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It seems that most days there's at least one story about some big company getting hacked despite employing a bunch of people specifically to stop that happening.
So what chance has a swingers club with just a few staff got? And some clubs are moving to online registration which is even riskier.
So sooner or later it's going to happen. What will you do when your name and address is published as a member of your local swingers club? |
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By *bi HaiveMan 21 weeks ago
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I doubt anyone would bother trying to hack a clubs system.
There's no financial gain to be had.
Many don't store data online, only locally. Some don't even bother with membership, which makes me wonder how they got their licences.
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"It seems that most days there's at least one story about some big company getting hacked despite employing a bunch of people specifically to stop that happening.
So what chance has a swingers club with just a few staff got? And some clubs are moving to online registration which is even riskier.
So sooner or later it's going to happen. What will you do when your name and address is published as a member of your local swingers club?"
Not a lot.... I don't think anyone will be that bothered.. and all would have my old address anyway lol |
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"I doubt anyone would bother trying to hack a clubs system.
There's no financial gain to be had.
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Well some people might prefer to pay up, rather than being exposed. And people don't just hack for financial gain - often just for the challenge and publicity. Hack a swingers club and you'd get a LOT of publicity.
I don't think the move to online registration for clubs is very responsible. |
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"I doubt anyone would bother trying to hack a clubs system.
There's no financial gain to be had.
Well some people might prefer to pay up, rather than being exposed. And people don't just hack for financial gain - often just for the challenge and publicity. Hack a swingers club and you'd get a LOT of publicity.
I don't think the move to online registration for clubs is very responsible."
why... they are bound by the same data protection other places have. |
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To be honest, the low level of IT used by most clubs would shield them from being hacked. The majority are effectively using domestic level PCs with a dynamic IP address (one that changes), their internal computer system doesn't have a specific "Web Presence" to target.
All this means that it would be quite hard to actually find their computers to even try to attack them.
If someone did get access yo their systems, the data is still likely to be stored inside a password protected & encrypted database within a "club management" software system.
Ultimately, the potential financial gains to be made from hacking a club's membership list is far too small to make it worth the effort... unless their membership contains celebrities whose career might be damaged by being outed.
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"To be honest, the low level of IT used by most clubs would shield them from being hacked. "
I'd totally agree with you on that. But some clubs seem to be trying to do more online, and I can't help feeling that that will all end in tears.
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A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous. |
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By *bi HaiveMan 21 weeks ago
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous."
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care?  |
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous.
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care? "
Well like the rest of this lifestyle everything is a risk assessment and personal choice over how you chose to done things. It doesn't bother really either way. As I've said I don't thinks there's a lot of added risk to a responsible club holding your data over what is already available through dubious sources. Personally myself and My Girl are members of a fair few clubs. However we are happy to go to well respected non-membership clubs understanding the concerns about people not having to give details as you've pointed out. We trust the judgement of the staff and not seen extra problems than that of a members club. Membership doesn't always seem a particular barrier to unpleasant behaviour. |
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By (user no longer on site) 21 weeks ago
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Thinking about it realistically, if my name was published as a swinger... I think anyone who knows me, would find it shockingly hilarious and yet be jealous at the same time. |
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By *elnkazCouple 20 weeks ago
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous.
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care? "
Well said .. |
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By *ugby 123Couple 20 weeks ago
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"There’s probably more chance of hackers targeting swinging sites like this than there is clubs, yet we’ve all happily joined up"
You don't provide personal details like an address and ID etc to join here |
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous.
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care? "
What about the many thousands of pubs and vanilla night club's that don't require ID? They have incidents and assaults all the time, a nightclub near us had a serious fire and people died. Should they require ID? |
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Do you really think any hacker in the world is hacking some back street swingers club in the UK just to post Sharon from Barnsleys details online to embarrass her amongst her friends and Co workers? Like how paranoid are some people really? SMH 
Also how would Sharon's mates or co workers know where to find the details online that the hacker "exposed"? Where would the hacker put them for everyone to see? Lmao
You do realise every time you sign up for anything ever in life the chances are that's already online? It's already passed through countless companies? Nobody wants your details that you've visited a swingers club a few times, nobody cares enough about you to be doing all that work to embarass you let alone do it to strangers..for what purpose? Humiliation? Revenge? I mean come on take off the tin foil hat and just enjoy life man  |
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous.
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care?
What about the many thousands of pubs and vanilla night club's that don't require ID? They have incidents and assaults all the time, a nightclub near us had a serious fire and people died. Should they require ID?"
Most swingers clubs are private member clubs and their licensing council requires membership.
Personally I prefer a well run club which knows who’s attending. |
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"A lot of people don't realise most of their information and intrests/activities are avaliable on the dark Web already (or with a little connecting the dots from the data). It's incredibly hard to stay private it's more a case of roulette (with favorable odds) that the spotlight is not turned on you.
Not saying don't look after yourself and make it easy. Just most people are far more compromised than they know. So remember to ballance security with having a great time. Life is too short and chances are your compromised already.
Also I guess that is an advantage to clubs like the Attic, Derby. No membership, no details. Just pay entry on the door and stay anonymous.
It does make me nervous when clubs don't take ID or have membership.
Keeping things anonymous make suit those that are paranoid about hacking, are cheating on partners or who don't want a record of them being on the premises.
But clubs need council licences to operate. Part of that is recording who is in the building for health and safety reasons and in case attendees need to be contacted in case of an unwanted and unexpected 'occurrence'.
There have been numerous incidents of assaults at clubs over the years. Imagine how hard it is to track an offender if you've no idea who was in the building? Imagine if there was a fire? No records means no idea who's there, how many or if anyone was missing?
Surely safety overrides any privacy concerns? Or do people honestly just not care?
What about the many thousands of pubs and vanilla night club's that don't require ID? They have incidents and assaults all the time, a nightclub near us had a serious fire and people died. Should they require ID?
Most swingers clubs are private member clubs and their licensing council requires membership.
Personally I prefer a well run club which knows who’s attending. "
Same for us |
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"This is the reason we've stopped going as the local clubs we used to go to started getting anal about wanting to record our details on their database. No thanks!
But you’re on fab …….
😂😂😂😂😂"
To be fair, FAB don't ask for ANY personal data whatsoever. You don't even need to give them your real name or date-of-birth. There's no ID or address requested at ANY point.
Personally, I am more than happy to give clubs my details, and have no concerns about my details being targeted.
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Most cyber attacks are "denial of service" attacks where the aim is to lock down the server/pc and have the owner pay to have them returned to service.
A lot of clubs will only save basic info about the member (name, postcode and email addy). Going to all the effort to get some basic info on the hope that you may get a small amount is not worth the effort.
Go to a club and dont worry about it |
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"To be honest, the low level of IT used by most clubs would shield them from being hacked.
I'd totally agree with you on that. But some clubs seem to be trying to do more online, and I can't help feeling that that will all end in tears.
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Unless you don't do other things online, it isn't going to make any difference! If you shop online or use any popular social media, your details are out there already. If you're worried about people thinking you're a swinger, a club being hacked should be less worrying than having a Fab profile with pics or entering a club or meeting in public. 🤷♂️ |
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By *bi HaiveMan 20 weeks ago
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What about the many thousands of pubs and vanilla night club's that don't require ID? They have incidents and assaults all the time, a nightclub near us had a serious fire and people died. Should they require ID?"
Most pubs, bars and nightclubs have internal CCTV which helps in terms of the potential for assaults and unwanted behaviour. Swinging clubs don't. There's also no private, sometimes lockable rooms in pubs/vanilla nightclubs, nor people indulging in nakedness and casual sex with strangers. The two aren't directly comparable from a safety aspect, although in the event of a fire I'm sure emergency services would be grateful for a list of who's in the building. A doorman with a head count clicker is unlikely to be accurate. |
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What about the many thousands of pubs and vanilla night club's that don't require ID? They have incidents and assaults all the time, a nightclub near us had a serious fire and people died. Should they require ID?
Most pubs, bars and nightclubs have internal CCTV which helps in terms of the potential for assaults and unwanted behaviour. Swinging clubs don't. There's also no private, sometimes lockable rooms in pubs/vanilla nightclubs, nor people indulging in nakedness and casual sex with strangers. The two aren't directly comparable from a safety aspect, although in the event of a fire I'm sure emergency services would be grateful for a list of who's in the building. A doorman with a head count clicker is unlikely to be accurate. "
Every club I've been to has had CCTV in all of the social areas & corridors. Pubs & night clubs also still have areas without camera coverage, especially toilets. |
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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago
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Watch Ashley Madison on Netflix , no financial gain just a moral crusade . The leak drove people to suicide .
Us ? We don't publisise the fact we are Swingers but if it got out there’s not much you can do . 10% of the people we know would frown upon it and probably never talk to us again , the other 90% would be jealous their relationships aren’t as strong or fun filled as ours 🤣 |
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lol. I’ll have a nose tonight, makes sense some people have more to lose than others. Ashley Maddison, was predominantly a cheating website though, so people know what’s at stake there! Great cum shot pic btw!!!! Expert timing ! |
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