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How in this day and age do some clubs get away with letting single women in and not single men surely this is blatant discrimination which is against the law now? If it was other way round people would be up in arms about it |
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"How in this day and age do some clubs get away with letting single women in and not single men surely this is blatant discrimination which is against the law now? If it was other way round people would be up in arms about it"
Have you seen the way some single men behave at clubs? There probably lies your answer. |
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Because by Section 29 of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, sex discrimination against a person seeking to obtain or use goods, facilities or services - which expressly includes facilities for entertainment, recreation or refreshment - is rendered unlawful only if the goods, facilities or services concerned are made available to the public or a section of the public. By its very nature a private members' club does not offer goods, facilities or services to the public or any section of the public but only to club members who are privately elected to membership by management of the club or a committee of its members under the club rules.
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they limit numbers, thats all.
would you rather they didnt and you have a dozen couples/single women and 200 blokes?
what chance any fun from your initial outlay to enter the club then? |
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"they limit numbers, thats all.
would you rather they didnt and you have a dozen couples/single women and 200 blokes?
what chance any fun from your initial outlay to enter the club then?"
No I think he means on 'couples only' nights, which actually are couples and single women only nights.
Single men arn't permitted entry, but despite having a reduced ability to enter the club; still have the highest entry and membership fee's. |
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"How in this day and age do some clubs get away with letting single women in and not single men surely this is blatant discrimination which is against the law now? If it was other way round people would be up in arms about it"
No any person running a licences premise does not have to let anyone in or serve them. No reason has to be given .
Even though they a re called public houses it's actually a very private house.
As long as you don't give a reason that is racist eg no blacks, homophobic no gays , or sexist no women or men if anyone says why , you can reply because your argumentative and we are not sure if you will start a fight
Any publican or decent door supervisor will know that |
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It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
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I have to say ive never heard of a club refusing entry on the grounds of colour.. |
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
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you were driving a bus?? and turned up somewhere enmass without checking to see if you would be able to enter...
Then also you were able to take the 'bus' and bus load of 20 men somewhere else easily?
well knock me down with a fella. (cough feather... I meant feather) |
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
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are you certain it wasnt a bmfc night or something?
im certain if the same club held a pastey average white man fan club, then all the black guys would have been turned away also |
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These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor |
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I think if u don't like a clubs rules then find another I'm sure there's plenty off them about . My local club held a black for white night and I still got in lol |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
The other thing you can do is go somewhere else where you feel an ickle bit more wanted. |
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More interesting is the amount of times you hear single men in clubs (or not so single) going on about how they would never bring their own wife/girlfriend/partner to such a place before going for a wander round the playrooms looking for a poke. Lost count of the number of times we have heard this conversation. |
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
are you certain it wasnt a bmfc night or something?
im certain if the same club held a pastey average white man fan club, then all the black guys would have been turned away also"
White guys aren't banned from them either from what I have seen. |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
I've only been there once and thought it was a perfect example of why clubs that limit single men are far better for everyone. And that includes singlemen. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder? "
It is not because women call the tune. For most swinging clubs, couples generate the money. And that is why it is in a clubs interest, because it is a business model that is proven to work. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder? "
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. |
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I don't think limiting them helps... We haven't really done couples nights because the few we have been to was a bit flat. Prefer the nights with singles allowed too even if we haven't played with any. The atmosphere just seemed more bright and playful.
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men." hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view! |
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tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in. |
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it's purely to limit the numbers, i'm a single man and i'm all for it, i wouldn't like it if i paid (twice what everyone else was) to get into a club and there was one women and 267 men there it would be crap!
i have no problem paying more or being limited on getting into a club if it's purely to keep the place running right (which it is)
and by the way the hint of racism post as a white man why would you want to go to a bbc night? |
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
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Which club was this? |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in."
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely? |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view! "
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it. "
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely? |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely? "
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it.
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely? "
It's not easy to pre-empt how a person will behave. Book, cover etc |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone."
It's not the shortage or glut of men that governs it, it's the shortage of women! Fact is not as many women seem to be interested in going to adult clubs. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it.
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely?
It's not easy to pre-empt how a person will behave. Book, cover etc"
Does paying a large amount of money tell us how people will behave then? |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely? "
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
Which club was this?"
From his previous posting, the imaginary one in his head so he can bang his "oh no poor white man" drum.
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone.
It's not the shortage or glut of men that governs it, it's the shortage of women! Fact is not as many women seem to be interested in going to adult clubs."
That's not the point. The point is that plenty of men are prepared to pay what clubs charge...and so long as that is the case, the prices won't change. |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone.
It's not the shortage or glut of men that governs it, it's the shortage of women! Fact is not as many women seem to be interested in going to adult clubs."
I've been to a few clubs now and seen plenty single ladies, at my local club we have had 12 on a Friday night! All who wanted men except me! |
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on the subject of this thread, this comes up time and time and time on these forums.
In the swinging world there are possibly 15 men to every woman/couple who meet these numbers are quite easily reflected in numbers who "attend" clubs as well. Men are the money makers and droves of your fellow men are quite happy to pay anything for the privileged and while they are the prices will remain high for men.
The clubs need to make money they are businesses not charities, so they charge each demographic what they think they can and this often means women couples men.
As for unfairness well it might be, but no ones forcing you to swing as a "single" guy, you can quite easily vote with your feet not pay the money and go do something else.
However, the last "proper" (not swinging) night out we had cost us about £60 and we went home at 1am, even at £40, £50, £60, £70+ the clubs are offering a competitive cost compared to a night out in any town.
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone.
It's not the shortage or glut of men that governs it, it's the shortage of women! Fact is not as many women seem to be interested in going to adult clubs.
That's not the point. The point is that plenty of men are prepared to pay what clubs charge...and so long as that is the case, the prices won't change."
I understand, it's take it or leave it! Market forces are everywhere. As long as people pay to go to a football match players will get a fortune and fans will suffer. Because it exists it doesn't make it fair! |
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I understand, it's take it or leave it! Market forces are everywhere. As long as people pay to go to a football match players will get a fortune and fans will suffer. Because it exists it doesn't make it fair! "
Why does life have to be "fair" ? I see things unfair on a day to day basis life isnt fair and will remain unfair for the foreseeable future.
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it.
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely?
It's not easy to pre-empt how a person will behave. Book, cover etc
Does paying a large amount of money tell us how people will behave then? "
The price isn't to deter...the price is set because clubs are a business and they feel its a competitive price. You pay if you feel it's worth it. It's how many products or services are sold.
The issue of control is addressed differently... A) couples only nights b) limiting male membership
It's strange that you're questioning a business model that works, and is in many cases, profitable. Things will remain as they are until things stop working. |
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"on the subject of this thread, this comes up time and time and time on these forums.
In the swinging world there are possibly 15 men to every woman/couple who meet these numbers are quite easily reflected in numbers who "attend" clubs as well. Men are the money makers and droves of your fellow men are quite happy to pay anything for the privileged and while they are the prices will remain high for men.
The clubs need to make money they are businesses not charities, so they charge each demographic what they think they can and this often means women couples men.
As for unfairness well it might be, but no ones forcing you to swing as a "single" guy, you can quite easily vote with your feet not pay the money and go do something else.
However, the last "proper" (not swinging) night out we had cost us about £60 and we went home at 1am, even at £40, £50, £60, £70+ the clubs are offering a competitive cost compared to a night out in any town.
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I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed. |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
Prices will come down when there's a shortage of men. Whatever rate exists at present is evidently competitive... Supply and demand...capitalism isn't always fair to everyone.
It's not the shortage or glut of men that governs it, it's the shortage of women! Fact is not as many women seem to be interested in going to adult clubs.
That's not the point. The point is that plenty of men are prepared to pay what clubs charge...and so long as that is the case, the prices won't change.
I understand, it's take it or leave it! Market forces are everywhere. As long as people pay to go to a football match players will get a fortune and fans will suffer. Because it exists it doesn't make it fair! "
It is what it is. People made investments to run businesses. They charge what they feel is an acceptable price..which is confirmed by people paying. You don't deem it fair, but clearly lots of people are fine with it. |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it.
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely?
It's not easy to pre-empt how a person will behave. Book, cover etc
Does paying a large amount of money tell us how people will behave then?
The price isn't to deter...the price is set because clubs are a business and they feel its a competitive price. You pay if you feel it's worth it. It's how many products or services are sold.
The issue of control is addressed differently... A) couples only nights b) limiting male membership
It's strange that you're questioning a business model that works, and is in many cases, profitable. Things will remain as they are until things stop working. "
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I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed."
I explained that, you pay a premium because there are so many of you and so many are quite willing to pay.
If you collectively stopped then club owner attitudes would change and they would re evaluate what they charge.
Its exactly the same argument as the women on here being able to demand almost ANYTHING they want in a man, the supply and demand ensure they will get it.
Once again though, no ones forcing you to "swing" as a single though, if the price is too high dont go.
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"on the subject of this thread, this comes up time and time and time on these forums.
In the swinging world there are possibly 15 men to every woman/couple who meet these numbers are quite easily reflected in numbers who "attend" clubs as well. Men are the money makers and droves of your fellow men are quite happy to pay anything for the privileged and while they are the prices will remain high for men.
The clubs need to make money they are businesses not charities, so they charge each demographic what they think they can and this often means women couples men.
As for unfairness well it might be, but no ones forcing you to swing as a "single" guy, you can quite easily vote with your feet not pay the money and go do something else.
However, the last "proper" (not swinging) night out we had cost us about £60 and we went home at 1am, even at £40, £50, £60, £70+ the clubs are offering a competitive cost compared to a night out in any town.
I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed."
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Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
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I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed.
I explained that, you pay a premium because there are so many of you and so many are quite willing to pay.
If you collectively stopped then club owner attitudes would change and they would re evaluate what they charge.
Its exactly the same argument as the women on here being able to demand almost ANYTHING they want in a man, the supply and demand ensure they will get it.
Once again though, no ones forcing you to "swing" as a single though, if the price is too high dont go.
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Not having a partner is a bad thing then? People die you know! |
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"You sit around these forums long enough and the same subjects get discussed again and again
Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
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"You sit around these forums long enough and the same subjects get discussed again and again
Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
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Some stir it up too! |
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"Is it because women call the tune or are the men involved in running the club doing in their own interests I wonder?
load of bollocks. Its pretty simple really! Keep the cost free or to a minimum for ladies and you'll attract more. Charge me at same price as a single bloke and I wouldn't be there 2 or 3 times a week. Plus its to keep guys at a good number and not over run with them.
Unless your gay, do you want to go to a club with no women or barely any couples? You have a sausage fest if you think women should pay same price as men. hey I only asked the question, I didn't say it was my view!
apologies if I came across a bit abrupt. I just don't get why men don't get it.
I do get it, surprising bright for a man! My belief is it doesn't stop rubbish getting in, just rubbish who can pay! I want filtering like all sensible people do. Denying access at the door can be the only way surely?
It's not easy to pre-empt how a person will behave. Book, cover etc
Does paying a large amount of money tell us how people will behave then?
The price isn't to deter...the price is set because clubs are a business and they feel its a competitive price. You pay if you feel it's worth it. It's how many products or services are sold.
The issue of control is addressed differently... A) couples only nights b) limiting male membership
It's strange that you're questioning a business model that works, and is in many cases, profitable. Things will remain as they are until things stop working.
You seem to think I don't understand economics. That's not true. It is about restricting male numbers and only that. If it were half the price double the men may get in and chaos would rain. "
They wouldn't, because a) some nights at some clubs, single men aren't allowed in at all b) some clubs still restrict the number if memberships they give out and have waiting lists |
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"You sit around these forums long enough and the same subjects get discussed again and again
Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
Absolutely glad we're going out tonight "
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I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed.
I explained that, you pay a premium because there are so many of you and so many are quite willing to pay.
If you collectively stopped then club owner attitudes would change and they would re evaluate what they charge.
Its exactly the same argument as the women on here being able to demand almost ANYTHING they want in a man, the supply and demand ensure they will get it.
Once again though, no ones forcing you to "swing" as a single though, if the price is too high dont go.
Not having a partner is a bad thing then? People die you know!"
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"You sit around these forums long enough and the same subjects get discussed again and again
Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
Absolutely glad we're going out tonight
Take me with you?? "
Too expensive taking a single guy with us |
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"You sit around these forums long enough and the same subjects get discussed again and again
Every day is groundhog day on the forums
Thus far today ive seen
Single male prices at clubs
Hairy pussy's
Cant get any meets
look at my profile what I am doing wrong
4 of the 10 topics that need to get discussed every week!
Absolutely glad we're going out tonight
Take me with you??
Too expensive taking a single guy with us "
Lol I'm prepared to pay my own way without moaning...and if I can't, I'll stay at home and watch me some house m.d |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake! "
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex? |
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They wouldn't, because a) some nights at some clubs, single men aren't allowed in at all b) some clubs still restrict the number if memberships they give out and have waiting lists "
How many clubs have a waiting list for men? To my knowledge just1, chams. But so many use that example as if it is the norm not the exception |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?" .
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone. |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone. "
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
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They wouldn't, because a) some nights at some clubs, single men aren't allowed in at all b) some clubs still restrict the number if memberships they give out and have waiting lists
How many clubs have a waiting list for men? To my knowledge just1, chams. But so many use that example as if it is the norm not the exception"
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
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Pretty much. |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
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Aha!
Society is there for the rich then!
You wait till you retire, it's bad enough for me, it's going to be hell for younger generations...I wish I could be there to hear your view then.... |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
Aha!
Society is there for the rich then!
You wait till you retire, it's bad enough for me, it's going to be hell for younger generations...I wish I could be there to hear your view then...."
Boo hoo life isn't fair |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
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I don't do that often either! |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
Aha!
Society is there for the rich then!
You wait till you retire, it's bad enough for me, it's going to be hell for younger generations...I wish I could be there to hear your view then....
Boo hoo life isn't fair "
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over a year ago
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone. "
you are right, it isn't peanuts... but guess what I do...
Budget.....;-)
its not that you can't save up to go.... it just that you can't go as often as you wish....... |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
you are right, it isn't peanuts... but guess what I do...
Budget.....;-)
its not that you can't save up to go.... it just that you can't go as often as you wish....... "
Well said, i can't agree more, happy new year! |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone. "
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
crystal"
So right, it's a credit to you. But just look at what pensioner gets and then see if you could budget that.. No I don't have to swing or go to the pub or have a meal now and then. But what the Hell is life all about if I can't? |
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"I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed."
How much do you pay to have your hair cut? Post it on here and I'll bet there'll be a few miffed women. No one is forced to go to a club, if you don't like the price, go elsewhere. |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
crystal
So right, it's a credit to you. But just look at what pensioner gets and then see if you could budget that.. No I don't have to swing or go to the pub or have a meal now and then. But what the Hell is life all about if I can't? "
I'm missing your point-do you get the same as a pensioner?
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"I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed.
How much do you pay to have your hair cut? Post it on here and I'll bet there'll be a few miffed women. No one is forced to go to a club, if you don't like the price, go elsewhere."
What are you saying? Hard luck mate, but can afford it so I'm alright jack! And as for ladies hair...that's a joke. |
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
crystal
So right, it's a credit to you. But just look at what pensioner gets and then see if you could budget that.. No I don't have to swing or go to the pub or have a meal now and then. But what the Hell is life all about if I can't?
I'm missing your point-do you get the same as a pensioner?
crystal"
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"I thought the thread was about single men paying a premium. If I went to the cinema and was told single men pay three time that of everyone else I'd be a bit miffed.
How much do you pay to have your hair cut? Post it on here and I'll bet there'll be a few miffed women. No one is forced to go to a club, if you don't like the price, go elsewhere.
What are you saying? Hard luck mate, but can afford it so I'm alright jack! And as for ladies hair...that's a joke. "
Why is it a joke - usually 3 times a man's rate at least for a cut. Or is it only a problem if the man has to pay more?
There are plenty of things in life we can't afford - if you got to 62 and never understood that before you're in for a hard time as the years pass by. |
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"So basically your point boils down to clubs should be free to people on benefits in the interest of fairness?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
you are right, it isn't peanuts... but guess what I do...
Budget.....;-)
its not that you can't save up to go.... it just that you can't go as often as you wish.......
Well said, i can't agree more, happy new year! "
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"So basically your point boils down to clubs should be free to people on benefits in the interest of fairness?
Wow, there's a self righteous point of view. No I didn't say that..but you have attitude I'll give you that. Not sure why you carried on this argument."
So what actually is your point? I've read the thread and it's not clear.
I thought you were complaining about how much more it costs men to get into clubs than women. Then it was pointed out that some clubs are reasonable. Then you seemed to be arguing it still isn't fair because you can't afford it.
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"tbh ive seen couples and women behaving rudely and like arses, but thats life PEOPLE are arseholes.
to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
crystal
So right, it's a credit to you. But just look at what pensioner gets and then see if you could budget that.. No I don't have to swing or go to the pub or have a meal now and then. But what the Hell is life all about if I can't?
I'm missing your point-do you get the same as a pensioner?
crystal
I had to take early retirement no I get less till I'm 65"
It's nobody else's fault if you've retired and your finding it hard to live within your means. Either budget better or give something up so you can afford it. You have choices to make, make them wisely because your sounding like a spoilt kid who's had his pocket money cut. |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
Vote with your feet then! The only way establishments get away with this sort of thing is by people allowing themselves to be trampled on.
Complain in the club section. Let other guys know theyre having the piss taken out of them and recommend somewhere else.
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to awnser OP's question its pure economics, if youve got 4 times the amount of single guys to couples and single ladys being in the low dominater which one are you going to give the highest charge to make a profit?
ontop of that is population control, it stops those who are just seeking a quick cheep thrill, which inturn can stop the dickhead getting in.
That all makes sense but it feels like penalty to me as a non troublemaker. Maybe the revenue has to come from somewhere that's a given. But arseholes are often the ones who can afford it. Filtering must happen at the door surely?
You don't go to clubs do you? Not all clubs are prehibitively or excessively priced for men. There are some local to you where that is not the case, you just have to book in advance and as long as you aren't a dick you'll be welcomed back.
Don't assume, it's a big mistake!
Well I stand corrected. Though I'd be interested to know which one? A lot of you criticisms and assumptions don;t stand up to scrutiny. You do know you hav a club near you that charges just a nominal fee for membership and £30 admission on a Friday night? How does that fit with the persecuted minority complex?.
I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
No, we plan, budget and sacrifice as much as we can so we can afford luxuries like going to swinging clubs. It's the same as everything else in life.
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So right, it's a credit to you. But just look at what pensioner gets and then see if you could budget that.. No I don't have to swing or go to the pub or have a meal now and then. But what the Hell is life all about if I can't?
I'm missing your point-do you get the same as a pensioner?
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I had to take early retirement no I get less till I'm 65
It's nobody else's fault if you've retired and your finding it hard to live within your means. Either budget better or give something up so you can afford it. You have choices to make, make them wisely because your sounding like a spoilt kid who's had his pocket money cut."
You haven't got a clue, sorry but you haven't.. |
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This thread was actually about 'couples only' nights; being called 'couples only', when its actually 'NO single men' nights
And people, sharing your private details (fortunes or poverty) not good
Start your own thread |
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It would be silly to let to many men in anyway. I am one and Loads of single guys would turn up and out number everyone else, it would make it more of a nightclub environment which isn't what you want. |
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"More interesting is the amount of times you hear single men in clubs (or not so single) going on about how they would never bring their own wife/girlfriend/partner to such a place before going for a wander round the playrooms looking for a poke. Lost count of the number of times we have heard this conversation."
They should be kicked out. |
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"Most clubs charge women less or even free but men have to pay sometimes quite a lot. Not sure I agree with that! "
It's supply and demand I'm afraid and clubs will always charge what they think is fair and equitable, it may not seem fair to others but back to the original sentance, plentiful supply of single males, demand for single females |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
Fuuuuuuck thaaaaaat!! |
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I don't think its fair that most clubs let females in for free but males they charge for how about if we cant go for free drop the prices for like a 10er or 15 as I live in Teesside and they as there is not many clubs around here I have to travel further a field such as leeds so it cost me petrol to get there there is a couple in the Newcastle area but have to be 25 to get in and as im 22 its a problem .x |
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Just read through the whole thread again and am amazed by some of the comments.
Some seem to go on about fairness FFS since when has sex been fair?
Others seem to think it isn't right because "I can't afford it" Well guess what, I can't afford a fucking Ferrari, but hey ho, I have to live with it.
What do you want? swinger club entrance on the NHS? Maybe I shouldn't have said that, no doubt next week some fancy pants lawyer will have the government in the ECHR claiming access to swinger clubs is a basic human right.
Single guys pay more for swinger club entrance the world over, and those moaning about 20 or 30 quid should take a look at some of the clubs on the continent where 120 or 130€ is commonplace.
It will never change and if you begrudge paying it the maybe it's time to find a new hobby.
For us we look at the single guy prices as similar to the old Stella Artois advert. "Reassuringly expensive" |
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"without single guys, there would be very little cock available.
We are a couple and we never go to a club without one " to be honest, it depends on the male half, if he has single man agenda lol..not aimed at you two, there are " we us" in your posts
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"I don't think its fair that most clubs let females in for free but males they charge for how about if we cant go for free drop the prices for like a 10er or 15 as I live in Teesside and they as there is not many clubs around here I have to travel further a field such as leeds so it cost me petrol to get there there is a couple in the Newcastle area but have to be 25 to get in and as im 22 its a problem .x "
so let me get this right..... the further you travel the cheaper the admission should be?????? |
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Weird thread! It makes perfect sense to me that single guys have to pay when single women don't. It means that the clubs are more likely to attract women than men, meaning the men who do pay to get in don't find themselves sharing the bar with 300 other men and 1 harassed / knackered woman. So it's beneficial to the single men to have to pay. It's in their interests.
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By *MFC PartiesWoman
over a year ago
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
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And before anyone starts asking - this has NEVER and does NOT happen at a BMFC party!! |
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By *MFC PartiesWoman
over a year ago
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"It is a lot worse than not letting single men in. some clubs will not let ANY white men in at all. Yes they where take to court and somehow WON?
I been refused entry into a few place there lose not mine. The one time I was driving and was fist in the line of about 20 friends we all just left and went to a differing place.
The white male in the low of the low in the UK to some people.
are you certain it wasnt a bmfc night or something?
im certain if the same club held a pastey average white man fan club, then all the black guys would have been turned away also"
Even if it WAS a BMFC Party, we would NEVER refuse admission based on the colour of someones skin! |
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"I beleave ifsingle women shud notpay then single men shud not x x whats good for one shud be good for other x x share and share alike x x or charge single women too makes it fair then x x "
women are cheaper or free as bait to get men to pay, sex sells tickets.and makes a profit, without women the clubs would need another gimmick or go bust. |
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"I beleave ifsingle women shud notpay then single men shud not x x whats good for one shud be good for other x x share and share alike x x or charge single women too makes it fair then x x "
So they don't charge anyone, go bust, club closes. Everyone loses out.
Or they charge everyone the same, women go elsewhere, guys won't go because there are no women, they go bust, club closes.
Great idea. |
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Yes i believe in relation to clubs men are discriminated against albeit legally which is a joke but that being said simple solution of single blokes stop going clubs as some have will see signicant reduction in men attending and only then make cost more reasonable.
The argument used by clubs etc is to control numbers by extirtionate prices but in reality its a smokescreen because numbers can be controlled by making membership compulsory for singles and couples alike and then restrict further a particular night by saying as example only twenty single males allowed and on first come first served basis.
Whilst not perfect at least cost wise levels the playing field a bit.
I get regularly asked by some event organisers to go to them but will not pay 30 quid its that simple. Some will say you pay for privilege of potentially playing with couples etc way i see it is privilege is theirs too lol.
Stop going to clubs to get price reduced and club owners be honest as to why charge is disproportionate and not hide behind number control. |
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"I beleave ifsingle women shud notpay then single men shud not x x whats good for one shud be good for other x x share and share alike x x or charge single women too makes it fair then x x
So they don't charge anyone, go bust, club closes. Everyone loses out.
Or they charge everyone the same, women go elsewhere, guys won't go because there are no women, they go bust, club closes.
Great idea."
One of the few sensible posts on this thread.... |
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I say if they take the piss out of singles fuck em. Take your.hard earned and spend it elsewhere and hope they go bust.
We used to get this in weston s mare in the 80s. Clubs barred RAF guys high tourist season but welcomed.their trade winter time. My mates and I boycotted and took our trade to.Bristol..... |
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"I beleave ifsingle women shud notpay then single men shud not x x whats good for one shud be good for other x x share and share alike x x or charge single women too makes it fair then x x
women are cheaper or free as bait to get men to pay, sex sells tickets.and makes a profit, without women the clubs would need another gimmick or go bust."
True... uncomfortable.... but true.... |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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The club ive alway been to i think has kept their single male prices the same for about 6 years now, so i think that's reasonable. They have quite a few overheads and maybe on some quieter nights just about cover their costs.
My only gripe with clubs is if they are going to charge more, please be a bit more choosy which single men they let in. Ive seen groups of men come into together who act like complete twats and piss the couples and women off with the behaviour. |
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Well go to the club concerned and point it out but i do understand how single men get over charged prices and its them what give them big profits its a minority what spoil it for the ones That behave in a ordley manner |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
Totally untrue!! |
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"iam not well up on this but what happens on greedy girls night when i presume they want as many guys as possible "
you get invited or request to be on guest list only time i went cost thirty quid which is ridiculous but did not have to pay nembership i went with mf couple so it was notbad. |
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I am aware of that yes, and yes they do charge £30 maybe for you £30 is peanuts, it isn't for everyone.
You would spend more going out to a town or pub for the night, double easily if you got some food too.
If you can't afford a nominal fee of £30 then clearly swinging clubs are not for you.
Aha!
Society is there for the rich then!
You wait till you retire, it's bad enough for me, it's going to be hell for younger generations...I wish I could be there to hear your view then....
Boo hoo life isn't fair
Very grown up! "
As are your contradicting views! This thread has given me a headache
If you can't afford to go to swinging clubs as a pensioner regardless of what they charge, don't moan about what they charge! |
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"I don't think its fair that most clubs let females in for free but males they charge for how about if we cant go for free drop the prices for like a 10er or 15 as I live in Teesside and they as there is not many clubs around here I have to travel further a field such as leeds so it cost me petrol to get there there is a couple in the Newcastle area but have to be 25 to get in and as im 22 its a problem .x "
Like everyone else, if you can't afford it, don't do it |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor "
lots of guys get to sit down, as the club is always busy and has loads of guests seat are limited, try and chat socialise and maybe you will get on a table, maybe you need to sharpen you social skills |
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"iam not well up on this but what happens on greedy girls night when i presume they want as many guys as possible
you get invited or request to be on guest list only time i went cost thirty quid which is ridiculous but did not have to pay nembership i went with mf couple so it was notbad."
did you get what you wanted out of the evening ,was it a good night ? |
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"Not sure who mentione 30 quid being cheap not sure what planet they from. Question for single ladies and be honest would you pay that fir a club."
Absolutely not! And as it's been said many, many, many times on this thread: it's more difficult to get single women into a club than it is to get a single male into a club. As crude as it sounds, Manrider summed it up perfectly!
Dummies back in everyone, it's the way it is! And it won't be changing anytime soon |
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"Not sure who mentione 30 quid being cheap not sure what planet they from. Question for single ladies and be honest would you pay that fir a club."
Well it's a tenner to get in the shithole night club in my town to get in and £2 for your coat, £4 a drink so if I went there it would cost me way more than £30 for a night out plus a bottle of wine or a couple of cans. Even on a normal night out round the town I used to spend in excess of £50 just on drinks at £3/4 a pop and something to eat on the way home so yeah I'd pay it |
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"Not sure who mentione 30 quid being cheap not sure what planet they from. Question for single ladies and be honest would you pay that fir a club."
I never said £30 was cheap but it's hardly extortionate. Our 2 local clubs charge us as a couple £45 (VA) or £30/20 (tease depending on night), we don't think that's a lot. It's way cheaper than going to the theatre or a gig. It costs us more to get in to London on the train than to get in to Tease. Cinema is £20+. A meal out £30-40. A rock/goth club in London will be around £20 just admission. Most of those there will be travel/parking/drinks on top of it.
Going to a swinging club rarely costs us more than £20 on top of admission. It is a cheap night out unless your comparison is 2 pints in Weatherspoons.
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor
lots of guys get to sit down, as the club is always busy and has loads of guests seat are limited, try and chat socialise and maybe you will get on a table, maybe you need to sharpen you social skills"
I don't understand. Single guys aren't allowed to sit at tables? |
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"I don't understand. Single guys aren't allowed to sit at tables?"
At that club you book a table for a Sat night - there are more people than seats.
The only time we went a single guy was sat at the end of the next (empty) table chatting across the aisle to us. One of the couples who were using the table (apparantly just to store their drinks because we hadn't seen them for over an hour) came back for a top up. They went ballistic at the guy for daring to sit down at a table that wasn't his. It's not a club we've been back to . |
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"These club charge lots of money from single men and than treat them like rubbish one in particular in kent start with E their is no place to sit for single men you cannot go to play rooms so only thing you can do as single man is stand on the corridor
lots of guys get to sit down, as the club is always busy and has loads of guests seat are limited, try and chat socialise and maybe you will get on a table, maybe you need to sharpen you social skills
I don't understand. Single guys aren't allowed to sit at tables?"
Not seen any single guys denied a seat at a table when I've been, you can book a table in advance to make sure you get a seat but people don't stay there all night once they get mingling,
Sounds like the couple who shouted at the guy for sitting at their table instead of politely asking him to move if it bothered them that much should of chilled out a bit!!! |
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By *UNCHBOXMan
over a year ago
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"I don't understand. Single guys aren't allowed to sit at tables?
At that club you book a table for a Sat night - there are more people than seats.
The only time we went a single guy was sat at the end of the next (empty) table chatting across the aisle to us. One of the couples who were using the table (apparantly just to store their drinks because we hadn't seen them for over an hour) came back for a top up. They went ballistic at the guy for daring to sit down at a table that wasn't his. It's not a club we've been back to . "
That is pretty much what happened to me when i went to eurekas for the first time. The table was empty, no drinks no coats or bags to signal someone might be sitting there, and very early in the evening. No-one mentioned when i was admitted, the tables may be reserved. Never been back since, and don't plan to either. |
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Our local club opens 7 days a week, we now only do couples nights due to a minority of single men yet they get 6 days we get 1 think yourselves lucky single men get the best deal |
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Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
in our experience the couples that avoid the mixed nights far outnumber the the ones that seek them out and dont bother with clubs at all.
The users of this forum are a very vocal minority of the scene as a whole and are not particularly representative, at least in the circles we move in anyway.
Bottom line single guys if you dont like it, then you can either vote with your feet and wallets or get yourself a partner. |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
in our experience the couples that avoid the mixed nights far outnumber the the ones that seek them out and dont bother with clubs at all.
The users of this forum are a very vocal minority of the scene as a whole and are not particularly representative, at least in the circles we move in anyway.
Bottom line single guys if you dont like it, then you can either vote with your feet and wallets or get yourself a partner. "
Phew! Don't think much of our self do we? |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price. "
Not sure whether to laugh or cry reading this!
But think I'll laugh! |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
Not sure whether to laugh or cry reading this!
But think I'll laugh! " |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
in our experience the couples that avoid the mixed nights far outnumber the the ones that seek them out and dont bother with clubs at all.
The users of this forum are a very vocal minority of the scene as a whole and are not particularly representative, at least in the circles we move in anyway.
Bottom line single guys if you dont like it, then you can either vote with your feet and wallets or get yourself a partner.
Phew! Don't think much of our self do we? "
i do vote with my feet hence tried club once wont go again i have no need to pander to the aloof ones who think they are special.
Couples and singles are lucky i play with them |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
Not sure whether to laugh or cry reading this!
But think I'll laugh! "
Given some of the nasty women on here, think it works both ways |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
Not sure whether to laugh or cry reading this!
But think I'll laugh!
Given some of the nasty women on here, think it works both ways "
Can't see why they are so unpleasant |
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"Single guys should consider themselves lucky there are women and couples out there that let them play at all, never mind argue about the price.
in our experience the couples that avoid the mixed nights far outnumber the the ones that seek them out and dont bother with clubs at all.
The users of this forum are a very vocal minority of the scene as a whole and are not particularly representative, at least in the circles we move in anyway.
Bottom line single guys if you dont like it, then you can either vote with your feet and wallets or get yourself a partner. "
Wow |
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