I think they are different chams is strictly a swingers club, where I believe the retro club is a sex club that swingers use. We've never been to the retro club but have been to chams many times and had the best times there, as said best to give chams a call before you turn up if your wanting to join as a single male

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Retro pay single females to go there, chams is just swingers

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

They really pay women to go there?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well they advertise that certain ladies will be there on set nights so I assume so. I could however be wrong

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By *habsMan over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

My only question: do you believe you have to choose one or the other?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My only question: do you believe you have to choose one or the other?"

Was wondering which was better for a first timer. From the few who have inboxed me chams seems the friendly of the two to ease into it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well they advertise that certain ladies will be there on set nights so I assume so. I could however be wrong"

no think you are so right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x"

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

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By *aul n PleasureCouple over a year ago

Birmingham

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade ! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade ! "

The ladies that hostess are lovely and fun... It may not be for everyone but it is still a valid option x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

The ladies that hostess are lovely and fun... It may not be for everyone but it is still a valid option x"

I dare say they are but its not swinging

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By *antasticaCouple over a year ago

London

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade ! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

The ladies that hostess are lovely and fun... It may not be for everyone but it is still a valid option x

I dare say they are but its not swinging "

Why... I know many of them are on here and enjoy it.. xx I've been to retro and was well looked after x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade ! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

So prostitutes then? Why are they still able to operate? Fully expect now to be banned! But ffs they pay women??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To us it's a loop hole they pay the girls to be there you pay the club to get in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

So prostitutes then? Why are they still able to operate? Fully expect now to be banned! But ffs they pay women??"

It's very common to hire 'entertainers' I know of a number of established clubs that have done so, possibly to help kick start numbers and keep men coming in.

It's no different to giving 'benefits to greedy girls' or 'club promoters' that lure men in, just look at meets (at clubs). Very often the single woman or couple wont even attend the night in question, but repeatedly 'big up' certain clubs; on here and elsewhere.

Once the men are in and have paid membership ..... the cash is in the till.

Who can they complain too?

Sex isn't guaranteed so no ombudsman address available.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

So prostitutes then? Why are they still able to operate? Fully expect now to be banned! But ffs they pay women??"

Because no they are not paid to have sex... They can still refuse people.. but having women there is always a good way to get people in.. why else do you think at many places women are free

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

So prostitutes then? Why are they still able to operate? Fully expect now to be banned! But ffs they pay women??

Because no they are not paid to have sex... They can still refuse people.. but having women there is always a good way to get people in.. why else do you think at many places women are free

Oh please ! Get real !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are hostesses at retro.. but it's a great club x

Chams is hit and miss in the day x

Hostesses lol we have refuse collection

operatives but they still pick up our bin

lets call a spade a spade !

So prostitutes then? Why are they still able to operate? Fully expect now to be banned! But ffs they pay women??

Because no they are not paid to have sex... They can still refuse people.. but having women there is always a good way to get people in.. why else do you think at many places women are free

Oh please ! Get real ! "

Very real as someone else pointed out.. letting women in reduced or cheaper encourages more, which encourages more guys.... I've never seen retro offer guaranteed sex.... But yet have done at parties held at other clubs.

i personally found the guys at retro to be very respectful ... The girls are paid to entertain not have sex. .

Never worked out why people get so upset by it... As if they think there are no escorts in other clubs they are deluded . The clubs may not pay them but guys do to go to clubs with ...

Retro and the other clubs with hostesses are different yet still a club that some will enjoy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Retro is a very successful club because of the way they do things, if you don't like it or don't agree, don't go !

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By *uited staffs guyMan over a year ago

staffordshire

Been to retro and Chams, Chams can very hit and miss and quiet in the daytime, retro often busier

I've seen the women in retro say no plenty of times, if they don't like the guy etc

Looking at the economics even if they do get expenses or whatever it's called, once the clubs taken it's running costs, paid the staff, profits etc it'd hardly be lucrative, you'd probably earn 10 times more if you were a prostitute!

Chams is great fun as well, there is a single guy waiting list but you might just get lucky

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok last post on this if they did not pay the girls they would not be there would they so draw your own conclusions

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By *uckable69Couple over a year ago

Birmingham

Very true, if you didn't pay the girls the would not be there. at the end of the day it's a glorified brothel.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Right thanks for all the opinions and info people

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By *aul n PleasureCouple over a year ago

Birmingham

It's a no brainier really simple choice..go with people who are paid to b with you or go with people who genuinely want to

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By *eachyCoupleCouple over a year ago

Events as advertised …

"Ok last post on this if they did not pay the girls they would not be there would they so draw your own conclusions "

Although we hate getting involved in forum discussions because of the faceless bullshit. .......

We have been to both.

One is a swingers club.

One is part brothel/part swingers club.

They both work. You choose where you'd rather go. We made our choice on the back of actually checking them out.

Whatever your flavor. Enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not sure why this is faceless bull shit we all have opinions ! they are all as valid as yours,we have been to chams many times but after looking at retro's website you would have to be a fool to not know what was going on the girls are advertised weeks even months in advance and in our experience that is not the typical behaviour of single girls in the scene, these type of clubs are hiding behind our life style which let's face it comes under enough scrutiny without this type of activity being associated with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Ok last post on this if they did not pay the girls they would not be there would they so draw your own conclusions

Although we hate getting involved in forum discussions because of the faceless bullshit. .......

We have been to both.

One is a swingers club.

One is part brothel/part swingers club.

They both work. You choose where you'd rather go. We made our choice on the back of actually checking them out.

Whatever your flavor. Enjoy. "

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok last post on this if they did not pay the girls they would not be there would they so draw your own conclusions

Although we hate getting involved in forum discussions because of the faceless bullshit. .......

We have been to both.

One is a swingers club.

One is part brothel/part swingers club.

They both work. You choose where you'd rather go. We made our choice on the back of actually checking them out.

Whatever your flavor. Enjoy. "

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By *antasticaCouple over a year ago

London

"Not sure why this is faceless bull shit we all have opinions ! they are all as valid as yours,we have been to chams many times but after looking at retro's website you would have to be a fool to not know what was going on the girls are advertised weeks even months in advance and in our experience that is not the typical behaviour of single girls in the scene, these type of clubs are hiding behind our life style which let's face it comes under enough scrutiny without this type of activity being associated with it. "

We love going to swinging clubs. We used to be regulars in Xtasia and Chams. We were planning to check out Retro next time we are in the Midlands...but not anymore! Its a bit shocking to hear about girls being paid to attend this club! Anyway we are not into singles at all...neither the guys nor the girls!

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By *rummiePartyManMan over a year ago

birmingham

"We love going to swinging clubs. We used to be regulars in Xtasia and Chams. We were planning to check out Retro next time we are in the Midlands...but not anymore! Its a bit shocking to hear about girls being paid to attend this club! Anyway we are not into singles at all...neither the guys nor the girls! "

You can add the Private Club to your "avoid list" too then, as it operates in the same way as Retro. (Retro copied the Private Club)

Sounds like Liberty Elite is the answer for you - a club that bans all kinds of single people, for daring to be, "un-coupled"!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can add the Private Club to your "avoid list" too then, as it operates in the same way as Retro. (Retro copied the Private Club)

Sounds like Liberty Elite is the answer for you - a club that bans all kinds of single people, for daring to be, "un-coupled"!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can add the Private Club to your "avoid list" too then, as it operates in the same way as Retro. (Retro copied the Private Club)

Sounds like Liberty Elite is the answer for you - a club that bans all kinds of single people, for daring to be, "un-coupled"!

I think that's a little unfair people are allowed to choose to play with couples only it is there choice

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