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By *ohoho OP Woman
over a year ago
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Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
What are your thoughts? "
How would they know for a start... And not sure they can... We always go together although sometimes go separate too...
Never been refused though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No idea why it should make any difference, but guess they have their reasons."
Yes, the reason is most likely a financial one.
See, if you charge £50 per single man, £10 per single lady and £25 per couple its the difference between £60 revenue and £25.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This point was raised by a single guy a few months back saying if him and his mate go together they are a couple and be aloud in a couple only night. It's a very fine line on what a club will class as a real couple |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own. |
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over a year ago
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"Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own."
So what if a married couple, into separate room fun, go to a club and play separately. Legitimate couple, sexual preference for separate play. What if only the man plays and the lady likes to watch?
Then what? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No idea why it should make any difference, but guess they have their reasons.
Yes, the reason is most likely a financial one.
See, if you charge £50 per single man, £10 per single lady and £25 per couple its the difference between £60 revenue and £25.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've seen 'couples' go to clubs and the female half sits at the bar all night and the male half does the 'single male who will follow anything that might get him some action routine'
If your going as a couple just to save the guy some money on entry, then no I don't think it should be allowed, if you go as a 'couple' for the night, play as a couple (or not play) and leave as a couple then that can sometimes be allowed.
If it's a swingers club that is a private members club, which most are, you need to become a member to join, therefore you should only be allowed entry if the two specific people on the membership attend, so if it's just a one off, this doesn't normally make much sense if you won't be going again together. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own.
So what if a married couple, into separate room fun, go to a club and play separately. Legitimate couple, sexual preference for separate play. What if only the man plays and the lady likes to watch?
Then what?"
We know couples who do this..
But in the club they stay, roam and socialise together or with their "new" partner for the night.
It's just simply to avoid for example the woman sitting at the bar all night, and their guy goes off to play wherever or with whoever he can.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I still want to know how they would know.. unless Lee and I tell people on club nights no one guesses.. however we don't go on couples nights either..although would like to.
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"Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
What are your thoughts? "
People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"happend to me went to a g/girl party with a female from here and was told was not a real couple, as i had been before as a single."
That's laughable.. both myself and my partner in perversion hold singles accounts for most places. And I've always taken a different guy with me till recently to greedy girl nights... Never had a problem..
The club's I've been to have never been like that.
In fact I picked up a guy outside once too... Had to ask him name once in lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I still want to know how they would know.. unless Lee and I tell people on club nights no one guesses.. however we don't go on couples nights either..although would like to.
Cali"
Someone said above- they do a Mr & Mrs style quiz.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I still want to know how they would know.. unless Lee and I tell people on club nights no one guesses.. however we don't go on couples nights either..although would like to.
Cali
Someone said above- they do a Mr & Mrs style quiz. "
Lol really. I'd have failed that with my husband lol .. not sure it really matters as long as the couples play together.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No idea why it should make any difference, but guess they have their reasons.
Yes, the reason is most likely a financial one.
See, if you charge £50 per single man, £10 per single lady and £25 per couple its the difference between £60 revenue and £25.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No idea why it should make any difference, but guess they have their reasons.
Yes, the reason is most likely a financial one.
See, if you charge £50 per single man, £10 per single lady and £25 per couple its the difference between £60 revenue and £25.
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But in a couples only night it's mute point as single men would not be allowed in, I still don't understand how they would know you are not a proper couple |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own."
And this the issue - we have nothing against teaming up but then usually the guys wander off trying to crash in on couples...reason why some clubs wont accept that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own.
And this the issue - we have nothing against teaming up but then usually the guys wander off trying to crash in on couples...reason why some clubs wont accept that"
But how would they decide.. we are not a romantic couple but enjoy playing together.. I do like to sit back and watch Lee play with others but I'm always there... Same as he likes to sit back and watch me sometimes.. we do like to play as a couple too x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
What are your thoughts?
People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!)"
Agree totally and couples that are clearly not together on a couples night should be asked to leave.
And if it's a singles night I can understand a club being pissed off if "couples" benefit from a cheaper admission and then do there own thing as soon as thry've paid their admission. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!)"
That's a tough one to police against though, my wife can be quite a greedy girl when in a club so I often find myself at a loose end so sometimes I do take a wander around.
Is it a little wrong singles going as couples....Yes as far as the clubs are concerned but we all do things during our normal day to day life to save money so why should it be any different when comes to this lifestyle |
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I don't blame clubs trying to clamp down on this on couples and single lady nights. We have been many a time where the 'couple' split up and do their own thing once inside. Some of the guys can get quite annoying and I'm guessing perhaps there have been complaints from some of the membership so they're being more vigilant. One alarm bell that you're not a real couple - no couple membership! We have met fuck buddies who have single and couple membership and play together and with others, as most of us do but personally think its out of order for those who turn up together then fail to interact with each other all night, by interaction I'm not referring to sex, some don't even speak! By the way, we've never complained - a firm no thanks works well ?? |
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By *ohoho OP Woman
over a year ago
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This happened last night. A male friend of mine had been to this club with me on occasion and several other ladies. So they knew he was not in a relationship with anyone in particular.
It was a greedy girl night. I didn't understand their reasoning. He never plays with anyone other than the woman he goes with. As said above plenty of married men act as is they are single.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clubs we have been that allow singles to "team up" have rules set so that they arrive, leave and only play as a couple.
No single allowed to roam or play in the club on their own.
And this the issue - we have nothing against teaming up but then usually the guys wander off trying to crash in on couples...reason why some clubs wont accept that
But how would they decide.. we are not a romantic couple but enjoy playing together.. I do like to sit back and watch Lee play with others but I'm always there... Same as he likes to sit back and watch me sometimes.. we do like to play as a couple too x"
what you have described is still classed as being and playing as a couple.
same as if it were just girl-girl and guys watching.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a singles membership at a club, it's a private members club. I can't take a guest unless he is a) a Single member or b) has a couples membership with me. I've only done it once. I think it's unfortunate that they don't have a 'guest' category for women like me. Just means I won't go ad often as I might otherwise. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have a singles membership at a club, it's a private members club. I can't take a guest unless he is a) a Single member or b) has a couples membership with me. I've only done it once. I think it's unfortunate that they don't have a 'guest' category for women like me. Just means I won't go ad often as I might otherwise."
Or in fact a 'guest' category for either sex - or in fact couples!!
It is often the case that friends from far afield would love to visit a club with members - and would be unable to do so regularly, hence little point in paying membership fees!
The club would benefit from the one off entry fee, bar takings (soft or licensed) and the additional presence of other visitors! It's a win/win for all concerned!!
Never understood why existing club members can't bring a 'guest' or several for a one off visit?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This happened last night. A male friend of mine had been to this club with me on occasion and several other ladies. So they knew he was not in a relationship with anyone in particular.
It was a greedy girl night. I didn't understand their reasoning. He never plays with anyone other than the woman he goes with. As said above plenty of married men act as is they are single.
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I do think that is a bit odd.. As I used to go to greedy girls nights and often take a chaperone with me.. he was also free to play with the other greedy girls if he wanted too.. guess they saw it as a loss in money.
I know most greedy girls nights have free or heavily reduced entry for the couples with girls that are playing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Never understood why existing club members can't bring a 'guest' or several for a one off visit? "
this... As I have a few friends that want to go but dont live close enough. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a singles membership at a club, it's a private members club. I can't take a guest unless he is a) a Single member or b) has a couples membership with me. I've only done it once. I think it's unfortunate that they don't have a 'guest' category for women like me. Just means I won't go ad often as I might otherwise.
Or in fact a 'guest' category for either sex - or in fact couples!!
It is often the case that friends from far afield would love to visit a club with members - and would be unable to do so regularly, hence little point in paying membership fees!
The club would benefit from the one off entry fee, bar takings (soft or licensed) and the additional presence of other visitors! It's a win/win for all concerned!!
Never understood why existing club members can't bring a 'guest' or several for a one off visit? "
I now have a couples membership that I probably will never use again. Doh!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If two singles head to a club together that's there choice and can't c why that is a problem but If its a couples night and u intend to play alone then yes would consider that to be wrong(that would also include separate room play couples in our opinion) but if two single go together to a couples night and play as a couple we wouldn't c a problem with it. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!)
Agree totally and couples that are clearly not together on a couples night should be asked to leave.
And if it's a singles night I can understand a club being pissed off if "couples" benefit from a cheaper admission and then do there own thing as soon as thry've paid their admission."
if it is on a couples night then I kinda agree... the letter of the rules vs the spirit in which it is intended.....
if they are playing together staying together then cool... if they are seperating then it isn't really in the spirit of what the night is intended for...
if is a mixed night, or a greedy girls night then I don't see an issue as there are going to be singles there anyway....... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!)
Agree totally and couples that are clearly not together on a couples night should be asked to leave.
And if it's a singles night I can understand a club being pissed off if "couples" benefit from a cheaper admission and then do there own thing as soon as thry've paid their admission.
if it is on a couples night then I kinda agree... the letter of the rules vs the spirit in which it is intended.....
if they are playing together staying together then cool... if they are seperating then it isn't really in the spirit of what the night is intended for...
if is a mixed night, or a greedy girls night then I don't see an issue as there are going to be singles there anyway......."
exactly what we think. |
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People are going to couples nights to play with couples and if you're going with a single guy and "split up" or "play alone" then its pretty much a single guy in a club on a couples night.
I have seen it in previous clubs and its not something im a big fan of (On couples nights!)
Agree totally and couples that are clearly not together on a couples night should be asked to leave.
And if it's a singles night I can understand a club being pissed off if "couples" benefit from a cheaper admission and then do there own thing as soon as thry've paid their admission.
if it is on a couples night then I kinda agree... the letter of the rules vs the spirit in which it is intended.....
if they are playing together staying together then cool... if they are seperating then it isn't really in the spirit of what the night is intended for...
if is a mixed night, or a greedy girls night then I don't see an issue as there are going to be singles there anyway....... exactly what we think."
I was going to say, yes, but as mentioned further up there is the lost door revenue to consider.
However, with my business head on I'd turn a blind eye, as in reality there arnt going to be enough women to pair up with all the single guys, so you'll still make money, and if it encourages more females to attend then great! You end up with a club with 5 guys who payed a bit less but 5 more females.... Next time there will be more higher paying singles because there is a good rep about having lots of single females.  ta-fah!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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don't really see a problem like others have said except for couples nights where people are wanting to play more as a pair.
The only way i could go to some would be with a woman older than me whos a member, can drive there just not get in.
So i think its not fair if singles night should be fine to just meet up before and go to it like any normal club  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Been thinking about this one and have come to the conclusion that its down to the club as the way clubs work is never going to be fair for everyone.
As in the op two singles go as a couple the club loses money. The other single guys who know they are singe may feel aggrieved at paying twice as much as the pair of them.
Then you have the whole are they aren't they a couple situation very hard to prove one way or the other very hard to police for the club. So if they have any doubt I'm sure they air on the side of caution.
Now the interpretation of couple is down to the individual club even down to the different members of staff. Trying to lay down a set of rules that cover all the permutations of couple would be a nightmare and end up being very complex.
So couple only nights are very tricky for example a club that has very few members in on said night may be more relaxed about singles teaming up as they get more money through the door and by having more members in a better time for all.
But on a busy night single teams are less desirable.
We all like to save some cash these days but sometimes you just have to suck it up and pay full whack.
Again sorry for the waffle just tried thinking of it from a clubs point of view and can see no real fair answer |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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think no one has anything against singles teaming up for "normal" nights. But it's the couples and single girl nights which cause "grief".
We have been to several clubs on couples only nights and watched how then the (f) part stays dressed near bar and male goes off wandering ... That's the reason why some clubs wont let "teams" in as they know it will cause problems with the other couples and lead to grief... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive taken a few different women to clubs as part of a couple, yeah it saves me some money but also makes the club money seen as tho i wouldent go as a single and the wonen wouldent have gone by themselves therefor ive just made the club money by going as a 'couple', i never follow people around when im there as a single anyway so wouldent do it as part of a 'couple' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ive taken a few different women to clubs as part of a couple, yeah it saves me some money but also makes the club money seen as tho i wouldent go as a single and the wonen wouldent have gone by themselves therefor ive just made the club money by going as a 'couple', i never follow people around when im there as a single anyway so wouldent do it as part of a 'couple'"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Am i missing something re clubs most clubs you have to be member of so for example club charges say 50 quid for single bloke which initself is disgraceful but thats another discussion altogether. Then charge single lady say 20 quid to be a member.
As both have paid membership as singles why should they then not be allowed to go as a couple on a particular occasion and make their night cheaper its like a double whammy hit and is totally wrong as whats point being a member if there are no perks to it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a single I wouldn't want to go to a club on my own, but I don't always go with the same guy as our free time doesn't always match up. My reg club I have used a couple membership with diff people.
I do think a one night memebership should be available so you can maybe visit a club if your on hols say |
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Take it to the European court for human rights..... Not because I think it would make a difference..business is business.. But could you imagine the look on the peoples face when it was read out. Lol.x  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
What are your thoughts? "
Good on them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The big question is, how does a club check whether its a real couple or 2 singles who have partnered up? What are clubs supposed to do to counter fraudulent couples, insist that couples show certification of being real? Insist that couples stick together the whole night? That would deter many folk from attending some clubs in my opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok as a single lady I sometimes have gentleman accompany me to a club. I don't have a boyfriend so I am not part of a 'real' couple.
I arrive and leave with them. Both parties are free to play with others if they wish.
One club has refused admission to singles going together as they are not 'real' couples.
What are your thoughts? "
I think the main reason clubs don't like swinging couples who go their own way going is because its just a way for single guys to get in cheap, if they go in with you then bugger off and play alone they are a single guy and as such should pay as one, many clubs limit the amount of single men that go, how can they monitor the amount going in if some are seen as a couple when going in? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"how can they monitor the amount going in if some are seen as a couple when going in?"
How do they check that they're a real couple? What are they supposed to do, ask to see marriage certificates at the door? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"how can they monitor the amount going in if some are seen as a couple when going in?
How do they check that they're a real couple? What are they supposed to do, ask to see marriage certificates at the door?"
its not a case of checking at the door... it is what is happening once they get thru the doors.....
on a greedy girls night or a mixed night I don't think it should even be an issue.... I think on a couples night it could be considered to be fluanting the spirit of the intended night it they then seperate and go off doing their own things.... |
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By *ohoho OP Woman
over a year ago
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Aren't couples nights loss leaders in most clubs? They want them to come back other nights as well? So I understand that they want to maximise revenue and not discourage other couples from coming back.
However I learnt more about the reason he was refused. He rang and asked them. Apparently because he plays in a private room with the lady that accompanies him only they thought he was just using it as a "knocking shop". Their words. I have heard this from another couple at a different club, they were banned as they didn't play with anyone else as well. They used the excuse that he was not part of a real couple to put him off.
Fair enough it's their club so their rules. But that kinda takes away from the "no pressure to play" doesn't it?
A club with no one playing with each other would indeed be no fun. I love watching others play myself. It's a balancing act, isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is an interesting thread particularly for us as our next event is going to be couples only.
However we are going to allow singles that couple up for the evening, they must however arrive, stay and leave as a couple and this will be policed by the clubs security.
It is a tricky one to be fair but i do believe if it is managed and policed correctly then it can work. Finding a fair balance is the tricky part as some couples like to play with single guys, however a lot prefer not to.
All clubs need to maintain a fair and balanced policy on this ( although difficult at times ) And to be fair the clubs we have been to do a pretty good job. Again a lot of it comes down to personal preference and if staff are trained on a polite approach to a couple that may not be both playing can clear up any misunderstandings immediately |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Aren't couples nights loss leaders in most clubs? They want them to come back other nights as well? So I understand that they want to maximise revenue and not discourage other couples from coming back.
However I learnt more about the reason he was refused. He rang and asked them. Apparently because he plays in a private room with the lady that accompanies him only they thought he was just using it as a "knocking shop". Their words. I have heard this from another couple at a different club, they were banned as they didn't play with anyone else as well. They used the excuse that he was not part of a real couple to put him off.
Fair enough it's their club so their rules. But that kinda takes away from the "no pressure to play" doesn't it?
A club with no one playing with each other would indeed be no fun. I love watching others play myself. It's a balancing act, isn't it?"
Was that from the owners or just a member of staff ? I do find that a very strange thing for a club to do. it does go against everything a swinging club goes for . The cynic in me suggests there has to be more to the story for that to have been said. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Was that from the owners or just a member of staff ? I do find that a very strange thing for a club to do. it does go against everything a swinging club goes for . The cynic in me suggests there has to be more to the story for that to have been said. "
it is possible.... I know of a couple (two married people but not to each other) who use the club as a cheap alternative to a hotel as they meet when they can get away... have sex, leave
and I am sure we have seen couples meet couples in clubs who stay in their own little bubble not saying hello to anyone else and run off to private rooms... then leave |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how can they monitor the amount going in if some are seen as a couple when going in?
How do they check that they're a real couple? What are they supposed to do, ask to see marriage certificates at the door?
its not a case of checking at the door... it is what is happening once they get thru the doors.....
on a greedy girls night or a mixed night I don't think it should even be an issue.... I think on a couples night it could be considered to be fluanting the spirit of the intended night it they then seperate and go off doing their own things...."
Agrees with Fabio - Sorry we have been on couple and single girl nights and "teams" have been there. She stayed at the bar all night getting slowly d*unk and he started following couples around even went into the "couples only room"... This is the issue on the whole ..not that singles team up but that then one remains alone fully dressed and the other "hounds" the other couples... |
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