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"So would chams be shut to couples on that night ?" No, it would be open to couples as well as singles. There would be more single men and women in on that night though | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending? There would be a guest list for single men and they would enter the club as a guest, no membership required for that one night. Prices would need to be confirmed by the club but I'd imagine it would be around £40 per single male. I'm just trying to see what the numbers would be like to see if it's worth doing." no thanks x | |||
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"I'm not interested in couples I'm only interested in single guys so it sounds good to me " That's the whole point of this, there's not enough single men in clubs as far as I'm concerned lol. | |||
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"Like the idea but I think it would turn into a sausage fest lol " Oh good | |||
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"There would be a reasonable ratio of men to women. The list would be vetted by myself and club staff beforehand and anyone who acts like an idiot would be removed from the club." How would you "vett" people ? | |||
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"There would be a reasonable ratio of men to women. The list would be vetted by myself and club staff beforehand and anyone who acts like an idiot would be removed from the club. How would you "vett" people ?" Check veris, forum posts etc | |||
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"I'd be interested but as a member anyway I can get in There's a pretty high single guy ratio on a Friday night say, would it be similar or higher than that?" I have to disagree, most of my female friends agree too. It's predominantly couples | |||
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"There would be a reasonable ratio of men to women. The list would be vetted by myself and club staff beforehand and anyone who acts like an idiot would be removed from the club. How would you "vett" people ? Check veris, forum posts etc " Thats me left out then lol | |||
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"There would be a reasonable ratio of men to women. The list would be vetted by myself and club staff beforehand and anyone who acts like an idiot would be removed from the club. How would you "vett" people ? Check veris, forum posts etc Thats me left out then lol" That's for the single males, women can go in anyways. | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It would have to be a Wednesday or Thursday night or Sunday, other nights are already 'themed' Wednesday and Thursday too close Friday, the only advantage would be single male non-members could get in based on their fab-Id and as said before that would become a sausage fest I'll give it a miss, ps. I'm already a member as a couple and a single " I've already mentioned there would be a reasonable ratio between men and women, it would defeat the object if I only let men in. | |||
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"I'd be interested but as a member anyway I can get in There's a pretty high single guy ratio on a Friday night say, would it be similar or higher than that? I have to disagree, most of my female friends agree too. It's predominantly couples " I'll have to start going on Fridays again then, I stopped going on a Friday a year ago roughly because each time I went there was a big surplus of single guys If it's improved, from my point of view anyway, I'll give it a go again! | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It would have to be a Wednesday or Thursday night or Sunday, other nights are already 'themed' Wednesday and Thursday too close Friday, the only advantage would be single male non-members could get in based on their fab-Id and as said before that would become a sausage fest I'll give it a miss, ps. I'm already a member as a couple and a single I've already mentioned there would be a reasonable ratio between men and women, it would defeat the object if I only let men in." You're vetting and adjusting ratios lol Sounds like a power trip, I'll give it a miss thanks | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It would have to be a Wednesday or Thursday night or Sunday, other nights are already 'themed' Wednesday and Thursday too close Friday, the only advantage would be single male non-members could get in based on their fab-Id and as said before that would become a sausage fest I'll give it a miss, ps. I'm already a member as a couple and a single I've already mentioned there would be a reasonable ratio between men and women, it would defeat the object if I only let men in. You're vetting and adjusting ratios lol Sounds like a power trip, I'll give it a miss thanks" It isn't meant to sound that way, this was basically just an idea as my friends and I have noticed a lack of singles in the club. The club have told me there would need to be a decent ratio of men to women, hence the vetting. It was simply a harmless idea. | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It would have to be a Wednesday or Thursday night or Sunday, other nights are already 'themed' Wednesday and Thursday too close Friday, the only advantage would be single male non-members could get in based on their fab-Id and as said before that would become a sausage fest I'll give it a miss, ps. I'm already a member as a couple and a single I've already mentioned there would be a reasonable ratio between men and women, it would defeat the object if I only let men in. You're vetting and adjusting ratios lol Sounds like a power trip, I'll give it a miss thanks It isn't meant to sound that way, this was basically just an idea as my friends and I have noticed a lack of singles in the club. The club have told me there would need to be a decent ratio of men to women, hence the vetting. It was simply a harmless idea. " Ok sorry, I mis-judged it Well good work, keep the effort up, as I've said I'm already a member but hope it goes well for you and is a success Apologies xxx | |||
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"It was supposed to be beneficial to single men and women but it feels like the general opinion is negative, shame because I think it would have been worth trying. " | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It would have to be a Wednesday or Thursday night or Sunday, other nights are already 'themed' Wednesday and Thursday too close Friday, the only advantage would be single male non-members could get in based on their fab-Id and as said before that would become a sausage fest I'll give it a miss, ps. I'm already a member as a couple and a single I've already mentioned there would be a reasonable ratio between men and women, it would defeat the object if I only let men in. You're vetting and adjusting ratios lol Sounds like a power trip, I'll give it a miss thanks It isn't meant to sound that way, this was basically just an idea as my friends and I have noticed a lack of singles in the club. The club have told me there would need to be a decent ratio of men to women, hence the vetting. It was simply a harmless idea. " Im sure you and your friends attend more frequently than me, when do you think the ratio of single males seemed to decrease as traditionally clubs have been known for high rather then low ratios | |||
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"It was supposed to be beneficial to single men and women but it feels like the general opinion is negative, shame because I think it would have been worth trying. " Don't give up yet, your thread's only been up an hour. It sounds like a good idea to me. | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It wouldbea Wednesday Im sure you and your friends attend more frequently than me, when do you think the ratio of single males seemed to decrease as traditionally clubs have been known for high rather then low ratios " This isn't only about single males, I want single females to attend too. But a lot of single females want single men. I think the issue is that everyone wants the majority of people to just suit their tastes. | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It wouldbea Wednesday Im sure you and your friends attend more frequently than me, when do you think the ratio of single males seemed to decrease as traditionally clubs have been known for high rather then low ratios This isn't only about single males, I want single females to attend too. But a lot of single females want single men. I think the issue is that everyone wants the majority of people to just suit their tastes. " Well yes I won't deny I'd like a lot of single females to attend as well!! | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It wouldbea Wednesday Im sure you and your friends attend more frequently than me, when do you think the ratio of single males seemed to decrease as traditionally clubs have been known for high rather then low ratios This isn't only about single males, I want single females to attend too. But a lot of single females want single men. I think the issue is that everyone wants the majority of people to just suit their tastes. Well yes I won't deny I'd like a lot of single females to attend as well!!" Exactly my point. I want men, you want women, I'm trying to encourage more men AND women to attend. You need more men if you want more women because a lot of women want men lol. It doesn't seem like the idea will take off because people always moan about single men lol. | |||
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"But the club will still be open as normal to members? So other than the single guys who aren't already members you have little way of vetting who is there that night." The vetting would be so there wasn't an overwhelming amount of single men since that's the group that most people have an issue with. | |||
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"But the club will still be open as normal to members? So other than the single guys who aren't already members you have little way of vetting who is there that night. The vetting would be so there wasn't an overwhelming amount of single men since that's the group that most people have an issue with. " I understand that. But say you have 25 vetted and lovely men on your list but a further 30 fully paid up members of Chams who aren't on fab decide to go. There is little you can do about that as it is a regular club night. (just pulling numbers out of thin air before anyone asks where I get them from) | |||
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"But the club will still be open as normal to members? So other than the single guys who aren't already members you have little way of vetting who is there that night. The vetting would be so there wasn't an overwhelming amount of single men since that's the group that most people have an issue with. I understand that. But say you have 25 vetted and lovely men on your list but a further 30 fully paid up members of Chams who aren't on fab decide to go. There is little you can do about that as it is a regular club night. (just pulling numbers out of thin air before anyone asks where I get them from)" I'd obviously have to take into account the members but until the night I wouldn't know how many there would be. At the moment there seems to be an ok ratio between single men and women so I don't think it would make too much difference | |||
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"I'd be interested but as a member anyway I can get in There's a pretty high single guy ratio on a Friday night say, would it be similar or higher than that? I have to disagree, most of my female friends agree too. It's predominantly couples " When we went you couldn't move for single guys. A very predatory atmosphere and even saw a women get attacked. I cant imagine it with even more single guys | |||
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"But the club will still be open as normal to members? So other than the single guys who aren't already members you have little way of vetting who is there that night. The vetting would be so there wasn't an overwhelming amount of single men since that's the group that most people have an issue with. I understand that. But say you have 25 vetted and lovely men on your list but a further 30 fully paid up members of Chams who aren't on fab decide to go. There is little you can do about that as it is a regular club night. (just pulling numbers out of thin air before anyone asks where I get them from) I'd obviously have to take into account the members but until the night I wouldn't know how many there would be. At the moment there seems to be an ok ratio between single men and women so I don't think it would make too much difference " Any particular night you were thinking of doing this on? | |||
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"I'd be interested but as a member anyway I can get in There's a pretty high single guy ratio on a Friday night say, would it be similar or higher than that? I have to disagree, most of my female friends agree too. It's predominantly couples When we went you couldn't move for single guys. A very predatory atmosphere and even saw a women get attacked. I cant imagine it with even more single guys " That doesn't sound at all like the nights I'm there. I go every Friday and Sunday and I've never seen anything like that. Was the attacker reported? | |||
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"A good post by the op and it soon starts with the single guy bashing. " It's annoying because I never have an issue with single men in chams, they seem to get a lot of grief though. | |||
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"It was supposed to be beneficial to single men and women but it feels like the general opinion is negative, shame because I think it would have been worth trying. " The problem is that Friday nights are for singles so I don't get the difference in what your suggesting other than the place would be full of couples | |||
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"Well im a reg and week after week I hear the ladies complain "wheres all the single guys" there is no doubt whatsoever that the club is seriously left wanting on the single guy front. I don't understand the negativity, couples have their nite and we have bi nite so it seems only fair we give a singles night a whirl..if it don't work it don't work...hey we tried ?.....never gonna know until we do?" I thought that Friday nights were for singles? | |||
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"I'm not interested in couples I'm only interested in single guys so it sounds good to me That's the whole point of this, there's not enough single men in clubs as far as I'm concerned lol. " Agreed | |||
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"It was supposed to be beneficial to single men and women but it feels like the general opinion is negative, shame because I think it would have been worth trying. The problem is that Friday nights are for singles so I don't get the difference in what your suggesting other than the place would be full of couples " There isn't a singles night, every night except Mondays and Saturdays are for everyone. I didn't mention this being on a Friday, someone just asked what the difference would be between this night and Friday, it was just used as an example. | |||
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"Yes I'd definitely be interested as not into couples really. Could be fun! " Thanks a lot, we need more women to stand up and say they would also like to see more singles! | |||
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"Up north we call it 'greedy girls' where ratio is 3:1 men to women however, the problem u may have is if u mix with 'regular couples' with higher ratio of single men, youll find itll put regulars off especially couples/other single fems. Not all single women like groups of men following/watching them all night...very intimidating. So unless ur patrolling round to keep an eye on the guys it doesnt always work wen mixing in a normal night...not saying it wont but I have experienced this in several clubs n thats just with normal entry. Good luck if u go ahead with it " Thanks, I never witnessed the whole 'single men following' thing. I do see them a lot when there's a free for all in the round room but that's kinda the point of the round room lol. | |||
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"It was supposed to be beneficial to single men and women but it feels like the general opinion is negative, shame because I think it would have been worth trying. The problem is that Friday nights are for singles so I don't get the difference in what your suggesting other than the place would be full of couples There isn't a singles night, every night except Mondays and Saturdays are for everyone. I didn't mention this being on a Friday, someone just asked what the difference would be between this night and Friday, it was just used as an example. " Ah right okay | |||
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"Up north we call it 'greedy girls' where ratio is 3:1 men to women however, the problem u may have is if u mix with 'regular couples' with higher ratio of single men, youll find itll put regulars off especially couples/other single fems. Not all single women like groups of men following/watching them all night...very intimidating. So unless ur patrolling round to keep an eye on the guys it doesnt always work wen mixing in a normal night...not saying it wont but I have experienced this in several clubs n thats just with normal entry. Good luck if u go ahead with it Thanks, I never witnessed the whole 'single men following' thing. I do see them a lot when there's a free for all in the round room but that's kinda the point of the round room lol. " Wen I attend the greedy girls night or milf mondays...'all' the women know its a cock fest. Its so much fun. But on normal nights if the other guests are not expecting it n they turn up to a hoard of men hanging round the bar its off putting. Its getting the word out to make sure all guests are aware wot night it is | |||
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"Up north we call it 'greedy girls' where ratio is 3:1 men to women however, the problem u may have is if u mix with 'regular couples' with higher ratio of single men, youll find itll put regulars off especially couples/other single fems. Not all single women like groups of men following/watching them all night...very intimidating. So unless ur patrolling round to keep an eye on the guys it doesnt always work wen mixing in a normal night...not saying it wont but I have experienced this in several clubs n thats just with normal entry. Good luck if u go ahead with it Thanks, I never witnessed the whole 'single men following' thing. I do see them a lot when there's a free for all in the round room but that's kinda the point of the round room lol. Wen I attend the greedy girls night or milf mondays...'all' the women know its a cock fest. Its so much fun. But on normal nights if the other guests are not expecting it n they turn up to a hoard of men hanging round the bar its off putting. Its getting the word out to make sure all guests are aware wot night it is " If it goes ahead I intend to make a massive deal of it so everyone is aware. | |||
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"Up north we call it 'greedy girls' where ratio is 3:1 men to women however, the problem u may have is if u mix with 'regular couples' with higher ratio of single men, youll find itll put regulars off especially couples/other single fems. Not all single women like groups of men following/watching them all night...very intimidating. So unless ur patrolling round to keep an eye on the guys it doesnt always work wen mixing in a normal night...not saying it wont but I have experienced this in several clubs n thats just with normal entry. Good luck if u go ahead with it Thanks, I never witnessed the whole 'single men following' thing. I do see them a lot when there's a free for all in the round room but that's kinda the point of the round room lol. Wen I attend the greedy girls night or milf mondays...'all' the women know its a cock fest. Its so much fun. But on normal nights if the other guests are not expecting it n they turn up to a hoard of men hanging round the bar its off putting. Its getting the word out to make sure all guests are aware wot night it is If it goes ahead I intend to make a massive deal of it so everyone is aware. " Brilliant...Ill be keeping an eye out for this! | |||
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"Up north we call it 'greedy girls' where ratio is 3:1 men to women however, the problem u may have is if u mix with 'regular couples' with higher ratio of single men, youll find itll put regulars off especially couples/other single fems. Not all single women like groups of men following/watching them all night...very intimidating. So unless ur patrolling round to keep an eye on the guys it doesnt always work wen mixing in a normal night...not saying it wont but I have experienced this in several clubs n thats just with normal entry. Good luck if u go ahead with it Thanks, I never witnessed the whole 'single men following' thing. I do see them a lot when there's a free for all in the round room but that's kinda the point of the round room lol. Wen I attend the greedy girls night or milf mondays...'all' the women know its a cock fest. Its so much fun. But on normal nights if the other guests are not expecting it n they turn up to a hoard of men hanging round the bar its off putting. Its getting the word out to make sure all guests are aware wot night it is If it goes ahead I intend to make a massive deal of it so everyone is aware. Brilliant...Ill be keeping an eye out for this! " Good | |||
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"Why I don't understand is that I'm a single guy and can't get a membership at charms as its full and there is a waiting list! Perhaps they should revoke membership if someone hasn't been for over a year, give the rest of us keen fellas a chance" Like this idea I also would need to know I could get in before I travelled down as the cost of membership then the idea it's a lotto as to if you get in on the night or not is off putting if this night was run on a fab guest list then that would be a good way of making it worth will no.shows banned for the event and this could work | |||
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"Why I don't understand is that I'm a single guy and can't get a membership at charms as its full and there is a waiting list! Perhaps they should revoke membership if someone hasn't been for over a year, give the rest of us keen fellas a chance Like this idea I also would need to know I could get in before I travelled down as the cost of membership then the idea it's a lotto as to if you get in on the night or not is off putting if this night was run on a fab guest list then that would be a good way of making it worth will no.shows banned for the event and this could work " Exactly, it also gives people a chance to 'try before you buy'. | |||
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" Like this idea I also would need to know I could get in before I travelled down as the cost of membership then the idea it's a lotto as to if you get in on the night or not is off putting if this night was run on a fab guest list then that would be a good way of making it worth will no.shows banned for the event and this could work Exactly, it also gives people a chance to 'try before you buy'." And i guess gives them the chance to see how we conduct ourselves before giving membership | |||
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"Why I don't understand is that I'm a single guy and can't get a membership at charms as its full and there is a waiting list! Perhaps they should revoke membership if someone hasn't been for over a year, give the rest of us keen fellas a chance" Chams single guy membership is only for 12 months, so if they haven't been in over a year the membership is invalid. | |||
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"So basically a chance for non member single guys whether they realise the etiquette of the club or not to come in." No actually, it's a chance for single people to come and socialise in a place where they know there will be singles. There are so many couples in clubs that it's hard for singles to get together. Of course I've spoken to the club manager about it, I wouldn't offer out a venue without doing so. Basically this thread is to find out who, if anyone, would be interested, not to slag off single guys. This was my idea that I pitched to the club because I've heard many people mention the lack of singles at chams. I'd appreciate it if people could keep the negativity to a minimum, if you're not interested in the night, just pass over the thread. | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending? There would be a guest list for single men and they would enter the club as a guest, no membership required for that one night. Prices would need to be confirmed by the club but I'd imagine it would be around £40 per single male. I'm just trying to see what the numbers would be like to see if it's worth doing." Depending on which evening, I'd be interested. Please keep me in the loop and in mind. Thank you. | |||
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"So basically a chance for non member single guys whether they realise the etiquette of the club or not to come in. No actually, it's a chance for single people to come and socialise in a place where they know there will be singles. There are so many couples in clubs that it's hard for singles to get together. Of course I've spoken to the club manager about it, I wouldn't offer out a venue without doing so. Basically this thread is to find out who, if anyone, would be interested, not to slag off single guys. This was my idea that I pitched to the club because I've heard many people mention the lack of singles at chams. I'd appreciate it if people could keep the negativity to a minimum, if you're not interested in the night, just pass over the thread. " | |||
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"I'd be interested but as a member anyway I can get in There's a pretty high single guy ratio on a Friday night say, would it be similar or higher than that? I have to disagree, most of my female friends agree too. It's predominantly couples When we went you couldn't move for single guys. A very predatory atmosphere and even saw a women get attacked. I cant imagine it with even more single guys That doesn't sound at all like the nights I'm there. I go every Friday and Sunday and I've never seen anything like that. Was the attacker reported? " We was reported and asked to leave. But I don't know if he was barred or anything like that. We were there on a Friday night, there must have been 4-5 men per woman. Lots of following around. | |||
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" We was reported and asked to leave. But I don't know if he was barred or anything like that. We were there on a Friday night, there must have been 4-5 men per woman. Lots of following around." I'm sure the ratio of single men is based upon the amount of couples AND single women in the club so if they have a load of couples in they let more men in. It might seem there are a lot of men but if you compare it to the amount of couples it isn't that bad. | |||
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" We was reported and asked to leave. But I don't know if he was barred or anything like that. We were there on a Friday night, there must have been 4-5 men per woman. Lots of following around. I'm sure the ratio of single men is based upon the amount of couples AND single women in the club so if they have a load of couples in they let more men in. It might seem there are a lot of men but if you compare it to the amount of couples it isn't that bad." Different people like different things, obviously this applies to clubs too. Chams on a Friday nights didn't suit how we like to play, but it could be perfect for others. If you think there is a demand for a night with more single guys then I hope it goes well for you. I think it's great to see people who are willing to try new things to try and make the lifestyle even better. | |||
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"That's the whole point of this, there's not enough single men in clubs as far as I'm concerned lol. Agreed" You sure about this, or do you mean there aren't enough SUITABLE single men? I know there are plenty of men who only go into the bar twice in one night - on the way in, and on the way out. Where they go, I have no idea, but if you were to go and start playing in an open room, it would soon become like a scene from an African wildlife documentary - out of an empty clear blue sky, a single vulture appears and homes in on the stricken antelope...5 minutes later there's dozens of vultures clambering over the top of each other to get to their dinner. If, however, you are sitting in the bar all night drumming your fingers, you might think there are "not enough single men" in there. Of course, prowling around upstairs, are a gaggle of single blokes who are bemoaning the fact there are "no single women" in the place. You can lead a horse to water... | |||
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"No actually, it's a chance for single people to come and socialise in a place where they know there will be singles. " But as was demonstrated in another thread I saw earlier, it seems that socialising eats into the "shags per hour/entry fee" ratio It's sad to say, but if there were 25 single women in the bar, yet two were upstairs with, um, "their hands full", guess where two-thirds of the single men in the club would be... | |||
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"That's the whole point of this, there's not enough single men in clubs as far as I'm concerned lol. Agreed You sure about this, or do you mean there aren't enough SUITABLE single men? I know there are plenty of men who only go into the bar twice in one night - on the way in, and on the way out. Where they go, I have no idea, but if you were to go and start playing in an open room, it would soon become like a scene from an African wildlife documentary - out of an empty clear blue sky, a single vulture appears and homes in on the stricken antelope...5 minutes later there's dozens of vultures clambering over the top of each other to get to their dinner. If, however, you are sitting in the bar all night drumming your fingers, you might think there are "not enough single men" in there. Of course, prowling around upstairs, are a gaggle of single blokes who are bemoaning the fact there are "no single women" in the place. You can lead a horse to water..." I agree about the open room thing, but if you play in an open room you should expect an audience and people trying to join in. I often walk around the club and yes, there are single men but I've never known them to be as predatory and boisterous as people here have mentioned. At the end of the day this is still just an idea, it wasn't an open debate about the behaviour of single guys. I'm just trying to see if there's enough interest to make it a viable option. If you're not interested you don't need to comment with negativity, just move onto the next thread. | |||
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"I agree about the open room thing, but if you play in an open room you should expect an audience and people trying to join in. I often walk around the club and yes, there are single men but I've never known them to be as predatory and boisterous as people here have mentioned. At the end of the day this is still just an idea, it wasn't an open debate about the behaviour of single guys. I'm just trying to see if there's enough interest to make it a viable option. If you're not interested you don't need to comment with negativity, just move onto the next thread. " Obviously you missed the point. I wasn't commenting on the behaviour of the single men*, I was saying there already are plenty of them in the place. In the same way I'd say to those men that there are single women there, contrary to their belief that it's a single woman-free zone. You are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. What I was saying was that the idea of organising a singles' night is largely pissing into the wind, because to a large proportion of the target, this means chatting nicely in the bar, getting to know one another, making new friends. However, to the other large proportion of the target, they would expect a night where "single meets single, they go upstairs and fuck". Both groups are likely to be unimpressed by the other's idea of a "singles night". I'm not trying to be negative, just pointing out that your problem isn't the amount of single men, or women, in the place, they are already there - it's changing how they interact. Bringing in a bus-load of single men might not solve your problem, they might all just troop upstairs to prepare their mighty love-sausages for the orgy to come (or not, as the case may be). Whilst some women are moaning about the apparent lack of single men, upstairs, I assure you, there are just as many men complaining that no "serious" single women go to the club, that they apparently go to sit about all night talking or smoking instead of playing. (Again, I'm not commenting on the validity of that view, just pointing out the difference in how different people see the club - as was demonstrated so wonderfully in that other thread that got locked) *How they behave doesn't affect me, I couldn't care less. I'm happy to let them wear the carpet out upstairs, while they wait for the women to tire of talking and come up to grab them for filthy sex - I'm downstairs chatting to those women in the bar. Guess who generally has the better outcome? | |||
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"OP, I'm not trying to bash the idea, but perhaps something that might help with the situation you describe, and that others point out as a barrier, is the identification of who is single, and who is part of a couple. You said you would have a mix of singles and couples, so how about something like wrist bands: Green = single (man or woman) & wants to play with other singles Yellow = part of a couple & looking to play with other couples Purple = to be worn in addition to green or yellow, means looking to play with singles or couples. Perhaps the women would then be able to see which men are truely interested in meeting other singles, and which are hedging their bets and will try and get their leg over in whatever combination! Obviously conversations could then be had about bisexual, or same sex play. Also wrist bands would be an indicator, rather than a binding contract as to who can play with who etc. Just an idea, it might be a shit one, but im just throwing it out there! " I think wristbands is a good idea, they have it in clubs in Europe and call it the traffic lights system, lol. A good way to identify who is single and who is part of a couple in the club. | |||
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"OP, if you believe it can work, then go for it. Get a couple of people to help you with organising the guest list. Sell tickets in advance to reduce no shows and to cover your costs. Maybe consider other venues as well. Chams seems to be open every night of the week, perhaps find a club where they are not, and hire the venue for an evening? If you believe in it, and you really think there is a gap in the market, then go for it " Thanks for that, I really do think it would work well if I can get the women in. | |||
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"Right, just gonna answer everyone in one post. I didn't mean to sound defensive in any of my posts, I wasnt expecting as much of a negative reaction. The reason I don't know about costs is that I just mentioned this idea to the manager and we agreed I needed to find out if enough people would be interested to make it worth while. Again I'm going to say, this is for single men AND women, it would never work if there weren't enough women. Maybe I am only noticing that there aren't men that suit my tastes but I've heard several women state that we need more singles and all of them couldn't only be attracted to the same type of man as me. I have a feeling this won't go ahead anyways, it seems pointless as everyone just keeps bitching about it being a sausage fest, failing to see the amount of times I've mentioned that there would only be enough men allowed to go that made a suitable ratio between women and singles. Everyone I spoke to in the club thought it was a good idea and I had great feedback from women who don't play with couples or would prefer more men and single women to play with. " Can't say id mind a sausage fest to be fair, I definitely don't think enough single men got to clubs (when I've been to one anyway). What ratio were you thinking of? | |||
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"Right, just gonna answer everyone in one post. I didn't mean to sound defensive in any of my posts, I wasnt expecting as much of a negative reaction. The reason I don't know about costs is that I just mentioned this idea to the manager and we agreed I needed to find out if enough people would be interested to make it worth while. Again I'm going to say, this is for single men AND women, it would never work if there weren't enough women. Maybe I am only noticing that there aren't men that suit my tastes but I've heard several women state that we need more singles and all of them couldn't only be attracted to the same type of man as me. I have a feeling this won't go ahead anyways, it seems pointless as everyone just keeps bitching about it being a sausage fest, failing to see the amount of times I've mentioned that there would only be enough men allowed to go that made a suitable ratio between women and singles. Everyone I spoke to in the club thought it was a good idea and I had great feedback from women who don't play with couples or would prefer more men and single women to play with. Can't say id mind a sausage fest to be fair, I definitely don't think enough single men got to clubs (when I've been to one anyway). What ratio were you thinking of? " I'm not sure, it's still just an idea. I personally would love a sausage fest but I'm trying to make it for everyone | |||
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"I am confused that the OP has spoken to the Club Manager but cannot state how much it would be. I assume all the OP wants to do is make an event with a guestlist which means no membership is needed. Usual entrance fee would therefore apply would it not? I will be following very carefully when this event will be as myself and my partner go on a Wednesday so need to ensure we don't turn up for a sausage fest... Anyway we find it empties out on a Weds about 5pm as most have to get back to their wives..." Why are you confused? The op has chatted to the club manager, they both feel it's an idea to explore. Step 2, explore....... See if there's enough interest and move on from there. The op is still at step 2 and probably wondering why the hell she bothered. | |||
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"I am confused that the OP has spoken to the Club Manager but cannot state how much it would be. I assume all the OP wants to do is make an event with a guestlist which means no membership is needed. Usual entrance fee would therefore apply would it not? I will be following very carefully when this event will be as myself and my partner go on a Wednesday so need to ensure we don't turn up for a sausage fest... Anyway we find it empties out on a Weds about 5pm as most have to get back to their wives... Why are you confused? The op has chatted to the club manager, they both feel it's an idea to explore. Step 2, explore....... See if there's enough interest and move on from there. The op is still at step 2 and probably wondering why the hell she bothered. " Step 1 - the club manager would indicate at that initial discussion how much it would be. All the OP has to do is just what any of us do who set up an event at Chams. Advise the club, advertise it in here, form a guest list - set out whatever parameters they wish for people to be on the guest list - and people on that list don't need membership. Submit the guest list to the club about 48hrs before the event and voila...you have your singles night. Its not a big deal or debate - just do it. As people have said the club will be open for members anyway but its the guys getting in without membership that is key and for that they need to be on the list. My advice to the OP - just do it - put it on forums and advertise it. Don't invite debate from the doubters and those who don't want to go just ask for people to put their name down. It isn't for me or my partner but I wish anyone who wishes to further the popularity of swinging well and Chams is, in my opinion, the best place to do it. | |||
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"How would it differ from a normal Friday night ? It wouldbea Wednesday Im sure you and your friends attend more frequently than me, when do you think the ratio of single males seemed to decrease as traditionally clubs have been known for high rather then low ratios This isn't only about single males, I want single females to attend too. But a lot of single females want single men. I think the issue is that everyone wants the majority of people to just suit their tastes. Well yes I won't deny I'd like a lot of single females to attend as well!! Exactly my point. I want men, you want women, I'm trying to encourage more men AND women to attend. You need more men if you want more women because a lot of women want men lol. It doesn't seem like the idea will take off because people always moan about single men lol. " Hey I think it's a great idea! If it's on a night when I can make it I'd definitely attend! Need lots of hot young guys with great bodies - pretty please!! | |||
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"I am confused that the OP has spoken to the Club Manager but cannot state how much it would be. I assume all the OP wants to do is make an event with a guestlist which means no membership is needed. Usual entrance fee would therefore apply would it not? I will be following very carefully when this event will be as myself and my partner go on a Wednesday so need to ensure we don't turn up for a sausage fest... Anyway we find it empties out on a Weds about 5pm as most have to get back to their wives... Why are you confused? The op has chatted to the club manager, they both feel it's an idea to explore. Step 2, explore....... See if there's enough interest and move on from there. The op is still at step 2 and probably wondering why the hell she bothered. Step 1 - the club manager would indicate at that initial discussion how much it would be. All the OP has to do is just what any of us do who set up an event at Chams. Advise the club, advertise it in here, form a guest list - set out whatever parameters they wish for people to be on the guest list - and people on that list don't need membership. Submit the guest list to the club about 48hrs before the event and voila...you have your singles night. Its not a big deal or debate - just do it. As people have said the club will be open for members anyway but its the guys getting in without membership that is key and for that they need to be on the list. My advice to the OP - just do it - put it on forums and advertise it. Don't invite debate from the doubters and those who don't want to go just ask for people to put their name down. It isn't for me or my partner but I wish anyone who wishes to further the popularity of swinging well and Chams is, in my opinion, the best place to do it. " You're assuming that the op and the rest of us know that; "All the OP has to do is just what any of us do who set up an event at Chams." I've never set one up there and never been to chams. Can't speak for the op, although she's obviously been there. Just because you know everything and have an intimate knowledge of the venue and process, don't assume the rest of us do. | |||
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"If it was a singles night and couples were banned from going then it would get a big thumbs up from me OP! I'm sick to death of couples whining and thinking they own swinging clubs. " | |||
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"If it was a singles night and couples were banned from going then it would get a big thumbs up from me OP! I'm sick to death of couples whining and thinking they own swinging clubs. " There are couples only nights, and mixed couples and singles nights, so there is no reason why singles shouldn't have a night too. | |||
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"If it was a singles night and couples were banned from going then it would get a big thumbs up from me OP! I'm sick to death of couples whining and thinking they own swinging clubs. " | |||
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"Jeez man did any of you actually read the post! It's to give single men who ARE NOT members the opportunity to go... If it's held on a Friday when single men CAN go then what's the moaning about! Couples who attend a Friday are fully aware single men attend so if you're not interested In single men DON'T go on the Friday! It will also give some men the opportunity to possibly be offered amembership, going by their mannerisms and attitude. Of course those being added to the list will need to be considered and have certain things taken into account, Llike how long they've been on the site and if any verifications... Not like you'd want someone added who's been on the site over a year with no veris. Think needs to be a mixture if different ages, sizes etc as everyone has a different taste to who they're attracted to. Think it's a great idea, I went chams Friday and would have definitely liked a more variety of single men there... But hey I go with the attitude that they'll be people there I can talk to either way and anything else would be a plus Do it OP! " | |||
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"I've just got in from a night out and expected half a dozen more negative posts, thanks to those of you that are supporting what is still just an idea. Westy68, I didn't invite debate, as the title of this thread says, I'm asking if it's something people would be interested in. I'm not asking what people who wouldn't go their opinion but I got it anyway. I haven't discussed the final details with the club because we agreed to find out if it's something people would be interested in before sorting out the details. Please people, if it's not for you then just pass over the thread, I've asked all along for people who ARE interested. Apologies if I sound like a bitch but I was hoping that people would see this for what it is, an idea to cater for some people that feel like their night would be made better by having more singles around, men or women. " hey sexy have you not been in threads before surely you are not naive enough to think people won't pass comment negative or positive ?? That's the point and not just that some people write for the most part unintelligible essays especially at this time of night ,common sense should have told you a night without men wouldn't be the most popular anyway we are after all irreplaceable | |||
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"It seemed like some were more worried that they wouldn't be able to attend the club on the night it was set, or that they didn't want loads of men there. So best to do it on a night men can go (which is most) just avoid bi night and Saturday's and probably naked night too as not everyone's cup of tea. They hold a BBW every month and that's not to everyone's taste, so I don't see why most are jumping on the band wagon over one singles night being arranged. " Honey it's because many people like nothing better than to complain. It makes them feel good! I'm definitely up for this if it happens if I can make it! I really like chams as a club but I think it's lacking young, hot, fit males. I'm told this is because there's a long waiting list for membership and when guys DO get a membership they tend to go pretty much until retirement. Not sure how true this is though? X | |||
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" I'm told this is because there's a long waiting list for membership and when guys DO get a membership they tend to go pretty much until retirement. Not sure how true this is though? X" It isn't true. Pure rumour, they DO however have vet applicants to ascertain their suitability to the club .... And why not, demands outstripping supply so they can afford to provide what they see as a "better class of single guy" | |||
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"It seemed like some were more worried that they wouldn't be able to attend the club on the night it was set, or that they didn't want loads of men there. So best to do it on a night men can go (which is most) just avoid bi night and Saturday's and probably naked night too as not everyone's cup of tea. They hold a BBW every month and that's not to everyone's taste, so I don't see why most are jumping on the band wagon over one singles night being arranged. Honey it's because many people like nothing better than to complain. It makes them feel good! I'm definitely up for this if it happens if I can make it! I really like chams as a club but I think it's lacking young, hot, fit males. I'm told this is because there's a long waiting list for membership and when guys DO get a membership they tend to go pretty much until retirement. Not sure how true this is though? X" Recently it has felt like memberships have been renewed until retirement, with the odd one or two... but personally I don't want to fuck anyone old enough to be my Dad! So more younger ones would be good... I also think the cost puts some males of, but like some have said before, they spend more on a night out with the 'lads', so here you pay around £40, get access to wet areas, a chance to meet new people and hope things go further, or just have live porn lol. What does a typical spa day cost.. around £30- £50 anyway. | |||
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"So who decides what constitutes a 'better class of single guy'? Agreed the men in there are all polite etc - but when choosing a partner to have sexy with then looks are paramount - and that's where chams seems to fall a little. The only six pack I've ever seen there was in a bargain booze bag!! " Now, how would it be if a bloke said that he'd be right up for a singles' night if they had some hot firm-bodied young maidens there because he was unimpressed with the saggy-titted, stretch-marked old boilers that currently inhabit the place? Would that be an acceptable attitude? Hmmm... | |||
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"So who decides what constitutes a 'better class of single guy'? Agreed the men in there are all polite etc - but when choosing a partner to have sexy with then looks are paramount - and that's where chams seems to fall a little. The only six pack I've ever seen there was in a bargain booze bag!! Now, how would it be if a bloke said that he'd be right up for a singles' night if they had some hot firm-bodied young maidens there because he was unimpressed with the saggy-titted, stretch-marked old boilers that currently inhabit the place? Would that be an acceptable attitude? Hmmm..." The thought of someone somewhere 'vetting' which single guys get membership totally puts me off. There are plenty of other clubs that allow single guys to attend without any kind of selection process. Think I'll stick to those. | |||
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"So who decides what constitutes a 'better class of single guy'? Agreed the men in there are all polite etc - but when choosing a partner to have sexy with then looks are paramount - and that's where chams seems to fall a little. The only six pack I've ever seen there was in a bargain booze bag!! Now, how would it be if a bloke said that he'd be right up for a singles' night if they had some hot firm-bodied young maidens there because he was unimpressed with the saggy-titted, stretch-marked old boilers that currently inhabit the place? Would that be an acceptable attitude? Hmmm..." Yeah if that's what he wants and thinks - why shouldn't people feel free to say what they're looking for? I look ok for an old un but I'm not a hot bodied 25 year old any more - and if that's what a guy wants in a meet then I'd love it if he had the guts to say so rather than coming out with the 'every woman is gorgeous and wonderful' stuff which is constantly bandied about in most forum threads!! Rant over! | |||
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"Jeez man did any of you actually read the post! It's to give single men who ARE NOT members the opportunity to go... If it's held on a Friday when single men CAN go then what's the moaning about! Couples who attend a Friday are fully aware single men attend so if you're not interested In single men DON'T go on the Friday! It will also give some men the opportunity to possibly be offered amembership, going by their mannerisms and attitude. Of course those being added to the list will need to be considered and have certain things taken into account, Llike how long they've been on the site and if any verifications... Not like you'd want someone added who's been on the site over a year with no veris. Think needs to be a mixture if different ages, sizes etc as everyone has a different taste to who they're attracted to. Think it's a great idea, I went chams Friday and would have definitely liked a more variety of single men there... But hey I go with the attitude that they'll be people there I can talk to either way and anything else would be a plus Do it OP! " | |||
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"Why not just lower the price for single men if you want more in? I for one wouldn't dream of paying 40/50 for entrance to a club. Understand the reasons why but think it puts most genuine guys off. " But surely if you understand the reason why it shouldnt put the genuine ones off? I've been to clubs that charge £20 and it feels like a knuckle dragging contest is going on. There's plenty men on here stating they'd attend, whether genuine or not who knows, but if willing to pay then they're genuine in my eyes... Also not the OPs decision on price | |||
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"Yeah if that's what he wants and thinks - why shouldn't people feel free to say what they're looking for? I look ok for an old un but I'm not a hot bodied 25 year old any more - and if that's what a guy wants in a meet then I'd love it if he had the guts to say so rather than coming out with the 'every woman is gorgeous and wonderful' stuff which is constantly bandied about in most forum threads!! Rant over! " I say the truth in my threads, and I regularly unleash the Forum beasts/crazies | |||
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"So who decides what constitutes a 'better class of single guy'? Agreed the men in there are all polite etc - but when choosing a partner to have sexy with then looks are paramount - and that's where chams seems to fall a little. The only six pack I've ever seen there was in a bargain booze bag!! Now, how would it be if a bloke said that he'd be right up for a singles' night if they had some hot firm-bodied young maidens there because he was unimpressed with the saggy-titted, stretch-marked old boilers that currently inhabit the place? Would that be an acceptable attitude? Hmmm... The thought of someone somewhere 'vetting' which single guys get membership totally puts me off. There are plenty of other clubs that allow single guys to attend without any kind of selection process. Think I'll stick to those. " I missed this comment when I was reading the thread. The 'vetting' would merely be checking veris, how they act on the forums just to keep the numbers down. The likelihood that someone who constantly abused people on the forums would be a nice person in real life is quite slim. | |||
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"No different really from a normal night,in fact normally there's too many guys acting like pushy bastards anyway with the attitude of I've paid my money now I want my lay!!!!!!" Can I ask what you're basing this on please? I've been to pretty much every club in the north west many times - and other clubs including Chams - and I've never experienced this! Yes the men tend to outnumber the women - but even when I've been one of very few women amongst many men and made it obvious that I'm not 'greedy' the men have been nothing other than charming and friendly! A club doesn't become 'Lord of the flies' if they allow more men than women! X | |||
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"So who decides what constitutes a 'better class of single guy'? Agreed the men in there are all polite etc - but when choosing a partner to have sexy with then looks are paramount - and that's where chams seems to fall a little. The only six pack I've ever seen there was in a bargain booze bag!! Now, how would it be if a bloke said that he'd be right up for a singles' night if they had some hot firm-bodied young maidens there because he was unimpressed with the saggy-titted, stretch-marked old boilers that currently inhabit the place? Would that be an acceptable attitude? Hmmm... The thought of someone somewhere 'vetting' which single guys get membership totally puts me off. There are plenty of other clubs that allow single guys to attend without any kind of selection process. Think I'll stick to those. I missed this comment when I was reading the thread. The 'vetting' would merely be checking veris, how they act on the forums just to keep the numbers down. The likelihood that someone who constantly abused people on the forums would be a nice person in real life is quite slim. " Fair enough. | |||
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"No different really from a normal night,in fact normally there's too many guys acting like pushy bastards anyway with the attitude of I've paid my money now I want my lay!!!!!! Can I ask what you're basing this on please? I've been to pretty much every club in the north west many times - and other clubs including Chams - and I've never experienced this! Yes the men tend to outnumber the women - but even when I've been one of very few women amongst many men and made it obvious that I'm not 'greedy' the men have been nothing other than charming and friendly! A club doesn't become 'Lord of the flies' if they allow more men than women! X" Another user did create a post about how he had paid so much money to go to a club and was disappointed in the lack of action he got (apparently not enough females but there was as I was there so I saw how many) | |||
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"No different really from a normal night,in fact normally there's too many guys acting like pushy bastards anyway with the attitude of I've paid my money now I want my lay!!!!!! Can I ask what you're basing this on please? I've been to pretty much every club in the north west many times - and other clubs including Chams - and I've never experienced this! Yes the men tend to outnumber the women - but even when I've been one of very few women amongst many men and made it obvious that I'm not 'greedy' the men have been nothing other than charming and friendly! A club doesn't become 'Lord of the flies' if they allow more men than women! X Another user did create a post about how he had paid so much money to go to a club and was disappointed in the lack of action he got (apparently not enough females but there was as I was there so I saw how many) " | |||
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"I'm actually pretty disgusted by all the nastiness about single men, in general the men in chams are polite and not pushy at all. Obviously there are the odd one who is a pleb but that's the same everywhere. " There are pushy and unpolite women everywhere too | |||
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"Why not just lower the price for single men if you want more in? I for one wouldn't dream of paying 40/50 for entrance to a club. Understand the reasons why but think it puts most genuine guys off. " It puts genuine guys off? So all the guys I've seen in clubs must have been fakes then! Perhaps they were women in disguise? | |||
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"Why not just lower the price for single men if you want more in? I for one wouldn't dream of paying 40/50 for entrance to a club. Understand the reasons why but think it puts most genuine guys off. It puts genuine guys off? So all the guys I've seen in clubs must have been fakes then! Perhaps they were women in disguise? " £50 is too much. Full stop | |||
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"Why not just lower the price for single men if you want more in? I for one wouldn't dream of paying 40/50 for entrance to a club. Understand the reasons why but think it puts most genuine guys off. It puts genuine guys off? So all the guys I've seen in clubs must have been fakes then! Perhaps they were women in disguise? £50 is too much. Full stop" If you have a membership its not £50 quid entry fee to chams though. I think it is about £35 entry free for single guys once you have a membership, and they do a Lloyalty system where you get a card, and have it stamped on each vist, when you get 6 stamps, every sixth visit is free entry. Personally i think that is a good deal. | |||
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"Right, just gonna answer everyone in one post. I didn't mean to sound defensive in any of my posts, I wasnt expecting as much of a negative reaction. The reason I don't know about costs is that I just mentioned this idea to the manager and we agreed I needed to find out if enough people would be interested to make it worth while. Again I'm going to say, this is for single men AND women, it would never work if there weren't enough women. Maybe I am only noticing that there aren't men that suit my tastes but I've heard several women state that we need more singles and all of them couldn't only be attracted to the same type of man as me. I have a feeling this won't go ahead anyways, it seems pointless as everyone just keeps bitching about it being a sausage fest, failing to see the amount of times I've mentioned that there would only be enough men allowed to go that made a suitable ratio between women and singles. Everyone I spoke to in the club thought it was a good idea and I had great feedback from women who don't play with couples or would prefer more men and single women to play with. Can't say id mind a sausage fest to be fair, I definitely don't think enough single men got to clubs (when I've been to one anyway). What ratio were you thinking of? I'm not sure, it's still just an idea. I personally would love a sausage fest but I'm trying to make it for everyone " Great idea, never enough single men there lately | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending?" I note on your profile that you have a personal age bracket of 29-43. Is that the age range that you are trying to attract or can younger guys and us "over-43's" come as well? Guys who are existing members only need to pay £33 anyway, so is your indicated £40 for the non-members only? | |||
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"Every 5 stamps. £35 is still a lot!?" I don't know how much you usually spend on a night out but when you bear in mind you take your own alcohol it's not an expensive night at all. | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending? I note on your profile that you have a personal age bracket of 29-43. Is that the age range that you are trying to attract or can younger guys and us "over-43's" come as well? Guys who are existing members only need to pay £33 anyway, so is your indicated £40 for the non-members only? " I think it's said in the thread that the stated entry fee is for men who aren't members, to give them a chance to go, similar to the bbw nights. And as op hasn't stated an age limit I'm sure we can all go ... It's up to her who she likes on the night | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending? I note on your profile that you have a personal age bracket of 29-43. Is that the age range that you are trying to attract or can younger guys and us "over-43's" come as well? Guys who are existing members only need to pay £33 anyway, so is your indicated £40 for the non-members only? " This isn't a night just for what I'm personally looking for, any male of any age, race etc can attend. The same with any women. The price would be for non members, members would pay the usual fee. | |||
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"I don't know why there's so many people slating this idea I think it's a great idea and many others do to... I think you need to give the woman a break I garuntee if you ask a lot of the single women they would want more single men to play with... she's just trying to broaden the swinging scene and make maybe a night or two a month a little different where's the harm in that... il back you the whole way and I don't know how you've held your tongue for so long with people slating you for putting an idea out there for an area of interest.. people today are so rude get of your high horses.... Thank you for your audience ladies and gentlemen Much love Ashley " Well said! | |||
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"I don't know why there's so many people slating this idea I think it's a great idea and many others do to... I think you need to give the woman a break I garuntee if you ask a lot of the single women they would want more single men to play with... she's just trying to broaden the swinging scene and make maybe a night or two a month a little different where's the harm in that... il back you the whole way and I don't know how you've held your tongue for so long with people slating you for putting an idea out there for an area of interest.. people today are so rude get of your high horses.... Thank you for your audience ladies and gentlemen Much love Ashley Well said! " | |||
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"If I were to organise a singles night at chams would anyone be interested in attending? I note on your profile that you have a personal age bracket of 29-43. Is that the age range that you are trying to attract or can younger guys and us "over-43's" come as well? Guys who are existing members only need to pay £33 anyway, so is your indicated £40 for the non-members only? " Your just being picky now Why would she do a social and only invite men she wants to shag | |||
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"This isn't a night just for what I'm personally looking for, any male of any age, race etc can attend. The same with any women. The price would be for non members, members would pay the usual fee. " Thank you for clarifying that. | |||
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"Again, thanks for the support. People just seem to want something to bitch about, from my own observations couples seem to seek out single men in clubs, hence why we need more. Couples also claim to want single females but often us ladies end up playing with each other lol. " What about the coloured wristbands idea someone mentioned? I thought that was a good idea and make it easier to identify singles and couples in the club. | |||
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"Why not just lower the price for single men if you want more in? I for one wouldn't dream of paying 40/50 for entrance to a club. Understand the reasons why but think it puts most genuine guys off. It puts genuine guys off? So all the guys I've seen in clubs must have been fakes then! Perhaps they were women in disguise? £50 is too much. Full stop" Yet you still go, as your constant club posts attest. | |||
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"Again, thanks for the support. People just seem to want something to bitch about, from my own observations couples seem to seek out single men in clubs, hence why we need more. Couples also claim to want single females but often us ladies end up playing with each other lol. What about the coloured wristbands idea someone mentioned? I thought that was a good idea and make it easier to identify singles and couples in the club. " That would be a great idea, I have pissed off many women talking to their fellas at clubs, If they are stood alone how am I suppose to know they are with somebody | |||
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