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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It has nothing to do with fairness as I am sure there are lots of guys out there who may work but are on low income and also couldn't afford it. Don't forget divorced guys who maybe have two households to keep, they couldn't afford it either.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

They charge what the men are willing to pay. I know it is unfair but if there are men out there willing to pay £70 to join then the clubs will carry on charging it. Having said that Isis in Leeds only charges £25 to join. I spend more than that on a night in the pub!

Funnily enough I noticed there are several clubs in London that charge the same for single women and couples as they do for single men. I wonder if it affects the numbers in any way.

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

I really think it should be a flat fee for everyone with stricter rules.x

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I really think it should be a flat fee for everyone with stricter rules.x"

And whats likely to happen is that when they charge more for females and couples the females and couples will stop coming and it will just be single men whinging that there are no females and couples.

Unfortunately there's no upside for that sort of thing.

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By *atasha_DavidCouple over a year ago

Slough

Simple supply and demand.

Lots of single guys willing to pay, Unicorns (single females) given very cheap entry as they increase the rates payed by single men.

Couples somewhere in-between depending on tastes and orientation.

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

It seems that way. Swinging is for couples, single girls and men who can afford it it seems,x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Im sure there are plenty of places you would like to go same as me, but cant always afford it, would you expect an expensive restautant to put their prices down for you or maybe theatre tickets. We should live within our means.

If your on a limited income maybe put a £5 by each week and then when youve saved enough go as a treat.

Its always going to be cheaper for women/couples in swinging as its supply and demand.

Unfortunate for some.

Try going to a club social, usually if its an organized event they waiver the joining fee for the night and just charge you entrance fee if your part of a large party. They are always advertised in the meets and parties section

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And the person employed to conduct extensive interviews and compile stricter rules would need to be paid a wage, thus increasing membership fee further to pay the wages? Disability is, with all due respect, irrelevant. There are unemployed people that go, people on low incomes etc, it's the same with everything in life, if you can't afford it, you don't do it.

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x

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By *urekaPartiesCouple over a year ago

FAWKHAM

Not all clubs charge an annual or "lifetime" membership and not all clubs charge horrendous amounts to single guys and not all clubs stop single men attending on the best party nights(Saturdays)

But it is up to the single guys to go and find the clubs that have the best attitudes, i am afraid and while they are happy to pay, in my opinion, vastly inflated sums then most clubs will continue to charge them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So, the only way you can enjoy yourself is to go to swinging clubs in the vain hope of getting a shag? Do you think everyone on here goes to swinging clubs every weekend, every hour they are not working or looking after families? Are you really that deluded? Quit with the 'woe is me' attitude, save a few quid each week like the rest of us. believe it or not,not everyone on FAB is a millionare who lead lavish lifestyles and are able to afford everything they desire. Man up or ship out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Life isn't fair, if it was instead of a Suzuki in front of my house there'd be a Bentley on the drive! I think it's unfair that Bentley's have priced me out of their product.

Now if it was Thames Water...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it's really unfair that Ferrari charge so much for their cars, it's almost as if they only want rich prople driving them, wgen I think they should make their cars available to people on low incomes. Waaaaaa boo hoo."
lol

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Like minds!

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

What did I do?

Anyway, disability isn't the only restricting lifestyle. Single parenthood? Carer? Just not enough spare cash? Swinging clubs, like smoking and drinking, are not considered essential to life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally i have no real interest in going to a club but consider this for a moment if any organisation charged more for females than men the uproar there would be on the sexism from front let alone the fact as far as i knowits illegal to charge different amounts based on gender.

As said not bothered about going to clubs but something is wrong.

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By *artsnikCouple over a year ago

wortley

There is infusion blackpool no membership required wed or thurs a few clubs do have non members nights

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Xotix Xtreme also do social nights where its guest list only so you dont have to be a member. Why dont you check them out. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Perhaps the government could do something like a swinging allowance or swinging tax credits

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By *imal75Man over a year ago

Wolverhampton

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By *ittletonCplCouple over a year ago

cannock

Why not challenge them on sexual discrimination ? Just a thought ....

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By *oulou45Woman over a year ago

Bucks

"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x "
please for 1 minute don't think I'm havin a dig at you,as I'm not. I work full time and do a 2nd job I'm lucky if I can afford 1 night out a mth. We are all struggling.

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By *kmale421Man over a year ago

wirral

This comment Mr TeddyBear seems to suggest that some of the posters aren't giving you the sympathy you feel you deserve in the terms of club prices/membership fees and the fact you have a disability.

Whether or not you have a disability is irrelevant to this debate, as it's simply a case of affordability to go into a club as a single male.

I work full time, and yet I can't afford to go to clubs with the frequency that I would like to. There's a valid argument about whether clubs should or shouldn't charge different rates for men, women and couples, but it's unlikely to change unless someone somewhere eventually challanged a club through a court and won, and even if that was the case, there would be many loopholes that could be exploited.

You also say you conducted an extensive search of clubs membership fees for single guys, but in addition to the clubs mentioned in this thread, there's also Atlantis in Stoke that doesn't charge a membership fee to any sex or combination of, thus your initial point has been proven to be wrong in the first place.

Swinging is a hobby in it's many variations, some of that includes going to clubs, some is going to various socials which are all free and some is meeting in hotels or peoples homes/pubs. Some involves travel, some doesn't but all of it involves cost and that inevitably excludes some people from taking part unless they are willing to save up and perhaps give up something else.

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By *andcCouple over a year ago

London and Cheshire

"Why not challenge them on sexual discrimination ? Just a thought ...."

Don't think it is covered, private clubs can have different memberships..like golf clubs men ONLY full membership and women associate membership etc.

There are many exception like the Women institute, this is exempt because it's an educational charity.

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By *enandlisaCouple over a year ago

Burnley'ish

"Why not challenge them on sexual discrimination ? Just a thought ...."

What a fantastic thought!

Yes, lets drag the whole swinging scene through the courts so its front page news in every daily paper and have undercover reporters knocking on the door of every swinging club in the UK to try and rustle up enough sleaze to satisfy the readers.

Sex sells, think back to Tommy Sheridan with his alledged visit to Cupids in 2001, Stan Collymore with his late night dogging jaunts in 2004, and in recent years The Krankies outing themselves as swingers. All made the daily papers, some making more prominent headlines than others, but all followed weeks later with sensational spreads highlighting what immoral people swingers are.

I'm sure that the owners of the UK's swinging clubs will be right behind you.

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By *wingsnroundaboutsCouple over a year ago

Manchester

You wouldn't be able to challenge it legally. A private club can charge what it wants to whoever it wants. This is true of everywhere from the dirtiest nastiest nightclub to the most exclusive private members club in mayfair.

As others have suggested, if you can't afford it, don't do it, it's a luxury, and don't give me the "you don't understand" crap, I've been on both sides of the fence in financial terms. Luckily now we're doing well. As somebody else said, ferrari have prices them out of the market. That's life, if you can't afford it, go without it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i've been to both infusions & connections on a regular basis, both are fine clubs, but connections has the edge so far, no membership fee, and a gorgeous new orgy room, but like others have said I couldn't afford it every week, save up and make it a special night out.

be back soon chris

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm inclined to agree with the majority on here. It's an expensive game for everyone involved we are in the lucky position that we can currently afford to go and have a good time whenever we can hard work permitting. However if that situation changed then going to clubs would be one of the first things to cut back on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP makes a good point! .. Interviews for everyone that wants to be a member of a club is a good idea! It would help with security and keep away the wrong sort of people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can anyone explain how and when these interviews would take place ???

Who decides if a couple or a single person is suitable ???

What criteria would you use to decide if they were OK to join ???

How many people would be happy to be told they need to attend for an interview, before they can join a club ???

Prices may not be fair, but then again neither are most things in life.

I would love a nice new Merc. every six months, but its out of my price range unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The club we go to conduct interviews over the phone for single guys. Not sure what they ask or if they also require a picture?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't mean to sound uncaring here but....single guys pay X amt to get in...well, we're a couple with a young child so if we want to go out, we pay the cost of the club PLUS the cost of a sitter so any one night we go we're paying more than the single guy overall...do you hear us whinging about it? Nope. We do it when we can afford it or as a treat. Stop whining, put some cash back each week and go when you can.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The club we go to conduct interviews over the phone for single guys. Not sure what they ask or if they also require a picture?

Maybe the guy would not be honest on the telephone though.Especially if he had been refused once as unsuitable.

After all how many fake profile have you heard of, and not just this site.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

I am a single mum with no transport so for me to go to a club even though I'd get cheaper/free entry the cost of a baby sitter and travel there and back would be way more the entry fee for single guy. So I just don't go. It's crap but there's no point moaning about it coz it's just the way it is. My money for my home/son and every day life comes first. If there's any left ill use is for other things but the last time that happened was November!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutley agree with most on here.. Cant afford it, dont/cant have it, simples!

We work but there is still lots of things we'd love to buy or do but cant, as funds don't stretch etc.

As someone rightly said, put a bit by each week and save up, then use it as a treat.. You obviously can afford a computer and internet connection, so not alls lost ey

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

great value if you ask me...

If the OP and I went out on a Saturday to watch the rugby, ate out, then went on a mini pub crawl, with food and Taxi money we would do ?100 each easy, if not more.

Also the clubs have overheads and should be allowed to charge what they want. Clubs like VA and The Lodge are amazing value for money for a night out.

If it wasn't for perverts like Debs and Stu or those at VA, perverts like us wouldn't have anywhere to go !

So next time you are in church on a Sunday asking (begging) for forgiveness and that donation plate comes round, can I suggest you dig deep..

Frankly for my sins at Saturdays private party in Bristol I'm going to need to dig very deep indeed....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Do you really think that mr and mrs average go to swinging clubs all the while. Most peole have to live within there means, yes some have more money than others. I wouldnt be able to go clubbing everyweek what with a new outfit and everything.

Along with a lot of people swingin comess after everything else is taken care of.

It sounds as though you are trying to play a victim here. Doesnt matter if your disabled, for all yu know you could be better of than a young family.

Whats wrong with good old fashioned saving up for treats

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well all of us have internet here to be able to get on Fab in the first place - that alone is a luxury many dont have - so when we say we have no money not really true is it - i have been in that position many years ago and was literally starving til a friend gave me a couple of carrier bags of food and essentials - never forgot that deed and vowed to do the same to others if i ever could - have done a couple of times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!

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By *enandlisaCouple over a year ago

Burnley'ish

Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!"

Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!"

Power to the people!!!!

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By *un_JuiceCouple over a year ago

Nr Chester

Anyone fancy a shag?

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!

Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari."

Well if we can put orders in that Bentley Continental...pretty please...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

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By *ub bbwWoman over a year ago

oldbury

We go fairly often to a local club but if we go out for a drink wevwould spend more on drinks than on admission I know a few single guys who go who just go once every couple of months. They save up for it there is no need to live beyond your means also check that the clubs are suitable for someone with a disability as our local club is on 3floors so depending if you have physical disability may not be accessible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Actually I have sympathy with the OP. As a single fem I can go to greedy girls night at my local club and all it costs is a couple of quid for fuel, and maybe a soft drink (£1 per drink). Admission is free for single women.

I'm a student, I can't afford the sort of entertaining budget mentioned on here, and to be honest if I had to pay loads I wouldn't go at all.

So it is unfair that I can go cheaply but a single guy can't, however I can't see a solution to the problem while more men than women want NSA sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The equality laws do apply to all business' if they are a private members club it makes no difference. It is illegal to charge different rates on the grounds of sex, race or sexual orientation. They are even considering making it illegal to give discounts to OAPS and Students as this would be age discrimination.

Before anyone points to private members clubs in London most of these are different in that the members actually own a part of the club and so they are exempt from most of the rules.

However as far as i know no one has legally challenged a club regarding the entry prices and until they do the price structure will remain the same.

I don't agree with the people saying about Ferrari's etc you are missing the point...if Ferrari said for a women we charge £250,000 but men pay £300,000 then that would be the same as the clubs are doing...its not the amount its the fact that men pay more and in some clubs they charge ridiculous amounts, such as AbFabs. For those reading this who think well dont go then, firstly i dont lol but secondly if men pay £60 or £70 to get in then they are going to think that they are onto a sure thing and will be more hassle for couples and single women. In fact i know this has happened at clubs as i have been at one where two guys were thrown out for being pests and not taking no for an answer and they both said with the amount they paid they thought we would able to get some action.

But as it is now, if you dont want to pay find a club that wont rip you off..they do exist !

"You wouldn't be able to challenge it legally. A private club can charge what it wants to whoever it wants. This is true of everywhere from the dirtiest nastiest nightclub to the most exclusive private members club in mayfair.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your profile states you don't accommodate, would you be prepared to pay hotel costs instead of club fees?

One hotel room, one meet = £40 plus.

One club entrance, potentially multiple playmates, Jacuzzi, steam room and various other facilities = £35ish

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The equality laws do apply to all business' if they are a private members club it makes no difference. It is illegal to charge different rates on the grounds of sex, race or sexual orientation. They are even considering making it illegal to give discounts to OAPS and Students as this would be age discrimination.

Before anyone points to private members clubs in London most of these are different in that the members actually own a part of the club and so they are exempt from most of the rules.

However as far as i know no one has legally challenged a club regarding the entry prices and until they do the price structure will remain the same.

But as it is now, if you dont want to pay find a club that wont rip you off..they do exist !

I think you've missed the point somewhat too.

The OP made it sound like he was being priced out of life's essentials - like water, hence my remark about Thames Water.

Sex clubs are not essentials, and with all luxuries, most of us save for it, but there is a minority that have a sense of entitlement.

If charging men more is against the law why don't these same men make a legal challenge...I won't hold my breath!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Were a young couple with young kids on a single income with no help from the benefits system and so far have not had the available cash to go to clubs but when we do decide we want to go we will save up, just like many people on here have to do.

If you don't want to pay the entrance fees then just don't go. Swinging clubs are a luxury and if you can't afford it then go without.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So by that logic is it fair that I can't afford to eat at michelin starred restaurants every weekend because i'm a student? A swingers club isnt a right or a necessity it is a luxury.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have you seen the price of tickets at Chelsea? some weeks I can't afford it so I go to Welling United instead. And kids get in cheaper there? What's that all about?

some weeks its even worse and I'm totally potless so we just stay at home and whine about stuff

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"Have you seen the price of tickets at Chelsea? some weeks I can't afford it so I go to Welling United instead. And kids get in cheaper there? What's that all about?

some weeks its even worse and I'm totally potless so we just stay at home and whine about stuff"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've recently just started attending a club, 100 first time with membership then 30 every visit after.

I work full time but have bills to pay and these come first if I could I would attend every week but I can't, so tr and go Atleast once a month.

Now a 70 pound membership might sound steep but the £30 entrance fee. I think is fine, especially for the facilities you get, jacuzzi, showers, sauna, steam room, reasonable drink prices, get to meet and chat to nice people

If I went out on a Saturday night I would easily spend £100 on entrance to clubs and extortionate drink prices and wake up with a horrible hangover

Yes single males have to pay more, but I don't see a problem with that, in my opinion if single men wernt charged more then clubs would be over run with guys and then we would all loose out

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By *hristeresa12Couple over a year ago

Totnes

Interesting thread! As commercial party organisers we've always personally had a problem with the ethics of charging different rates for males and females. Whilst our parties are now only for couples, we used to run a mid week party for couples and singles. Cost was £20 for couples, £10 for single females and £10 for single males so every single person paid the same and that is the only fair and ethical way to do it. To our way of thinking if the entry for single females (or couples for that matter) is subsidised by the higher price demanded from single guys then that is tantamount to pimping. Trouble is that as long as single guys are prepared to be striped up then clubs will continue to do it, lot of truth in the old adage that fanny will pull you further than dynamite can blow you!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Indeed. Come the revolution comrades there will be swinging for all in our sexy socialist state!

Fuck the cheap swinging........i want a Ferrari.

Well if we can put orders in that Bentley Continental...pretty please...

A very nice one drove past me today. Made me smile as I thought about this thread

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine

"Thanks for suggesting Connection, It looks a nice club. As for the rest of it with the attitude of people. I hope you're never in the situation where you can't go out and enjoy yourself. I really mean that.x "
ive actually read back and cant see any comments with attitude

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By *ruitWoman over a year ago

near kings lynn

I generally only get child free time to meet and attend clubs once a month. This is not something that makes me happy but something I have to live with x

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

We are a new couple to swinging and were nervous about our visit to a club

We decided to go on a couples and single fem only night as felt we would be more comfortable with other couples

Most couples go to clubs to have fun with other couples and socialise the last thing we would want is to be followed around a club by a load of horny single guys

We both want to enjoy the night as a couple

And also a lot of the guys that visit clubs alone also have wives at home they are only after extra stuff

The prices of clubs reflect who visits the clubs most and what they are into we can't afford to visit every week as with any outside activity it's a luxury which has to be paid for which we have to save to do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We are a new couple to swinging and were nervous about our visit to a club

We decided to go on a couples and single fem only night as felt we would be more comfortable with other couples

Most couples go to clubs to have fun with other couples and socialise the last thing we would want is to be followed around a club by a load of horny single guys

We both want to enjoy the night as a couple

And also a lot of the guys that visit clubs alone also have wives at home they are only after extra stuff

I think you have made a couple of huge assumptions there, one that "most" couples go to clubs only to play with other couples and that "a lot" of the guys that go are married and are there without the knowledge of their partners. There are of course plenty of couples that feel the way you do, but also plenty that go partly or solely to meet and play with single guys and so appreciate their presence. My partner and I will happily play with both couples and singles if the chemistry is right at the time. And yes I am sure there are married/attached guys that attend , but there are also lot's of men that are genuinely single and enjoy the club environment and know how to behave appropriately.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

Sorry if we have it wrong but by looking at people's profiles on this site most couples are looking for couples or single fems and most single girls are looking for couples or single fems

We are not saying single guys shouldn't be there that's why we chose a couples only night but even though they have to pay more its still a cheap night out if they get what there after

What we were trying to say is its not just the singles guys who struggle to finance there nights out we all do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry if we have it wrong but by looking at people's profiles on this site most couples are looking for couples or single fems and most single girls are looking for couples or single fems

We are not saying single guys shouldn't be there that's why we chose a couples only night but even though they have to pay more its still a cheap night out if they get what there after

What we were trying to say is its not just the singles guys who struggle to finance there nights out we all do "

so the straight single girls should pay higher than the single bisexual women? or bisexual men should pay less than the straight???..sorry I didnt get the sense there lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We attend clubs and events that are £10 or £15 per person regardless of sexuality or gender and no membership fee,s

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple over a year ago

walsall

Not saying that

Just prices keep the numbers down to what a club caters for

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not saying that

Just prices keep the numbers down to what a club caters for

I was just teasing

but theres a double edged sword isnt there?

making single men pay more(sometimes extortionately more) often gives the impression that they should expect a little 'more' for their money

I'd at least have a wank in an open room where theres play if I'd paid possibly £40 to get into ffs lol

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I wish I hadn't opened my mouth now, It seems there will always be the divide of "those who have" and "those who want" my perspective come from being disabled and unable to work, I can't work overtime, I'll never own a house I can just about survive on what I have, but it seems those who can afford it come accross as being of the opinion that its just "tough" no money no fun, I don't have a problem saving for what I want, I just have a problem with exploitation, x"

i dont think its those with money saying tough - ive no money and just accept that what i would like i cant have - some weeks i can barely afford to eat and i work -

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont think youve read the comments properly then! The ones ive been reading have all been from people saying that they are in similar financial positions and that they dont expect to be handed things on a plate just because they have a lower income (as i do at the moment).

Its also absurd of you to claim that you should get some sort of disability discount for clubs and keep mentioning it when really your original point was about the "extortion" of single males and your disability is irrelevant to your argument.

Also, swinging is just that-some form of play between couples. When i was a single female on here i was constantly reminded that i was not a swinger-and they'd be right! Single males and females are welcome in the swinging world but they'd be quite within their rights to ban the lot of us, seeing as singles playing by themselves dont really fit into that category.

Like people have said-do what the rest of us do and cut down on other luxuries, put that saved money in a pot and wait until you have enough.

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

where did i put i expect a discount for being disabled? i expect everyone to have to pay a reasonable price, maybe you should read whats been written before you open your mouth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its what you were implying. Ive read all the posts, and you were definately giving the impression that it was unfair of clubs to charge you full price because you were unable to work because of your situation. I dont believe i got anything wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP makes a good point! .. Interviews for everyone that wants to be a member of a club is a good idea! It would help with security and keep away the wrong sort of people."

The wrong sort according to who?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

I really don't see how an interview will help. Anyone can turn up all clean and well presented and put on a show to get a membership doesn't mean they won't act like a pillock once they're in.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually do what the rest of us have to do... budget...

if I want a holiday for example... I have to budget...

the car I am driving now.... budget...

weekend away... guess..... budget

you may not be able to go as often as you want... but save 5-10 pounds every so often and you'll get there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i dont think it should be same price for males coz it will just be full of men n swingers clubs wouldn last that long. i dont mind paying the extra, sometimes my fem buddy comes with me aswell, it would just be a cock fest lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Make it free for all single guys... 500 blokes all wanking and us couples will go round the corner in peace ..Just a thought lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Make it free for all single guys... 500 blokes all wanking and us couples will go round the corner in peace ..Just a thought lol"
lol hahaha x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i dont think its those with money saying tough - ive no money and just accept that what i would like i cant have - some weeks i can barely afford to eat and i work - "

I have two jobs as I am paying off debts. My second job is shifts in a pub, due to the after Christmas period, I have had an hour shaved off two of my shifts which means what's left barely covers the petrol and I am leaving my day job early so that I can get home and walk to the second job to save money, not much fun at 10 pm I can tell you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've just spent a couple of hours going through the membership fee's of swingers clubs, for single guys its ridiculous. I know they're so high to deter guys so its not all single guys harassing the woman but why not have an interview and a list of stricter rules for the guys too keep them inline. I'm a disabled guy and my income doesn't run to the costs they're asking for. Is it fair that I'm excluded because I can't work to afford what they're asking?.x"
Sorry to sound harsh but yes it is fair, I and my wife work long hrs in our jobs, but could never afford a 6 bedroom house with his n her cars and an inside pool is that fair yes it is these clubs offer a service and need to be paid for. Have you any idea what it cost to run these clubs or ever thought about NO you ain't save up and go and stop winging

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By *agna Cum LaudeMan over a year ago

Laudable

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think.the op really needs to get his own house in order........

Moaning about money yet is a gold supporter on here???? Is Fab one of your main priorities in life?

I see you are from.wigan......have you not tried connections in Blackpool ....... same price for couples and single males......

Obviously you haven't done too much research

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

work to afford what they're asking?.x"
if you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers

club, may I ask why you cannot work?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

work to afford what they're asking?.xif you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers

club, may I ask why you cannot work? "
NO you can't because like. Few of disabled people they think they are owed everything in life, sorry but had to get that off my chest, and yes I understand there is lots out there that do work

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

Petulance in adults is very unattractive!

You appear to think your disability entitles you to a discount, if that's not what you mean, my apologies.

The fact of the matter is we're ALL in the same boat of "have" and "want". I'm not living on the breadline but I "have" to work but "want" to sail the seven seas, first class all the way.

No matter how hard I stamp my size 8s...I'll just have to want!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Petulance in adults is very unattractive!

You appear to think your disability entitles you to a discount, if that's not what you mean, my apologies.

The fact of the matter is we're ALL in the same boat of "have" and "want". I'm not living on the breadline but I "have" to work but "want" to sail the seven seas, first class all the way.

No matter how hard I stamp my size 8s...I'll just have to want!"
you work that's disgraceful

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By *he tunnelsCouple over a year ago

newport

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

It's not just a UK thing. It is pretty much the same in the rest of Europe. For example: Our favourite club in Germany charges 10 euro for a single fem, 75 for a couple, and an eye watering 130 for a single guy.

To be fair the price includes free bar and extensive buffet, so it doesn't work out too expensive for a couple, and there are always enough (but not too many) single guys there.

While price and quality varies from club to club generally the system is the same in all of the clubs we go to, including in Spain, France, and Holland.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And if you don't get a shag you can always get pissed and stuff your face

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"And if you don't get a shag you can always get pissed and stuff your face "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm picking up a sense of entitlement from the op. What if no one plays with you when you get in?

What will you blame that on?

The single guys we have met on Club nights have been nothing but polite and fully respectful and I do not ever subscribe to any single guy bashing threads in a negative way. They never moan about their lot just get on with it! A quality we respect.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I can just about survive on what I have "

Less whining and be grateful that you even have that as a starter.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I suppose the clubs are between a rock and a hard place on this one. They could make the prices equal but that would increase the number of single guys which could (and probably would) reduce the number of couples. As someone else said earlier in the thread, which single guy wants to go to a club to stand there complaining to other single guys that there are no couples?

The other alternative would be to restrict the number of singles on the night, but how would they administer it? It wouldn't be nice driving 50 miles to go to a club and find out you are number 11 when the limit is 10, or to turn up and be told "sorry you are not good looking enough"

Also the club has to pay its bills and yes make a few quid as well, so equal price with a numbers limit on singles would almost certainly push up the price for everyone.

The current way isn't perfect, and we can understand why some are unhappy with it, but we think it's about as good as it gets.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I can just about survive on what I have

Less whining and be grateful that you even have that as a starter."
get another job then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just have it so the number of single guys is restricted and they have to book in advance then noone would be dissapointed! simple and it works in a certain club we go to

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OUCH!!! FOR A LIGHTER SIDE TO THIS THREAD....

STILL... MAY BE THE CLUBS SHOULD DO MORE TOGETHER AND THE GET BEHIND EACH OTHER CLUB ON BEHALF OF THE SITE AND STOP BICKERING BETWEEN THEM SELVES SUPPORT CUSTOMERS AND SUPPORT OTHER CLUBS MAY BE AN AFFILIATION CARD FOR CUSTOMERS OR GET A DISCOUNT CARD FOR LOYALTIES

LIKE...

DO YOU HAVE A SWINGERS BONUS CARD POINTS MAKE PRIZES

LIKE WHEN YOU GO SHOPPIN

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

who as two cars these days jeese ..one is a bonus

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who as two cars these days jeese ..one is a bonus

Exactly!..we've had 2 cars as needed 2 cars for work, with both working. We have had to downsize to one car and re-adjust our employment even, to fit in with the economic climate. From having new BMW's and Mercedes, we are now down to a 4 year old Ford Focus in less than 18 months! Cloth well and truly cut!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I gave up my season ticket utmp to swing oh and my [ex] priorities as we know...

but it is a struggle "but things can only get better"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OUCH!!! FOR A LIGHTER SIDE TO THIS THREAD....

LIKE...

DO YOU HAVE A SWINGERS BONUS CARD POINTS MAKE PRIZES

LIKE WHEN YOU GO SHOPPIN"
The RBL swingers club please have your CIU cards on you at all times, on behalf of the Committee

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm still looking for the light at the end of the tunnel

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

could put loyalty points on my nectar card

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"could put loyalty points on my nectar card"
or offer 5p off a litre of fuel when you visit the club twice in a month

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On a more serious note there is a choice you don't have to GO you are not forced to go and pay, stop at home put on a porn dvd and Bob's your uncle

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

this may sound harsh but as with all things.. if you can t afford it, don t go. simple. you do have rhat choice. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's simple economics and maths.

If the clubs charge less for men and more for women and couples then, as has already been pointed out, this would drastically slash the amount of women and couples attending but greatly increase the amount of men.

This then has serious knock on effects, females/couples who would attend on a whim and frequently will now limit their visits to every so often (The same as most males). Therefore the chance of hooking up with anybody greatly decreases. Some women go nearly every day, do you think they'd do this if they had to pay?

This would then lead to most clubs struggling financially as many males too would stop attending. Again as someone else has already mentioned, it ain't cheap to run these clubs.

Also, in the area you live in you've got a dearth of decent clubs in easy reach.

Clubs like Adam and Eve's are about £50 membership for year (Save up a quid a week!) and £20 entry. Factor in that you can take your own beer and food in, can use all facilities etc., it's much cheaper than a night in the pub and very good value in my eyes, especially compared to alternative entertainment like football, cinema etc.

So dust yourself down, save a few quid a month and get yourself organised.

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By *otlovefun42Couple over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"It's simple economics and maths.

This would then lead to most clubs struggling financially as many males too would stop attending. Again as someone else has already mentioned, it ain't cheap to run these clubs.

Also, in the area you live in you've got a dearth of decent clubs in easy reach.

So dust yourself down, save a few quid a month and get yourself organised.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

LIKE ME IM LOOKING TO CAR SHARE WITH SEXY PEOPLE AND GET TO CLUBS BY SHARING COST WITH FEMALES OR BLOKES FUEL COSTS AND GOING IN AS COUPLE AS FRENDS[TO THE LADIES]

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"LIKE ME IM LOOKING TO CAR SHARE WITH SEXY PEOPLE AND GET TO CLUBS BY SHARING COST WITH FEMALES OR BLOKES FUEL COSTS AND GOING IN AS COUPLE AS FRENDS[TO THE LADIES]"

The caps lock button is on the left hand edge of the keyboard

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

To be honest I think its hilarious half of the things people have brought up. I couldn't give a toss what any of you think. We all have reasons for bitching about things, "I can't have because", I was bitching about my opinion towards entry fees, whether you like it or not my opinion is what it is, and whether I like it or not, your opinion is yours and we all have a right to them, x

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"just have it so the number of single guys is restricted and they have to book in advance then noone would be dissapointed! simple and it works in a certain club we go to"

This i agree with alot more than just over charging single guys,x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

work to afford what they're asking?.xif you are able bodied enough to get to, from and around a swingers

club, may I ask why you cannot work? "

You can ask whatever you want. Thats the great thing about forums.x

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

Lol then why are you on this thread commenting then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The fact that you asked the question means you probably give a toss what people think. And that you felt you now have to go back through the thread quoting people more so.

It started an interesting debate that reinforced the status quo. I congratulate you on that.

Now I'm off to have sex with my beautiful woman. Have a good night.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

you can't afford to go o

Lol then why are you on this thread commenting then?

"
just passing the time until ‘‘call the midwife‘‘ starts

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"The fact that you asked the question means you probably give a toss what people think. And that you felt you now have to go back through the thread quoting people more so.

It started an interesting debate that reinforced the status quo. I congratulate you on that.

Now I'm off to have sex with my beautiful woman. Have a good night. "

Goodnight, and enjoy.xxx

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"This post did not go the way the OP wanted!

you can't afford to go o

Lol then why are you on this thread commenting then?

just passing the time until ‘‘call the midwife‘‘ starts

Thats a pretty good reason actually. I'm going to geek out and watch "Avengers Assemble".x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think using the word 'exploitation' to describe this scenario is a little bit too much. I would describe 8 year old girls being smuggled into countries to be used in illegal sex industries as exploitation but not this. Yes, it is a lot of money but looking at other posts though it doesnt seem like uve done a lot of homework either.

Id like to take my family on holiday this year but cant afford it so hey ho. Maybe next year.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the thing is i can understand why men think they get a raw deal having to pay more but on the otherside in our experience the current pricing system seems to work.

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By *aster of a mindCouple over a year ago

York

i don't know if this has alrady been said but get a fuck buddy and get a couple membership.....hey presto money saved and a guaranteed shag

Good luck

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"i don't know if this has alrady been said but get a fuck buddy and get a couple membership.....hey presto money saved and a guaranteed shag

Good luck

Thats good idea, i am actually looking into it, hopefully I'll find 1 soon. Thanks,x

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

"I think using the word 'exploitation' to describe this scenario is a little bit too much. I would describe 8 year old girls being smuggled into countries to be used in illegal sex industries as exploitation but not this. Yes, it is a lot of money but looking at other posts though it doesnt seem like uve done a lot of homework either.

Id like to take my family on holiday this year but cant afford it so hey ho. Maybe next year.

Good luck

That's kidnapping, slavery, rape, sexual assault, Illegal smuggling and yes the sexual "exploitation" of a minor, but the word "exploitation" does fit just as well into my view of the majority of clubs pricing system.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Id like to take my family on holiday this year but cant afford it so hey ho. Maybe next year.

Good luck

Yes but you are still not getting the point, if the pricing structure was changed then most clubs would go under in no time, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Instead it would be moans about why there aren't any clubs.

It's like cheap holidays, they're only viable to the holiday companies because they are being propped up by the sky high prices charged during school holidays.

Thankfully I don't have any kids but the ones who do have little option these days.

Any business has to cover it's overheads the best way possible and whilst I agree that both scenarios appear unfair, they are what they are because that is what to be found to be workable.

Look at the big picture, not just how it affects you (And I for that matter)

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By *lackCherryCouple over a year ago

Bristol

The simple fact is swinging is propped up in a financial sense by single men. Clubs have to get single females and couples through the door so they have to offer them a lower rate they offset this by charging a higher price to men.

The higher pricing for men acts as the money maker for clubs as a result.

If you don't like it, don't go to swinging clubs they are optional extra in life and if you cannot afford to go then I would suggest not going.

As for "fairness" ? life isnt fair its a bit of a short and sharp answer but its the truth of the matter.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Even with the pricing structure as it is, the number of men heavily outweighs the number of women. If it were changed then they would probably provide a similar experience of being sat in Wetherspoon's, dressed only in a towel

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By *lackCherryCouple over a year ago

Bristol

"Even with the pricing structure as it is, the number of men heavily outweighs the number of women. If it were changed then they would probably provide a similar experience of being sat in Wetherspoon's, dressed only in a towel

Almost every single guys FAB forum based moan for every aspect of swinging can come down to "way to many guys compared to women and couples who meet men"

Thats the reason for everything, from cost at clubs to lack of "fab" meets. etc etc

I dont get why its so hard for some to understand :P

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

funny that HAHA..wethers in towels

I dont go now as much as I cant afford clubs in theses times of austerity but unless anyone could car share would be brill ill throw in an Eccles cake too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

PMSL

IM A LEFTY

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By *ex4unowCouple over a year ago

near you

Disabled cant you use some of that disability living alowance (drinks and lifestyle alowance) thats paid on top of any benefits or taxable income £150.00 per month lowest level fact easily pay for going to a club or put your income and outgoings on here and im sure many could find ways to cut your cloth or would they be in uproar as to your amount of disposable income

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple over a year ago

bedford

I think clubs do it to limit the amount of single guys attending,even tho we play with single guys ,the wife does not like clubs being overrun by them,maybe clubs should have a reserve list where guys can put there name down and be allowed so many visits a year,we visit jaydees ,where they limit the amount of single guys,so if we feel in the mood for a guy,the wife can either chat one up or invite those watching to join in,we have been lucky that way and she has had some fun

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman over a year ago

Deviant City

"Disabled cant you use some of that disability living alowance (drinks and lifestyle alowance) thats paid on top of any benefits or taxable income £150.00 per month lowest level fact easily pay for going to a club or put your income and outgoings on here and im sure many could find ways to cut your cloth or would they be in uproar as to your amount of disposable income"

judgemental and ignorant.

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By *ark Gr8 Teddy Bear OP Man over a year ago

Wigan

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By *j_markCouple over a year ago
Forum Mod

Totteridge/Whetstone

Rule #1 everyone should be taught on the first day of school: Life is not fair

Closing because it's getting snarky

Admin x

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