and complaining its too expensive. Thats a bit like saying I only drink champagne, and then complaining that champagne is too expensive.

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"OP, clubs are only one way to swing. The 2 main other ways are private meets, and house parties, which obviously don't have a door fee, but will still small costs for drinks, condoms etc.

So you are saying you only want to swing that way, and complaining its too expensive. Thats a bit like saying I only drink champagne, and then complaining that champagne is too expensive. "

The complaint is about that he is paying more for his Champagne than you or I are and therefore can't afford to get as pissed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Women /couples obviously get in cheaper as they are the bait for the men to pay the jacked up prices (at some clubs) If no women or couples attended then there would be no clubs as men would not go

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 ....."

I can have several edible dinners for two for well under £100 and i am VERY fussy

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

. The prices seem perfectly fair to me .

Most single guys going to clubs do not want them to be flooded with men and accept that the pricing structure is set to prevent this happening .

No one is compelled to attend clubs and in addition no one is prevented from organising their own private parties if they believe that club pricing is unfair .

But why do they need a pricing structure to prevent clubs being flooded with single guys. Can they not just limit the amount of single guys, if that is what they want to avoid?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

Guys have been complaining about this for over 11 years, the time i have been swinging, and the price structure still stays the same so it obviously has enough single guys willing to pay the higher price and therefore works well for the clubs so i can't see it changing anytime soon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP, clubs are only one way to swing. The 2 main other ways are private meets, and house parties, which obviously don't have a door fee, but will still small costs for drinks, condoms etc.

So you are saying you only want to swing that way, and complaining its too expensive. Thats a bit like saying I only drink champagne, and then complaining that champagne is too expensive.

The complaint is about that he is paying more for his Champagne than you or I are and therefore can't afford to get as pissed

Go back to OP and see i said it is my preferred way!!!! I have been swinging long enough to know my options and also been swinging long enough to know the price increases are unjustified against single guys....

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

. The prices seem perfectly fair to me .

Most single guys going to clubs do not want them to be flooded with men and accept that the pricing structure is set to prevent this happening .

No one is compelled to attend clubs and in addition no one is prevented from organising their own private parties if they believe that club pricing is unfair .

But why do they need a pricing structure to prevent clubs being flooded with single guys. Can they not just limit the amount of single guys, if that is what they want to avoid?"

The aim is to get in as many single women in as they can. To do so, swinger's clubs (and mainstream nite-clubs) offer free or subsidised entry

Subsidies need to be funded either by the State or by some other means. Since the State is not interested, the oversubscribed gender subsidises. Ofcourse, only those who wish to enter a swinger's club, subsidise. It is not part of general taxation, so there is a very clear choice for men; pay up and enter; don't pay up, don't enter

There have been so many threads on this subject and so much written by club owners and forum users that if there was another way of running clubs, then it would have been attempted by now

I don't think there is a way to increase the 'female footfall' in clubs as, whether one likes it or not, there are far few sexually liberated women than there are men; it is probably an order of magnitude

Otherwise, all the single men will be falling over sexually liberated single women on the sidewalks. That does not happen and that is why they are here or in clubs

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

" of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it

so then the actually price isn't the stopping him from going as such..... it is stopping him from going as much as he would like to.....

thats a very "me-centric" arguement"

It's not ME centric at all it's an observation that prices are being increased unfairly against single guys..... Jeez do you guys manage to spin anything anyway you want.... Maybe it's not just the prices in clubs that are changing....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We go to swinging clubs often. Even factoring in the entrance fee/membership fee to be the same as it is for single guys we still wouldnt be spending anywhere near what others have said they spend !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

We regularly go to prem football games all over the UK including London but we have never spent that much on tickets and hotels etc. We drive or use supporters coaches which are cheaper than train but we must obviously go to the same stadiums and have not paid that much nor have we paid such a lot for a hotel, we use premier inns which are great places to stay for one night away."
Your from a completely different part of the country.......you state you drive and stay in a travel lodge,,,,we drink and party so dont drive..google train fares from Newcastle to London add to this 100 for two tickets..add 1 or 2 nights in a hotel...drinks food and 600 is prob a tad on the low end

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Both you and the OP have stated that the current pricing structure puts off 'good people' but haven't stated how. Most clubs have been doing this a long time, so have obviously decided that they'll take the risk that people are willing to pay the cost. However there is no way to decide from that whether they are bad or good people. What you and the OP are saying is that the cost is too high for you. Its a matter of opinion whether you and the OP are 'good people' though. of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it ,making the price fair isn't about getting good people as opposed to bad their are some pretty obnoxious wealthy people out their to ,its just about making the price fair ,if we both walk over the threshold of that club at the same time how is it fair you get in free or pay £10 and we pay much much more ?

. The prices seem perfectly fair to me .

Most single guys going to clubs do not want them to be flooded with men and accept that the pricing structure is set to prevent this happening .

No one is compelled to attend clubs and in addition no one is prevented from organising their own private parties if they believe that club pricing is unfair .

But why do they need a pricing structure to prevent clubs being flooded with single guys. Can they not just limit the amount of single guys, if that is what they want to avoid?"

Some do. Interestingly, those clubs also charge single men more.

I would not attend a club which restricted single men to a small number, or clubs that were couples & single females only.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

" of course the OP is saying that ,he goes regularly and is finding it more difficult affording to do it

so then the actually price isn't the stopping him from going as such..... it is stopping him from going as much as he would like to.....

thats a very "me-centric" arguement

My local club just moved premises, and added an admission charge for single women. There was no corresponding increase for single men. I have also not seen any rise in admission fees for single men in any of the clubs I attend.

Maybe you need to try a different club.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I didn't say it was to high for me I said the prices were getting high and would force good people away by good people I mean those that are verified genuine friendly and not pushy or rude

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

I didn't say it was to high for me I said the prices were getting high and would force good people away by good people I mean those that are verified genuine friendly and not pushy or rude"

It will also force bad people away. So the net effect will be neutral

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

We regularly go to prem football games all over the UK including London but we have never spent that much on tickets and hotels etc. We drive or use supporters coaches which are cheaper than train but we must obviously go to the same stadiums and have not paid that much nor have we paid such a lot for a hotel, we use premier inns which are great places to stay for one night away.Your from a completely different part of the country.......you state you drive and stay in a travel lodge,,,,we drink and party so dont drive..google train fares from Newcastle to London add to this 100 for two tickets..add 1 or 2 nights in a hotel...drinks food and 600 is prob a tad on the low end "

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I hope this thread gets closed as what was an observation, not about budgets or ability to pay but the fact it is becoming to expensive to justify visiting clubs has been blown out of proportion.

I can't believe that there is anyone that attends clubs can say there is obvious double standards when it comes to the management of single males.

And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"£100 for a night out is pretty good value I would have thought :

It's going to cost more than that got a " normal " night out;

Taxi/Train/parking;

Decent Dinner in a restaurant

Tickets to Theatre/ Concert/ cinema/ event.

If you can do that for under £100 quid, in any reasonable city in UK, I would like to know where!

You are pushed to get an edible dinner for 2 for under £100 .....Wow where do you eat......

50 quid a head each time you go out? Where glad we dont hang with you lol

ok another comparison is this

We regularly go to prem football games all over the UK including London but we have never spent that much on tickets and hotels etc. We drive or use supporters coaches which are cheaper than train but we must obviously go to the same stadiums and have not paid that much nor have we paid such a lot for a hotel, we use premier inns which are great places to stay for one night away.Your from a completely different part of the country.......you state you drive and stay in a travel lodge,,,,we drink and party so dont drive..google train fares from Newcastle to London add to this 100 for two tickets..add 1 or 2 nights in a hotel...drinks food and 600 is prob a tad on the low end

We (2 of us) go to prem games all over the country including London. We stay in a premierinn. We party, drink etc. The one thing going in our favour is that we live in the midlands so travel time is less for some games. We never spend that much or anywhere near it. "
ok £100 x2 train...£100 for two tickets £150 for a night in a hotel £100 drink food on the day is £550,where do you save?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally"

I'm one of those rare single women that men and couples go to clubs for, but my attitude is that, after years and years of the same posts coming up, nothing has changed, or will be.

I don't run clubs, I only use them. However why is my opinion any less valid than yours? Because I don't pay as much?

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"I hope this thread gets closed as what was an observation, not about budgets or ability to pay but the fact it is becoming to expensive to justify visiting clubs has been blown out of proportion.

I can't believe that there is anyone that attends clubs can say there is obvious double standards when it comes to the management of single males.

And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally"
. You posted your observation and are perfectly entitled to express an opinion .

What type of response were you expecting ?. Everyone to agree with you and state that the pricing structure is unfair .

The whole point of forums is to gather opinions which will be wide and diverse .

Ultimately clubs are commercial ventures and will set prices accordingly to supply and demand . I don't think fairness comes into it .

It may be unfair that lots of members are better looking than me , buy the iis nothing that I can do about it .

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally

I'm one of those rare single women that men and couples go to clubs for, but my attitude is that, after years and years of the same posts coming up, nothing has changed, or will be.

I don't run clubs, I only use them. However why is my opinion any less valid than yours? Because I don't pay as much?"

Again taken out of context

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally

I'm one of those rare single women that men and couples go to clubs for, but my attitude is that, after years and years of the same posts coming up, nothing has changed, or will be.

I don't run clubs, I only use them. However why is my opinion any less valid than yours? Because I don't pay as much?

Again taken out of context"

I disagree.

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By *retty FolliesCouple (FF) over a year ago

south

So many posts about the cost of clubs on here week in and week out...we all have a choice.

go or dont go!!

Nothing will change, these clubs are businesses, and if you think about it.........I doubt if you were the owner you wouldn't want to make as much money as you could.......

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"So many posts about the cost of clubs on here week in and week out...we all have a choice.

go or dont go!!

Nothing will change, these clubs are businesses, and if you think about it.........I doubt if you were the owner you wouldn't want to make as much money as you could......."
. The voice of reality and one which people have no chance but to accept .

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

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By *retty FolliesCouple (FF) over a year ago

south

"So many posts about the cost of clubs on here week in and week out...we all have a choice.

go or dont go!!

Nothing will change, these clubs are businesses, and if you think about it.........I doubt if you were the owner you wouldn't want to make as much money as you could........ The voice of reality and one which people have no chance but to accept .

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I hope this thread gets closed as what was an observation, not about budgets or ability to pay but the fact it is becoming to expensive to justify visiting clubs has been blown out of proportion.

I can't believe that there is anyone that attends clubs can say there is obvious double standards when it comes to the management of single males.

And clearly if the attitudes of so many are what has been displayed on this post then going to clubs or even being in this lifestyle is something that has to be reviewed personally"

Not going to lie had a cheeky little look around your profile and it seems you are questioning the lifestyle before you posted this thread (your status)

The club situation will never change while profit cost and quality is involved.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness "

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism

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By *atEvolutionCouple over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke.

At least once every 2/3 months we get calls or messages to ask what the costs are - particularly from single gents . . . we tell them it's £5 Lifetime Membership and £30 entrance. Then they will re-message or ask . . .

'Do I have to pay entrance every time I visit?'

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism"

I run my own globally successful business so yes I know what it takes to run a business it still doesn't detract from the fact single males are singled out as the cash cows of swinging clubs!!! FACT.

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By *retty FolliesCouple (FF) over a year ago

south

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism

I run my own globally successful business so yes I know what it takes to run a business it still doesn't detract from the fact single males are singled out as the cash cows of swinging clubs!!! FACT."

So dont go, and stop moaning.

You and others will not change how they seem fit to run THEIR business, as I am sure you run yours as YOU want too!!

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I think we are all aware that the pricing structure for swinger clubs are difficult. Everyone who goes to clubs knows that single men pay more, although not as much as some people on here assume.

If the OP had stated that visiting swinging clubs is becoming more expensive due to train fares, petrol prices, and hotel charges, then no-one would have disagreed. Moaning about club prices when no-one but the club owners can change anything will not make a scrap of difference. Then stating that anyone who disagrees with the fact its unfair should look at their own priorities is somewhat mealy mouthed. Of course its unfair. So are many other things that we have no control over yet live with.

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism

1. It is assumed that as a successful business you would earn sufficient not to be concerned about entrance fees to clubs

and

2. You would appreciate the importance of a businness making a profit .

Or am I missing something .

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

Visiting a swinger's club is neither mandatory nor is it essential for the continuation of life. It is a choice and those who cannot afford or do not wish to pay, will not be allowed to enter. It is as simple as that

Whilst the pricing is unequal (and it unequal for a reason), it is not unfair

People who buy holidays or airline seats or hotel rooms from last minute websites get these cheaper than the rest of us. So is that unfair too?

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

OP of course it is unfair.

Suck it up.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the thing about being as rich as you cliam to be.... you can then put your money where your mouth is....

so i'll be looking forward to coming to your club where everyone plays the same price......

cool.... whens it opening?????

as i have said i don't look at the person next to me and begrudge what they pay..... I look at what i would spend going to a club on a saturday night, and compare that to what i would be doing otherwise....

funny enough.... i spent about as much on my night out seeing star wars at the cinema in imax 3d as i would do going to a swinging club on a saturday.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle"
Blimey, all you said was that it was expensive as a single male.. And it is. The clubs could just limit all on a first come first served basis at the same cost. It does seem a very unfair way of regulating things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think we are all aware that the pricing structure for swinger clubs are difficult. Everyone who goes to clubs knows that single men pay more, although not as much as some people on here assume.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism"

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By *at69driveMan over a year ago

Hertford

"And herein lies the problem with some people in the swinging lifestyle Blimey, all you said was that it was expensive as a single male.. And it is. The clubs could just limit all on a first come first served basis at the same cost. It does seem a very unfair way of regulating things. "
. I am afraid it is just commercial reality . People are in businness to make money , I don't think fairness comes into it . I have yet to see a swingers club that charges all members equally . They would just be flooded with single men and would eventually go out of business ..

I attend various swingers clubs in Cap d Agde and they all have the same policy .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not convinced that every club actually operates at a profit....irrespective of it's entry level pricing policy,..

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Of course that would be fair on someone who had travelled miles and been stuck in traffic.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

and then you would get those who for example couldn't always book far enough in advance complaining.....

or if it is just those who turn up on the night first come first serve, those who couldn't get there early would complain........

sometimes people like complaining just for the sake of complaining......

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

However those who believe that charges are too high should start their own club and see how long they last in businness

bingo..... they all complain... but yet i have yet to see one put their own money behind it.... and risk what they have to put their own plan into action...

cool.... go to a bank, get a loan... you can then set up a business and you get to decide.....

heck... i'll even give you the name of this mythical club.... the utopian way!

people complain but yet i haven't seen one get off their arse and do....

like i said that some people decided flew over their head... some look at the comparison of envy.... others look at the comparison of realism

1. It is assumed that as a successful business you would earn sufficient not to be concerned about entrance fees to clubs

and

2. You would appreciate the importance of a businness making a profit .

Or am I missing something . "

And you are right on both counts but it is STILL expensive for single males FACT. You are all

Missing a very simple point it is EXPENSIVE for single males lol

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Missing a very simple point it is EXPENSIVE for single males lol"

No-one missed that point. You're just not reading the responses that agree.

But its not as expensive in most places as the place you go.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw

That depends on the club and the night I go.

Take abfabs for instance. I went on a straight night. They signed me up as a girl and were incredibly apologetic that they would have to charge me as a guy.

So could two guys be accepted as a couple.... I bet that would be an issue"

Blimey this zipped on while I've been gone!

Regards two guys getting in at a couples entry fee; no chance. They'd assume they were just two single guys. If they didn't guys would be able to just get together as they arrived and pretend to be a couple.

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By *xyzptlk088Man over a year ago

Galway

"As someone who finds clubs the more enjoyable way to meet and socialise in the swinging world, i am finding it becoming to expensive as a single guy to attend.

I know this is aimed at reducing single guys numbers and only having decent guys around but is there anyone else out there finding the prices a problem?"

Being able to pay high prices does not equate to being decent there are assholes from all walks of life and decent folk from all walks of life,the exorbitant fees are not a good way to ensure only decent guys.

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By *urvy_bi_honeyWoman over a year ago

Norwich

"It's not cheap for us girls either.

I spend a fortune to look this cheap and then I travel hours to get to a decent club.

Hotels, travelling and it's still not all that cheap to get in.

It's worth it, in my mind. I get what I want and have a fabulous evening. I've never left a club thinking I've wasted my money.

Do you pay less than a man?...serious question btw

That depends on the club and the night I go.

Take abfabs for instance. I went on a straight night. They signed me up as a girl and were incredibly apologetic that they would have to charge me as a guy.

So could two guys be accepted as a couple.... I bet that would be an issue

Blimey this zipped on while I've been gone!

What about if two women go together? Would they been seen as a couple and charged as so or seen as 2 single ladies?!

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By *estinysswingersCouple over a year ago

Worsley

We would never be able to afford over £100 on a visit. We do clubs as economically as possible. We only go to our local clubs and obviously take our own booze and never get a hotel. As with most life choices if something proves too expensive you stop doing it.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

Gran Canaria

I'd use the hair cut example but when people talk about fairness and business it's a pointless exercise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To be fair I would say most weekends we must be at about 100quid for a club visit between us. ..

Normally its at least 20-30quid on fuel. 20-30 to get in. About 10 for beer and or wine( if it's a bring your own ) more if it's not.

5-10 on a bar tab for soft drinks for me as I only have one glass of wine x

Then there is meals. Depending on what club we go they could be anything from 10 to as much as 40. ( we stop at the most amazing balti houses on the way back from either Manchester or chams)

Obviously on the rare occasion we stop over its money for kennels, sitters and a hotel too. Hence we do not very often stop over anywhere.

Add to that for me there is always stockings, eye lashes , and on occassion a costume for fancy dress... Then condoms as I can't use latex ones ... It all adds up x

But it has to be comparable to a night on the piss as Mr went out recently with the lads and spent best part of 100quid essily.

However this is all cheap compared to when I did my car events each week. And definitely cheaper than when going to a Match or race day for superbikes etc.

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