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We went today & used it,it's a great addition however if I could fault it,(and it's not really a fault more of a recommendation)- personally I'd move the bed to the right hand side which would allow it to be made bigger & then the sofas to the left, but other than that it's a long overdue remake of this area which will be mega popular with couples  |
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"I wonder if this has come about because the club has started allowing single gents most Saturday nights recently, which I know a lot of couples won't be too pleased about?"
Didn't realise that till I just checked on their website  obviously a financial business decision, but yes you're right that means there's now only one couples only event per month for those that don't wish to be bothered by single guys, So that room will definitely be getting used to the max lol |
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Yes I guess financially the club wants/needs the single guys in at however-much it is per chap, but it definitely does change the dynamics having single guys there and a lot of couples don't want that so I guess will either go elsewhere or base themselves in the couples room. |
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By *ohnwpMan 6 weeks ago
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"Yes I guess financially the club wants/needs the single guys in at however-much it is per chap, but it definitely does change the dynamics having single guys there and a lot of couples don't want that so I guess will either go elsewhere or base themselves in the couples room. "
And if the couples all base themselves in couples room single guys will eventually stop going ( or well behaved ones might) which then backfires on club? |
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Good to have somewhere for couples who are not interested in singles to mix. Anything that helps couples and single fems feel better is a good move and the place is always better with the fairer sex around whether they are interested in me or not. |
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"Good to have somewhere for couples who are not interested in singles to mix. Anything that helps couples and single fems feel better is a good move and the place is always better with the fairer sex around whether they are interested in me or not."
What a refreshing viewpoint and we totally agree with you. We often play with select respectful guys at the club but there are a few times when single guys get a bit too much and follow you everywhere when you might just want to chill out. The new couples room is a great addition and will be a welcome escape when needed lol  |
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"Yes I guess financially the club wants/needs the single guys in at however-much it is per chap, but it definitely does change the dynamics having single guys there and a lot of couples don't want that so I guess will either go elsewhere or base themselves in the couples room. "
It definitely changes the dynamics. If unlimited single men are admitted then it will be just like a Friday night. You then have queues of men following you around. We would probably stop going in that scenario, regardless of the couples room (which sounds a great addition). |
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I think it was put out on the website or to those that receive emails they done a survey to ask on opinions and the decision they made was based on the results.
It might be that some couples single women that are open to single guys can only mainly attend on a Saturday so it suits for them.
I think it’s good the club still came to a solution for the couples on what use to be only a couples night by spending out and building a couples room only. To please all customers involved within the decision that was made. |
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Very pleased about the change as means it gives us more options to attend on a Saturday night rather than a Friday as our preference is nights with single men as we feel the vibe is much better than a couples night. This goes for all clubs we have been to not just this one.
As for the Couples room looks good we popped in there on Friday. |
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By *aciamiCouple 6 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
Most clubs do tend to have a couples room, have to say was impressed with VA’s couple room so we think it’s a welcomed addition. Single guys do bring in the a lot of the income I guess so at least us couples will have a choice, either retreat to the couples room or don’t. |
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"Most clubs do tend to have a couples room, have to say was impressed with VA’s couple room so we think it’s a welcomed addition. Single guys do bring in the a lot of the income I guess so at least us couples will have a choice, either retreat to the couples room or don’t. "
Yes the couples only area at VA is excellent. It is worth pointing out that though that the majority of their Saturday parties are couples and single women only, and are well attended. |
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By *irky69Man 6 weeks ago
Milton keynes |
I was there Sunday and thought it was a negative thing, just that it made other areas seem very empty. I normally can spend 4 or 5 hours there but was gone in under 3.
I couldn’t work it out at first where people were disappearing to! |
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"I wonder if this has come about because the club has started allowing single gents most Saturday nights recently, which I know a lot of couples won't be too pleased about?"
So no more Couples/Single ladies only on a Saturday night? Wow didn't think this club could get any worse but they surely are trying. Potential to be one of the best clubs but needs a total management clear out. Thought the council was trying shut this place down |
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"I’m all for the couples room, as it now means I can have a wank in peace without couples seemingly coming out of nowhere and constantly trying to sit right on top of me.  "
Yeah, sorry about that, I really must have a word with blonde and stop her 'wapping' her tits in your face without asking first... 😉🤣 |
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"I wonder if this has come about because the club has started allowing single gents most Saturday nights recently, which I know a lot of couples won't be too pleased about?
So no more Couples/Single ladies only on a Saturday night? Wow didn't think this club could get any worse but they surely are trying. Potential to be one of the best clubs but needs a total management clear out. Thought the council was trying shut this place down "
There will be one Saturday a month for Couples and Single ladies only.
Not sure where you got the idea that the council were trying to shut the place down. Unless you’re referring to the ‘old venue’? |
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"I was there Sunday and thought it was a negative thing, just that it made other areas seem very empty. I normally can spend 4 or 5 hours there but was gone in under 3.
I couldn’t work it out at first where people were disappearing to! "
That's a prime example then & why the couples only room was greatly needed - we were there on Sunday got in at 1ish & left by 3 rather than stay on late! not every couple want to play with single guys, be followed around or leered at, not all guys dispite being told the club etiquette actually adhere to it & this can ruin a couples experience, perhaps the more experienced guys should police those that often ruin it for others especially newbies & first timers there, now there's a choice for us, as a couple we often play with single guys but even we have left early due to constantly being followed - it's a shame there's only going to be one Saturday a month for couples & single girls & I hope that won't have an adverse effect to what is otherwise a great club with excellent facilities & value for money
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By *aciamiCouple 6 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"I’m all for the couples room, as it now means I can have a wank in peace without couples seemingly coming out of nowhere and constantly trying to sit right on top of me. "
And offering you a twix whilst there?! |
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Really interesting reading the comments here. I am a very experienced single guy and definitely one who knows how to conduct himself.
I totally get it that there a lot of single guys that do not..I actually have policed such in both vanilla and play situations, reinforcing to them the expected etiquette.
However there is a pervasive attitude from a lot of couples that single guys are either some sort of cash cow for a venue or not worthy of breathing the same air they do.
Trust me, as a genuine experienced single guy, that is as equally off putting to me as I'm sure couples find being trailed by guys that they feel are pestering them is...which absolutely of course should never be the case.
I recently had a short conversation with a couple on a night at the club...short because the first words from their mouth was "we dont play with single guys" to which I replied "well there is quite an assumption becasuse Im not looking to play with you!"
This club is run brilliantly so I'd suggest to anyone feeling pestered on a night there to tell the team and they will sort it out.
Besides the new couples area this club already provided a number of private lockable rooms and this new area is a further addition to those, which as a previous comment here mentioned, is the result of a survey the club did of its members.
So to sum up...the single guys who behave like idiots piss off...you give us good ones a bad name, to the couples who enjoy the company of decent single guys and view such with a modicum of respect thank you and to the couples that have the kind of attitude towards single guys as some have exhibited above and I have unfortunately experienced myself...give your heads a wobble!!!
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"I’m all for the couples room, as it now means I can have a wank in peace without couples seemingly coming out of nowhere and constantly trying to sit right on top of me.
Yeah, sorry about that, I really must have a word with blonde and stop her 'wapping' her tits in your face without asking first... 😉🤣"
If you could please. It’s so off putting! 😉😂 |
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"I’m all for the couples room, as it now means I can have a wank in peace without couples seemingly coming out of nowhere and constantly trying to sit right on top of me.
And offering you a twix whilst there?! "
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"Really interesting reading the comments here. I am a very experienced single guy and definitely one who knows how to conduct himself.
I totally get it that there a lot of single guys that do not..I actually have policed such in both vanilla and play situations, reinforcing to them the expected etiquette.
However there is a pervasive attitude from a lot of couples that single guys are either some sort of cash cow for a venue or not worthy of breathing the same air they do.
Trust me, as a genuine experienced single guy, that is as equally off putting to me as I'm sure couples find being trailed by guys that they feel are pestering them is...which absolutely of course should never be the case.
I recently had a short conversation with a couple on a night at the club...short because the first words from their mouth was "we dont play with single guys" to which I replied "well there is quite an assumption becasuse Im not looking to play with you!"
This club is run brilliantly so I'd suggest to anyone feeling pestered on a night there to tell the team and they will sort it out.
Besides the new couples area this club already provided a number of private lockable rooms and this new area is a further addition to those, which as a previous comment here mentioned, is the result of a survey the club did of its members.
So to sum up...the single guys who behave like idiots piss off...you give us good ones a bad name, to the couples who enjoy the company of decent single guys and view such with a modicum of respect thank you and to the couples that have the kind of attitude towards single guys as some have exhibited above and I have unfortunately experienced myself...give your heads a wobble!!!
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You recognise in your contribution that some single men “do not know how to conduct themselves”. This is not going to change and for some couples this will remain a constant source of irritation. I suggest that the couple who told you “we don’t play with single men” were fed up with being approached, touched or worse.
The survey of members will surely have been distorted by the responses of single men who
probably account for 50% of the membership. Hard to believe they would have wanted couples nights to continue! Obviously some couples do want the attention of single men.
We don’t mind some contact with single men and on Kestrels days we’re happy to socialise etc. However it is a different vibe.
We will give the Saturday nights a try, but it probably means that on a free Saturday night that Abfabs will not always be our first choice any longer unfortunately.
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"Really interesting reading the comments here. I am a very experienced single guy and definitely one who knows how to conduct himself.
I totally get it that there a lot of single guys that do not..I actually have policed such in both vanilla and play situations, reinforcing to them the expected etiquette.
However there is a pervasive attitude from a lot of couples that single guys are either some sort of cash cow for a venue or not worthy of breathing the same air they do.
Trust me, as a genuine experienced single guy, that is as equally off putting to me as I'm sure couples find being trailed by guys that they feel are pestering them is...which absolutely of course should never be the case.
I recently had a short conversation with a couple on a night at the club...short because the first words from their mouth was "we dont play with single guys" to which I replied "well there is quite an assumption becasuse Im not looking to play with you!"
This club is run brilliantly so I'd suggest to anyone feeling pestered on a night there to tell the team and they will sort it out.
Besides the new couples area this club already provided a number of private lockable rooms and this new area is a further addition to those, which as a previous comment here mentioned, is the result of a survey the club did of its members.
So to sum up...the single guys who behave like idiots piss off...you give us good ones a bad name, to the couples who enjoy the company of decent single guys and view such with a modicum of respect thank you and to the couples that have the kind of attitude towards single guys as some have exhibited above and I have unfortunately experienced myself...give your heads a wobble!!!
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Great post & well put by looking at it from both sides, unfortunately the thread seems to have gone off track slightly & turned into a singles bashing thread rather than a positive thread for the couples room lol - I would like to make one point though & that is when we very first came into this lifestyle, it was called wife swapping & clubs were far and in-between tbh I can only really remember one in the whole of the UK at Radlett- we never saw single guys or woman as you needed a partner to be in the scene to swap! Times & dynamics change & now theres many more clubs as well as singles using them as an extension to Tinder & plenty of fish- & yes while there's quite a few couples out there that do want to play with single guys, there's just as many who don't, hence the need for a couples only room,there did use to be a room overlooking the pool that were for couples only to chill & chat in, which unfortunately was closed due to being abused but was ideal to be able to get away from single guys that think as they've paid more to come in, then they can act in a disrespectful way towards couples |
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I went to a paid event where it was very much a couples seeking couples vibe, several were quite rude to me literally pointing to the nearest single guy and saying "go play"...
It's not just single guys that can act badly within the lifestyle.
Sidenote this was my first paid event but I've not let it put me off, trying again next month. |
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I think with the way hospitality is going (and these clubs do fall under that), you're going to see more clubs opening up to singles on the majority of nights.
The introduction of the Couples and Single Only Ladies room is a space for them to go and play/decompress.
Always let staff know if there are troublesome single gents. All clubs get them, not just this on in particular. They do get dealt with and either spoken to or asked to leave. |
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That's why we only go to quality clubs on Couples/Ladies only nights. We are out to have fun not have to deal with morons in clubs
(not all single gents) but just don't need this. Go to quite a few different clubs and haven't heard this from any of the owners we know opening up to single gents on both nights.
Their Couples/Ladies only nights are very well supported. It may only be clubs struggling to get people through their door that are desperate enough to open up to single gents all the time. |
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By *etro1940sCouple 6 weeks ago
Kingston upon Thames |
"Really interesting reading the comments here. I am a very experienced single guy and definitely one who knows how to conduct himself.
I totally get it that there a lot of single guys that do not..I actually have policed such in both vanilla and play situations, reinforcing to them the expected etiquette.
However there is a pervasive attitude from a lot of couples that single guys are either some sort of cash cow for a venue or not worthy of breathing the same air they do.
Trust me, as a genuine experienced single guy, that is as equally off putting to me as I'm sure couples find being trailed by guys that they feel are pestering them is...which absolutely of course should never be the case.
I recently had a short conversation with a couple on a night at the club...short because the first words from their mouth was "we dont play with single guys" to which I replied "well there is quite an assumption becasuse Im not looking to play with you!"
This club is run brilliantly so I'd suggest to anyone feeling pestered on a night there to tell the team and they will sort it out.
Besides the new couples area this club already provided a number of private lockable rooms and this new area is a further addition to those, which as a previous comment here mentioned, is the result of a survey the club did of its members.
So to sum up...the single guys who behave like idiots piss off...you give us good ones a bad name, to the couples who enjoy the company of decent single guys and view such with a modicum of respect thank you and to the couples that have the kind of attitude towards single guys as some have exhibited above and I have unfortunately experienced myself...give your heads a wobble!!!
Great post & well put by looking at it from both sides, unfortunately the thread seems to have gone off track slightly & turned into a singles bashing thread rather than a positive thread for the couples room lol - I would like to make one point though & that is when we very first came into this lifestyle, it was called wife swapping & clubs were far and in-between tbh I can only really remember one in the whole of the UK at Radlett- we never saw single guys or woman as you needed a partner to be in the scene to swap! Times & dynamics change & now theres many more clubs as well as singles using them as an extension to Tinder & plenty of fish- & yes while there's quite a few couples out there that do want to play with single guys, there's just as many who don't, hence the need for a couples only room,there did use to be a room overlooking the pool that were for couples only to chill & chat in, which unfortunately was closed due to being abused but was ideal to be able to get away from single guys that think as they've paid more to come in, then they can act in a disrespectful way towards couples "
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"That's why we only go to quality clubs on Couples/Ladies only nights. We are out to have fun not have to deal with morons in clubs
(not all single gents) but just don't need this. Go to quite a few different clubs and haven't heard this from any of the owners we know opening up to single gents on both nights.
Their Couples/Ladies only nights are very well supported. It may only be clubs struggling to get people through their door that are desperate enough to open up to single gents all the time. "
Think you will find a lot more clubs have their Saturdays open to single gents if u had done some research, penthouse playrooms and hellfire to name a couple locally that have single guys on certain Saturdays of the month.
You will get “moron” single men just like you get “moron” husbands which tbh we have seen more trouble on a couples night than a singles!
For a fact I know a lot of couples which like single men but work on Saturdays so struggle to attend the Friday nights. This opens up more of an opportunity for those too. Plus u get a nice lazy day on Sunday after!
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There are plenty of couples that are morons too...I've met them and heard plenty of couples moaning about other couples too. The whole perspective of your post is part of the problem, not the solution. I wish you continued enjoyment of the "quality" clubs you enjoy. |
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Shame they have caved and allowed single guys in on a Saturday as was nice to go along and not be followed by the wanking dead, and was a much nicer environment to relax in.
Will just have to time the visits to the couples and single ladies weeks only in that case.
Great news about the couples room mind - that could be a lot of fun watching and playing! |
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"Shame they have caved and allowed single guys in on a Saturday as was nice to go along and not be followed by the wanking dead, and was a much nicer environment to relax in.
Will just have to time the visits to the couples and single ladies weeks only in that case.
Great news about the couples room mind - that could be a lot of fun watching and playing!"
Interesting post from a self confessed single man |
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By *ty31Man 6 weeks ago
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"I wonder if this has come about because the club has started allowing single gents most Saturday nights recently, which I know a lot of couples won't be too pleased about?"
And other couples will be. I do agree that it may change the dynamic a little but the problem isn't allowing single guys in it's how things are managed and the quality of the guys allowed entry. There's plenty of clubs who admit single guys on Saturdays very successfully.
Also for any couples troubled by the thought of sharing their space with single guys, look on the bright side- an increase in single guys means an increase in single women.
As someone already said, times are tough for the hospitality business and if it's not being financially viable to restrict entry on certain nights it's inevitable that something has to change (either thru price rises or opening up the nights). |
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There is a simple way to avoid such a tiny issue - just give wrist bands with different colour showing if you interested in playing with single guys or not. In US this is a norm, all couples are offered a choice. Even singles males are offered a wrist bands too showing that they are single and not attending as a couple, win win for everyone |
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"Was hoping to attend in the future, but on a couples night, single men on here puts Mrs off let alone them in a club on a couples night"
Taking “looking for men” off your profile might help to alleviate the torture… |
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"It is past the darkroom and the private rooms. Has a bed and two sofas. Think it could be very popular. "
is it an open door policy where any couple can enter? or do they get locked to stop entry? |
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"It is past the darkroom and the private rooms. Has a bed and two sofas. Think it could be very popular.
is it an open door policy where any couple can enter? or do they get locked to stop entry?"
It’s not locked and does not have a lock. |
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"It is past the darkroom and the private rooms. Has a bed and two sofas. Think it could be very popular.
is it an open door policy where any couple can enter? or do they get locked to stop entry?
It’s not locked and does not have a lock. "
Has it see through windows too ? |
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"It is past the darkroom and the private rooms. Has a bed and two sofas. Think it could be very popular.
is it an open door policy where any couple can enter? or do they get locked to stop entry?
It’s not locked and does not have a lock.
Has it see through windows too ?"
No, no windows at all. |
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"We've only been once so excuse us for the silly question for not understanding, is the new couple room next to the bar, Like the room behind it? "
No it's at the bottom of the corridor past the dark room and where the glory holes used to be |
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Interesting post from a self confessed single man
Single profile, but like many have a partner I go with and have a membership with.
Simple really isn't it."
It would have been if you’d even hinted at that in your profile. |
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Interesting post from a self confessed single man
Single profile, but like many have a partner I go with and have a membership with.
Simple really isn't it.
It would have been if you’d even hinted at that in your profile. "
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We used to love the old Abfabs & want to try the new one again - the thing that puts us off is the first time cost for a couple as a couple you both have to purchase a membership for £25 each, plus the cost of the entry so it ends up about £100 to try the club or spa. We think this puts a lot of couples (like us) off visiting for the first time. If they offered 1 free entry when you take out a membership (either day or night) we think a lot more couples would give it a try & once they are members they would hopefully keep coming back |
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"Was hoping to attend in the future, but on a couples night, single men on here puts Mrs off let alone them in a club on a couples night
Taking “looking for men” off your profile might help to alleviate the torture…"
That made me chuckle |
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"We used to love the old Abfabs & want to try the new one again - the thing that puts us off is the first time cost for a couple as a couple you both have to purchase a membership for £25 each, plus the cost of the entry so it ends up about £100 to try the club or spa. We think this puts a lot of couples (like us) off visiting for the first time. If they offered 1 free entry when you take out a membership (either day or night) we think a lot more couples would give it a try & once they are members they would hopefully keep coming back "
There is a social being held before the club tomorrow night from 7pm-8.30pm but u can stay in the club for the evening, it’s just £25 for a couple and gives u a free 6month membership for the social nights which is the third Friday of the month and is on the London forum to put names down for the link to book on and more info!
It’s a good opportunity to see the club and spa and if u like it you can purchase the full membership on ur next visit if it’s a different day/night. Always a great welcoming crowd
And a good night!
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"We used to love the old Abfabs & want to try the new one again - the thing that puts us off is the first time cost for a couple as a couple you both have to purchase a membership for £25 each, plus the cost of the entry so it ends up about £100 to try the club or spa. We think this puts a lot of couples (like us) off visiting for the first time. If they offered 1 free entry when you take out a membership (either day or night) we think a lot more couples would give it a try & once they are members they would hopefully keep coming back
There is a social being held before the club tomorrow night from 7pm-8.30pm but u can stay in the club for the evening, it’s just £25 for a couple and gives u a free 6month membership for the social nights which is the third Friday of the month and is on the London forum to put names down for the link to book on and more info!
It’s a good opportunity to see the club and spa and if u like it you can purchase the full membership on ur next visit if it’s a different day/night. Always a great welcoming crowd
And a good night!
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Thank you, we are mostly interested in day time visits when we can arrange a day off work x |
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"Are the glory holes gone completely or relocated?
They're still there. Have been reduced for the moment - but we are looking at ways to add more!
I've got an idea for that "
Is it a good one? Share it with the group.
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"Are the glory holes gone completely or relocated?
They're still there. Have been reduced for the moment - but we are looking at ways to add more!
I've got an idea for that "
Be interested to hear and see if the plans along the same lines! |
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By *eper61Couple 6 weeks ago
Berks/Hamps/surrey |
We were there yesterday. its 'labelled' as a couples and single females only' room, so yes, you can. We didnt use the room but did have a look. It has one large bed at one end and two leather couches at the other. The door is not lockable and there are no windows. The old 'glory holes' area has been reduced in size to just 2 (or was it 3) holes. |
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By *eper61Couple 6 weeks ago
Berks/Hamps/surrey |
"How many couples can it fit in at any one time "
I'd say 3 comfortably (so 6 people) but more if you like it 'cosy'. There are also two (or was it three) leather couches at the opposite end to watch/play and plenty of standing room. I didnt notice a lock on the door so they are relying on single men to observe the rule. Not that you'd want a lock on the door. There is no window either. |
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"How many couples can it fit in at any one time
I'd say 3 comfortably (so 6 people) but more if you like it 'cosy'. There are also two (or was it three) leather couches at the opposite end to watch/play and plenty of standing room. I didnt notice a lock on the door so they are relying on single men to observe the rule. Not that you'd want a lock on the door. There is no window either."
It's meant to be a sanctuary for couples and single ladies at any time. Putting a lock on the door restricts any couples and single ladies who may need to decompress and retreat for a moment or two. |
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By *oybCouple 6 weeks ago
West Sussex |
The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ... |
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By *eper61Couple 6 weeks ago
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"How many couples can it fit in at any one time
I'd say 3 comfortably (so 6 people) but more if you like it 'cosy'. There are also two (or was it three) leather couches at the opposite end to watch/play and plenty of standing room. I didnt notice a lock on the door so they are relying on single men to observe the rule. Not that you'd want a lock on the door. There is no window either.
It's meant to be a sanctuary for couples and single ladies at any time. Putting a lock on the door restricts any couples and single ladies who may need to decompress and retreat for a moment or two. "
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"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ..."
100 % Agree.
I’m in favour of single men only room strictly no couples allowed |
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"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ...
100 % Agree.
I’m in favour of single men only room strictly no couples allowed "
Sounds like most clubs on an average night |
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"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ...
100 % Agree.
I’m in favour of single men only room strictly no couples allowed "
Isn't that the dark room? Never seen a woman come out of there yet! |
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By *likat50Woman 6 weeks ago
london /bracklesham bay |
"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ...
100 % Agree.
I’m in favour of single men only room strictly no couples allowed
Isn't that the dark room? Never seen a woman come out of there yet!"
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"Are the glory holes gone completely or relocated?
They're still there. Have been reduced for the moment - but we are looking at ways to add more!
I've got an idea for that
Be interested to hear and see if the plans along the same lines! "
An easy & cheap use of the existing floor plan in an otherwise unused area- simply use the old corridor from the bar end down to near the cinema, build a single stud wall down the centre of the coridor- gents access by the existing door by the pool table - veri from glory holes to grope holes & allow the ladies to enter from a new door at the opposite end of the corridor by the cinema room & use a green light, switched & operated @ the female end to show the guys there's someone behind the wall |
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"Really interesting reading the comments here. I am a very experienced single guy and definitely one who knows how to conduct himself.
I totally get it that there a lot of single guys that do not..I actually have policed such in both vanilla and play situations, reinforcing to them the expected etiquette.
However there is a pervasive attitude from a lot of couples that single guys are either some sort of cash cow for a venue or not worthy of breathing the same air they do.
Trust me, as a genuine experienced single guy, that is as equally off putting to me as I'm sure couples find being trailed by guys that they feel are pestering them is...which absolutely of course should never be the case.
I recently had a short conversation with a couple on a night at the club...short because the first words from their mouth was "we dont play with single guys" to which I replied "well there is quite an assumption becasuse Im not looking to play with you!"
This club is run brilliantly so I'd suggest to anyone feeling pestered on a night there to tell the team and they will sort it out.
Besides the new couples area this club already provided a number of private lockable rooms and this new area is a further addition to those, which as a previous comment here mentioned, is the result of a survey the club did of its members.
So to sum up...the single guys who behave like idiots piss off...you give us good ones a bad name, to the couples who enjoy the company of decent single guys and view such with a modicum of respect thank you and to the couples that have the kind of attitude towards single guys as some have exhibited above and I have unfortunately experienced myself...give your heads a wobble!!!
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"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ..."
Very true and well said. This seems to be common in a few clubs. |
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"Are the glory holes gone completely or relocated?
They're still there. Have been reduced for the moment - but we are looking at ways to add more!
I've got an idea for that
Be interested to hear and see if the plans along the same lines!
An easy & cheap use of the existing floor plan in an otherwise unused area- simply use the old corridor from the bar end down to near the cinema, build a single stud wall down the centre of the coridor- gents access by the existing door by the pool table - veri from glory holes to grope holes & allow the ladies to enter from a new door at the opposite end of the corridor by the cinema room & use a green light, switched & operated @ the female end to show the guys there's someone behind the wall "
That's a great idea and exactly what myself and a lady friend said on Friday evening.
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By *R01Couple 5 weeks ago
St Albans |
We had a good visit and found the couples/single ladies room. It's a good idea but does get full as it's a small area, only a few couples can play within. We enjoyed ourselves overall though.
A small minority of single guys (not all single guys as that's not fair to say!) were very awkward we found, and definitely ruin some of the experience unfortunately, don't seem to get the message when clearly not interested, but persist to follow you around (weird). If you are one of those guys, it's not cool, to be honest it's quite pathetic. Luckily we have the experience to deal with but can understand it putting people off visiting.
Think we'll plan our future visits on couple events or during the week spa days, this will limit (some) of the encounter with those awkward individuals.
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"We had a good visit and found the couples/single ladies room. It's a good idea but does get full as it's a small area, only a few couples can play within. We enjoyed ourselves overall though.
A small minority of single guys (not all single guys as that's not fair to say!) were very awkward we found, and definitely ruin some of the experience unfortunately, don't seem to get the message when clearly not interested, but persist to follow you around (weird). If you are one of those guys, it's not cool, to be honest it's quite pathetic. Luckily we have the experience to deal with but can understand it putting people off visiting.
Think we'll plan our future visits on couple events or during the week spa days, this will limit (some) of the encounter with those awkward individuals.
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Are you referring to the wanking dead by any chance? |
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By *R01Couple 5 weeks ago
St Albans |
"We had a good visit and found the couples/single ladies room. It's a good idea but does get full as it's a small area, only a few couples can play within. We enjoyed ourselves overall though.
A small minority of single guys (not all single guys as that's not fair to say!) were very awkward we found, and definitely ruin some of the experience unfortunately, don't seem to get the message when clearly not interested, but persist to follow you around (weird). If you are one of those guys, it's not cool, to be honest it's quite pathetic. Luckily we have the experience to deal with but can understand it putting people off visiting.
Think we'll plan our future visits on couple events or during the week spa days, this will limit (some) of the encounter with those awkward individuals.
Are you referring to the wanking dead by any chance? "
Sounds about right, not sure which is worse to be honest and now we won't be able to watch TWD without thinking of the wanking dead  |
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Swingers club or sec club rely on single men’s money - they have to invite them to make the business profitable, that’s the reason you have only one night for couples and single female. If you are ask clubs to vet all the single males - it’s impossible task for them, if you deny accesss you lose money. I said earlier as well - start giving the wrist band based on what you are interested in that evening. If couples don’t want single males to follow them they should wear a colour of band that says no to single men - it’s super easy. Most of the club in US follow it and this keeps the annoyance at the bay..don’t know why clubs in UK don’t follow such stuff |
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By *R01Couple 5 weeks ago
St Albans |
To be honest we're not sure wearing bands will work as we were very clear that we had no interest (respectfully) in single men but that didn't stop the following.
If even reported, this would be difficult to police.
We understand it is hard for the clubs.
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"Swingers club or sec club rely on single men’s money - they have to invite them to make the business profitable, that’s the reason you have only one night for couples and single female. If you are ask clubs to vet all the single males - it’s impossible task for them, if you deny accesss you lose money. I said earlier as well - start giving the wrist band based on what you are interested in that evening. If couples don’t want single males to follow them they should wear a colour of band that says no to single men - it’s super easy. Most of the club in US follow it and this keeps the annoyance at the bay..don’t know why clubs in UK don’t follow such stuff"
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"Swingers club or sec club rely on single men’s money - they have to invite them to make the business profitable, that’s the reason you have only one night for couples and single female. If you are ask clubs to vet all the single males - it’s impossible task for them, if you deny accesss you lose money. I said earlier as well - start giving the wrist band based on what you are interested in that evening. If couples don’t want single males to follow them they should wear a colour of band that says no to single men - it’s super easy. Most of the club in US follow it and this keeps the annoyance at the bay..don’t know why clubs in UK don’t follow such stuff
How about if couples want single guy attention, they should wear bands?"
Yup - all based on the band’s colour. So that you get what you are looking for rather than unnecessary attention..here we call it GB there, they call it DTF nights - even for those who wants that, there is a wrist band for it too…couples can have more than one on their hand… |
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Somehow we completely missed this Friday, we wandered into the cabin area as we knew work had been done. Couldn’t see anything (after a very quick look) and came out thinking it didn’t look like much had been done ha ha.
Sounds like a great idea though, hopefully get to use this in future, love the idea of the couch. |
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"Somehow we completely missed this Friday, we wandered into the cabin area as we knew work had been done. Couldn’t see anything (after a very quick look) and came out thinking it didn’t look like much had been done ha ha.
Sounds like a great idea though, hopefully get to use this in future, love the idea of the couch."
You missed the lit up sign next to the door?? |
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"To be honest we're not sure wearing bands will work as we were very clear that we had no interest (respectfully) in single men but that didn't stop the following.
If even reported, this would be difficult to police.
We understand it is hard for the clubs.
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I have complete sympathy for anyone who has experienced unwanted attention sometimes despite making clear thier feelings and anything which can reduce/eliminate this has to be worthy of consideration.
Personaly I have only once attended an event where bands were worn so I’m no expert (it did seem to be a big help that night for the record). However I’m pretty sure it would work with very many single guys. In theses situations It’s very difficult to know who would welcome the attention (always with permission) or maybe just enjoy being watched, or are happy to chat and distinguish those from couples and single fems who would have their night ruined by such attention.Who really wants to disturb anyone who you are certain isn’t interested in you, being despised isn’t much of a turn on?
If its already tried, tested and doesn’t work, fair enough, otherwise trying it out on some nights could be interesting.
As for policing wouldnt it be easier for other people to identify and report or educate non compliance if it was clear that the people in question did not want to be approached?
Personally (tounge in cheek) I’d welcome a qr code link to a full list of personal do’s and don’ts, I mean who wants to feel like a sex offender.
As a single guy who often attends on my own I would welcome this although I recognise that I’m not who we are aiming to help. What is the experience of those who have used US clubs? |
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By *R01Couple 5 weeks ago
St Albans |
Think the bands would cause further issues then it's worth, and hassle for the sake of a small minority of pathetic individuals. It's just embarrassing, really sad actually, sort of feel sorry for them but not really.
Perhaps the other negative of using colored bands, a new couple might want to dip the toes in and be open for conversation, and see how it goes. If they go for the colour open for single attention, Jesus - they would be swamped within minutes and be put right off I'll imagine.
Maybe the current bands (holding the locker key) should have a clear number printed on it, and be reported against so it can be tracked and serial offenders dealt with.
Probably goes back to the easiest method, if you don't enjoy or like it, tough, don't attend |
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My partner and i Met a lovely couple last thursday and they invited us into the couples/ single ladies room. It is a lovely sanctuary and we had alot of fun away from prying single guys wanking over us. There is no lock but we had no guys wandering in. We were joined by another couple where we played and it got into a very messy legs everywhere beautiful sexual moment. The bed did get very wet as well as the people on there by my partners propensity to squirt quite a river. We enjoyed it in there considerably and is a very exciting addition. |
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By *aciamiCouple 5 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"My partner and i Met a lovely couple last thursday and they invited us into the couples/ single ladies room. It is a lovely sanctuary and we had alot of fun away from prying single guys wanking over us. There is no lock but we had no guys wandering in. We were joined by another couple where we played and it got into a very messy legs everywhere beautiful sexual moment. The bed did get very wet as well as the people on there by my partners propensity to squirt quite a river. We enjoyed it in there considerably and is a very exciting addition. "
It’s actually a really cozy area, warm and subdued lighting., a great place to chill etc. We enjoyed it last night, not sure I’d feel the same way if it was a squirting mess! |
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"My partner and i Met a lovely couple last thursday and they invited us into the couples/ single ladies room. It is a lovely sanctuary and we had alot of fun away from prying single guys wanking over us. There is no lock but we had no guys wandering in. We were joined by another couple where we played and it got into a very messy legs everywhere beautiful sexual moment. The bed did get very wet as well as the people on there by my partners propensity to squirt quite a river. We enjoyed it in there considerably and is a very exciting addition.
It’s actually a really cozy area, warm and subdued lighting., a great place to chill etc. We enjoyed it last night, not sure I’d feel the same way if it was a squirting mess! "
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"Can we get a single guys room please too?....with an Xbox, table football and Sky Sports, a couple of Lazyboy chairs and a selection of snacks. Thank you in advance.
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Yeah, maybe we can all line up Usual Suspects style when a buzzer goes off and get picked by a single lady or couple from behind one way mirror so we can enter the actual club facilities. When they finish with us we go back in the single men room. Sounds great. |
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"Can we get a single guys room please too?....with an Xbox, table football and Sky Sports, a couple of Lazyboy chairs and a selection of snacks. Thank you in advance.
Yeah, maybe we can all line up Usual Suspects style when a buzzer goes off and get picked by a single lady or couple from behind one way mirror so we can enter the actual club facilities. When they finish with us we go back in the single men room. Sounds great."
Lol. Might be an idea, though I thought cinema room was for that? Lol. |
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"Can we get a single guys room please too?....with an Xbox, table football and Sky Sports, a couple of Lazyboy chairs and a selection of snacks. Thank you in advance.
Yeah, maybe we can all line up Usual Suspects style when a buzzer goes off and get picked by a single lady or couple from behind one way mirror so we can enter the actual club facilities. When they finish with us we go back in the single men room. Sounds great."
Sounds fun, as long as there are things to play with in the room, other blokes to chat to, plus decent porn. Not getting picked is the only potential downside but hey what’s different from most club nights! |
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By *zarelMan 2 weeks ago
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I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. |
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"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
What do you suggest they provide for singles? |
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"Can we get a single guys room please too?....with an Xbox, table football and Sky Sports, a couple of Lazyboy chairs and a selection of snacks. Thank you in advance.
Yeah, maybe we can all line up Usual Suspects style when a buzzer goes off and get picked by a single lady or couple from behind one way mirror so we can enter the actual club facilities. When they finish with us we go back in the single men room. Sounds great.
Sounds fun, as long as there are things to play with in the room, other blokes to chat to, plus decent porn. Not getting picked is the only potential downside but hey what’s different from most club nights!"
Hopefully we’ll be allowed to send our wives in if we wanted. Just to seee what comes up of course. |
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By *etro1940sCouple 2 weeks ago
Kingston upon Thames |
"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
WE would agree that single men are essential to any swinger / libertine club - they are the financial loadstar, they provide ladies with plentiful playmates and consideration is needed to get the balance right. We have never found single men bothersome - we are candid and string enough to say "thanks but no thanks" or "I want those three guys not you" ... xx Anne & George
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"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
I'm sorry, are you trying to say the club should provide "entertainment" for single guys??? Anything beyond the facilities and rubbish porn being played in the cinema or around the club? Please remember it is NOT a sex club, it's a swingers club. And everyone going there are doing so on their own accord, without being paid for it.
I am sure there are plenty of clubs (not in UK, but around the world) that are couples only and still thriving. I guess UK clubs (at least some) found single men to be very convenient "cash cows", some willing to pay any money for the possibility of sex.
I am not bashing the single guys, I don't mind them in a club as long as they keep their hands (and feet, in the hot tub) to themselves or ask first before touching. I also do enjoy playing with an extra guy or two, but they need to approach me and my partner/my FWB when we're socialising, not in the middle of play. And (how dare I saying this, some would probably think!), the guys wanting to play with me need to treat me like a person, not just a collection of holes to fuck. So "are you playing?" is not going to cut it with me as the very first line that comes out of their mouths. |
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By *aciamiCouple 2 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
We’ll have to say the club was busy last night and that was with no single guys allowed in.
More attractions?! It’s not a theme park!
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By *eper61Couple 2 weeks ago
Berks/Hamps/surrey |
"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles.
I'm sorry, are you trying to say the club should provide "entertainment" for single guys??? Anything beyond the facilities and rubbish porn being played in the cinema or around the club? Please remember it is NOT a sex club, it's a swingers club. And everyone going there are doing so on their own accord, without being paid for it.
I am sure there are plenty of clubs (not in UK, but around the world) that are couples only and still thriving. I guess UK clubs (at least some) found single men to be very convenient "cash cows", some willing to pay any money for the possibility of sex.
I am not bashing the single guys, I don't mind them in a club as long as they keep their hands (and feet, in the hot tub) to themselves or ask first before touching. I also do enjoy playing with an extra guy or two, but they need to approach me and my partner/my FWB when we're socialising, not in the middle of play. And (how dare I saying this, some would probably think!), the guys wanting to play with me need to treat me like a person, not just a collection of holes to fuck. So "are you playing?" is not going to cut it with me as the very first line that comes out of their mouths. "
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"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
More attractions for singles? Please expand on this. |
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By *aciamiCouple 2 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
Would a Christmas theme work?
You could put your locker key on your wrist and make a Christmassy sounding jingle jangle sound to give that added level of amusement. |
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"The amount of times we went to a couples night and had to deal with pushy "husbands" ... Whether single men are allowed or not, it should all be common sense really, no discrimination.
If anyone bothers anyone, it's easy enough to get them reported and kicked out - we think everyone should be allowed at all times as there are some wonderful single men out there who are respectful, experienced and know how to play the game.
Controversial, I know! But wow, aren't we all responsible adults? Some male halves of "couples" are a lot worse than the single men really ...
100 % Agree.
I’m in favour of single men only room strictly no couples allowed
Sounds like most clubs on an average night "
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"I believe that the couples room only will kill kestrels in the long term. Single guys keep the place running, the majority of paying customers. The house should provide more attractions for singles. "
What a delusional attitude & the type that puts you into the realms of the wanking dead rather than the respectful & successful single guys that do attend- you're better off sticking to Tinder & POF, while it's true you pay more & are treated a bit like a cash cow, you need to remember the reason you attend in the first place, & it's not in the hope of meeting one of the rarely attending single females in the attempt to find your happy ever after romance, but more in the hope of playing with the female half of an established & experienced couple who invite you to do so. For many years the scene was known as wife swapping, to which you needed a wife to swap with & very rarely saw a single guy - the fact you believe the club should provide more for singles is laughable as they already provide you with all the means & rooms necessary to be successful- you need to understand the fact that not every couple attending wishes to be the centre of attraction for a group of single guys groping & masterbating over them, no more so that every single woman who attends is purely looking for cock! & it may have slipped your mind paying to enter a club gives you no more right to expect play then it does for us as a couple, we applaud the addition of the couples room & think it would be even more successful if made bigger like other clubs have done- ultimately it's a couples choice where,when & who they wish to invite to play with, not your right to either expect it or assume it |
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"Can we get a single guys room please too?....with an Xbox, table football and Sky Sports, a couple of Lazyboy chairs and a selection of snacks. Thank you in advance.
Yeah, maybe we can all line up Usual Suspects style when a buzzer goes off and get picked by a single lady or couple from behind one way mirror so we can enter the actual club facilities. When they finish with us we go back in the single men room. Sounds great.
Sounds fun, as long as there are things to play with in the room, other blokes to chat to, plus decent porn. Not getting picked is the only potential downside but hey what’s different from most club nights!
Hopefully we’ll be allowed to send our wives in if we wanted. Just to seee what comes up of course. "
Send wives into the single blokes room? How very dare you. Next you will have them following guys round the club flashing their lady bits like the stalking dead. Just be nice to have a place for guys to avoid the rude and unfriendly couples barging in tits first. |
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Don’t care about couples rooms or single rooms tbh. As long as clubs provides nice buffet on party nights I’m happy with that lol
Haven’t been to clubs in a long time. Do they still provide food? I remember old abfabs, VA and Liberty used to on party nights. |
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Interesting debate, but we've been here before....the 'old' Kestrels had a couples only room down in the old stable block ... which later became the dark room.
So the main difference is men on Saturdays. If it were my business i'd experiment with the price ... probably try sliding it upwards for single males on Saturdays to get the maximum income with the smallest number of males .... i think couples should still be prioritised on Saturdays if the club can manage it. It would be silly not to still attract as many couples as possible! |
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They out price couples with the membership costs loads more couples would love to try the club either in the evening or during the day BUT to try the club its about £100, this puts loads of couples off trying it. We are sure if more couples could give the club a try they would love the place & come back. Its simple to resolve - offer couples one free entry (either day or night) when they purchase their membership. That way couples can try for £50 then hopefully come back over & over again. |
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"They out price couples with the membership costs loads more couples would love to try the club either in the evening or during the day BUT to try the club its about £100, this puts loads of couples off trying it. We are sure if more couples could give the club a try they would love the place & come back. Its simple to resolve - offer couples one free entry (either day or night) when they purchase their membership. That way couples can try for £50 then hopefully come back over & over again. "
Membership cost does put people off they did use to couple only night which was great |
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We came on here to ask what people thought of the couples and single ladies room, as had received the email about it (not had a chance to visit for a while). Sounds, from the messages on here that actually talk about the room, that there aren't many single ladies visiting it. Would that be right? Although that would represent the overall clientele. |
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By *aciamiCouple 2 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"We came on here to ask what people thought of the couples and single ladies room, as had received the email about it (not had a chance to visit for a while). Sounds, from the messages on here that actually talk about the room, that there aren't many single ladies visiting it. Would that be right? Although that would represent the overall clientele."
The negative comments on here appear to be from people casting an opinion without having visited the club since the room was installed.
It's only a small room, approximately double the size of the shed rooms near the dark room. It has two double sofas and a bed, and so really can only accommodate 6 people - well, depending on how many you can fit on the bed
Yes it gets used, and is a great way of bringing coupes together who wouldn't necessarily chat in the bar area, as it encourages conversation with others in there.
If people are looking for single guys then they're not going to use it. Similarly, if couples don't want single guys watching their play then it's no different from them going to a private room, other than other couples can watch. If single fems are lookjng for single guys then they probably won't want to use it much, if they are looking for coulels then they will likely pop in frkm time to time.
People don't tend to stay in there for the entire night, they pop in from time to time just like any other area of the club.
It's a good addition for those wishing to escape being followed around by single guys for a bit.
Hopefully, it will encourage some of the more lecherous single guys to behave a bit better and therefore couples and single females wouldn't feel the need to use it.
I can't see it changing the dynamic of the club. It's just an additional space that allows a certain amount of privacy. |
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"They out price couples with the membership costs loads more couples would love to try the club either in the evening or during the day BUT to try the club its about £100, this puts loads of couples off trying it. We are sure if more couples could give the club a try they would love the place & come back. Its simple to resolve - offer couples one free entry (either day or night) when they purchase their membership. That way couples can try for £50 then hopefully come back over & over again. "
It’s £50 for couples on a Couples Only night. Everyone other Friday/Saturday night it’s £35.
You can do a trial membership for £15 each, with the option at the end of the night to pay the extra £10 to top up to a full year. |
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By *eper61Couple 2 weeks ago
Berks/Hamps/surrey |
"We came on here to ask what people thought of the couples and single ladies room, as had received the email about it (not had a chance to visit for a while). Sounds, from the messages on here that actually talk about the room, that there aren't many single ladies visiting it. Would that be right? Although that would represent the overall clientele.
The negative comments on here appear to be from people casting an opinion without having visited the club since the room was installed.
It's only a small room, approximately double the size of the shed rooms near the dark room. It has two double sofas and a bed, and so really can only accommodate 6 people - well, depending on how many you can fit on the bed
Yes it gets used, and is a great way of bringing coupes together who wouldn't necessarily chat in the bar area, as it encourages conversation with others in there.
If people are looking for single guys then they're not going to use it. Similarly, if couples don't want single guys watching their play then it's no different from them going to a private room, other than other couples can watch. If single fems are lookjng for single guys then they probably won't want to use it much, if they are looking for coulels then they will likely pop in frkm time to time.
People don't tend to stay in there for the entire night, they pop in from time to time just like any other area of the club.
It's a good addition for those wishing to escape being followed around by single guys for a bit.
Hopefully, it will encourage some of the more lecherous single guys to behave a bit better and therefore couples and single females wouldn't feel the need to use it.
I can't see it changing the dynamic of the club. It's just an additional space that allows a certain amount of privacy."
Totally agree... |
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By *aprica2Couple 2 weeks ago
Addlestone |
One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone |
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"They out price couples with the membership costs loads more couples would love to try the club either in the evening or during the day BUT to try the club its about £100, this puts loads of couples off trying it. We are sure if more couples could give the club a try they would love the place & come back. Its simple to resolve - offer couples one free entry (either day or night) when they purchase their membership. That way couples can try for £50 then hopefully come back over & over again.
It’s £50 for couples on a Couples Only night. Everyone other Friday/Saturday night it’s £35.
You can do a trial membership for £15 each, with the option at the end of the night to pay the extra £10 to top up to a full year. "
Thanks for the info but its still £80 to try the club so a very expencive test we are sure if they let couples in for 1 free session when they take out a membership (£50) they would hopefully love the club & come back for more. This was they got it try the club & they have a full years membership to encourage then back for more |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone "
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol"
Fair enough - but other prices are more than likely to increase to cover this discount that you want. |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol
Fair enough - but other prices are more than likely to increase to cover this discount that you want. "
We think it would increase revenue couples get to try the club instead of being put off by the first time cost - they would then hopefully come back. |
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"We came on here to ask what people thought of the couples and single ladies room, as had received the email about it (not had a chance to visit for a while). Sounds, from the messages on here that actually talk about the room, that there aren't many single ladies visiting it. Would that be right? Although that would represent the overall clientele.
The negative comments on here appear to be from people casting an opinion without having visited the club since the room was installed.
It's only a small room, approximately double the size of the shed rooms near the dark room. It has two double sofas and a bed, and so really can only accommodate 6 people - well, depending on how many you can fit on the bed
Yes it gets used, and is a great way of bringing coupes together who wouldn't necessarily chat in the bar area, as it encourages conversation with others in there.
If people are looking for single guys then they're not going to use it. Similarly, if couples don't want single guys watching their play then it's no different from them going to a private room, other than other couples can watch. If single fems are lookjng for single guys then they probably won't want to use it much, if they are looking for coulels then they will likely pop in frkm time to time.
People don't tend to stay in there for the entire night, they pop in from time to time just like any other area of the club.
It's a good addition for those wishing to escape being followed around by single guys for a bit.
Hopefully, it will encourage some of the more lecherous single guys to behave a bit better and therefore couples and single females wouldn't feel the need to use it.
I can't see it changing the dynamic of the club. It's just an additional space that allows a certain amount of privacy."
Sounds good to me! And i'm a single chap.... |
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"They out price couples with the membership costs loads more couples would love to try the club either in the evening or during the day BUT to try the club its about £100, this puts loads of couples off trying it. We are sure if more couples could give the club a try they would love the place & come back. Its simple to resolve - offer couples one free entry (either day or night) when they purchase their membership. That way couples can try for £50 then hopefully come back over & over again.
It’s £50 for couples on a Couples Only night. Everyone other Friday/Saturday night it’s £35.
You can do a trial membership for £15 each, with the option at the end of the night to pay the extra £10 to top up to a full year. "
Sounds great too! |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol
Fair enough - but other prices are more than likely to increase to cover this discount that you want.
We think it would increase revenue couples get to try the club instead of being put off by the first time cost - they would then hopefully come back. "
'Think' and 'Hopefully' don't pay the excessive bills clubs face. |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol
Fair enough - but other prices are more than likely to increase to cover this discount that you want.
We think it would increase revenue couples get to try the club instead of being put off by the first time cost - they would then hopefully come back.
'Think' and 'Hopefully' don't pay the excessive bills clubs face. "
Neither does not having people attend lets be honest the more couples or ladies that attend the busier the club becomes - all we are saying is let couples give the club a try without the upfront cost putting them off, simple. |
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"One of the clubs we visit does first time free just entry charge if they come back then you pay the membership, if you pick the wrong day spend your £100 and the wanking dead chase you about the place it could be off putting to new people, we kinda knew it would be like that when we tried a week day once every single guy had approached they got the hint and left us alone
We think its better to give the one free entry after they have taken out the membership as this would encourge them to come back even after a wanking dead expreience lol
Fair enough - but other prices are more than likely to increase to cover this discount that you want.
We think it would increase revenue couples get to try the club instead of being put off by the first time cost - they would then hopefully come back.
'Think' and 'Hopefully' don't pay the excessive bills clubs face. "
That's understandable, but looking at it another way is half of nothing us still nothing Liberty Elite offer the first visit as a free membership & only charge for the actual entry of the evening, speaking to John the owner a successful club owner for over 30 years told me the mindset is the money we'd take from a couple from the bar far exceeds the nothing had they not attended, showing them what's on offer brings back a 90% return of clients who otherwise may not have attended if the full charge was implemented |
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"We came on here to ask what people thought of the couples and single ladies room, as had received the email about it (not had a chance to visit for a while). Sounds, from the messages on here that actually talk about the room, that there aren't many single ladies visiting it. Would that be right? Although that would represent the overall clientele."
My single female friend and I go to this club. We'll be checking out the new area on our next visit |
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"more a play area"
Thanks - that’s what we figured but it’s not completely clear from the thread so we wanted to check.
Lots of good points raised in this thread. Priority for a club should be getting people to come back. That’s where the money is.
Single men are a cash cow, but let’s be honest there will always be a queue of them hoping to get lucky.
Keeping couples and especially single ladies happy and safe is where the priority should be (and possibly is based on the addition of this room). |
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"more a play area
Thanks - that’s what we figured but it’s not completely clear from the thread so we wanted to check.
Lots of good points raised in this thread. Priority for a club should be getting people to come back. That’s where the money is.
Single men are a cash cow, but let’s be honest there will always be a queue of them hoping to get lucky.
Keeping couples and especially single ladies happy and safe is where the priority should be (and possibly is based on the addition of this room)."
It's actually a little bit of both.
As you go through the door, on the right are 2 sofa's and on the left is a bed.
It was built as a sanctuary for couples and single ladies, whether you want to play or just sit and regroup before heading back out to the main area. |
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By *aciamiCouple 2 weeks ago
Hertfordshire |
"more a play area
Thanks - that’s what we figured but it’s not completely clear from the thread so we wanted to check.
Lots of good points raised in this thread. Priority for a club should be getting people to come back. That’s where the money is.
Single men are a cash cow, but let’s be honest there will always be a queue of them hoping to get lucky.
Keeping couples and especially single ladies happy and safe is where the priority should be (and possibly is based on the addition of this room).
It's actually a little bit of both.
As you go through the door, on the right are 2 sofa's and on the left is a bed.
It was built as a sanctuary for couples and single ladies, whether you want to play or just sit and regroup before heading back out to the main area."
Agree - it's both, not just a play area, but a place to chill and chat too... And watch
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Its a very well run club with brilliant staff and any issues you have will be sorted out swiftly.
The single guys at this venue are largely well behaved. The few that cause issues do not last long I can assure you.
The club still has couples only events and considering the size of venue and facilities there's something for everyone.
I've been to Saturday nights before and quiet frankly the vibe wasn't as great and the numbers were low. A good mix of people makes for a great night imho.
The couples room is a great addition for couples who only want to play with couples. I miss the private room next to it as the new one is ideal for Smurf and smurfette. Small people have a room too.
One unfortunate side effect is less couples near the bar and open areas but each to their own. You can't please everyone and there's no such thing as a perfect club.
There's something for everyone so enjoy. |
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Great addition to the club, we spent a lot of time in there today even had some fun in there.
Feels like the bed could be bigger though as there’s a lot of dead space.
Felt a bit like sitting in a really old room with the decor - but it’s nice and warm and cosy in there so it’s a nice space to chat.
The big men sign on the wall also means that every 5 minutes you get a single guy opening the door so might want to make the glory hole signage more obvious. |
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"Great addition to the club, we spent a lot of time in there today even had some fun in there.
Feels like the bed could be bigger though as there’s a lot of dead space.
Felt a bit like sitting in a really old room with the decor - but it’s nice and warm and cosy in there so it’s a nice space to chat.
The big men sign on the wall also means that every 5 minutes you get a single guy opening the door so might want to make the glory hole signage more obvious."
Totally agree with you about the decor and the bed can be bigger.
To the single guys who every few minutes popped their heads in... please read the sign.
Otherwise great addition and fun room to play in |
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"Great addition to the club, we spent a lot of time in there today even had some fun in there.
Feels like the bed could be bigger though as there’s a lot of dead space.
Felt a bit like sitting in a really old room with the decor - but it’s nice and warm and cosy in there so it’s a nice space to chat.
The big men sign on the wall also means that every 5 minutes you get a single guy opening the door so might want to make the glory hole signage more obvious.
Totally agree with you about the decor and the bed can be bigger.
To the single guys who every few minutes popped their heads in... please read the sign.
Otherwise great addition and fun room to play in "
Getting single men to behave properly seems to be a constant theme! |
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"Getting single men to behave properly seems to be a constant theme! "
It is but in this case I think it’s a case of poor signage rather than anything else.
The sign has an arrow on it in black marker but it’s barely noticeable.
The sign needs to be moved so it’s on the glory hole but I think that’s where the complication is. Where it needs to be is curtain so likely needs suspending from the ceiling. |
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But in our defence, we thought it was the cabins that had been done, so just looked at those and not the dark room side, we should have had a proper look really.