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"Clubs are usually more busy at the weekends. Weekdays, life and work get in the way. Saying that, even with weekends, some nights will be more busy than others. Also, as a single gent, you are going to struggle to find anywhere that charges only £20. And regarding queries about clubs facilities etc - it is best to check with club in question directly, via phonecall or email. " Thanks, yes, I thought £20 was cheap but last night I paid £15, and it seems that Townhouse is £15 tonight. Years ago, I remember it being £35 or so. 🤷♂️ | |||
"Clubs are usually more busy at the weekends. Weekdays, life and work get in the way. Saying that, even with weekends, some nights will be more busy than others. Also, as a single gent, you are going to struggle to find anywhere that charges only £20. And regarding queries about clubs facilities etc - it is best to check with club in question directly, via phonecall or email. Thanks, yes, I thought £20 was cheap but last night I paid £15, and it seems that Townhouse is £15 tonight. Years ago, I remember it being £35 or so. 🤷♂️" You have checked their website carefully, and you are aware it's BDSM event tonight there, yes? At least according to their website. That's why the price is different. | |||
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"Clubs are usually more busy at the weekends. Weekdays, life and work get in the way. Saying that, even with weekends, some nights will be more busy than others. Also, as a single gent, you are going to struggle to find anywhere that charges only £20. And regarding queries about clubs facilities etc - it is best to check with club in question directly, via phonecall or email. Thanks, yes, I thought £20 was cheap but last night I paid £15, and it seems that Townhouse is £15 tonight. Years ago, I remember it being £35 or so. 🤷♂️ You have checked their website carefully, and you are aware it's BDSM event tonight there, yes? At least according to their website. That's why the price is different. " Yeah, I read that. I'm not really into BDSM. I'm just looking for a social thing really - not that BDSMites aren't sociable. Maybe I'll Google other clubs and just see what's going on in them all. If there was somewhere that was busy and welcoming, I suppose that would be great! Although I remember their difficulties. If you're too welcoming, you'll have 5 women and 62 guys haha. Too unwelcoming and women don't bother because there won't be 10 men to choose from. 🤣 | |||
"Clubs are usually more busy at the weekends. Weekdays, life and work get in the way. Saying that, even with weekends, some nights will be more busy than others. Also, as a single gent, you are going to struggle to find anywhere that charges only £20. And regarding queries about clubs facilities etc - it is best to check with club in question directly, via phonecall or email. Thanks, yes, I thought £20 was cheap but last night I paid £15, and it seems that Townhouse is £15 tonight. Years ago, I remember it being £35 or so. 🤷♂️" I've just seen from another post that it's Radical Desire. This is a purely BDSM night and no sexual contact / swinging is allowed on these nights. I'd definitely give it a miss if that's not what you're after xx | |||
"Thought I'd pop on this as Townhouse is our most common club to go to. Haven't been since May though! In terms of how busy it can be, the answer is it depends on the night, some nights used to be packed there but it does seem that the place has been slowing down in terms of attendees since we started going there post COVID. Yes if you turn up as a group they will ask you to leave. I think there was a situation a few weeks ago where this happened from what I've heard. It can be cliquey as a club and there is lots of people who know each other which I suppose it can be tricky to get into as a single man. They do have a discord server for members which was useful to get up know people, not sure if it's still running. We've met some lovely friends there and had some good experiences though. The hot tub was out of action last time we went and I'm not sure if they've since replaced it or decided to get rid. It's definitely not a sauna / wet club environment and much more a lounge with a dance area and playrooms upstairs. Drinks are reasonably priced. If you're looking for a sauna type place have you looked at Sauna Sauna / Club Alchemy in Northwich? " Yes, the COVID thing is my concern. I have a feeling that it's, well... A struggling industry now. I wouldn't ever turn up as a group. It would either be me alone or me and a friend. Probably me and a friend. If that upsets people, though, that's going to be a problem. 🤷♂️🙈 I remember townhouse from years ago. I felt it was a little bit cliquey, but that wasn't a problem. I still managed to meet people, talk and the rest of it.  I'll investigate the discord thing.
It's a shame about the hot tub. They do have the pic on the website, so I assume maybe it is still there? I don't know. If it's gone though, it means we can't escape the social aspect for a bit. I like to heave breaks from talking every now and then.
"Sauna Sauna / Club Alchemy in Northwich" I'll Google it in a bit. Thanks!
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"Thought I'd pop on this as Townhouse is our most common club to go to. Haven't been since May though! In terms of how busy it can be, the answer is it depends on the night, some nights used to be packed there but it does seem that the place has been slowing down in terms of attendees since we started going there post COVID. Yes if you turn up as a group they will ask you to leave. I think there was a situation a few weeks ago where this happened from what I've heard. It can be cliquey as a club and there is lots of people who know each other which I suppose it can be tricky to get into as a single man. They do have a discord server for members which was useful to get up know people, not sure if it's still running. We've met some lovely friends there and had some good experiences though. The hot tub was out of action last time we went and I'm not sure if they've since replaced it or decided to get rid. It's definitely not a sauna / wet club environment and much more a lounge with a dance area and playrooms upstairs. Drinks are reasonably priced. If you're looking for a sauna type place have you looked at Sauna Sauna / Club Alchemy in Northwich? " I went tonight! Wow, what a great place! It was very male-heavy, but yeah! Brilliant facilities! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. | |||
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"You're welcome, we were there too and found the heavy males off-putting but still had a good night nonetheless. If you're into a sauna style club it's probably the best option for you. " Yes, I think it's a major problem for the whole industry. I remember years ago that the ratio of male to female on this site was something near 40:1. It's pretty cruel, but it is what it is. I get the feeling that the problem is now worse. Nevermind, I've been to two clubs in two nights now. I'll probably try one more to see what happens! Failing that, there's the old "I'm looking for a relationship" trick. Lol | |||
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"Sauna sauna is more geared towards gay/bi men unless specific events are being hosted - so maybe keep an eye out for those events if you like the venue TH doesn't have the hot tub- it broke and they said it's too expensive to fix so got rid. They do have a lot of bdsm nights so make sure you go on an event that suits you. Cupids doesn't have a working hot tub anymore either but I think (personally) is the best club around Manchester for well attended events and a great mix of ppl Partners has a lovely hot tub/sauna area but ive not been so can't comment on the ppl attending Adam and eves.... I've not been so can't comment at all As for paying £20..... sure maybe on the week days but at the weekend for a single make you're more looking like £50 Perhaps our paths will cross at Cupids sometime
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"Thanks, yes... I've been asking lots of people in the two clubs over the past two nights and the majority are in agreement with you. Cupid's seems to be the best! I'm not going to pay £50 though. I can take some lady on a date for that, chat and let it build up, etc. Damn, we have a lady problem though... We need to start getting water companies to add aphrodisiacs to the water! Lol | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have alot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist" Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.  | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have alot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens. "Don't you drive? If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost alot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have alot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost alot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member"Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club. | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have alot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost alot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member"Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will... | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will... "So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP. | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have alot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost alot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club. "Yes, you're right. There's ofcourse a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further. | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP. "No, I'm not "keen" enough to do that. It's not necessary for me to travel that far for what I need. Ultimately, the whole thing is balance I suppose. I just want 50 women to come to my house and fuss over me. Infact, they can pay me also. It's not a big ask really is it? Lol Seriously though, interesting comments. X | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP.
No, I'm not "keen" enough to do that. It's not necessary for me to travel that far for what I need. Ultimately, the whole thing is balance I suppose.
I just want 50 women to come to my house and fuss over me. Infact, they can pay me also. It's not a big ask really is it? Lol
Seriously though, interesting comments. X"Lol, my partner wants to join you and help lol. He would love a "greedy boy" night, too | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP.
No, I'm not "keen" enough to do that. It's not necessary for me to travel that far for what I need. Ultimately, the whole thing is balance I suppose.
I just want 50 women to come to my house and fuss over me. Infact, they can pay me also. It's not a big ask really is it? Lol
Seriously though, interesting comments. X
Lol, my partner wants to join you and help lol. He would love a "greedy boy" night, too "Haha, a greedy boy night. Jeez, imagine it. We could reward the ladies with flowers, chocolates, excessive compliments and bogus marriage proposals! Bah! Oh. Seriously though, it's just human sexuality isn't it. Women have the upper hand in this game. It's ok though, I can reach for jars on the tops of cupboards! | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further."I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club. Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first... 
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck  | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP. "I've tried a club in London (Hellfire) and I've gone to vanilla alternative twice and I don't drive so yes it's worth it just to explore. I'm also thinking about Eureka in Kent next year I once went to a kik social in Southampton, that was definitely worth while as I ended up having alot of fun all night and no sleep lol | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck "Thanks! So, it's interesting. I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss. Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't. I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy! It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years. Thanks for the info. | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP.
I've tried a club in London (Hellfire) and I've gone to vanilla alternative twice and I don't drive so yes it's worth it just to explore. I'm also thinking about Eureka in Kent next year
I once went to a kik social in Southampton, that was definitely worth while as I ended up having alot of fun all night and no sleep lol"Haha, well there you go then. I suppose I have a lazier approach to the whole thing. Having said that, I think it's different for us men. As a woman, I think you can travel anywhere knowing that you're going to be in demand. For us, you can travel with a reasonable belief that you may not even be allowed in. If you do get in, there's a good chance you'd be ignored, etc. It's not as fun knowing that you're "nothing".
Then again, on the likes of Facebook dating it's the opposite situation. Say "I'm looking for a relationship" on that and women are all over you. 🤷♂️ | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP.
I've tried a club in London (Hellfire) and I've gone to vanilla alternative twice and I don't drive so yes it's worth it just to explore. I'm also thinking about Eureka in Kent next year
I once went to a kik social in Southampton, that was definitely worth while as I ended up having alot of fun all night and no sleep lol
Haha, well there you go then. I suppose I have a lazier approach to the whole thing.
Having said that, I think it's different for us men. As a woman, I think you can travel anywhere knowing that you're going to be in demand. For us, you can travel with a reasonable belief that you may not even be allowed in. If you do get in, there's a good chance you'd be ignored, etc. It's not as fun knowing that you're "nothing".
Then again, on the likes of Facebook dating it's the opposite situation. Say "I'm looking for a relationship" on that and women are all over you. 🤷♂️"With swinging you can't always have the idea of guareenteed play. When I went to vanilla alternative I didn't play, it was a weird vib but I did enjoy the naked camping experience lol. Alot of the time though I tend to go to clubs more for the social side as its better than a normal night club and cheaper in some places as you can bring your own drinks. I do get it with the single guys but you've got to attend the same club a few times to get noticed or have particular features that some females are looking for. If you're someone that likes to talk like myself you'll do great in any club. It's the ones that stare at you and don't speak or follow you around and not speak that irritate me. The wanking dead are worse lol 😆 | |||
" Yes, I drive. I suppose you're right really. I should stop being lazy and just explore. Maybe I will...
So you're willing to do a 180 miles plus round trip just so you can experience a different club? Is the cost of that, and possibly an overnight stay, really worth it? It's up to you though, OP.
I've tried a club in London (Hellfire) and I've gone to vanilla alternative twice and I don't drive so yes it's worth it just to explore. I'm also thinking about Eureka in Kent next year
I once went to a kik social in Southampton, that was definitely worth while as I ended up having alot of fun all night and no sleep lol
Haha, well there you go then. I suppose I have a lazier approach to the whole thing.
Having said that, I think it's different for us men. As a woman, I think you can travel anywhere knowing that you're going to be in demand. For us, you can travel with a reasonable belief that you may not even be allowed in. If you do get in, there's a good chance you'd be ignored, etc. It's not as fun knowing that you're "nothing".
Then again, on the likes of Facebook dating it's the opposite situation. Say "I'm looking for a relationship" on that and women are all over you. 🤷♂️
With swinging you can't always have the idea of guareenteed play. When I went to vanilla alternative I didn't play, it was a weird vib but I did enjoy the naked camping experience lol. Alot of the time though I tend to go to clubs more for the social side as its better than a normal night club and cheaper in some places as you can bring your own drinks. I do get it with the single guys but you've got to attend the same club a few times to get noticed or have particular features that some females are looking for.
If you're someone that likes to talk like myself you'll do great in any club. It's the ones that stare at you and don't speak or follow you around and not speak that irritate me. The wanking dead are worse lol 😆 "Yes, I realise that and on Thursday night, I (the male!) was the one who declined. It's complicated isn't it? Yes! I like that too. That's what I'm looking for really. Just a place where you can chat, have a few drinks, but you know that the possibility is there. I suppose it's a really difficult industry though. For men, yes I agree. I think you just have to be chatty! Maybe you're right though... Maybe it's about being regular too. I don't know. All in all, it has to be worth the travelling and money while ticking the necessary boxes. It's certainly not worth paying £50 in my opinion. I'd prefer to take some lady out for that one to one. 🤷♂️ | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info."I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say... | |||
" All in all, it has to be worth the travelling and money while ticking the necessary boxes. It's certainly not worth paying £50 in my opinion. I'd prefer to take some lady out for that one to one. 🤷♂️" Absolutely this mate! I've 'pulled' in Vanillaland three times just recently; on a cruise ship, at a gig, and on a 22 minute train journey home from a night out Just little old me, no different from the guy who was routinely blanked in swinger clubs.... | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say... "I'm surprised about the club play mention as I've been and everyone's friendly and interacts with others and I've been on busy event nights and quieter nights and I'm not a local and seen plenty of single guys getting involved. Might have been a 1 off bad night. As mentioned sometimes you need to go a couple of times or say hi to people. If you're going with the expectations of sex you're going to be let down. Go with the expectations of having a good night without the thought of sex and you might get lucky After 2 years alot of things have changed. Covid put alot of people off from clubs but it seems to be picking back up again. Give it another try | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say... "As a single guy who has been swinging for around 20 years, I have to agree that its become harder for us to have social interaction in clubs over the last 10 years. It may be due to the increase in numbers of single men going to clubs (especially those who join the Wanking Dead). But there are clubs out there, were you can talk to people and make friends; Jaydees is the friendliest club I have been too (and I have been to a lot), and AbFab/Kestrels was friendly too. | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say... "Yes, I completely understand what you mean! I have experienced a similar thing. Yes, I absolutely understand. I had the same thing last night on some occasions. Trying to keep myself entertained alone without coming across as creepy. At one point, I was in the hot tub and a couple came in. It was really awkward because they didn't want to talk. You don't want to look at her so that it makes you look weird, but at the same time, you don't want to be looking down for 10 minutes! You know that they were thinking "Oh ffs, another guy...". I suppose it's a really complicated industry. Ultimately, in my opinion, it's simply down to a lack of sexual women, and I think that's down to human sexuality. What can you do though? There's not a lot you can do to make it a level playing field. I think they charge men extra to deincentivise them, but then surely, if some guy is willing to pay £50 for a chance, does that say something about his ability to get it elsewhere? Maybe it does, or maybe not. I don't know. As for women, what the hell can you do? Here love, here's £50 for your troubles... Obviously then it becomes veiled prostitution. The industry must be a nightmare for the business owners. | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say...
I'm surprised about the club play mention as I've been and everyone's friendly and interacts with others and I've been on busy event nights and quieter nights and I'm not a local and seen plenty of single guys getting involved. Might have been a 1 off bad night. As mentioned sometimes you need to go a couple of times or say hi to people. If you're going with the expectations of sex you're going to be let down. Go with the expectations of having a good night without the thought of sex and you might get lucky
After 2 years a lot of things have changed. Covid put a lot of people off from clubs but it seems to be picking back up again. Give it another try"Club Play remains my worst ever clubs experience, and literally did put me off visiting others for the best part of 2 years. I have been back to Club f in Durham since though (my 6th time there), and also I had a look at Shhh in Newcastle, who I have to say, rank as the most friendly and welcoming I've ever experienced. Every member of staff on the night made the effort to speak to me, and showed an interest in this new face, by himself. That was a good feeling  | |||
" All in all, it has to be worth the travelling and money while ticking the necessary boxes. It's certainly not worth paying £50 in my opinion. I'd prefer to take some lady out for that one to one. 🤷♂️ Absolutely this mate! I've 'pulled' in Vanillaland three times just recently; on a cruise ship, at a gig, and on a 22 minute train journey home from a night out Just little old me, no different from the guy who was routinely blanked in swinger clubs.... "Lidl is good too. Bah! | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say...
As a single guy who has been swinging for around 20 years, I have to agree that its become harder for us to have social interaction in clubs over the last 10 years. It may be due to the increase in numbers of single men going to clubs (especially those who join the Wanking Dead).
But there are clubs out there, were you can talk to people and make friends; Jaydees is the friendliest club I have been too (and I have been to a lot), and AbFab/Kestrels was friendly too.
"Yes, this is what I'm thinking. I've made mental note of those names. Thanks! 🫢 | |||
" I'm surprised about the club play mention as I've been and everyone's friendly and interacts with others and I've been on busy event nights and quieter nights and I'm not a local and seen plenty of single guys getting involved. Might have been a 1 off bad night. As mentioned sometimes you need to go a couple of times or say hi to people. If you're going with the expectations of sex you're going to be let down. Go with the expectations of having a good night without the thought of sex and you might get lucky After 2 years a lot of things have changed. Covid put a lot of people off from clubs but it seems to be picking back up again. Give it another try" Two points to note; I've never had any expectations for any of the club visits I've done, and that's a total of 19 visits spread over 8 clubs in the NW and NE. I've just taken the mentality of rock up, see what the vibe is for the night, and go with the flow! At the very least, a new veri or two on my profile
And;
If you went to a recommended restaurant, and had a disappointing meal with poor service, would you return another time? | |||
" All in all, it has to be worth the travelling and money while ticking the necessary boxes. It's certainly not worth paying £50 in my opinion. I'd prefer to take some lady out for that one to one. 🤷♂️ Absolutely this mate! I've 'pulled' in Vanillaland three times just recently; on a cruise ship, at a gig, and on a 22 minute train journey home from a night out Just little old me, no different from the guy who was routinely blanked in swinger clubs....
Lidl is good too. Bah! "We don't have a Lidl in Penrith, so I'm back to traveling again.... | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say...
As a single guy who has been swinging for around 20 years, I have to agree that its become harder for us to have social interaction in clubs over the last 10 years. It may be due to the increase in numbers of single men going to clubs (especially those who join the Wanking Dead).
But there are clubs out there, were you can talk to people and make friends; Jaydees is the friendliest club I have been too (and I have been to a lot), and AbFab/Kestrels was friendly too.
Yes, this is what I'm thinking. I've made mental note of those names. Thanks! 🫢"Jaydees is currently being refurbished, but its worth a visit, especially in the summer as it has a great outdoor area (its in the countryside). AbFab is great as its in London and being opposite Heathrow has loads of hotels very close by. Townhouse used to be great, but its not as welcoming as it once was | |||
" I'm surprised about the club play mention as I've been and everyone's friendly and interacts with others and I've been on busy event nights and quieter nights and I'm not a local and seen plenty of single guys getting involved. Might have been a 1 off bad night. As mentioned sometimes you need to go a couple of times or say hi to people. If you're going with the expectations of sex you're going to be let down. Go with the expectations of having a good night without the thought of sex and you might get lucky After 2 years a lot of things have changed. Covid put a lot of people off from clubs but it seems to be picking back up again. Give it another try Two points to note; I've never had any expectations for any of the club visits I've done, and that's a total of 19 visits spread over 8 clubs in the NW and NE. I've just taken the mentality of rock up, see what the vibe is for the night, and go with the flow! At the very least, a new veri or two on my profile
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If you went to a recommended restaurant, and had a disappointing meal with poor service, would you return another time?"I agree with you. I have the same approach. I know what you're saying. I also have no expectations. Well, I want the sauna to work. Haha! Lidl, yes... Good old Lidl. Haha! | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say...
As a single guy who has been swinging for around 20 years, I have to agree that its become harder for us to have social interaction in clubs over the last 10 years. It may be due to the increase in numbers of single men going to clubs (especially those who join the Wanking Dead).
But there are clubs out there, were you can talk to people and make friends; Jaydees is the friendliest club I have been too (and I have been to a lot), and AbFab/Kestrels was friendly too.
Yes, this is what I'm thinking. I've made mental note of those names. Thanks! 🫢
Jaydees is currently being refurbished, but its worth a visit, especially in the summer as it has a great outdoor area (its in the countryside). AbFab is great as its in London and being opposite Heathrow has loads of hotels very close by.
Townhouse used to be great, but its not as welcoming as it once was"London is 200 miles away from me! Townhouse. That's a shame. I'll probably go to try it anyway to be sure, not tonight because there's a female only even on I think. 🙂 | |||
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"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x "Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈 | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈"But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways. | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈
But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways. "Pmsl!
Amazingly; every club host will insist their club is the most friendly and welcoming, but rarely have I experienced anything more than "Single guy? Thanks for your money, it's through there...." | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈
But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways. "Haha! I suppose it's ok if you're going that way... Yes, I don't mind an hour away, we'll, I do sort of. Haha! I'd prefer 30 mins, but whatever. I'll just have to drive. 🤣 | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈
But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways.
Pmsl!
Amazingly; every club host will insist their club is the most friendly and welcoming, but rarely have I experienced anything more than "Single guy? Thanks for your money, it's through there...." "Haha, yes. Ahhh, I don't know. We need to issue the root cause. The massive difference in human sexuality between the sexes here. Can't we import a few thousand sexual women to the UK from Brazil or something to help balance us out? Surely the UK government should fund this. | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈
But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways.
Pmsl!
Amazingly; every club host will insist their club is the most friendly and welcoming, but rarely have I experienced anything more than "Single guy? Thanks for your money, it's through there...."
Haha, yes. Ahhh, I don't know. We need to issue the root cause. The massive difference in human sexuality between the sexes here.
Can't we import a few thousand sexual women to the UK from Brazil or something to help balance us out? Surely the UK government should fund this. "Just make sure they are definitely women! I've heard that a lot of Thai/Phillipino/Brazilian "lady boys" (ok, ok, don't chew my head off, "TVs") can be extremely convincing. | |||
"Hey, Have a look into the annex, kings lynn.. worth the travel, so friendly and welcoming! We host events there, happy for u to check our veri and have a look on the website x
Ewwwwooooo! It's a 4hr drive away! 🙈🙈🙈
But you drive! Lol. Stop being so lazy, what's wrong with driving for hours on time just so you can, possibly, get your leg over?
I think some people on here, particularly club hosts, need to get a bit more realistic. However, saying that, I often try and include a visit to a club when me and my partner are on holidays/weekend breaks. Also, there are two clubs in UK my FWB does not mind driving to and from in one day - one is roughly an hour away, the other- almost 2h, baring any issues on the motorways.
Pmsl!
Amazingly; every club host will insist their club is the most friendly and welcoming, but rarely have I experienced anything more than "Single guy? Thanks for your money, it's through there...."
Haha, yes. Ahhh, I don't know. We need to issue the root cause. The massive difference in human sexuality between the sexes here.
Can't we import a few thousand sexual women to the UK from Brazil or something to help balance us out? Surely the UK government should fund this.
Just make sure they are definitely women! I've heard that a lot of Thai/Phillipino/Brazilian "lady boys" (ok, ok, don't chew my head off, "TVs") can be extremely convincing."Haha, yes, that's a genuine concern but we can process them. I've got a few ideas. First though, we need to pull out of ECHR. 🤣 Have you been to Benidorm. I'm not joking, I was genuinely shocked. How can a man look so incredible?!? Me and my testicles genuinely had no idea what was going on in that place. The only telltale sign was the voice, but then you're thinking "Is she a woman who smokes an awful lot?!?" I don't know. I steered clear to be sure, but fair play to those ladies/gentlemen/people... | |||
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"Open suggestions of gaslighting and putting aphrodisiac in water to get what you want might put people off if you hint at that type of shit in conversation." Haha, you're right. You know how sensitive people get. | |||
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"Cum and try infusion in Blackpool, it’s very much a wet/sauna club, with a chilled out atmosphere. Granted I work there and would say that but it really is worth a try
Single guys are just as valued and welcomed as single females and couples xx "It's very far away, but if I'm ever in the area! X | |||
"I go to townhouse a fair bit, I started going after COVID with a partner. I was lucky enough to get to know most of the staff and the regulars as part of a couple. Now I go as a single guy and although I'm probably considered a regular and I think I have a good enough reputation there it's still a totally different vibe. The comments OP made about wandering aimlessly feeling like it's hard to break into the groups that are already established ring very true. I would say the best way to deal with it is to find the online groups and get chatting with people so you e got some friendly faces in there when you go. " Thanks! | |||
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on "Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed! | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!"I must say hanky’s events are always amazing and well attended, it’s just a shame I can’t get to them anymore  | |||
"If you don't mind travelling abit further out there Quest. Most nights you need to have a membership but Tuesday (it's bi day) is non members but not sure on door prices for single guys and yes you can bring a friend. They do non members events if your name is on the guestlist, they also have a Greedy girls event once a month, 2nd Thursday where you can just turn up and it's non members Quest is a friendly club, some people say it's cliquey but it's not if people actually talk to people and make the effort. I'll talk to anyone, that's why I have a lot of verifies as I will talk to anyone Other clubs that are non members are club play in Blackpool but you need to put your name on the guestlist Wheeew! That's 90 miles away from me. Yes, cliquey clubs aren't really a big problem for me. I can talk/laugh with anyone. I'll try another local-ish one and see what happens.
Don't you drive?
If I drove they'd be no stopping me to where I'd go but I have to take public transport which cost a lot but it's worth it. I travel all over, I've been to loads of clubs over the years. Don't let mileage put you off, sometimes further away can be a better option. I know people that travel from Newcastle to go to the Sunday all day and night session at Quest but that day you'd have to be a member
Not everyone wants to drive for miles and miles on end to get to a club.
Yes, you're right. There's of course a trade-off. How much do I want to do something/go somewhere. Generally, I feel as though a 30 min drive should be sufficient. That probably is a bit lazy though! Maybe I should travel further.
I've been to several clubs over the years mate (8 in total), and living in Cumbria, it's at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction for me to visit any club.
Going in as a single guy to any club makes no difference, the next club I am welcomed with "Fantastic! Another single guy!" will definitely be the first...
All clubs are essentially the same, what makes the experience enjoyable/rewarding is WHO you meet inside.
All clubs have their EGOF's (Established Groups Of Friends, they don't like the term cliques), and it's very easy to feel unwanted as you wander around by yourself, as the majority in there will have already pre-arranged their meets in advance....
Take advice from someone who failed on the club scene; never visit a club solo, unless you have a meet lined up inside. Good luck
Thanks! So, it's interesting.
I'd say I've visited clubs 5 or 6 times in total. I can't say that I was unlucky any of those times. Each time, I got some sort of female attention in one way or another, to various extents, so it's not a total loss.
Yes, I know what you mean. We simply aren't in demand by default. The ratios are massively in favour of women, and they know it. I've noticed though that in these places, if you're chatty, you're already one step ahead of the guys who aren't.
I've also done the wandering around alone stuff, and it makes you look creepy. I was bored last night at a few points throughout the night, but made sure that I didn't do anything that could be perceived as creepy!
It's interesting to do all this again after 5 years.
Thanks for the info.
I've run a customer-facing, sales business for the last 25 years mate, I have no problems chatting/opening conversations with strangers. Indeed; I visited Townhouse on 2 occasions (4 in total btw), had my evening meal in the Village Hotel (where I was staying) just down the road, and got more conversations going with random strangers, than I did going to TH afterwards. Same with the time I went to Club Play, in Blackpool; I had my evening meal in the Albert and Lion on the front, which was a busy Wetherspoons, full of happy party-goers going out for the night, and I'm just a lonely guy in a bar, but not an issue making conversation with anyone in there. Fast forward to entering Club Play, and once over the threshold I'm now a 'single guy in a swinger's club', and summarily ignored/avoided in deference to the couples/regulars huddled around the bar. That visit put me off clubs for 2 years....
It is difficult though, knowing where to put yourself in a club situation, when you're by yourself, and nobody shows any interest. I hate looking like a 'creepy guy' or 'the wanking dead', and once I start feeling like a gatecrasher, I'm out of there. Nobody cares you leave early either, I have to say...
Yes, I completely understand what you mean! I have experienced a similar thing.
Yes, I absolutely understand. I had the same thing last night on some occasions. Trying to keep myself entertained alone without coming across as creepy. At one point, I was in the hot tub and a couple came in. It was really awkward because they didn't want to talk. You don't want to look at her so that it makes you look weird, but at the same time, you don't want to be looking down for 10 minutes!
You know that they were thinking "Oh ffs, another guy...".
I suppose it's a really complicated industry. Ultimately, in my opinion, it's simply down to a lack of sexual women, and I think that's down to human sexuality.
What can you do though? There's not a lot you can do to make it a level playing field. I think they charge men extra to deincentivise them, but then surely, if some guy is willing to pay £50 for a chance, does that say something about his ability to get it elsewhere? Maybe it does, or maybe not. I don't know.
As for women, what the hell can you do? Here love, here's £50 for your troubles... Obviously then it becomes veiled prostitution. The industry must be a nightmare for the business owners."There is no 'lack of sexual women'. Remember, every woman in a swingers club has chosen to travel to that venue. But chemistry, attraction, approach etc all play their part. And many times a man's sexual performance is sadly lacking. This is a common complaint amongst most women I talk to at clubs share. | |||
" There is no 'lack of sexual women'. Remember, every woman in a swingers club has chosen to travel to that venue. But chemistry, attraction, approach etc all play their part. And many times a man's sexual performance is sadly lacking. This is a common complaint amongst most women I talk to at clubs share." I very much agree. I very, very rarely play with someone who has not even bothered to say "hi" to me in a social area, before I started playing (only if they are in the right place at the right time). I am not desperate; as I don't drive, I am always in a club with either my partner or my FWB, who keep me busy enough; and I can't just fuck anyone, I need some chemistry with them. Therefore, a lot of the times I wonder why all those mute men even chose to come to a club, if they are unable to talk to people. And then they complain they're not getting any "action" in the club... Maybe those men should actually bite the bullet and spend their money at establishments where sex is guaranteed without having to do any small talk. | |||
" There is no 'lack of sexual women'. Remember, every woman in a swingers club has chosen to travel to that venue. But chemistry, attraction, approach etc all play their part. And many times a man's sexual performance is sadly lacking. This is a common complaint amongst most women I talk to at clubs share. I very much agree. I very, very rarely play with someone who has not even bothered to say "hi" to me in a social area, before I started playing (only if they are in the right place at the right time). I am not desperate; as I don't drive, I am always in a club with either my partner or my FWB, who keep me busy enough; and I can't just fuck anyone, I need some chemistry with them. Therefore, a lot of the times I wonder why all those mute men even chose to come to a club, if they are unable to talk to people. And then they complain they're not getting any "action" in the club... Maybe those men should actually bite the bullet and spend their money at establishments where sex is guaranteed without having to do any small talk. " I couldn't agree more Often I see men sat there and not talk but will follow you around a club and assume you'll play. I go to the club on my own and often talk to everyone I know. I know some men get nervous and are scared of a knock back but at least try and talk. I go for personality over looks so talking to me in the social area helps get the juices flowing so to speak | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
I must say hanky’s events are always amazing and well attended, it’s just a shame I can’t get to them anymore "Oh bless you beautiful! Miss ya face x x | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!"See you there 1st Feb then?  | |||
" There is no 'lack of sexual women'. Remember, every woman in a swingers club has chosen to travel to that venue. But chemistry, attraction, approach etc all play their part. And many times a man's sexual performance is sadly lacking. This is a common complaint amongst most women I talk to at clubs share. I very much agree. I very, very rarely play with someone who has not even bothered to say "hi" to me in a social area, before I started playing (only if they are in the right place at the right time). I am not desperate; as I don't drive, I am always in a club with either my partner or my FWB, who keep me busy enough; and I can't just fuck anyone, I need some chemistry with them. Therefore, a lot of the times I wonder why all those mute men even chose to come to a club, if they are unable to talk to people. And then they complain they're not getting any "action" in the club... Maybe those men should actually bite the bullet and spend their money at establishments where sex is guaranteed without having to do any small talk. I couldn't agree more Often I see men sat there and not talk but will follow you around a club and assume you'll play. I go to the club on my own and often talk to everyone I know. I know some men get nervous and are scared of a knock back but at least try and talk. I go for personality over looks so talking to me in the social area helps get the juices flowing so to speak " I’ve not been to either of the Leeds clubs yet, but am often over there for the weekend during the racing season. I’ll make more of an effort to visit one, or both (if I can find a single guy friendly event while there) next year, and hopefully meet a friendly regular or two | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then? "That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money! Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self! | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self! "The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders. I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman. | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman. "Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed. However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add! The night before I went to partners and that was £15. It's not all bad. | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad."Well prices aside, there is never a lack of women at my events, very strict on ratios! | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad."Business reasons don't trump the law or the equalities act 🤷♂️🤷♂️ I'm a gardener, I always say imagine if all the local gardeners got together and decided to up the prices of old ladies who couldn't manage to do the work themselves. It would make business sense but does that mean it's right? | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad.
Well prices aside, there is never a lack of women at my events, very strict on ratios! "Ok my darling. Thanks x | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad.
Business reasons don't trump the law or the equalities act 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I'm a gardener, I always say imagine if all the local gardeners got together and decided to up the prices of old ladies who couldn't manage to do the work themselves. It would make business sense but does that mean it's right? "Oh no sir, I agree with you. Let's be honest though, I mean this; equality is not a movement that aims to please or equalise the rights of men. Are we treated equally? Absolutely not. Men are treated like shit all over - especially where it comes to social issues. That being said, I think a lot of men don't help themselves. | |||
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"Honestly I don't actually mind paying a bit more. The drinks are cheap when you get in most places so it evens out (mostly) It's when ladies go free or for a fiver but a bloke is expected to pay upto £50 it's a bit too uneven and just leaves a bad taste. 🤷♂️ (Chances are I'll still plump up if it looks like a good night! 🤦♂️ )" I totally understand. This is exactly why I won't pay £50. Leave that to the more "keen" guys who feel as though £50 is good value - I have too much pride. I prefer the social events. Everyone pays £15 or so, there are 50 men, 10 couples and 7 women... I'm not intimidated by the high numbers of men. The past two clubs I went to though, the number of single ladies was shockingly low. | |||
"We’ve noticed a difference in clubs over the last few years(probably since COVID) We’ve attended club in the north west and the West Midlands, seems a lot of guys think it’s ok to just touch,follow you round in case you are going to play. Notice a lot of bare back or a guy wanting to play but hasn’t got any protection with them. We like to chat and a little banter first and then if things are going well then possibly end up playing, but it’s like the art of conversation has disappeared. Don’t get us wrong there are some great guys in clubs it’s just getting harder to find them unfortunately. Xx" This is just a mild suggestion that might offend some, but I think it's worth considering: If a guy is willing to pay £50 for "a chance", does that say something about his social skills? It could be that the more confident and social guys simply won't pay £50, because they don't feel that they need to. It's just an idea though. X | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad.
Well prices aside, there is never a lack of women at my events, very strict on ratios! "Can I ask what ratios you run for your events, and what your average solo guy entry fee is please (you can dm if you prefer)? I have a ceiling of £50 for an entry fee (I once paid £50 to visit Cupids and enjoyed two cups of tea), and although the Alchemy entry of £18 and Partners entry of £15 sound attractive, to me it just sounds like two quiet nights looking for volume footfall to top the club coffers up, and most probably, unlikely to have any solo women in.....as is the usual scenario in my experience..... | |||
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" This is just a mild suggestion that might offend some, but I think it's worth considering: If a guy is willing to pay £50 for "a chance", does that say something about his social skills? It could be that the more confident and social guys simply won't pay £50, because they don't feel that they need to. It's just an idea though. X" I think any price anyone pays is paying for 'the chance' but if they attend a busier event rather than say a none hosted weekday night then they're paying a higher level for the event and as a by product more people. OP- you seem to be suggesting that you won't pay £40+ as you'd rather use that to buy drinks for a woman on a night out. So- clearly you're just looking for casual sex and not exactly 'swinging' - so...... why don't you just do that? K | |||
"It's not the ratios that are important in my opinion. It's the low amount of single women. The ratio could be 1:3 but it's no good if there's only 1 woman there. If I'm not into her, it's game over. The ratio could be 15:100... I'd prefer that because then I have some choice. The competition doesn't bother me. Half of them do the looking down, wanking bollocks." I agree with the "low volume of single women" for sure mate. This is why I always say; you'll meet more single women in your local Wetherspoons, than in a swinger club. Because it's true! | |||
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" This is just a mild suggestion that might offend some, but I think it's worth considering: If a guy is willing to pay £50 for "a chance", does that say something about his social skills? It could be that the more confident and social guys simply won't pay £50, because they don't feel that they need to. It's just an idea though. X I think any price anyone pays is paying for 'the chance' but if they attend a busier event rather than say a none hosted weekday night then they're paying a higher level for the event and as a by product more people. OP- you seem to be suggesting that you won't pay £40+ as you'd rather use that to buy drinks for a woman on a night out. So- clearly you're just looking for casual sex and not exactly 'swinging' - so...... why don't you just do that? K" I can sort of see what you mean. Yes, basically, for me, on here, it's the opportunity to find someone fun for sex (ish). I suppose it's the same for most single men and women on here really. So the reason I don't do as you've suggested is because I'm looking for more exciting ways to have fun. They are here too! I paid only £15 for one swingers club and £18 in the other. That's good value for a sauna, etc and with then opportunity to chat to fun women. I'm happy with that. It's just a tradeoff. I'm looking for a middle ground. I want to be able to socialise with more women. I just need to try a few more places I think. X | |||
"It's not the ratios that are important in my opinion. It's the low amount of single women. The ratio could be 1:3 but it's no good if there's only 1 woman there. If I'm not into her, it's game over. The ratio could be 15:100... I'd prefer that because then I have some choice. The competition doesn't bother me. Half of them do the looking down, wanking bollocks. I agree with the "low volume of single women" for sure mate. This is why I always say; you'll meet more single women in your local Wetherspoons, than in a swinger club. Because it's true! "Yes, it's just the way it is. You know that all 3 of the women in a swingers club are going to be fun and open-minded. It's going to cost £40 and you might not be into them. You're a lesser citizen in there and it can be awkward. You know that there are going to be 20 women in wetherspoons, 18 of which you know are not likely to be sexually minded (for want of a better term). It's free to get in, you can easily find someone to talk to and you're not at all out of place. It's hard to explain... I know what I'm going to do though! I've decided. I'm going to swingers social events and meet people there. That's what I'm going to do. | |||
"Can someone honestly tell me that a clean, sober guy can pay £50 at something like a greedy girls event and still not get any 'covered' action? " Just because it's a "greedy girls" event, it still doesn't mean the women there would fuck anything and everything. I guess the chance is higher on the gangbang type events, where the woman wants a high volume of men. But would you really want to fuck someone who has already been fucked by however many guys, especially if it's a bareback gangbang and she already has a few loads in her? Everyone to their own, and I'm not kink shaming but that's not for me. | |||
"Can someone honestly tell me that a clean, sober guy can pay £50 at something like a greedy girls event and still not get any 'covered' action? " I've never been to a £50 event so I wouldn't know. I've been to the cheaper events though probably 6 times. I've had attention (and the opportunity for more) on every occasion, but most often it's from someone who's from 1 of the 2 women there who are not at all my type. The last club I went to, I'd say there were at least 30 men and 2 women. I'd say around 20 of those men were doing that sheep thing where they just follow women/couples in flocks, looking down with dick in hand. They never get anything. So certainly on the cheaper events, yes, a clean sober guy can very easily go without because; 1. The majority of men don't interact. 2. The woman count can be extremely low and the chances are that the woman is not going to be their type. | |||
"Can someone honestly tell me that a clean, sober guy can pay £50 at something like a greedy girls event and still not get any 'covered' action? Just because it's a "greedy girls" event, it still doesn't mean the women there would fuck anything and everything. I guess the chance is higher on the gangbang type events, where the woman wants a high volume of men. But would you really want to fuck someone who has already been fucked by however many guys, especially if it's a bareback gangbang and she already has a few loads in her? Everyone to their own, and I'm not kink shaming but that's not for me." Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!? | |||
"Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!?" Of course they do, that decision is wholly down to the participants, most importantly the woman. Often when the woman is insisting on condoms, she will/should have a partner watching for anyone trying to get in without one on....unfortunately there's often someone who thinks it doesn't matter. | |||
"Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!? Of course they do, that decision is wholly down to the participants, most importantly the woman. Often when the woman is insisting on condoms, she will/should have a partner watching for anyone trying to get in without one on....unfortunately there's often someone who thinks it doesn't matter." Jeez, in didn't know that. 😬😬😬 | |||
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"Whatever the entry fee, I feel the "realistic expectation" mindset works. Being calm, friendly etc can be an excellent starting point. If playfulness occurs, then great. If not, you may well have discovered a please venue with affable attendees, which can also add to a positive experience. This opinion is different to when I first ventured into clubs as a much younger man..." I never had any illusions or expectations about any of the club visits I did, just went with an open mind to getting a feel for another aspect of this fun side to our lives, after reading so many glowing comments in the forum here. I find myself agreeing with the OP, about the potential of finding the ‘Holy Grail’ of swinger clubs; a pleasant spa type environment, to relax in, and mingle with single ladies. I just don’t feel these exist? Or, certainly not in the North anyway, out of the 8 clubs I’ve been to, and also considering the lack of solo women generally…… Nobody can argue; if you remove all the club reviews from couples, there aren’t many from solo ladies who aren’t club hosts…… | |||
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"Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!? Of course they do, that decision is wholly down to the participants, most importantly the woman. Often when the woman is insisting on condoms, she will/should have a partner watching for anyone trying to get in without one on....unfortunately there's often someone who thinks it doesn't matter." This! It's not up to a club to police the use of condoms, it's up to the club goers. Also, realistically, how are 4, 5 or even 10 members of staff police 100+ people, including in private rooms? They can promote safe sex by offering condoms for free/to buy there but it's physically impossible for staff to be everywhere. Plus, they don't really know who is partnered with whom and are happy to practice bareback with them. | |||
" I never had any illusions or expectations about any of the club visits I did, just went with an open mind to getting a feel for another aspect of this fun side to our lives, after reading so many glowing comments in the forum here. I find myself agreeing with the OP, about the potential of finding the ‘Holy Grail’ of swinger clubs; a pleasant spa type environment, to relax in, and mingle with single ladies. I just don’t feel these exist? Or, certainly not in the North anyway, out of the 8 clubs I’ve been to, and also considering the lack of solo women generally…… Nobody can argue; if you remove all the club reviews from couples, there aren’t many from solo ladies who aren’t club hosts…… "I had the same introduction to it as you did. I also had no expectations or illusions. I'm looking for exactly what you've suggested and for a reasonable fee. I've not found it yet. I've been to 3 clubs. You've been to 8 and not found it? That's sad. Yes... You're right (unfortunately). Nevertheless, I'll keep looking. There is one called Sauna Sauna that nearly hits the mark. However, there were only 2 women there that I remember. | |||
"I would recommend sauna sauna/alchemy mainly a gay sauna but first Friday of month is bi day and also have anyone welcome events throughout the month " I've been there. It was good in terms of facilities but extremely low woman count. I'll try it again though. | |||
"Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!? Of course they do, that decision is wholly down to the participants, most importantly the woman. Often when the woman is insisting on condoms, she will/should have a partner watching for anyone trying to get in without one on....unfortunately there's often someone who thinks it doesn't matter. This! It's not up to a club to police the use of condoms, it's up to the club goers. Also, realistically, how are 4, 5 or even 10 members of staff police 100+ people, including in private rooms? They can promote safe sex by offering condoms for free/to buy there but it's physically impossible for staff to be everywhere. Plus, they don't really know who is partnered with whom and are happy to practice bareback with them. " That's quite scary. All the more reason to make sure you're with a socially strong man is suppose. You have a chance of determining whether he's going to play fair or not. Pretty scary though... | |||
"Clubs allow gangbangs without condoms?!? Of course they do, that decision is wholly down to the participants, most importantly the woman. Often when the woman is insisting on condoms, she will/should have a partner watching for anyone trying to get in without one on....unfortunately there's often someone who thinks it doesn't matter. This! It's not up to a club to police the use of condoms, it's up to the club goers. Also, realistically, how are 4, 5 or even 10 members of staff police 100+ people, including in private rooms? They can promote safe sex by offering condoms for free/to buy there but it's physically impossible for staff to be everywhere. Plus, they don't really know who is partnered with whom and are happy to practice bareback with them. That's quite scary. All the more reason to make sure you're with a socially strong man is suppose. You have a chance of determining whether he's going to play fair or not. Pretty scary though..." Most of the time when I'm in a club, I choose soft swap only (full penetration with the person I came in with). Very, very rarely I am happy to be fucked by a random guy I have just met, but then I do make sure he is wearing a condom. | |||
" Just because it's a "greedy girls" event, it still doesn't mean the women there would fuck anything and everything. I guess the chance is higher on the gangbang type events, where the woman wants a high volume of men. But would you really want to fuck someone who has already been fucked by however many guys, especially if it's a bareback gangbang and she already has a few loads in her? Everyone to their own, and I'm not kink shaming but that's not for me." This is not really representative of the Greedy Girl events (or heavy play) I've been to. All sex I see... and indeed partake in at these events are with a condom. I've only ever seen bare with ppls partners. Now yes I know I don't know what goes on behind closed doors but then how does anyone? Also.....absolutely some ppl like joining in group play and some even like being second or third in the queue. That's the joy of the scene- so many different types of events (Speaking as a picky greedy girl) K | |||
"Hey OP! I host at Alchemy in Northwich and Pandora in Leeds and my events are strictly monitored on ratios as we don't want anyone too overwhelmed from any side, it's all about fun
Appreciate Pandora maybe a bit far although we do have folks attending from all over the UK and sometimes further!
I'm taking a little hosting break at the moment, but I have dates on my profile for both clubs, the guest lists will open approx 6-8 weeks before the event usually and you'd just need to message me to add on
Since I started this thread. I've visited Alchemy, and wow! I'm impressed!
See you there 1st Feb then?
That event costs £40 for a single male. Unfortunately, I'm not willing to part with that amount of money for that - although it does seem fun. I could buy 142 tins of Asda Essentials baked beans for that amount of money!
Seriously though, for that amount of money, I could choose a lady from Facebook dating, ask her out for drinks, pay for everything and just be my charming self!
The only reason I haven't been to Alchemy yet is the single male entry price. Whilst I understand the business reasons for it that kind of discrimination just isn't acceptable. This is supposed to be an inclusive community with respect for all genders.
I saw an event during pride where trans people had to pay more than cis people. It's mad how they tell you to be proud of who you are - but you're still less than a "real" woman.
Yes, but it's nothing personal. It's just business. They use it to offset the lack of women too I've noticed.
However! When I went to Alchemy a few weeks ago, it was £18. It was well worth it too I might add!
The night before I went to partners and that was £15.
It's not all bad.
Well prices aside, there is never a lack of women at my events, very strict on ratios!
Can I ask what ratios you run for your events, and what your average solo guy entry fee is please (you can dm if you prefer)?
I have a ceiling of £50 for an entry fee (I once paid £50 to visit Cupids and enjoyed two cups of tea), and although the Alchemy entry of £18 and Partners entry of £15 sound attractive, to me it just sounds like two quiet nights looking for volume footfall to top the club coffers up, and most probably, unlikely to have any solo women in.....as is the usual scenario in my experience..... "Sorry for the delayed reply, busy girl at the mo!! These are the numbers that turned up to my most recent events and although they were a little quieter than a lot of parties I host/am involved with, they are pretty average ratio wise: Alchemy 32 ladies, 2 trans, 65 couples, 57 guys. Pandora event 42 ladies, 49 men, 76 couples, 3 trans. Men to women don't go above 2:1 ratio | |||
"It's not the ratios that are important in my opinion. It's the low amount of single women. The ratio could be 1:3 but it's no good if there's only 1 woman there. If I'm not into her, it's game over. The ratio could be 15:100... I'd prefer that because then I have some choice. The competition doesn't bother me. Half of them do the looking down, wanking bollocks." Please see my reply above 👆 | |||
"Whatever the entry fee, I feel the "realistic expectation" mindset works. Being calm, friendly etc can be an excellent starting point. If playfulness occurs, then great. If not, you may well have discovered a please venue with affable attendees, which can also add to a positive experience. This opinion is different to when I first ventured into clubs as a much younger man... I never had any illusions or expectations about any of the club visits I did, just went with an open mind to getting a feel for another aspect of this fun side to our lives, after reading so many glowing comments in the forum here. I find myself agreeing with the OP, about the potential of finding the ‘Holy Grail’ of swinger clubs; a pleasant spa type environment, to relax in, and mingle with single ladies. I just don’t feel these exist? Or, certainly not in the North anyway, out of the 8 clubs I’ve been to, and also considering the lack of solo women generally…… Nobody can argue; if you remove all the club reviews from couples, there aren’t many from solo ladies who aren’t club hosts…… "That depends on the club.... Some have been known to fudge their reviews and forum guestlists with the like. | |||
"Whatever the entry fee, I feel the "realistic expectation" mindset works. Being calm, friendly etc can be an excellent starting point. If playfulness occurs, then great. If not, you may well have discovered a please venue with affable attendees, which can also add to a positive experience. This opinion is different to when I first ventured into clubs as a much younger man... I never had any illusions or expectations about any of the club visits I did, just went with an open mind to getting a feel for another aspect of this fun side to our lives, after reading so many glowing comments in the forum here. I find myself agreeing with the OP, about the potential of finding the ‘Holy Grail’ of swinger clubs; a pleasant spa type environment, to relax in, and mingle with single ladies. I just don’t feel these exist? Or, certainly not in the North anyway, out of the 8 clubs I’ve been to, and also considering the lack of solo women generally…… Nobody can argue; if you remove all the club reviews from couples, there aren’t many from solo ladies who aren’t club hosts……
That depends on the club.... Some have been known to fudge their reviews and forum guestlists with the like."The only way to find out what any club is like, is to physically put yourself inside it, and see for yourself. I've done this with several clubs, and found most to be sadly lacking from what they advertise here in the forums.... | |||
" Sorry for the delayed reply, busy girl at the mo!! These are the numbers that turned up to my most recent events and although they were a little quieter than a lot of parties I host/am involved with, they are pretty average ratio wise: Alchemy 32 ladies, 2 trans, 65 couples, 57 guys. Pandora event 42 ladies, 49 men, 76 couples, 3 trans. Men to women don't go above 2:1 ratio "Ahh Hanky! It would be nice to see you again, and amazing to visit a club with no more than 2:1 male:female ratio. Would be great to chat to some ladies in a club for a change lol! Maybe next year I'll get to one of your events? I have to concede, that carefully selected events are the only way for single guys in the club scene... | |||
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" Sorry for the delayed reply, busy girl at the mo!! These are the numbers that turned up to my most recent events and although they were a little quieter than a lot of parties I host/am involved with, they are pretty average ratio wise: Alchemy 32 ladies, 2 trans, 65 couples, 57 guys. Pandora event 42 ladies, 49 men, 76 couples, 3 trans. Men to women don't go above 2:1 ratio
Ahh Hanky! It would be nice to see you again, and amazing to visit a club with no more than 2:1 male:female ratio. Would be great to chat to some ladies in a club for a change lol! Maybe next year I'll get to one of your events? I have to concede, that carefully selected events are the only way for single guys in the club scene... "Hopefully you'll get to one of the upcoming dates on my profile and see for yourself 😉 Assuming I would recognise you though, was a long time ago I bumped into you in a club! Haha | |||
"Whatever the entry fee, I feel the "realistic expectation" mindset works. Being calm, friendly etc can be an excellent starting point. If playfulness occurs, then great. If not, you may well have discovered a please venue with affable attendees, which can also add to a positive experience. This opinion is different to when I first ventured into clubs as a much younger man... I never had any illusions or expectations about any of the club visits I did, just went with an open mind to getting a feel for another aspect of this fun side to our lives, after reading so many glowing comments in the forum here. I find myself agreeing with the OP, about the potential of finding the ‘Holy Grail’ of swinger clubs; a pleasant spa type environment, to relax in, and mingle with single ladies. I just don’t feel these exist? Or, certainly not in the North anyway, out of the 8 clubs I’ve been to, and also considering the lack of solo women generally…… Nobody can argue; if you remove all the club reviews from couples, there aren’t many from solo ladies who aren’t club hosts……
That depends on the club.... Some have been known to fudge their reviews and forum guestlists with the like."Thanks for the info Mrs Panky. | |||
" Sorry for the delayed reply, busy girl at the mo!! These are the numbers that turned up to my most recent events and although they were a little quieter than a lot of parties I host/am involved with, they are pretty average ratio wise: Alchemy 32 ladies, 2 trans, 65 couples, 57 guys. Pandora event 42 ladies, 49 men, 76 couples, 3 trans. Men to women don't go above 2:1 ratio
Ahh Hanky! It would be nice to see you again, and amazing to visit a club with no more than 2:1 male:female ratio. Would be great to chat to some ladies in a club for a change lol! Maybe next year I'll get to one of your events? I have to concede, that carefully selected events are the only way for single guys in the club scene... "Yes. Interesting. I'm planning on going to an interesting event in about 2 weeks. It's a weird event, but it's social based. | |||
"As someone who's visited Townhouse for a long time now I find it far less cliquey than it was its a friendly inviting club. Lots of buddies on hand and tours for newbies. You can break the ice with other new folk. It is cheaper than lots of clubs. And rarely gets dick heavy apart from specific events. Which is why they often sell out the Single male tickets. Don't bring a friend purely means don't just turn up with a load of mates kind of vibe. Bringing a partner is very different. There are nights like last night Newbies and Notsos. The tipsy unicorn etc which are more chilled come and try the place out first type of nights. " I'm going to go to their pub event in 2 weeks or so! | |||
"As someone who's visited Townhouse for a long time now I find it far less cliquey than it was its a friendly inviting club. Lots of buddies on hand and tours for newbies. You can break the ice with other new folk. It is cheaper than lots of clubs. And rarely gets dick heavy apart from specific events. Which is why they often sell out the Single male tickets. Don't bring a friend purely means don't just turn up with a load of mates kind of vibe. Bringing a partner is very different. There are nights like last night Newbies and Notsos. The tipsy unicorn etc which are more chilled come and try the place out first type of nights. " I went to TH 4 times in total, and whilst I was impressed with their setup, and quality of fixtures and fittings (other clubs really are dog-eared in comparison), and did see some amazing sights, I did feel like an outsider, and certainly never made any connections with the regulars. I do however, know it's the only bar on Merseyside I can sit in my boxers and drink in | |||
"As someone who's visited Townhouse for a long time now I find it far less cliquey than it was its a friendly inviting club. Lots of buddies on hand and tours for newbies. You can break the ice with other new folk. It is cheaper than lots of clubs. And rarely gets dick heavy apart from specific events. Which is why they often sell out the Single male tickets. Don't bring a friend purely means don't just turn up with a load of mates kind of vibe. Bringing a partner is very different. There are nights like last night Newbies and Notsos. The tipsy unicorn etc which are more chilled come and try the place out first type of nights. I went to TH 4 times in total, and whilst I was impressed with their setup, and quality of fixtures and fittings (other clubs really are dog-eared in comparison), and did see some amazing sights, I did feel like an outsider, and certainly never made any connections with the regulars. I do however, know it's the only bar on Merseyside I can sit in my boxers and drink in "I've never had a bad time at TH, however, I consider myself to be very sociable, and last time I was unable to break into any social circles. To be fair though, they are pushing social events - they are trying. | |||
"As someone who's visited Townhouse for a long time now I find it far less cliquey than it was its a friendly inviting club. Lots of buddies on hand and tours for newbies. You can break the ice with other new folk. It is cheaper than lots of clubs. And rarely gets dick heavy apart from specific events. Which is why they often sell out the Single male tickets. Don't bring a friend purely means don't just turn up with a load of mates kind of vibe. Bringing a partner is very different. There are nights like last night Newbies and Notsos. The tipsy unicorn etc which are more chilled come and try the place out first type of nights. I went to TH 4 times in total, and whilst I was impressed with their setup, and quality of fixtures and fittings (other clubs really are dog-eared in comparison), and did see some amazing sights, I did feel like an outsider, and certainly never made any connections with the regulars. I do however, know it's the only bar on Merseyside I can sit in my boxers and drink in
I've never had a bad time at TH, however, I consider myself to be very sociable, and last time I was unable to break into any social circles.
To be fair though, they are pushing social events - they are trying."I made a last minute decision to go to newbies last night. It was fucking sick - really busy, nice fun vibe. I couldn't even guess at the ratios but definitely not 2:1 - it also wasn't a dick fest though 🤷♂️ I went with an fwb so granted I didn't go totally solo but I felt like I could chat to enough people, swapped some contact details with a few new people I'd met and then right at the end of the night another girl joined us for a last minute play. It totally depends on what events you go to I think. There is a big BDSM community at TH and they all know each other really really well so if you on a night when it's that crowd it can feel hard to break in. I've been going for a while and know most of them but I still feel like an outsider at times. House party, Newbies and Mosh are probably the ones to start with. If you wanna DM me I'll let you know who runs their discord chat and you can join that to know some people before you go again. | |||
"As someone who's visited Townhouse for a long time now I find it far less cliquey than it was its a friendly inviting club. Lots of buddies on hand and tours for newbies. You can break the ice with other new folk. It is cheaper than lots of clubs. And rarely gets dick heavy apart from specific events. Which is why they often sell out the Single male tickets. Don't bring a friend purely means don't just turn up with a load of mates kind of vibe. Bringing a partner is very different. There are nights like last night Newbies and Notsos. The tipsy unicorn etc which are more chilled come and try the place out first type of nights. I went to TH 4 times in total, and whilst I was impressed with their setup, and quality of fixtures and fittings (other clubs really are dog-eared in comparison), and did see some amazing sights, I did feel like an outsider, and certainly never made any connections with the regulars. I do however, know it's the only bar on Merseyside I can sit in my boxers and drink in
I've never had a bad time at TH, however, I consider myself to be very sociable, and last time I was unable to break into any social circles.
To be fair though, they are pushing social events - they are trying.
I made a last minute decision to go to newbies last night. It was fucking sick - really busy, nice fun vibe. I couldn't even guess at the ratios but definitely not 2:1 - it also wasn't a dick fest though 🤷♂️
I went with an fwb so granted I didn't go totally solo but I felt like I could chat to enough people, swapped some contact details with a few new people I'd met and then right at the end of the night another girl joined us for a last minute play.
It totally depends on what events you go to I think. There is a big BDSM community at TH and they all know each other really really well so if you on a night when it's that crowd it can feel hard to break in. I've been going for a while and know most of them but I still feel like an outsider at times.
House party, Newbies and Mosh are probably the ones to start with.
If you wanna DM me I'll let you know who runs their discord chat and you can join that to know some people before you go again."That's brilliant feedback! I'm pm you now. | |||
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