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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club.
Do people like the social side as well as the swinging?
Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy.
Hot tubs and swinging pools a must?
Big rooms or small rooms?
Membership or pay per visit?
I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club
Thanks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club.
Do people like the social side as well as the swinging?
Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy.
Hot tubs and swinging pools a must?
Big rooms or small rooms?
Membership or pay per visit?
I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club
Thanks "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was thinking strongbow on tap!!! Would need a few people to help is use a barrel tho. Apparently we would have a slim chance of getting a licence tho. Il have the ice and fridges at the ready tho, so bring you own ?? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Iv heard about different laws. We have a few plans about sound proofing and causing minimum disturbance to people. The idea is the general public wouldn't be disturbed. Thanks tho |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A private sheltered area for smoking that is comfortable and heated in the winter.
'Private' would be the most useful, rather than located outside the main door where anyone is free to mosey by.
I left a club early last night due to such an issue. Groups of lads from the hotel next door hotel sniggering out loud as they walked past me.
After the third time I felt so uncomfortable I departed and won't return there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck"
There is such a thing as a Temporary Event Notice. Where anyone may hold up to 12 events per year in a certain place and sell alcohol, play music etc etc. you apply to the local council and send copies to the local police. The only grounds for objection are if it would cause a disturbance of the peace, i.e. violence or lots if noise. This is how village days etc are able to have beer tents and wedding organisers can sell alcohol at the wedding if that's what the couple wish  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club.
Do people like the social side as well as the swinging? Yes a good lounge area, pool table too
Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy. Not overly fussed for party nights, but they get busy so good for business
Hot tubs and swinging pools a must? YES YES YES
Big rooms or small rooms? a mix of both but more smaller rooms rather than a few big ones
Membership or pay per visit? Pay per visit
I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club
Thanks "
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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago
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Warm pool/hot tub.
Big shower area.
Big rooms and smaller ones.
Stable doors on aller rooms. Bottom bit is watch but don't come in unless invited. All closed then don't come in
Kitchen roll and anti bac spray
Dance area
Sofas for chilling out on
plenty of space and seats
Lots of beds for play |
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Air conditioning,
Large hot tub/jacuzzi,
Plenty rooms, with large beds,
well equipped dungeon,
open play areas,
pool table,
secure, outdoor, heated smoking area.
Large changing rooms,
Large shower areas,
cleaning products in rooms.
Regular GUM clinic at the club, for those who are too worried about visiting one.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If your thinking of building a swinging club try building one hastings area I will be a regular, there isnt anything this end.have to travel over 60miles to my nearest
best to do your homework go visit a few different clubs to get ideas.most of the thread says few pointers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wet facilities are a must for me...jacuzzi, pool, sauna, steam room
Variety of rooms....some with mirrors or viewing windows, some private....all with lockable doors.
Separate changing rooms for men, women & couples (could combine couples & women) with secure lockers & showers
Free condoms available in all rooms & public areas.
Public play areas (couples room, orgy room, open play areas)
Outdoor space is good with maybe an outdoor hot tub
Good social space to chat & get to know people.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club.
Do people like the social side as well as the swinging?
Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy.
Hot tubs and swinging pools a must?
Big rooms or small rooms?
Membership or pay per visit?
I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club
Thanks "
I suppose you could start with what you have liked and disliked about clubs you've been to and build from there around others experiences, I know some people who own and run clubs have been on tours of lots of other places to see what works and doesn't work and if you're not setting yourselves up in rivalry to them, I'm sure some people will be more than happy to pass on tips about how they have managed with the legalities and how some things are more trouble than they're worth...
For us, a hot tub or pool is a must, social areas as I'm reluctant to go to clubs that insist you undress on entering, good lockers and private play rooms along with public areas |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi everyone. I was wondering what people think the essentials are for a good club.
Do people like the social side as well as the swinging?
Do you like a good party aswell as getting jiggy.
Hot tubs and swinging pools a must?
Big rooms or small rooms?
Membership or pay per visit?
I'm sure you get my drift.... All advice would be great as we are hoping to build a club
Thanks "
Blimey..Me too!
Nowhere near Doncaster I hope? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was thinking strongbow on tap!!! Would need a few people to help is use a barrel tho. Apparently we would have a slim chance of getting a licence tho. Il have the ice and fridges at the ready tho, so bring you own ??"
An ice-cold Strongbow plunge-pool next to the hot-tub, to cool down in...  ...and a no-drinking in the plunge-pool policy... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Should it be expect"
Oohhh.... glad to see another spelling and grammar snob like me, ha ha ha.
As to the club, better changing rooms and shower facilities would attract us.
(Also a range of themed playrooms?)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My ideal club would have a large easy to access car park to start with
Have a social area where you don't have to get changed until your ready.
A nice dungeon and a frame swing
A dj and dance floor
Huge hot tub but salt water rather than chlorine
Lots of private rooms with sheets and ample towels to change on each visit to the room rather than rubber beds
Outside play area for those non smokers who also like fun outside
Limited specially selected single guys on most nights.
Special event parties/ dress up themes
Plenty of toilets and showers, private showers with enough room for 2 or more would be great too
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was thinking strongbow on tap!!! Would need a few people to help is use a barrel tho. Apparently we would have a slim chance of getting a licence tho. Il have the ice and fridges at the ready tho, so bring you own ??"
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration "
To be fair, why would you even post on here when you haven't even already done mountains of "quiet" homework on the subject?? 
Canvassing for opinion is fine but it costs nothing to do some simple research.
You have one chance to make a first impression, and yours is now of someone who's just had a quiet lunch hour, been doing a few sums in their head while eating a cheese and pickle dab which and thought "I can do that"....
There are previous threads on this, start there. No one knows your reading them, then when you come on canvassing for opinions you'll appear to have a clue what your talking about.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration "
You're going to need much better knowledge of licences: Alcohol, entertainment, sexual venue, sexual entertainment, and all the extras that come with those as just a start |
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"Ah now that's a good idea. Didn't realise that licence was available Thankyou!!! T sorry to hear you had the leave a club early I will take the smoking area into consideration
You're going to need much better knowledge of licences: Alcohol, entertainment, sexual venue, sexual entertainment, and all the extras that come with those as just a start"
you said it so much better than me.
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"Air conditioning,
Large hot tub/jacuzzi,
Plenty rooms, with large beds,
well equipped dungeon,
open play areas,
pool table,
secure, outdoor, heated smoking area.
Large changing rooms,
Large shower areas,
cleaning products in rooms.
Regular GUM clinic at the club, for those who are too worried about visiting one.
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All good stuff, but all pales into insignificance when compared to the most important element to any club, namely WHO (not what) you have, especially in "front-of-house". The person who meets and greets, gives a first impression and makes a guest feel welcome is the biggest key to success or failure. I can think of club owners / managers who felt that any "punter" was fair game to their own personal lusts. Likewise I can remember owners who would argue and fight in front of members. On the other hand I can think of owners who have become legends for their friendliness and welcoming of people to their clubs. Guess which clubs have folded and which are resounding successes as a result of such characters?
At the end of the day, your club will be a people thing. The people who you have to run the club far outweigh the value of the "things" that you have to offer. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hi guys. Thanks for all your inputs. We will take all these into consideration when starting everything up. We would hope to be up and running for a New Year's Eve party |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hi guys. Thanks for all your inputs. We will take all these into consideration when starting everything up. We would hope to be up and running for a New Year's Eve party "
Your license applications will likely take longer than three months to be approved, unless you mean new years eve 2015/2016 |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Panda, sorry darling I'm not upto date on the licence side of things. However one of our partners will be dealing with all this. So I suppose we might have abit of a set back. Worse case surely we can open for free on New Year's Eve. Then it would just be like any other private house party wouldn't it? |
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Decide whether you're going to get licensed for alcohol or simply have people bring their own which you label and serve back to them.
Many people prefer the latter cos it's cheaper and they can have exactly what they prefer to drink. However, in my experience, more people are under the influence if they're drinking their own booze.
Make sure the smoking area is a generous size as it's often the case that non-smokers go there for the craic and to get out into cooler air.
Personally I prefer clubs with a good sized social area and where I can attend clothed instead of dressed down to lingerie. Even more so when the dress code is anything smart and clean but also happily encourages those who want to opt for lingerie or nude - I like the mix, but find (as a single female) that being able to wear whatever encourages single women to attend. Not all of us are comfy in just knicks, especially on a first visit.
I like clubs that encourage single men but who take a lot of time to explain the rules. And to enforce them, have staff available and recognisable in all areas of the club to deal with any issues before they become a problem.
Have a good mix of play rooms including invite only, lockable, open to all and with windows.
I like a dancefloor and good music too. |
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Oh, and have a non members night perhaps once a month so people can try before they have to get membership - it can be expensive to pay upfront for a year if you're not sure if it's for you. Just make it guestlist only and have people sign up in advance so you know who will be attending and also so people have to put a little thought into attending. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Panda, sorry darling I'm not upto date on the licence side of things. However one of our partners will be dealing with all this. So I suppose we might have abit of a set back. Worse case surely we can open for free on New Year's Eve. Then it would just be like any other private house party wouldn't it? "
Your council will likely see that as a commercial venture even if its free not a house party and will not be impressed |
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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago
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"Should it be expect
Oohhh.... glad to see another spelling and grammar snob like me, ha ha ha.
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Same here, but seriously, when I see businesses with signs and promo material written by someone who cannot spell or punctuate properly, I naturally wonder whether their hygiene regime, safety regs etc are being handled in the same slapdash manner. How long does it take to proof-read something you are using to generate money?
(Oh, and I realise some people are dyslexic, but if that's the case then someone else should be doing the written stuff, in the same way you don't make a blind man your driver.) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Devil Thankyou for your ideas. Wolf, I suppose it's a good job I won't be doings any of the signs or writing info then
Oh dear don't wana annoy the local council do we. Suppose it might be next new year then lol
We will see soon anyway. Thanks everyone!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Always thought an ex cold war nuclear bunker would make a great club, usually out of the way, discreet, sound proofing would not be an issue.
Personally we would like a area made like an Arabian tent with huge pillows and draped ceilings.
A proper lounge like in a gentleman's club complete with leather chairs, fire place and bookcases.
A disco room. A room under a room with a glass ceiling /floor for those who fancy some upskirt action. Plus all the usual stuff.
And finally a carry on room where you are only allowed to communicate via double entendre.
Oooerrrrr missus |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck
Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x"
Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck
Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x
Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device"
You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. |
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck
Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x
Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device
You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity. "
Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I may be wrong here but I seem to remember that if you are selling alcohol you will need to have security cameras (which puts some punters off) and it also gives the police right of entry |
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck
Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x
Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device
You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity.
Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary. "
I have to jump in finally having chuckled at so much half truths, cobblers and fantasy information . Having run a fully licenced venue for swingers AND chaired the licence committee for 4 years, any premises licenced since the current legislation since 2005/6 you have only 2 options , a PRIVATE CLUB , which cannot run for profit OR a premises licence . It ONLY needs a sexual licence if there is ANY direct relationship between the payment of money and any sexual service or entertainment, swinging DOES NOT fall under this category , I guess if you think about it a travel lodge / hotel would be as likely to need it.....so I hope that clears it up ? Yes the police can enter but in 4 years we had 1 visit and he stayed for a drink ! The premises licence covers playing and performing music, entertainment and sale and supply of alcohol . |
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"Some counties won't give licences to anything sex based so check first x but good luck
Swinging is not a licenceable activity! x
Swinging as an activity isn't, but a venue for sexual purposes is. Things like massage parlours, strip clubs and escort services all have a license to grant them permission to operate a sex based business. All businesses have some associated licensing. Dancing isn't a licensable activity but if you want a DJ to okay tunes in a venue, you need an entertainment license. They also extend to things like operating hours, the businesses responsibility for noise control etc and act as an auditing device
You need a licence for music and the sale of alcohol, a premises licence or not if a private club. You are not selling sex as a commodity at a swingers club. The swinging is a by product of like minded sociable people. You don't pay to have sex! If you are lucky enough to meet someone you click with and want to take things further then that is a mutual agreement between the people involved. Some people go to clubs and don't have sex!!! That is why a licence is not needed for that specific activity.
Having worked in a swinger club and a lap dancing club and talked about these things with the managers, the premises have to be granted a licence as a sexual venue, in the same way a takeaway needs to be granted a licence to be used as a takeaway and not someone's front room. Its not the activity, its the building. Its largely jumping through council hoops but its necessary.
I have to jump in finally having chuckled at so much half truths, cobblers and fantasy information . Having run a fully licenced venue for swingers AND chaired the licence committee for 4 years, any premises licenced since the current legislation since 2005/6 you have only 2 options , a PRIVATE CLUB , which cannot run for profit OR a premises licence . It ONLY needs a sexual licence if there is ANY direct relationship between the payment of money and any sexual service or entertainment, swinging DOES NOT fall under this category , I guess if you think about it a travel lodge / hotel would be as likely to need it.....so I hope that clears it up ? Yes the police can enter but in 4 years we had 1 visit and he stayed for a drink ! The premises licence covers playing and performing music, entertainment and sale and supply of alcohol ."
What about a DPS license too . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some more great ideas thanks guys. We have already looked into the bunker thing. The problem usually is entrance. And if you find one that has a good entrance and parking then they usually cost a lot of money. That doesn't mean we haven't thought about possibly building a club that is half under ground and half above ground this solution come from the idea of the bunkers. The rough design ended up looking like what most people would consider a teletubies house! This plan is still a option but we need to find the right amount of land to build on. Oh and check the water table!!! as for a drinks licence I think we would only sell soft drink aswell as tea and coffee. We also want to have plenty of parking at the club without having to disturb neighbours etc. Thanks everyone for your ideas |
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From what I have read here, you need to go back to the drawing board. You need to gather your team, look at the skills you have between you, do a SHIT LOAD of research into running a swinging club and then decide if you have it in you.
No disrepect but so many people think that it's easy to run a club...it isn't. It's not like opening a house up for a party or opening a pub up for drinks. It is so much more and you will not believe the hoops you will have to jump through to get permission from the council and licensing to run a club.
Don't set yourself up to fail. Do all of the leg work now and get a real feel for how the place is going to run. Sit across the table with the council and before you disregard an alcohol licence, sit across the desk with the licencing guys and the police too.
The more open you are about your activities, the more help you will get from the authorities. Make them your friends and allies.
When you look into every little detail, you will realise that this game is a HUGE amount of work. The TEN notice that somebody mentioned earlier for the temporary sale of alcohol....just look at that form online and when you get to the 21st page, you may realise what you are up against.
It's great getting ideas about what to put in a club, but get the foundations right first, otherwise I give you 3 months and you will be closed.
This is friendly advice from somebody who works 80-90 hours a week running a club and has gone grey over the last 4 years!
Vicky xxx |
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Here's a suggestion what about a swingers club in the trees.
Stick with it don't run off yet lol
Buy a small wood or copse ok u may not get permission to build permanent structures but what about tree houses with bridges.
Think horny ewoks.
Be secluded and very different or a swingers club on a boat moored in say Portsmouth Harbour.
An ex navy vessel?
Or one of the forts in the solent? |
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"From what I have read here, you need to go back to the drawing board. You need to gather your team, look at the skills you have between you, do a SHIT LOAD of research into running a swinging club and then decide if you have it in you.
No disrepect but so many people think that it's easy to run a club...it isn't. It's not like opening a house up for a party or opening a pub up for drinks. It is so much more and you will not believe the hoops you will have to jump through to get permission from the council and licensing to run a club.
Don't set yourself up to fail. Do all of the leg work now and get a real feel for how the place is going to run. Sit across the table with the council and before you disregard an alcohol licence, sit across the desk with the licencing guys and the police too.
The more open you are about your activities, the more help you will get from the authorities. Make them your friends and allies.
When you look into every little detail, you will realise that this game is a HUGE amount of work. The TEN notice that somebody mentioned earlier for the temporary sale of alcohol....just look at that form online and when you get to the 21st page, you may realise what you are up against.
It's great getting ideas about what to put in a club, but get the foundations right first, otherwise I give you 3 months and you will be closed.
This is friendly advice from somebody who works 80-90 hours a week running a club and has gone grey over the last 4 years!
Vicky xxx"
;-) spot on xx |
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"From what I have read here, you need to go back to the drawing board. You need to gather your team, look at the skills you have between you, do a SHIT LOAD of research into running a swinging club and then decide if you have it in you.
No disrepect but so many people think that it's easy to run a club...it isn't. It's not like opening a house up for a party or opening a pub up for drinks. It is so much more and you will not believe the hoops you will have to jump through to get permission from the council and licensing to run a club.
Don't set yourself up to fail. Do all of the leg work now and get a real feel for how the place is going to run. Sit across the table with the council and before you disregard an alcohol licence, sit across the desk with the licencing guys and the police too.
The more open you are about your activities, the more help you will get from the authorities. Make them your friends and allies.
When you look into every little detail, you will realise that this game is a HUGE amount of work. The TEN notice that somebody mentioned earlier for the temporary sale of alcohol....just look at that form online and when you get to the 21st page, you may realise what you are up against.
It's great getting ideas about what to put in a club, but get the foundations right first, otherwise I give you 3 months and you will be closed.
This is friendly advice from somebody who works 80-90 hours a week running a club and has gone grey over the last 4 years!
Vicky xxx"
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Sadly, its gone now 
