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*Important information from AbFabParties*
We constantly monitor your feedback and take on board any that we receive and become aware of.
Further to recent comments we have noticed this past week on various online contact sites and community pages, this newsletter is to remind ALL our party guests that
MOBILE PHONES, PDA'S, CAMERAS, VIDEOS OR RECORDING DEVICES OF ANY KIND ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BE USED IN OUR VENUE!
We make this as clear as possible - on our website, with clear signage around the venue and during all our welcome tours.
AS A RESULT OF THE FEEDBACK, WE WILL BE PATROLLING OUR PARTY AREAS AT ALL EVENTS AND WE WILL ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE VENUE IF WE SEE THAT YOU ARE USING ANY SUCH DEVICES.
(Phone messages can be checked and calls made
at reception only).
DRESS CODE FOR GUYS ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT PARTIES
(SINGLE GUYS AND THOSE WHO ARE PART OF A COUPLE)
It has also been brought to our attention that the dress code for guys on our Friday and Saturday night events has slipped somewhat.
We agree that in order to pick up our game and keep our venue to the standard our guests have grown to love, we must insist that guys adhere to our specific dress code for these events.
We do not want to have to turn you away of you are not dressed correctly, so please avoid disappointment and ensure that you are suitably attired.
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On Friday and Saturday nights, single guys (and guys who are part of a couple) MUST follow our dress code which is smart/casual.
(We prefer no jeans or trainers, though SMART, DARK, NON-TORN jeans are acceptable)...and definitely no leisure wear, grubby workwear, shorts or flip flops!
We recommend a smart shirt and dark trousers on both nights. We request that our male guests are well-groomed, clean and to have made an effort for our party. Entry is at the party hosts' discretion.
Thank you,
The AbFabParties Team
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because apparently its only men who ever turn up scruffy and and only men who turn up ungroomed.
Surely this announcement should be aimed at everyone who attends not just the guys ?
Last time we attended there were just as many "scruffy" looking women as men easily.
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Thank you for your comment.
We have responded in this instance to specific comments and feedback about guys in particular. Also, we do find on party nights at reception when guests arrive that is is usually guys who do not arrive wearing the specified dress code, or in keeping with the type of event we hold.
This is just a reminder in case guys attending are not aware of the club dress code and expectation.
The AbFabParties Team |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Good to see a response .
Perhaps you need to have a word with your regulars however , who have rushed in on your review page to attack the bad review . Does not make the club at all appealing .
But , to weigh that up it's great you have taken the comments on board when many would get irate and deny things 
Not been yet but it's on my to do list |
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over a year ago
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Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who is responsible for the dresscode and standards slipping? As a club you appear to be blaming customers for your own failure to enforce rules?
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Exactly, if rules are already clearly stated on the website and at the club entrance about dresscode, phones/cameras and behavior and properly enforced by the club - then there is no need for announcements.
The club has only themselves to blame - and that would apply to any club. |
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We appreciate that there have been instances and occasions when rather than disappoint guests by turning them away on arrival for not sticking to the dress code, we have been flexible and asked them to make sure that they come along in correct attire on their next visit - but we see that this has disappointed some of our party guests - so we are acting on what we feel constructive feedback. We do not blame our guests at all. We are simply reminding guests of our guidelines and what is and isn't acceptable in terms of dress code etc.
As for our guests'reactions to what can be construed as negative feedback - we have no control over that. We acknowledge this is an open forum and a place to express openly about experiences at the club (good and bad). We are very lucky and greatly appreciate the loyalty of our guests.
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited"
The problem is, its just open fridges with your name written on a bottle, every other good club we have been too you give your bottle to someone at a bar area and they take care of it for you at AB fabs it just a series of fridges dotted everywhere.
People being people (d*unk people) just take whatever they want as the night goes on.
Anyway im not going to go further than that as AB fabs is one of those clubs with a pretty hardcore supporter base and I dont want to get into a mass flame war, my original point was singling out guys is a bit much and as others have said its your responsibility to sort these things out at the door, surely if they are in the club in tattered jeans and flip flops its because you guys let them in ? seems a bit silly pushing the blame out to the community.
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"lol what a set of rules, its not a visit to Buckingham palace  "
All clubs have rules they are often there to ensure the night is fun for everyone attending, if you think these are too harsh then I suggest you not look at attending a club as there are FAR harsher clubs out there.
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"lol what a set of rules, its not a visit to Buckingham palace
All clubs have rules they are often there to ensure the night is fun for everyone attending, if you think these are too harsh then I suggest you not look at attending a club as there are FAR harsher clubs out there.
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I know yes all have rules, no thought it sounded a bit offputtting you know, especially writing in capitals to. And yes I don't go to clubs in general as its to expensive as well  |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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I know yes all have rules, no thought it sounded a bit offputtting you know, especially writing in capitals to. And yes I don't go to clubs in general as its to expensive as well "
Then presumably, one would think that your input will be minimal
As for those who, in general, do go to clubs, expect a nicer atmosphere and try to be helpful to the organisers by voicing their concerns
Intelligent club owners turn customer complaints into assets |
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over a year ago
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I know yes all have rules, no thought it sounded a bit offputtting you know, especially writing in capitals to. And yes I don't go to clubs in general as its to expensive as well
Then presumably, one would think that your input will be minimal
As for those who, in general, do go to clubs, expect a nicer atmosphere and try to be helpful to the organisers by voicing their concerns
Intelligent club owners turn customer complaints into assets"
Well I have been to few clubs before  |
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited"
The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about. |
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about. "
JayDee's have a BYO policy. Your drinks are kept behind the bar on a numbered shelf, you are given the corresponding number on a wrist band, and your drinks are given back to you by the nice lady behind the bar.
This costs you an optional £1, which I believe goes straight to the bar staff. |
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The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about. "
This club is easily one of the most expensive around anyway, given it has the rare ability to make money during the day from its naturist club venture the money argument doesn't make a lot of sense here.
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about. "
I'm pretty sure that paying someone minimum wage to stand by a fridge and monitor drinks for 2 or 3 nights a week would be a huge drain on the profits |
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over a year ago
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The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about.
This club is easily one of the most expensive around anyway, given it has the rare ability to make money during the day from its naturist club venture the money argument doesn't make a lot of sense here.
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Agreed with how much money I still know this will incur a additional charge |
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over a year ago
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about.
I'm pretty sure that paying someone minimum wage to stand by a fridge and monitor drinks for 2 or 3 nights a week would be a huge drain on the profits "
Should read: would not be
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
The only defence I have for this is unless they supply bar staff to control the drinks like our place 4 fun do, then it will be a hard task. If they do this then the entry price will rocket up and then that'll be something else for people to complain about.
I'm pretty sure that paying someone minimum wage to stand by a fridge and monitor drinks for 2 or 3 nights a week would be a huge drain on the profits "
Trouble is it's not just about paying minimum wage there's auto enrolment, holiday pay, ni contribution.
I'm not defending the club I'm just saying that if they raise the price people will complain about that too |
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Trouble is it's not just about paying minimum wage there's auto enrolment, holiday pay, ni contribution.
I'm not defending the club I'm just saying that if they raise the price people will complain about that too"
They could always shift one of the multiple people who "work there" and hang out by the front door all night into the main area, put the fridges behind a bar and bingo job done.
If much smaller clubs who charge less can manage it there really is no valid excuse. They could easily cover the costs by charging for soft drinks which no one that attends a BYOB club would mind.
The lack of real bar area and huge amount of space the club takes up also causes issues as there is no focal point or place for people to mingle, which is why whenever im asked about the club I would recommend it if you were going in a group as Saturdays at least are very cliquey affairs where people tend to be in static groups, again borne of having no common "bar" area for people to congregate at and place for the hosts to actually host.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyway, the original post refers to the fact that the club will be taking a tougher stance on existing rules which for whatever reason seem to have slipped by the wayside over a period of time.
They are giving everyone a heads up that from now on they will be strictly enforcing these rules and playing devils advocate here I guess they are saying (in basic no frills terms) you have been told so don't moan when you break the rules and are told to leave as a result.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I never get dress code, it would not put me off any club, if a load of work men came in yay,,, as to what they have on, it ends up on the floor  ,, just my feedback |
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over a year ago
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited"
Wow a free fridge raid included in admission price...wheres the booking form |
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over a year ago
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"We appreciate that there have been instances and occasions when rather than disappoint guests by turning them away on arrival for not sticking to the dress code, we have been flexible and asked them to make sure that they come along in correct attire on their next visit - but we see that this has disappointed some of our party guests - so we are acting on what we feel constructive feedback. We do not blame our guests at all. We are simply reminding guests of our guidelines and what is and isn't acceptable in terms of dress code etc.
As for our guests'reactions to what can be construed as negative feedback - we have no control over that. We acknowledge this is an open forum and a place to express openly about experiences at the club (good and bad). We are very lucky and greatly appreciate the loyalty of our guests.
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Keeping the loyalty of your guests is one thing but on the other hand asking men to wear shirts and slacks  will surely cut out the younger set which in reality is your future....maybe moving with the times would be better,just take a look around any cities nightlife and there are not many men who are not wearing a pair of 70 quid jeans.
Ladies get to wear whatever they want i presume ...flip flops and snorkel suit? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Last things I will say about the drink thing is this is the only place that have free soft drinks. Also I've been to many places with a bar and you still get cliques.
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over a year ago
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales? "
It's a good club but a long way from you!
Have a word with missmo66 she's coming from wales this week.
http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/328460
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales? "
Certainly worth a punt, but please go in with an open mind. |
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales? "
There are a couple on here who write and maintain a top clubs list (they use a panel of reviewers and produce the book / updates yearly).
If you want a good guide as to where best to go and what clubs to hit its worth hitting their profile up and getting a hold of their book, its a great read and gives you details on every club.
The profile is "clubpartypeeps".
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over a year ago
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited"
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched |
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales?
There are a couple on here who write and maintain a top clubs list (they use a panel of reviewers and produce the book / updates yearly).
If you want a good guide as to where best to go and what clubs to hit its worth hitting their profile up and getting a hold of their book, its a great read and gives you details on every club.
The profile is "clubpartypeeps".
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over a year ago
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales?
It's a good club but a long way from you!
Have a word with missmo66 she's coming from wales this week.
http://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/328460
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I don't mind travelling |
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over a year ago
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"Where is abfabs ?? It's a club ive not tried
Near Heathrow
Is it worth a trip from Wales?
Certainly worth a punt, but please go in with an open mind. "
I always keep one of them |
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over a year ago
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched "
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
Maybe because they have heard things about this club that has put them off. They are now asking for the issue to be discussed. This is an ideal opportunity for the owners to answer the question or can you only ask questions if you have been to the club? I'd want to know if my drinks were safe!
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Every club has its downsides I can list at least one for every venue I've been too, I've read comments and review and I've still attends regardless of what people say because life is about making you own decisions. If you choose not to visit a place because you heard someone had their drink taken then that's your choice nobody is forcing you. After all it's all about feeling comfortable. |
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums"
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken  |
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I must admit we have never had our drinks taken and we have been members of the club for many years. But we know it is a problem and something we are sure the club will try to address.
In terms of the dress code I do think it is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The club get stick for doing nothing and then get even more for doing something. I guess you can't win.
In the long run if you don't like the club find one you do and enjoy every second. On the other hand if you find Ab Fabs a fantastic venue well good for you too. We can't all like the same can we?!
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"I must admit we have never had our drinks taken and we have been members of the club for many years. But we know it is a problem and something we are sure the club will try to address.
In terms of the dress code I do think it is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The club get stick for doing nothing and then get even more for doing something. I guess you can't win.
In the long run if you don't like the club find one you do and enjoy every second. On the other hand if you find Ab Fabs a fantastic venue well good for you too. We can't all like the same can we?!
T xx "
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken "
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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If everyone, who did not like one or two aspects of a club just moved on, there will be only a few left attending and the club will close down
Let the organisers know what (sensible suggestions) they can do better. Some things they will be able to change and others will be beyond their control to change or will cost so much to change that it won't be a commercially viable option
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken "
and to honest... i don't think posts like this help the club and any image the club that people may have in any way shape or form....
I am not sure why people get so defensive about clubs they go to.... let the clubs do the speaking rather than regulars circling the wagons whenever anything remotely negative is said.......
and then you wonder why people are so jumpy about leaving anything remotely critical about a club....
the corkage fee idea is not the worst one in the world... for example it is one that my local club uses.... and no one has complained about paying the extra quid and it does work...... |
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Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
and to honest... i don't think posts like this help the club and any image the club that people may have in any way shape or form....
I am not sure why people get so defensive about clubs they go to.... let the clubs do the speaking rather than regulars circling the wagons whenever anything remotely negative is said.......
and then you wonder why people are so jumpy about leaving anything remotely critical about a club....
the corkage fee idea is not the worst one in the world... for example it is one that my local club uses.... and no one has complained about paying the extra quid and it does work......"
Firstly as your replying to our post were not regulars only ever been the once and have no idea who the owners are so no 'wagon circling' here just felt like the person asking abfabs to address the drink situation (which had nothing to do with the post anyway) had never been to the club so hasn't witnessed it first hand and is going by hearsay and just seemed to want a reaction as I've noticed quite a few of there replies seem to go that way
And by all means criticise a club if you have attended and have a reason to do so.... |
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over a year ago
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"In terms of the dress code I do think it is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The club get stick for doing nothing and then get even more for doing something. I guess you can't win."
The clubs at fault for not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
If they have did that, there would be no issues to take "stick" for. |
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"In terms of the dress code I do think it is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The club get stick for doing nothing and then get even more for doing something. I guess you can't win.
The clubs at fault for not enforcing their own rules in the first place.
If they have did that, there would be no issues to take "stick" for."
fair enough but they are addressing it now so good for them. As always you can't keep everyone happy and we appreciate them trying to improve our club |
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I am very happy that the dress code will be more strictly enforced - going out to Abfabs is a special occasion and should be treated as such. Getting smartened up and trying to look your best helps the atmosphere. Also very happy about the phone patrols - very off-putting if you are constantly looking over your (or someone else's) shoulder to see if you're being snapped on a phone. |
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over a year ago
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"I never get dress code, it would not put me off any club, if a load of work men came in yay,,, as to what they have on, it ends up on the floor ,, just my feedback "
couldn't have put it better ! |
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"I never get dress code, it would not put me off any club, if a load of work men came in yay,,, as to what they have on, it ends up on the floor ,, just my feedback
couldn't have put it better ! "
Well you don't want your Sunday bests on a floor of spunk, and Lord knows what else haha,,, , I'm glad somebody agrees, ive actually not gone to a club for that reason alone , no jeans indeed, although at least this club allows jeans |
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over a year ago
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"whilst we're all having a good old grumble, is there anyway the management could get one of those walking floor jobs (like airports) to the stable and back?  "
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Firstly as your replying to our post were not regulars only ever been the once and have no idea who the owners are so no 'wagon circling' here just felt like the person asking abfabs to address the drink situation (which had nothing to do with the post anyway) had never been to the club so hasn't witnessed it first hand and is going by hearsay and just seemed to want a reaction as I've noticed quite a few of there replies seem to go that way
And by all means criticise a club if you have attended and have a reason to do so.... "
A lot of people within the community talk and share experiences of the clubs they have been too, I have seen some pretty disgusting behavior at AB fabs (also at other clubs).
The thieving of drinks thing isn't some made up thing, its a real and true critique of the club and a perfectly valid one if you wish to choose not to spend the large sum of cash it costs for a first time.
I don't believe you need to be a regular attendee to voice concerns over going to said venue this is after all a discussion forum.
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Also and sorry for two posts in a row if you don't specify a "dress code" then quite frankly people will take the piss and honestly I think its a truism of the community and club goers that people rocking up in sweat pants and flip flops does not a "sexy club night" make for the majority.
Its not like most clubs ask for anything out of the ordinary just smart casual.
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"Also and sorry for two posts in a row if you don't specify a "dress code" then quite frankly people will take the piss and honestly I think its a truism of the community and club goers that people rocking up in sweat pants and flip flops does not a "sexy club night" make for the majority.
Its not like most clubs ask for anything out of the ordinary just smart casual.
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Smart casual is fine but some state only trousers, this I find a bit much,, also sweat pants on a lady can be very sexy,, so can jeans when they fit nicely around a ladies bottom, just because the men I meet don't wear trousers day to day doesn't make them any less respectable than somebody who does |
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"There were clothes hooks in the room I was in
I really wouldn't want to get anywhere near a plasterer or decorator in his work-clothes; but hey, each to their own fetish
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken "
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
Bang out of order for calling a forum user a busybody for just raising an issue."
When we've looked at visiting clubs it's been as important to us to hear reasons why people wouldn't go to a specific club as reasons why they would - it's called getting a balanced view. Those people don't necessarily have to have ever been. In the club scene people talk, share experiences and also things they've heard from others that have been.
It's a far more reliable source of info than reviews and no owner or die hard regular will ever be impartial.
I'm also surprised that nobody has questioned the owners announcement re mobile phone use? Is it the case that phones are allowed on site, rather than a requirement to be kept in lockers or cars in the car park? By the sound of things not - and that is one thing that is totally unacceptable, particularly since I'm guessing issues have been raised with pictures/videos being taken on club nights.
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
Bang out of order for calling a forum user a busybody for just raising an issue.
When we've looked at visiting clubs it's been as important to us to hear reasons why people wouldn't go to a specific club as reasons why they would - it's called getting a balanced view. Those people don't necessarily have to have ever been. In the club scene people talk, share experiences and also things they've heard from others that have been.
It's a far more reliable source of info than reviews and no owner or die hard regular will ever be impartial.
I'm also surprised that nobody has questioned the owners announcement re mobile phone use? Is it the case that phones are allowed on site, rather than a requirement to be kept in lockers or cars in the car park? By the sound of things not - and that is one thing that is totally unacceptable, particularly since I'm guessing issues have been raised with pictures/videos being taken on club nights.
A"
The place is SO big you cant possibly patrol it all.
There are lots of people that have pics from ab fabs on their profile.
Although there are lockers no one wants to keep a £200-£600+ phone in one of them, just like at any other club - you keep it with you!
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Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
and to honest... i don't think posts like this help the club and any image the club that people may have in any way shape or form....
I am not sure why people get so defensive about clubs they go to.... let the clubs do the speaking rather than regulars circling the wagons whenever anything remotely negative is said.......
and then you wonder why people are so jumpy about leaving anything remotely critical about a club....
the corkage fee idea is not the worst one in the world... for example it is one that my local club uses.... and no one has complained about paying the extra quid and it does work......
Firstly as your replying to our post were not regulars only ever been the once and have no idea who the owners are so no 'wagon circling' here just felt like the person asking abfabs to address the drink situation (which had nothing to do with the post anyway) had never been to the club so hasn't witnessed it first hand and is going by hearsay and just seemed to want a reaction as I've noticed quite a few of there replies seem to go that way
And by all means criticise a club if you have attended and have a reason to do so.... "
We have a lot of good friends who frequent a variety of clubs and many of them have had their drinks stolen at Abfabs. The friends I tend to keep are trustworthy people and if they say it's a problem, I believe them. It's enough to put us off attending. I have been told about the incredible facilities and play spaces but this problem makes me not want to put my hand in my pocket and hand over our hard earned money when there are so many other fantastic clubs where I know we won't have this issue.
We have been to OP4F and JayDees where your drinks were kept behind a bar and when you wanted a drink, you showed a number or gave a name and I thought it was a fantastic way for the clubs to look after their guests. We will be attending these clubs again because of this and tell our friends about this feature. It allowed us to socialise freely without having to keep an eye on our drinks meaning we could relax.
If this topic was relating to a restaurant where friends of yours had picked up food poisoning, would you ignore what they said and go anyway to see if you ended up ill also?
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
Bang out of order for calling a forum user a busybody for just raising an issue.
When we've looked at visiting clubs it's been as important to us to hear reasons why people wouldn't go to a specific club as reasons why they would - it's called getting a balanced view. Those people don't necessarily have to have ever been. In the club scene people talk, share experiences and also things they've heard from others that have been.
It's a far more reliable source of info than reviews and no owner or die hard regular will ever be impartial.
I'm also surprised that nobody has questioned the owners announcement re mobile phone use? Is it the case that phones are allowed on site, rather than a requirement to be kept in lockers or cars in the car park? By the sound of things not - and that is one thing that is totally unacceptable, particularly since I'm guessing issues have been raised with pictures/videos being taken on club nights.
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The place is SO big you cant possibly patrol it all.
There are lots of people that have pics from ab fabs on their profile.
Although there are lockers no one wants to keep a £200-£600+ phone in one of them, just like at any other club - you keep it with you!
You have to rely on guests to behave appropriately."
Not all clubs. At our regular haunt they check bags on entrance and they are stored for you to access should you wish to take one in. I guess you know the place I'm referring to.
Seems some don't take the same approach. I understand the need to maybe take one to a club - especially if there are children at home and you have sitters. But I don't see the need to carry one around with you.
Maybe that's just me.
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"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
Bang out of order for calling a forum user a busybody for just raising an issue.
When we've looked at visiting clubs it's been as important to us to hear reasons why people wouldn't go to a specific club as reasons why they would - it's called getting a balanced view. Those people don't necessarily have to have ever been. In the club scene people talk, share experiences and also things they've heard from others that have been.
It's a far more reliable source of info than reviews and no owner or die hard regular will ever be impartial.
I'm also surprised that nobody has questioned the owners announcement re mobile phone use? Is it the case that phones are allowed on site, rather than a requirement to be kept in lockers or cars in the car park? By the sound of things not - and that is one thing that is totally unacceptable, particularly since I'm guessing issues have been raised with pictures/videos being taken on club nights.
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The place is SO big you cant possibly patrol it all.
There are lots of people that have pics from ab fabs on their profile.
Although there are lockers no one wants to keep a £200-£600+ phone in one of them, just like at any other club - you keep it with you!
You have to rely on guests to behave appropriately.
Not all clubs. At our regular haunt they check bags on entrance and they are stored for you to access should you wish to take one in. I guess you know the place I'm referring to.
Seems some don't take the same approach. I understand the need to maybe take one to a club - especially if there are children at home and you have sitters. But I don't see the need to carry one around with you.
Maybe that's just me.
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Also will you be adressing the issue of people taking other people's drinks? We have heard comments about that on and off for at least 18 months and it's why you are the only club local to us tbat we've never visited
Then if you have never visited why you asking for them to address an issue you've not experienced but simply 'heard' about lol
We went for the first time a few weeks back and it was great AND funnily enough none of our drinks were touched
We are regular club goers. We have visited all local clubs other than Abfabs - why shouldn't we ask a question? Particularly as the same criticisms have been voiced repeatedly on the forums
Why.... Well because it's not really any business of yours if youve never witnessed first hand or had your drinks taken which would be difficult as you've never been so basically your just a busy body who gets there kicks from digging people out in forums..... Little suggestion maybe leave it to the people who have actually been to abfabs and had there drinks taken
Bang out of order for calling a forum user a busybody for just raising an issue.
When we've looked at visiting clubs it's been as important to us to hear reasons why people wouldn't go to a specific club as reasons why they would - it's called getting a balanced view. Those people don't necessarily have to have ever been. In the club scene people talk, share experiences and also things they've heard from others that have been.
It's a far more reliable source of info than reviews and no owner or die hard regular will ever be impartial.
I'm also surprised that nobody has questioned the owners announcement re mobile phone use? Is it the case that phones are allowed on site, rather than a requirement to be kept in lockers or cars in the car park? By the sound of things not - and that is one thing that is totally unacceptable, particularly since I'm guessing issues have been raised with pictures/videos being taken on club nights.
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The place is SO big you cant possibly patrol it all.
There are lots of people that have pics from ab fabs on their profile.
Although there are lockers no one wants to keep a £200-£600+ phone in one of them, just like at any other club - you keep it with you!
You have to rely on guests to behave appropriately.
Not all clubs. At our regular haunt they check bags on entrance and they are stored for you to access should you wish to take one in. I guess you know the place I'm referring to.
Seems some don't take the same approach. I understand the need to maybe take one to a club - especially if there are children at home and you have sitters. But I don't see the need to carry one around with you.
Maybe that's just me.
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Yes I know the one, but you can still take it in with you.. regardless of a bag search - it's not quite airport security is it."
Nope.
But the bit I don't get is that if clubs set a rule - such as dress code or mobile phone policy - why don't they enforce it?
I just checked - it's clear on Ab Fabs website (and I'm sure at the venue too!) the rule on phones.
"No cameras or recording devices of any kind are allowed in any area of the party. Please leave these in your car (NOT on display) along with any other valuables or ask for a locker at reception. Do not use a mobile phone inside any of the buildings. Please leave them in your car or in your coat or bag at reception. Confidentiality and privacy must be respected at all times."
So if they're not enforcing their own rules what's the point in having them?
The same rule will be on pretty much every club website.
Persistent rule breaches will only occur in a venue if the staff/owners allow it to happen.
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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We have a lot of good friends who frequent a variety of clubs and many of them have had their drinks stolen at Abfabs. The friends I tend to keep are trustworthy people and if they say it's a problem, I believe them. It's enough to put us off attending. I have been told about the incredible facilities and play spaces but this problem makes me not want to put my hand in my pocket and hand over our hard earned money when there are so many other fantastic clubs where I know we won't have this issue.
We have been to OP4F and JayDees where your drinks were kept behind a bar and when you wanted a drink, you showed a number or gave a name and I thought it was a fantastic way for the clubs to look after their guests. We will be attending these clubs again because of this and tell our friends about this feature. It allowed us to socialise freely without having to keep an eye on our drinks meaning we could relax.
If this topic was relating to a restaurant where friends of yours had picked up food poisoning, would you ignore what they said and go anyway to see if you ended up ill also?
crystal"
This was discussed on another thread some months back. I believe the reason given at the time why AbFabs do not have a manned area (similar to other clubs) was down to AbFabs hence having to employ an extra member of staff for the night.
Boo hoo.. cause paying an extra person would absolutely break the bank,. instead guests experience of the night is put on the chopping block. |
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We have a lot of good friends who frequent a variety of clubs and many of them have had their drinks stolen at Abfabs. The friends I tend to keep are trustworthy people and if they say it's a problem, I believe them. It's enough to put us off attending. I have been told about the incredible facilities and play spaces but this problem makes me not want to put my hand in my pocket and hand over our hard earned money when there are so many other fantastic clubs where I know we won't have this issue.
We have been to OP4F and JayDees where your drinks were kept behind a bar and when you wanted a drink, you showed a number or gave a name and I thought it was a fantastic way for the clubs to look after their guests. We will be attending these clubs again because of this and tell our friends about this feature. It allowed us to socialise freely without having to keep an eye on our drinks meaning we could relax.
If this topic was relating to a restaurant where friends of yours had picked up food poisoning, would you ignore what they said and go anyway to see if you ended up ill also?
crystal
This was discussed on another thread some months back. I believe the reason given at the time why AbFabs do not have a manned area (similar to other clubs) was down to AbFabs hence having to employ an extra member of staff for the night.
Boo hoo.. cause paying an extra person would absolutely break the bank,. instead guests experience of the night is put on the chopping block."
With their prices I'm surprised they would struggle to employ an extra member of staff. They could charge a corkage fee where you pay a few quid to leave your drinks.
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By *r OreoMan
over a year ago
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For me (having been going for the past 4 yrs) dress code ive not had an issue with and not really seen many scruffy people to be fair.
If someone is scruffy, the chance of playing is slimmer hence its almost a certainty people will want to look their best to up their chances - esp single guys.
Drinks - yep - have had drinks stolen from a fridge. On one occasion it was a can of beer, on another was a LOT of vodka taken from our bottle.
The main issue i have (one which was raised on the abfabs facebook page) is single guys filming and taking pics in abfabs. One such incident involved a person filming through the glass whilst people were playing. The problem here is its 1-way glass so the people in the other side cannot see it happening, but may well end up staring on the net somewhere.
Still love the club, but we will stick to going to kestrels from now on to avoid the above camera issues. |
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"For me (having been going for the past 4 yrs) dress code ive not had an issue with and not really seen many scruffy people to be fair.
If someone is scruffy, the chance of playing is slimmer hence its almost a certainty people will want to look their best to up their chances - esp single guys.
Drinks - yep - have had drinks stolen from a fridge. On one occasion it was a can of beer, on another was a LOT of vodka taken from our bottle.
The main issue i have (one which was raised on the abfabs facebook page) is single guys filming and taking pics in abfabs. One such incident involved a person filming through the glass whilst people were playing. The problem here is its 1-way glass so the people in the other side cannot see it happening, but may well end up staring on the net somewhere.
Still love the club, but we will stick to going to kestrels from now on to avoid the above camera issues."
I've seen a couple using their camera phone in kestrals before, my partner reported it and the couple were spoken to.
I'm going to assume that you informed the staff on this occasion? If people turn a blind eye then this will keep happening. |
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By *r OreoMan
over a year ago
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Sorry - i prob didnt write that well - i was merely quoting what another couple had seen last friday.
They also saw 2 guys taking selfies in the main area, and the security guy walking past not saying anything. |
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"Sorry - i prob didnt write that well - i was merely quoting what another couple had seen last friday.
They also saw 2 guys taking selfies in the main area, and the security guy walking past not saying anything."
"Hmmm if people were as kind to be filming through glass then i wouldnt put it past a similar kind person to be adding things to unnattended drinks either "
I read that too, I'm not saying it didn't happen because I've noticed some very unsavoury people there myself, but I once took my iPod out to check the time and got told off. I now wear a watch.
Secondly I wouldn't say that these people are stealing others drinks but it still says something about the security.
When I first started swinging Abfab was my first club it never used to be like this, over the years I've noticed that some guys treat the place like "I've paid £70 to get in so I'm entitled to a fuck" that's why I don't like Fridays, even sometimes a day at kestrels bugs me with some guys attitudes.
I think a lot of the problems with Abfab and other clubs is a mentality of its a fuck club and it's a small minority of chancres that ruin it. |
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By *g99Couple
over a year ago
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I know you want people to look smart, but shirt and trousers seems very formal, graham could probably look smarter in jeans and a top than half the guys in shirts and trouser,
Like someone said, you need to also look after the future clientele.
You don't have to wear trousers and a shirt to look smart nowadays, if you go out to a nice vanilla bar or club, it will be a rare sight to see someone in a pair of trousers and shirt.
I agree if someone turns up, and they look scruffy/dirty/riffy (delete as appropriate) then yes turn them away.
But I know for sure that if we where told before we went to a club you had to wear shirt and trousers we wouldn't go |
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We've been going to Abfabs and Kestrels for years now and only once have had some wine stolen (about half a bottle and I wasn't impressed). However that was one time out of many and have been back since and it's been ok. Have tried other clubs yet still this one is our fave. The facilities are amazing. Have never noticed scruffy looking clientele either, we can't attend often so maybe we've experienced the good night's. One thing I would do to improve the whole experience is have a better central mingling area and better music.
Alarmed to hear about the phones and will be aware of this next visit. I must admit I usually have my phone in my bag which I check at various intervals in case there is any emergency with my kids - I'd never dream of recording anyone.
Always will be our club of choice and would recommend to anyone |
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"I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership."
Why would women be challenged for walking around unaccompanied on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter? Saturday nights are couples and single women. The more single women the better we say |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership.
Why would women be challenged for walking around unaccompanied on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter? Saturday nights are couples and single women. The more single women the better we say"
Likewise, why would a man be challenged, even accused of being a single guy having snuck in, without getting the facts as to who he is and how he arrived.. before being thrown out?
Also.. "the more single women the better".. better for who?? |
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Likewise, why would a man be challenged, even accused of being a single guy having snuck in, without getting the facts as to who he is and how he arrived.. before being thrown out?
Also.. "the more single women the better".. better for who??"
I agree it happened to me once, I'd nipped to the dungeon loo while my partner was chatting on the walk back I. got stopped and quote rudely asked where she was, then was told I cannot be without her at any time.
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"I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership.
Why would women be challenged for walking around unaccompanied on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter? Saturday nights are couples and single women. The more single women the better we say
Likewise, why would a man be challenged, even accused of being a single guy having snuck in, without getting the facts as to who he is and how he arrived.. before being thrown out?
Also.. "the more single women the better".. better for who??"
Well said Ahabs - we're not remotely interested in single women. I don't think it's right or fair that men are constantly viewed in such a sinister, negative way. |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership.
Why would women be challenged for walking around unaccompanied on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter? Saturday nights are couples and single women. The more single women the better we say
Likewise, why would a man be challenged, even accused of being a single guy having snuck in, without getting the facts as to who he is and how he arrived.. before being thrown out?
Also.. "the more single women the better".. better for who??
Well said Ahabs - we're not remotely interested in single women. I don't think it's right or fair that men are constantly viewed in such a sinister, negative way."
The whole "single females good, single males bad" is a tad to simple.. it almost (in my opinion) hints insecurity (on the male halves part).
Think about it, if the female half is straight, and the couple are actively seeking single females on couples night, surely makes no difference on a night where single males are in attendance? The male can show he can hold his own,.. and the options for the female half are increased.. more fun for all, hence the better |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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The whole "single females good, single males bad" is a tad to simple.. it almost (in my opinion) hints insecurity (on the male halves part).
Think about it, if the female half is straight, and the couple are actively seeking single females on couples night, surely makes no difference on a night where single males are in attendance? The male can show he can hold his own,.. and the options for the female half are increased.. more fun for all, hence the better "
I want only:
1) single men
2) single women
3) couples
the above is not in any order of preference or priority
But seriously, I want to book a ticket for New Year's eve at AbFabs. But not much point in me turning up on the night when there won't be any single men allowed. For couples, I am mostly just a 'spare wheel'  They prefer to play with other couples and I am not gonna get married just to have some fun on New Years Eve It is not just for Christmas, but for life |
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We were regulars and have heard of drinks being stolen once or twice, but it's not that much of a problem. The big problem is mobile phones, I've seen guys recording in the changing rooms while pretending to be checking messages, and yes I have challenged them and reported them, even to the extent of returning with a member of staff, but very disapointed that the offenders were just spoken to and not banned for life or even asked to leave. We are I admit paranoid about it, but I dont want my friends or family see us starring in an internet video! |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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The whole "single females good, single males bad" is a tad to simple.. it almost (in my opinion) hints insecurity (on the male halves part).
Think about it, if the female half is straight, and the couple are actively seeking single females on couples night, surely makes no difference on a night where single males are in attendance? The male can show he can hold his own,.. and the options for the female half are increased.. more fun for all, hence the better
I want only:
1) single men
2) single women
3) couples
the above is not in any order of preference or priority
But seriously, I want to book a ticket for New Year's eve at AbFabs. But not much point in me turning up on the night when there won't be any single men allowed. For couples, I am mostly just a 'spare wheel' They prefer to play with other couples and I am not gonna get married just to have some fun on New Years Eve It is not just for Christmas, but for life "
Careful.. that kinda talk will offend some couples (ie, the ones with a sense of entitlement to single females.. the same ones that think single guys have no place on the scene) lol. |
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As a naturist this has made me chuckle. It's a naturist spa yet everyone is up in arms about clothing. The whole idea is surely for the clothing to come off at some point anyway! This is why I'd only ever visit on the proper naturist nights, the benefit of which is that everyone is then equal from the off and nobody will need to be feeding back about scruffy attired etc.
I do agree though that stealing other people's drinks is poor form. Especially as you might end up screwing someone later on without knowing they've already screwed you by nicking your drink!  |
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We can live with someone stealing the drinks, but there is no way we will put our foot inside the club again, if we notice someone is using the phone inside the club ( thank god we didn't notice any such thing during the 2 times we visited the club).
Some of us, keep and will always want to keep this lifestyle private - its way too dangerous if someone takes a pic or video of you in action ( a time when you give a damn about whats going around you ) and uploads them in a seedy website. Its a game over to us.
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"As a naturist this has made me chuckle. It's a naturist spa yet everyone is up in arms about clothing. The whole idea is surely for the clothing to come off at some point anyway! This is why I'd only ever visit on the proper naturist nights, the benefit of which is that everyone is then equal from the off and nobody will need to be feeding back about scruffy attired etc.
I do agree though that stealing other people's drinks is poor form. Especially as you might end up screwing someone later on without knowing they've already screwed you by nicking your drink! "
Kestrels is a naturist spa. AbFabs is not, it's a swingers club. The fact that it's the Anne place is irrelevant. People generally don't walk around naked at AbFabs, certainly on Friday nights. |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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We have been to OP4F and JayDees where your drinks were kept behind a bar and when you wanted a drink, you showed a number or gave a name and I thought it was a fantastic way for the clubs to look after their guests. We will be attending these clubs again because of this and tell our friends about this feature. It allowed us to socialise freely without having to keep an eye on our drinks meaning we could relax.
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And it`s a great place to socialise for those like my self who don`t like going into the other good socialising place in clubs - the smoking area! Even if the conversation starts up about the drink/bottle of wine/real ale etc. it`s always an opening! |
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"As a naturist this has made me chuckle. It's a naturist spa yet everyone is up in arms about clothing. The whole idea is surely for the clothing to come off at some point anyway! This is why I'd only ever visit on the proper naturist nights, the benefit of which is that everyone is then equal from the off and nobody will need to be feeding back about scruffy attired etc.
I do agree though that stealing other people's drinks is poor form. Especially as you might end up screwing someone later on without knowing they've already screwed you by nicking your drink!
Kestrels is a naturist spa. AbFabs is not, it's a swingers club. The fact that it's the Anne place is irrelevant. People generally don't walk around naked at AbFabs, certainly on Friday nights. "
Not everyone walks around naked at Kestrels either. We're not all body confident you know - I wear a sarong or robe. Zed is happy to be naked but sometimes wraps a towel around him or wears a robe if it's chilly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Every club has its downsides I can list at least one for every venue I've been too, I've read comments and review and I've still attends regardless of what people say because life is about making you own decisions. If you choose not to visit a place because you heard someone had their drink taken then that's your choice nobody is forcing you. After all it's all about feeling comfortable. "
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Their Tuesdays and Wednesdays are naturist and would be my preference. If I have to wear a shirt and trousers on my evening out then I expect to be enjoying a juicy steak at a posh restaurant, not looking to get my rocks off. I guess everyone has their own preferences! |
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"I'm still surprised at the on-going issue of "Single guys in attendance on Saturday nights".
Specifically "single guy on premises" being ceremoniously turfed out. Surely, if anyone is on premises, there are questions to be asked:
The person's membership card (duh!)
The name they signed in under at the desk (see membership card)
Where their partner is (probably off playing with a couple?)
Why is it ok for women to walk around unaccompanied and unchallenged?
Most importantly,.. if proven to be a single guy that somehow signed in unaccompanied,.. surely the blame is at the desk?
Just a strange thing that seems to have been going on for years with no sight of accountability or ownership.
Why would women be challenged for walking around unaccompanied on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter? Saturday nights are couples and single women. The more single women the better we say
Likewise, why would a man be challenged, even accused of being a single guy having snuck in, without getting the facts as to who he is and how he arrived.. before being thrown out?
Also.. "the more single women the better".. better for who??
Well said Ahabs - we're not remotely interested in single women. I don't think it's right or fair that men are constantly viewed in such a sinister, negative way.
The whole "single females good, single males bad" is a tad to simple.. it almost (in my opinion) hints insecurity (on the male halves part).
Think about it, if the female half is straight, and the couple are actively seeking single females on couples night, surely makes no difference on a night where single males are in attendance? The male can show he can hold his own,.. and the options for the female half are increased.. more fun for all, hence the better "
I was replying in direct relation to a comment made about Saturday nights when it is couples and single ladies so couldn't understand why a single female would be challenged? We also attend on Fridays and have nothing against single guys, have played with enough Think you took my question out of context! |
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over a year ago
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There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious. |
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"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious."
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By *r OreoMan
over a year ago
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"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious."
Why would you expect others to drink YOUR wine?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious."
............ and the wagons circled.....
if you spent money on drink for your own consumption, why on earth would you expect others to just take....
does that mean you are one of the takers.....
I can tell you from visiting other clubs that the corkage principle does work...... and the idea of having to possibly employ 1 more person on a night, as against the numbers of people who come to the club who may have to pay a pound or two extra is worth the investment |
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By *entkevMan
over a year ago
Dover |
As I regular club visitor and member of another South East club I have decided to try out other ones.
Abfabs was on my 'to do' list, however having read this thread I'm not sure I'll bother. Obviously this will be no loss to the club or anyone who attends but from what I can make out.....
It's very expensive for a single guy, plus the fuel costs, if you pass the clothing inspection you may be lucky enough to get in, then you can look forward to having your drink stolen by clicky couples/groups who'll just ignore you.
Let me think, shall I attend?  |
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over a year ago
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"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious.
Why would you expect others to drink YOUR wine?
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. What I ACTUALLY said was I'd halfway expect someone to drink something I'd taken along, for the simple reason that all drinks are left in an open fridge, I've never stolen a drink from that club in my life, I tend to get a few drinks in first then use the free soft drink facility. I think it's a bit over the top to employ someone to stand by the fridge all night for god sake !!! Get over it, it's a hazard, that's all. |
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"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious.
Why would you expect others to drink YOUR wine?
. What I ACTUALLY said was I'd halfway expect someone to drink something I'd taken along, for the simple reason that all drinks are left in an open fridge, I've never stolen a drink from that club in my life, I tend to get a few drinks in first then use the free soft drink facility. I think it's a bit over the top to employ someone to stand by the fridge all night for god sake !!! Get over it, it's a hazard, that's all. "
So if we take a bottle and someone else drinks it - that's 'a hazard'? Seriously?
I'm sorry but it's not acceptable tio steal someone elses drink and I'm at a loss as to why someone would be so unperturbed by that that almost appear to be condoning it
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Abfabs is our club of choice and, on the whole, we can't fault it. However, we HAVE had our drink stolen on at least four separate occasions which is a bit more than just annoying.
Let's call it what it is - theft. Because anyone who takes a bottle from the fridge that is clearly labelled with someone else's name and pours themselves a drink from it is stealing.
The management normally takes note of comments and suggestions from their members but on this one, they're unusually quiet. Yes, we could keep our wine in our locker but who wants warm wine when there are fridges available?
This issue isn't enough to stop us from going though because in every other respect, the club is fantastic so we're considering getting a combination lock bottle-top to see if that does the trick in deterring thieving gits with zero scruples. Alternatively we could always leave a wine bottle filled with laxative-laced grape juice in the fridge and leave the thieves to it.
For those who are avoiding Abfabs purely based on the drinks issue, you're missing a very special experience, which is a shame. Go along and judge the club on the important parts  |
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I'm not a regular club but I personally think storing the alcohol behind the bar and charging a small corkage fee is a good idea.
Ab Fabs / Kestrals is the only club I've been too and I've never had a problem with my drink being taken ~ I also like the fact they provide free soft drinks.
I've had a lot of fun there and would recommend a visit.
I haven't seen any other clubs post this way so to me it's a positive step to put yourself out there and wait for the obvious onslaught of feedback ~ good & bad.
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By *enithWoman
over a year ago
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"Abfabs is our club of choice and, on the whole, we can't fault it. However, we HAVE had our drink stolen on at least four separate occasions which is a bit more than just annoying.
Let's call it what it is - theft. Because anyone who takes a bottle from the fridge that is clearly labelled with someone else's name and pours themselves a drink from it is stealing.
The management normally takes note of comments and suggestions from their members but on this one, they're unusually quiet. Yes, we could keep our wine in our locker but who wants warm wine when there are fridges available?
This issue isn't enough to stop us from going though because in every other respect, the club is fantastic so we're considering getting a combination lock bottle-top to see if that does the trick in deterring thieving gits with zero scruples. Alternatively we could always leave a wine bottle filled with laxative-laced grape juice in the fridge and leave the thieves to it.
For those who are avoiding Abfabs purely based on the drinks issue, you're missing a very special experience, which is a shame. Go along and judge the club on the important parts "
Well said ...... Again been attending Abfabs/Kestrels for at least 4 years and in that time had drink taken just once but the culprit was caught and dealt with by management.
Went to fetish night last Friday and the dress code of males and females was great, in fact it was fantastic night.
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
"There seems to me to be a great deal of maybe jealousy going on here, whereas people seem to think they own the place, they don't, i have no idea who actually does !! It's by far the best run club I've been to, spacious, clean and well equipped. I have no time at all for thieves, I have never taken alcohol to the club, but, if I had taken a bottle of wine or something there, I'd halfway expect it to be d*unk by others. Leave the place alone and stop criticising it, it's becoming tedious."
Spoken like a true person who would benefit from the notion "you can drink mine, so I should be able to drink yours,.. oh wait..I didn't bring mine this time.." |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex |
Last time I had my drink stolen anywhere, I was 10 years old and it was back in school. For me the solution was simple, I took a bottle filled with urine and left it similarly marked.
If anyone complains they've d*unk, then they have themselves to blame.
In my opinion however, AbFabs not acknowledging that visitors drinks get stolen is a failure on their part.
Not wanting to employ someone to man a makeshift bar of sorts (cause that would break the budget) is a failure on their part.
Finding a single guy on couples night is surely a "hole" in the entry process on the night and hence completely their responsibility.. also a fail on the managment's part.
Call a spade a spade and stop skirting around the issue - no other clubs have these problems. And they run just fine on reduced entry fees. |
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"Last time I had my drink stolen anywhere, I was 10 years old and it was back in school. For me the solution was simple, I took a bottle filled with urine and left it similarly marked.
If anyone complains they've d*unk, then they have themselves to blame.
In my opinion however, AbFabs not acknowledging that visitors drinks get stolen is a failure on their part.
Not wanting to employ someone to man a makeshift bar of sorts (cause that would break the budget) is a failure on their part.
Finding a single guy on couples night is surely a "hole" in the entry process on the night and hence completely their responsibility.. also a fail on the managment's part.
Call a spade a spade and stop skirting around the issue - no other clubs have these problems. And they run just fine on reduced entry fees."
Well then don't go, it's a choice we all have & it's quite simple.
The club doesn't state on it's website that it as a manned bar & I think common sense would prevail that in the day & age we live there are unscrupulous individuals that will take what is not theirs.
I take cheaper wine & usually 2 bottles based on this assumption.
That's the choice I make. |
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over a year ago
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"Interesting observation about b y o :
If the drinks are put behind the bar and then served up by staff that is a technical breach of licensing rules "
It's what most other clubs do |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Interesting observation about b y o :
If the drinks are put behind the bar and then served up by staff that is a technical breach of licensing rules "
What if they're put behind the bar, and when you want a drink the staff give you your bottle and you pour it yourself? |
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"Interesting observation about b y o :
If the drinks are put behind the bar and then served up by staff that is a technical breach of licensing rules "
I don't know much about licencing laws but surely if they were just handing you your own bottle and you poured it yourself (no money exchanging hands) then it wouldn't breach anything? |
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"Last time I had my drink stolen anywhere, I was 10 years old and it was back in school. For me the solution was simple, I took a bottle filled with urine and left it similarly marked.
If anyone complains they've d*unk, then they have themselves to blame.
In my opinion however, AbFabs not acknowledging that visitors drinks get stolen is a failure on their part.
Not wanting to employ someone to man a makeshift bar of sorts (cause that would break the budget) is a failure on their part.
Finding a single guy on couples night is surely a "hole" in the entry process on the night and hence completely their responsibility.. also a fail on the managment's part.
Call a spade a spade and stop skirting around the issue - no other clubs have these problems. And they run just fine on reduced entry fees.
Well then don't go, it's a choice we all have & it's quite simple.
The club doesn't state on it's website that it as a manned bar & I think common sense would prevail that in the day & age we live there are unscrupulous individuals that will take what is not theirs.
I take cheaper wine & usually 2 bottles based on this assumption.
That's the choice I make."
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"Last time I had my drink stolen anywhere, I was 10 years old and it was back in school. For me the solution was simple, I took a bottle filled with urine and left it similarly marked.
If anyone complains they've d*unk, then they have themselves to blame.
In my opinion however, AbFabs not acknowledging that visitors drinks get stolen is a failure on their part.
Not wanting to employ someone to man a makeshift bar of sorts (cause that would break the budget) is a failure on their part.
Finding a single guy on couples night is surely a "hole" in the entry process on the night and hence completely their responsibility.. also a fail on the managment's part.
Call a spade a spade and stop skirting around the issue - no other clubs have these problems. And they run just fine on reduced entry fees.
Well then don't go, it's a choice we all have & it's quite simple.
The club doesn't state on it's website that it as a manned bar & I think common sense would prevail that in the day & age we live there are unscrupulous individuals that will take what is not theirs.
I take cheaper wine & usually 2 bottles based on this assumption.
That's the choice I make."
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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We used to go regularly, but got put off by our drink being taken (half bottle of JD) half way through the night, and the several obviously single men on a Saturday night. We spoke to one that approached us, asked how he got in, and he told us that he pays an escort to go to the club with him on a Saturday night, then she does her own thing and usually leaves halfway through the night. He said he had a few mates that did the same. He said he does that because there's more couples and less singles, and usually spends the evening in the dark room, where people wouldn't know if he's single or not. Plus the dress code is not enforced and we think it should be.
We've not been back since. |
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"We used to go regularly, but got put off by our drink being taken (half bottle of JD) half way through the night, and the several obviously single men on a Saturday night. We spoke to one that approached us, asked how he got in, and he told us that he pays an escort to go to the club with him on a Saturday night, then she does her own thing and usually leaves halfway through the night. He said he had a few mates that did the same. He said he does that because there's more couples and less singles, and usually spends the evening in the dark room, where people wouldn't know if he's single or not. Plus the dress code is not enforced and we think it should be.
We've not been back since."
I've heard similar, this is how single guys get in. This problem is very easy to sort. They have rubber wrist bands for lockers how about say red ones for couples and yellow for single ladies. That way if a lady is walking around alone with a red band then the staff will know her partner is somewhere he shouldn't be, still won't help in the dark room though. |
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theres is a message outside the dark room now stating that on couples nights, guys should not go in there alone, not sure how well that is policed or adhered to though !! tricky when my FB is petrified of the dark !! |
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