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ULEZ Kestrals

By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Hiya, just wondered what everyones veiws are on the new ULEZ expansion in London, as it will affect Kestals (being just inside the M25)

Is there any alternative parking outside the area,

will some upgrade to an electric car, pay the 12.50 each time, or find alternative venues part/some of the time?

Im in between. Not done ULEZ before (avoid it where I can) and pay it for odd occation where I'm within it

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By *oxandRabbitCouple over a year ago

Winchester

Hmm we were thinking the same, definitely affects our ability to go there as regularly as before, especially evening AbFabs parties. Because its not just 12.50 but 25 when taking into account you would arrive late at night but leave in the early hours of the next day... so 2 days in total for a visit.

Would love to upgrade to electric but won't be happening in the near future

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By *lovisMan over a year ago

Twickenham

ULEZ charges only apply to vehicles that don't meet minimum emission standards. There is a website you can check your cars status. It doesn't apply to all vehicles .

Minimum emissions standards

Petrol: Euro 4 (NOx)

Diesel: Euro 6 (NOx and PM)

The ULEZ is enforced based on the declared emissions of the vehicle rather than the age. However:

Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001

Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after September 2015

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By *D2015Couple over a year ago

Wokingham

I don’t think we will be attending much at all after the 29th Aug unfortunately. Just not cost effective. We have been sometimes with only 4 or so other people inside, it makes it a very expensive swimming pool and hot tub.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"ULEZ charges only apply to vehicles that don't meet minimum emission standards. There is a website you can check your cars status. It doesn't apply to all vehicles .

Minimum emissions standards

Petrol: Euro 4 (NOx)

Diesel: Euro 6 (NOx and PM)

The ULEZ is enforced based on the declared emissions of the vehicle rather than the age. However:

Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001

Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after September 2015"

Ah well that me out lol.

I have a 2011 Diesel

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By *oxandRabbitCouple over a year ago

Winchester

Haha ours is 2012 diesel but still not enough

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By *unniebee1970Woman over a year ago

The Hive

Im gut choking diesel is compliant.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

It maybe worth checking the TFL website for ULEZ as well as a couple of other websites I think you will be surprised as just how many cars are ULEZ compliant.I had a 18 year old Corsa that was ok and now my 3 year old Fiesta is ok

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By *uto564Man over a year ago

Widnes

Some diesels from as early as 2008 are compliant so it’s worth checking on the dvla website

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By *lovisMan over a year ago

Twickenham

Check your reg on here

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle/

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By *ornyManInHertsMan over a year ago

Herts/Beds

That’s me done with Kestrels. I’m a regular and it’s already very expensive for a single guy at £40. Adding ULEZ charge on top will make it too expensive. Shame

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"That’s me done with Kestrels. I’m a regular and it’s already very expensive for a single guy at £40. Adding ULEZ charge on top will make it too expensive. Shame "

I agree. We travel 2h+ to get there. 40 Diesel + 35 + ULEZ. No chance!

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By *r OreoMan over a year ago

Croydon

Never even thought about it - lucky mine is compliant.

But as mentioned above - if you turn up at 10, then leave at 2, that's £25 extra!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting.

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By *exy and HotCouple over a year ago

St Albans

"Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting. "

Numbers won’t plummet as the majority of cars will be ULEZ compliant.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting.

Numbers won’t plummet as the majority of cars will be ULEZ compliant.

If you say so

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting.

Numbers won’t plummet as the majority of cars will be ULEZ compliant.

If you say so"

Depends who you listen to. It's probably only 1 in 6 cars that are non-conpliant, but obviously diesels are hit disproportionately.

Given how close Heathrow is to the edge of the zone, it may be possible to find somewhere to park outside and then public transport.

For instance, the Elizabeth Line stops at West Drayton then it's a bus to Longford.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Stats suggest way way less than 1 in 6. Estimated 90.5% of cars in greater London are ULEZ compliant so don't assume you're not!

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"Stats suggest way way less than 1 in 6. Estimated 90.5% of cars in greater London are ULEZ compliant so don't assume you're not! "

1 in 10 (quoted by Sadiq Khan) is disputed by a review of traffic cameras, hence I went for the lower value to head off any counter arguments!

But I agree, don't assume your car is not compliant!

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By *D2015Couple over a year ago

Wokingham

We have two cars and a motorcycle, none are compliant.

For people to say the majority come within are deluded to the number of vehicles that fall outside. The whole purpose is to make money nothing else, so it would be a bit pointless if the majority were not affected.

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By *luffy FairyWoman over a year ago

west LDN

Maybe they could put on a minibus service or create a group whereby people can stay in hotels outside and have set pick up times and drop off times to try and keep the valuable customers and try to keep

Your costs down.

Just a thought

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By *cottish guy 555Man over a year ago

London

"We have two cars and a motorcycle, none are compliant.

I do agree. Simply put, you could drive the worst polluting vehicle known to man but providing you pay £12.50 you can gas as many kids as you like

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Stats suggest way way less than 1 in 6. Estimated 90.5% of cars in greater London are ULEZ compliant so don't assume you're not! "

Those who live in London may be prepaired for it as its a daily thing for those who live on/near the ULEZ zones.

Those who visit clubs from further afeild (Colchester for us) are not, as rarely venture inside M25

I checked a while with fingers crossed, but nope. My vehicals not complient

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Maybe they could put on a minibus service or create a group whereby people can stay in hotels outside and have set pick up times and drop off times to try and keep the valuable customers and try to keep

Your costs down.

Just a thought

Somehow I don't think they will.

Accidentally got a parking ticket £100 "as a customer" a while back. Did they help. Nope.

They told me to pay it as they have 'some agreement'? With the parking company.

Also a minibus service, and all the messing about probably won't be worth it, as people have to leave too.

There screwed.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

It's also worth remembering that the Ulez goal posts will be moved in relation to which cars pass and which don't. Just because your car passes this year, doesn't mean it will next year. Personally I don't thinks been thought out very well, but that's the Tories for you!

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple over a year ago

Middle England

"It's also worth remembering that the Ulez goal posts will be moved in relation to which cars pass and which don't. Just because your car passes this year, doesn't mean it will next year. Personally I don't thinks been thought out very well, but that's the Tories for you!"

I think you'll find Sadiq Khan, the mayor, isn't a Conservative

To paraphrase a quote "that's Labour for you!"

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

I think you'll find Sadiq Khan, the mayor, isn't a Conservative

To paraphrase a quote "that's Labour for you!""

I think you'll find that Ulez is a concept that came from a guy called Boris Johnson. Also, when Tfl needed more money during Covid the government, a Conservative government, only allowed the funding on the proviso that Ulez was carried forward and implemented. Once you understand this you you'll understand my original comment.

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple over a year ago

Middle England

I think you'll find Sadiq Khan, the mayor, isn't a Conservative

To paraphrase a quote "that's Labour for you!"

Not going to dance on the head of a pin. The expansion of the zone was forced through by the current mayor.

Other London boroughs were against it. This is basically what the thread is about, with respect to the club. He has the autonomy to implement it as he saw fit.

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By *he Silver FuxMan over a year ago

Uttoxeter

Non-compliant car owner here and visits to Kestrels are over for me - not worth it.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

Chuck the Khan out next May 2024

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

At least it will keep out the riff-raff!

(Joke - before anyone jumps down my throat!) and it’s the male here before you lot get any ideas

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Chuck the Khan out next May 2024"
. I think Khan will win again as I don’t think the Conservative Party have a strong enough candidate with a personality like Boris Johnson to win the London Mayor job.

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By *onnie and Clyde...Couple over a year ago

Essex

2013 so no no for us haah

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

I don't think the Tories want to win it, they're happy with Khan being their useful idiot.

Which is a shame because the man is totally incompetent and clueless and is dragging London down with him.

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By *aidForSharingWoman over a year ago

Lancashire

Your car simply needs to be 2007 onwards. That's quite old

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

I don't think the Tories want to win it, they're happy with Khan being their useful idiot.

Which is a shame because the man is totally incompetent and clueless and is dragging London down with him. "
. Looking at some of the Conservative candidates since Boris stepped down as London mayor I think you are right

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By *he Silver FuxMan over a year ago

Uttoxeter

"Your car simply needs to be 2007 onwards. That's quite old"

Some of us choose or are forced to drive cars older than 2007.

And if you drive a diesel? Got to be younger than 2015

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By *anted by NightMan over a year ago

Shangri-La

"I don’t think we will be attending much at all after the 29th Aug unfortunately. Just not cost effective. We have been sometimes with only 4 or so other people inside, it makes it a very expensive swimming pool and hot tub.

Few friends said same. My membership has expired and in two minds about renewing it as I rarely go now.

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By *onnie and Clyde...Couple over a year ago

Essex

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By *onnie and Clyde...Couple over a year ago

Essex

"Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting.

Numbers won’t plummet as the majority of cars will be ULEZ compliant.

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I think u wrong there my friend.

Seems like everyone here will have to pay extra £25 (maybe not you )

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

I just vote for Howard Cox if need be

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By *egoMan over a year ago

Preston

Another tax on the working people, great. Burn the cameras down.

I’d have to pay £15 a day for no reason. Other than Bojo the tosser. Yes he did introduce it.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

People should ask themselves why does ULEZ have to be £12.50? why not for example could it not be set at £5? Seriously folks for the sake of common sense don't vote for Sadiq Khan next year. I'm tired of the road closers with the LTNs, sick of crime getting worse in London, tired of travel fare and council tax going up and not getting value for it and just tired of him passing blame when don't go right

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By *cottish guy 555Man over a year ago

London

"I just vote for Howard Cox if need be"

A geezer who doesn't believe in human influenced climate change?

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Chuck the Khan out next May 2024. I think Khan will win again as I don’t think the Conservative Party have a strong enough candidate with a personality like Boris Johnson to win the London Mayor job. if you think then that tells me you're planning to vote for Khan"
. I haven’t made up my mind yet who I will be voting for next year for London Mayor.I believe that Susan Hall is the Conservative candidate for London Mayor hopefully people won’t hold it against her for backing Liz Truss budget which proved to be Liz’s downfall as prime minister but I don’t think her comments about the Notting Hill carnival have gone down well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Mine is a 2014 diesel, road tax exempt but still have to pay ULEZ it’s bollocks! I can’t get to the club now especially at £25 for an evening

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s not just kestrels, OP4F and Sutton house hit with the same issue. At least the mail from the club has made people aware.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I buy all non ulez cars just for reference... its a nightmare and will just expand

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"People should ask themselves why does ULEZ have to be £12.50? why not for example could it not be set at £5? Seriously folks for the sake of common sense don't vote for Sadiq Khan next year. I'm tired of the road closers with the LTNs, sick of crime getting worse in London, tired of travel fare and council tax going up and not getting value for it and just tired of him passing blame when don't go right"

Are any of the other candidates actually going to reverse these changes? And lose all that lovely money? I doubt it

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By *ittlechick77Couple over a year ago

Staines

This is not a club issue come iside the zone for any visit or attraction you pay. also not unique to London there are air ploution charge zones in numerous towns and cities in the UK all vary In regards to what vehicles get charged. If vehicles are compliant so less polluting there is no charge.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is not a club issue come iside the zone for any visit or attraction you pay. also not unique to London there are air ploution charge zones in numerous towns and cities in the UK all vary In regards to what vehicles get charged. If vehicles are compliant so less polluting there is no charge.

No one has implied it’s a club issue, but it is an issue for potentially a lot of club users.

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By *ustamanMan over a year ago

weymouth

2014 euro 5 diesel van not ulez, motorcycle is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a 2018 euro 6 diesel engined car and a 2005 euro 3 petrol engined car, both of which are compliant.

I think a lot of people are worried needlessly as more vehicles will be compliant than the press are making out.

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

"I have a 2018 euro 6 diesel engined car and a 2005 euro 3 petrol engined car, both of which are compliant.

I think a lot of people are worried needlessly as more vehicles will be compliant than the press are making out."

Neither of our cars are compliant, luckily we don't live anywhere near London anymore and, at the moment, there aren't any low emissions zones near us. If we did, then an extra £25 would certainly have an impact on what where we choose to go.

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By *m A FuckerMan over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent

bladerunners

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"I buy all non ulez cars just for reference... its a nightmare and will just expand "

If it expands outside the M25 anytime soon it'll cause alot of problems for alot of people

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By *enSiskoMan over a year ago

Cestus 3

Pay by Auto Pay - £15.00

Pay before you travel or by midnight on the day of travel - £15.00

Pay by midnight on the third charging day after you travel - £17.50

For example, if you travel and pay on Tuesday the charge is £15.00 or £17.50 if you pay by midnight on Friday.

If you travel on a Friday you have until midnight on the following Monday to pay.

The above is from TFL website, my car is a Audi TT 05 which passes the criteria, but a tad bit more in cost than I read earlier.

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By *ICKED WILLYMan over a year ago

South Bucks

"Pay by Auto Pay - £15.00

Pay before you travel or by midnight on the day of travel - £15.00

Pay by midnight on the third charging day after you travel - £17.50

For example, if you travel and pay on Tuesday the charge is £15.00 or £17.50 if you pay by midnight on Friday.

If you travel on a Friday you have until midnight on the following Monday to pay.

The above is from TFL website, my car is an Audi TT 05 which passes the criteria, but a tad bit more in cost than I read earlier."

I think you are referring to the Congestion Charge rather than ULEZ charging…

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By *enSiskoMan over a year ago

Cestus 3

"Pay by Auto Pay - £15.00

Pay before you travel or by midnight on the day of travel - £15.00

Pay by midnight on the third charging day after you travel - £17.50

For example, if you travel and pay on Tuesday the charge is £15.00 or £17.50 if you pay by midnight on Friday.

If you travel on a Friday you have until midnight on the following Monday to pay.

The above is from TFL website, my car is an Audi TT 05 which passes the criteria, but a tad bit more in cost than I read earlier.

I think you are referring to the Congestion Charge rather than ULEZ charging…"

Ok thanks for the correction, so what I copied and pasted is the new outer London charge, and the centre 12.50? or the other way round.

I know im not a Londoner but Manchester will have no choice now due to the court ruling to implement it here so was just looking into it.

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By *ryton 123TV/TS over a year ago

Chatham

My cars are both compiled but I won't be setting foot into London ever again. I will however charge local councillors and government officials £12,50 if they set foot on my property.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Pay by Auto Pay - £15.00

Pay before you travel or by midnight on the day of travel - £15.00

Pay by midnight on the third charging day after you travel - £17.50

For example, if you travel and pay on Tuesday the charge is £15.00 or £17.50 if you pay by midnight on Friday.

If you travel on a Friday you have until midnight on the following Monday to pay.

The above is from TFL website, my car is an Audi TT 05 which passes the criteria, but a tad bit more in cost than I read earlier.

I think you are referring to the Congestion Charge rather than ULEZ charging…

Ok thanks for the correction, so what I copied and pasted is the new outer London charge, and the centre 12.50? or the other way round.

I know im not a Londoner but Manchester will have no choice now due to the court ruling to implement it here so was just looking into it."

What you posted was the congestion charge, that’s for central London.

ULEZ was introduced in 2019 (£12.50) but only covered central London.

As of today it covers Greater London.

I have 2 motorbikes and a car that aren’t compliant.

Had to pay £12.50 for the privilege of riding a motorbike in London at the weekend

Never been to kestrals, too shy.

If anyone wants to take me under their wing (so to speak)…

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By *ittlechick77Couple over a year ago

Staines

In Oxford there is ZEZ zero emissions zone basically between the hours of 7am and 7pm only full eltric cars can be driven free of charge. Every other vehicle regardless of age engine type will be charged that includes hybrids. As said before London is not the only city.

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By *m32ukMan over a year ago

North East

…so is no-one going today? LOL

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"…so is no-one going today? LOL"

Nope. Thats me out apart from the rare occation..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok. Two things, 1: I drive a shit car that unfortunately falls into Khans booking £12.50 billing criteria. So won’t be parking at kestrels again.

Point 2: how to avoid if you own a shit runabout like me. Park 0.9 miles away for free and walk which takes 11 minutes. (Proven the route today)

Problem solved and fun still had. Happy fabbing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Your car simply needs to be 2007 onwards. That's quite old"

Not true, I have a 2008 car and a 2015 van and both are chargeable, it's all about emmusikns and nothing to do with age.of vehicle.

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By *m A FuckerMan over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent

Thats correct 100%..it is about the Emmusikns

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By *he Silver FuxMan over a year ago

Uttoxeter

"I have a 2018 euro 6 diesel engined car and a 2005 euro 3 petrol engined car, both of which are compliant.

I think a lot of people are worried needlessly as more vehicles will be compliant than the press are making out."

Good for you, won’t be taking the E-Type though.

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By *cottish guy 555Man over a year ago

London

"I have a 2018 euro 6 diesel engined car and a 2005 euro 3 petrol engined car, both of which are compliant.

I think a lot of people are worried needlessly as more vehicles will be compliant than the press are making out.

Good for you, won’t be taking the E-Type though."

Wouldn't that be a classic car and therefore exempt?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes the E is exempt as its taxed as a historic car

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes the E is exempt as its taxed as a historic car "

Only if it's more than 40 years old.

None of my cars are compliant and it's breaking my heart to be selling them off and replacing them with over-priced and inferior compliant vehicles. Particularly as I live right on the border with Surrey where traffic is light and emissions really aren't an issue.

P.S. If I walked 0.9 miles in 11 minutes I'd be arriving with quite the sweat on..

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

"Yes the E is exempt as its taxed as a historic car

Only if it's more than 40 years old.

P.S. If I walked 0.9 miles in 11 minutes I'd be arriving with quite the sweat on..

We wouldn't be parking more than 100m from any club let alone almost a mile!

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By *exy and HotCouple over a year ago

St Albans

"Ok. Two things, 1: I drive a shit car that unfortunately falls into Khans booking £12.50 billing criteria. So won’t be parking at kestrels again.

Point 2: how to avoid if you own a shit runabout like me. Park 0.9 miles away for free and walk which takes 11 minutes. (Proven the route today)

Problem solved and fun still had. Happy fabbing. "

Well done!

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"Ok. Two things, 1: I drive a shit car that unfortunately falls into Khans booking £12.50 billing criteria. So won’t be parking at kestrels again.

Point 2: how to avoid if you own a shit runabout like me. Park 0.9 miles away for free and walk which takes 11 minutes. (Proven the route today)

Problem solved and fun still had. Happy fabbing. "

I don't think you're getting into the spirit of the thread with your pragmatic, can-do attitude....

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Think K’s will struggle. £25 on top of entry for non compliment vehicles. Can see numbers plummeting.

Numbers won’t plummet as the majority of cars will be ULEZ compliant.

I think u wrong there my friend.

Seems like everyone here will have to pay extra £25 (maybe not you )"

I think the 90% of cars compliant figure is for London itself. Outside London the figures will be lower with a lot more non-compliant cars. I for one have bought two cars within the last couple of years from within London for peanuts and use them outside London. (Still great deals to be had on some great cars if you go shopping in London but plan to drive mostly outside.)

For somewhere like Kestrels if most of customers were from inside London I guess not much of a problem but most out coming from outside London with much higher non-ULEZ cars.

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By *litterbabeWoman over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

My £20 a year to tax, diesel mini is not ulez compliment, so I will not be entering the ulez zone.

A government money making scheme.

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

Maybe we could arrange a car-share program? Set up a doodle poll?

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By *nimaginativeUsernameMan over a year ago

Rochester, Kent

Surprised to see my 2010 Audi Q7 3.0 turbo diesel is compliant, but I totally disagree with the scheme

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By *m A FuckerMan over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent

"Yes the E is exempt as its taxed as a historic car

Only if it's more than 40 years old.

P.S. If I walked 0.9 miles in 11 minutes I'd be arriving with quite the sweat on..

We wouldn't be parking more than 100m from any club let alone almost a mile!"
Agreed,imagine taking a lady to a club then saying we park a mile away n walk the rest..haha

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By *ed and WolfieCouple over a year ago

Gravesend

Clearly has nothing to do with air quality. It's just a cover up to make money. If, as Khan says it is only the minority of cars that will have to pay it, then clearly if they stop entering the zone, which is what he wants, then the benefit to air quality will also be minimal. As clearly the majority of 'clean' compliant vehicles are doing good enough a job of polluting the air on their own.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

"Clearly has nothing to do with air quality. It's just a cover up to make money. If, as Khan says it is only the minority of cars that will have to pay it, then clearly if they stop entering the zone, which is what he wants, then the benefit to air quality will also be minimal. As clearly the majority of 'clean' compliant vehicles are doing good enough a job of polluting the air on their own."

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

Air quality has improved significantly in central London, also the expansion of ULEZ was a condition of the government stopping TFL going bankrupt. Whether Khan wanted to expand ULEZ or not (and I think he does), the government told him he had to.

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By *anted by NightMan over a year ago

Shangri-La

" We wouldn't be parking more than 100m from any club let alone almost a mile!Agreed,imagine taking a lady to a club then saying we park a mile away n walk the rest..haha

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

Being sensible, supplying facts and being correct don’t go far on the forums

But we totally agree with you.

It is also no big deal for AbFabs/Kestrels unless you are in every day and have either a Euro 5 Diesel (up to Sept 2015) or a Euro 4 Petrol car from pre 2006. Some people just like to find things they can moan about…

I get the issue is bigger beyond going to Kestrels, however for occasional visits to a Club, it is a non issue. Driving 260 miles there and back was a bigger issue. To stop this, we need better local Clubs with Councils allowing them to open closer to people - much more environmentally friendly

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By *atEvolutionCouple over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

A little bit to one side of this discussion - but Heathrow announced today that the hit for air travel could be 3 times - £12.50 to enter the ULEZ zone (Heathrow is within it) £12.50 to arrive - Then £12.50 on the day you pick up your car. - Plus any airport parking charges (one day is £127.00)

Or £12.50 ULEZ + £5 to drop passengers.

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

"A little bit to one side of this discussion - but Heathrow announced today that the hit for air travel could be 3 times - £12.50 to enter the ULEZ zone (Heathrow is within it) £12.50 to arrive - Then £12.50 on the day you pick up your car. - Plus any airport parking charges (one day is £127.00)

Or £12.50 ULEZ + £5 to drop passengers.

Only if you have a Euro 4 Petrol (pre 2006) or Euro 5 Diesel (Pre Sept 2015) car. It does not impact everybody. Those that it does impact will have to pay, and I get the frustration. More Cities will bring in this approach as they have to reduce Air Pollution.

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By *atEvolutionCouple over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Or £12.50 ULEZ + £5 to drop passengers.

I didn't say it did affect everybody. And Obviously it's cars that fall outside of the ULEZ conditions.

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By *ethnmelvCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

Or £12.50 ULEZ + £5 to drop passengers.

I didn't say it did affect everybody. And Obviously it's cars that fall outside of the ULEZ conditions."

I was just clarifying as people often assume it applies to everyone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well, it doesn't apply to me this morning. The two cameras at the end of my road have been vandalised already.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My £20 a year to tax, diesel mini is not ulez compliment, so I will not be entering the ulez zone.

A government money making scheme. "

Your car isn’t compliant, so rather than pay the charge you decide not to drive into the zone. Presumably, the cost to do so is acting as a deterrent…

…which is what the scheme is designed to do. Non compliant vehicles either don’t enter (making for cleaner air) or pay the charge (does the money go to clean air schemes? Dunno.) would it make you consider public transport instead? It’s about changing behaviour and for many it will. And very soon, every metropolitan area in the UK will have similar zones.

Recently, a London coroner ruled that the cause of a child’s death was air pollution. Clean air is a right, not a privilege.

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By *exy and HotCouple over a year ago

St Albans

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By *m A FuckerMan over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent

"My £20 a year to tax, diesel mini is not ulez compliment, so I will not be entering the ulez zone.

A government money making scheme.

Your car isn’t compliant, so rather than pay the charge you decide not to drive into the zone. Presumably, the cost to do so is acting as a deterrent…

Recently, a London coroner ruled that the cause of a child’s death was air pollution. Clean air is a right, not a privilege. "
Yawn

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"My £20 a year to tax, diesel mini is not ulez compliment, so I will not be entering the ulez zone.

A government money making scheme.

Your car isn’t compliant, so rather than pay the charge you decide not to drive into the zone. Presumably, the cost to do so is acting as a deterrent…

Recently, a London coroner ruled that the cause of a child’s death was air pollution. Clean air is a right, not a privilege. Yawn

That's why I love fabs, the carefully researched arguments, demonstrating empathy and a solid grasp of the issues, presented in a mature and collegiate fashion.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"My £20 a year to tax, diesel mini is not ulez compliment, so I will not be entering the ulez zone.

A government money making scheme.

Your car isn’t compliant, so rather than pay the charge you decide not to drive into the zone. Presumably, the cost to do so is acting as a deterrent…

Recently, a London coroner ruled that the cause of a child’s death was air pollution. Clean air is a right, not a privilege. "

The reality is that these zones do not reduce air pollution by any noticeable or effective amount. They simply act as money making schemes and contribute towards wealth inequality- the poorest workers (such as carers) bear the unfair burden.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

The air quality in Central London had not improved as a result of ULEZ, if Khan was serious about improving air quality he would sort out the mess he's created of the road network. Improving traffic flow and reducing vehicle idling would offer greater gains than by implementing a vindictive and greedy charging scheme.

Secondly, yes, ULEZ was a condition of TFL bailout. But as London's elected representative he could of and should of grown a pair of balls stood up the government and rejected it. But obviously he didn't because he will always be a spineless coward

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

“Air pollution in London has plunged since Sadiq Khan became mayor, with a 94% reduction in the number of people living in areas with illegal levels of nitrogen dioxide. The number of schools in such areas has fallen by 97%, from 455 in 2016 to 14 in 2019.

Experts described the reductions as dramatic and said they showed the air pollution crisis was not intractable. The report shows levels of nitrogen dioxide (NO2) by roads in central London fell by 44% between early 2017 and early 2020.”

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

In the time since Khan became mayor people have naturally upgraded their vehicles to newer less polluting models. The fall in emissions in Central London could likely be attributed to TFL investing in newer buses etc.

There simply aren't enough older vehicles on the road now (according to the mayor's own statement about 90%) being compliant already) to justify ULEZ based on emission reduction.

Also, please bear in mind that Khan has already been caught out trying to suppress and discredit scientific research which contradicts his policies.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

There simply aren't enough older vehicles on the road now (according to the mayor's own statement about 90%) being compliant already) to justify ULEZ based on emission reduction.

Also, please bear in mind that Khan has already been caught out trying to suppress and discredit scientific research which contradicts his policies. "

Sorry, you don’t get to dismiss facts with opinions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh please... Why is this thread even on the sex club discussion page?

Should be shifted to the lounge so we can ignore the politics and get on with chatting about non vanilla stuff again.

Yawn!

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

There simply aren't enough older vehicles on the road now (according to the mayor's own statement about 90%) being compliant already) to justify ULEZ based on emission reduction.

Also, please bear in mind that Khan has already been caught out trying to suppress and discredit scientific research which contradicts his policies.

Sorry, you don’t get to dismiss facts with opinions."

And which of those "facts" support a policy which will drive people into poverty and isolation?

Also, which of those "facts" explicitly attribute an alleged reduction in air pollution to ULEZ/LEZ policies?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

There simply aren't enough older vehicles on the road now (according to the mayor's own statement about 90%) being compliant already) to justify ULEZ based on emission reduction.

Also, please bear in mind that Khan has already been caught out trying to suppress and discredit scientific research which contradicts his policies.

Sorry, you don’t get to dismiss facts with opinions.

And which of those "facts" support a policy which will drive people into poverty and isolation?

Also, which of those "facts" explicitly attribute an alleged reduction in air pollution to ULEZ/LEZ policies?"

Again, I showed you the evidence, your job is to disprove it, if you can’t that’s fine but don’t cry about it.

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By *unnyone32Man over a year ago

london

I am not sure it is the Tories , it was the mayor of London that bought it in .

He place the order for cameras etc before there was any consultation . Hmmm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We had a great time with a ULEZ compliant car at Kestrels the other day. Once we got her started she was purring!

She wasn't one of these new models either; no start stop here. Once she was going there was no stopping her.

Held the road well with great grip and really went for it on the straight.

Didn't take much to fill her up either.

We loved the way she shifted gears as we opened the throttle before she came to a shuddering stop as we paused for a breather. She was hot!

We even introduced her to our electric motor which she loved!

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple over a year ago

Staffordshire

For those of you thinking of making the switch to Corsa E, don't be too scared. Just bought one for £ 2K more than equivalent Petrol. Which I thought was worth the investment. Over last 4 weeks have not had to buy any fuel as we charge off solar panels, however if you don't have solar you can charge it up at night for 9.5p KWH. You get roughly 4 miles per KWH so works out at less than 2.5p per mile. There is no road tax and of course no ULEZ.

Petrol currently at around 15 to 20p per mile depending on your cars mileage.

It goes like a rocket. The acceleration is breath taking as torque is smooth and instant. Has 209 miles of range so if you're like me do all your charging at home for those rates.

I do realise my post may not suit all as EVs do have drawbacks but if you have a drive and can home charge it is the way to go.

My ICE has sat on the drive for last 4 weeks gathering cobwebs. Why pay for petrol when I can get it for free.

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By *illingdon_ladMan over a year ago

Bicester

"I am not sure it is the Tories , it was the mayor of London that bought it in .

He place the order for cameras etc before there was any consultation . Hmmm "

As a few others have pointed out before the expansion of ULEZ was a condition of the government stopping TFL going bankrupt, last time I checked we had a Tory government, so yes he may have bought it in but it was the government that forced it. It was also Boris "part animal" Johnston who came.up.with the idea initially.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For those of you thinking of making the switch to Corsa E, don't be too scared. Just bought one for £ 2K more than equivalent Petrol. Which I thought was worth the investment. Over last 4 weeks have not had to buy any fuel as we charge off solar panels, however if you don't have solar you can charge it up at night for 9.5p KWH. You get roughly 4 miles per KWH so works out at less than 2.5p per mile. There is no road tax and of course no ULEZ.

Petrol currently at around 15 to 20p per mile depending on your cars mileage.

It goes like a rocket. The acceleration is breath taking as torque is smooth and instant. Has 209 miles of range so if you're like me do all your charging at home for those rates.

I do realise my post may not suit all as EVs do have drawbacks but if you have a drive and can home charge it is the way to go.

My ICE has sat on the drive for last 4 weeks gathering cobwebs. Why pay for petrol when I can get it for free.

Food for thought.

For balance, what are the drawbacks/negatives you've experienced so far?

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"We had a great time with a ULEZ compliant car at Kestrels the other day. Once we got her started she was purring!

She wasn't one of these new models either; no start stop here. Once she was going there was no stopping her.

Held the road well with great grip and really went for it on the straight.

Didn't take much to fill her up either.

We loved the way she shifted gears as we opened the throttle before she came to a shuddering stop as we paused for a breather. She was hot!

We even introduced her to our electric motor which she loved!"

Have you read "she being Brand" by e.e.cummings?

https://allpoetry.com/she-being-Brand

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

Mmmm I’m not sure you quite understand how it works, if the cars that pollute a lot don’t drive in an area then the air quality improves. It’s really quite simple.

There simply aren't enough older vehicles on the road now (according to the mayor's own statement about 90%) being compliant already) to justify ULEZ based on emission reduction.

Also, please bear in mind that Khan has already been caught out trying to suppress and discredit scientific research which contradicts his policies.

Sorry, you don’t get to dismiss facts with opinions.

And which of those "facts" support a policy which will drive people into poverty and isolation?

Also, which of those "facts" explicitly attribute an alleged reduction in air pollution to ULEZ/LEZ policies?

Again, I showed you the evidence, your job is to disprove it, if you can’t that’s fine but don’t cry about it."

The "evidence" you provide simply states that air pollution has decreased since Sadiq Khan became mayor, it does link this reduction to any of his policies or actions. Furthermore the supposed significant reduction in N02 has occurred prior to the introduction and expansion of ULEZ, especially seeing as how the original ULEZ was not in place until April 2019. Now, if the amount of air pollution is already falling at such a dramatic rate it negates the need to push through such a controversial piece of legislation.

I suggest that instead of worrying about London's air quality you lobby your local Cumbrian MP to implement your very own ULEZ, I'm sure Cumbrians have a right to be protected from nasty older polluting vehicles too!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am not sure it is the Tories , it was the mayor of London that bought it in .

He place the order for cameras etc before there was any consultation . Hmmm "

And the Mayor of London who introduced it was… Tory Cockwomble and Liar Extraordinaire Boris Johnson! Khan had to expand it as part of the Tory government bail out of TfL.

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By *iFunMale_southMan over a year ago

Reading

My only experience of ULEZ is getting a fine for having a compliant car. TfL idiots.

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

It does not affect me too much but with prices for single men already way too high put on a 24hr congestion charge plus possible parking charges couple's now with ULEZ for some I can't see clubs doing well

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

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By *quirtyandflirty73Couple over a year ago

hebden bridge

Also is the charge not set for a 24hr period of 0001hrs to 2359hrs, so if you at the club and leave at 0200/0300hrs you will pay again?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think any business in London that people drive to will see some impact, especially as it’s not a 24 hour period. Does it apply 24 hours?

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By *pank the MonkeyCouple over a year ago

Down the Rabbit Hole and Round the Corner

"Also is the charge not set for a 24hr period of 0001hrs to 2359hrs, so if you at the club and leave at 0200/0300hrs you will pay again? "

Completely correct. You have to be outside the ulez zone before 2359 or you will get charged twice.

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By *etWetWet453Couple over a year ago

CAMBERLEY

"My only experience of ULEZ is getting a fine for having a compliant car. TfL idiots. "

Same here. Appealed and upheld. It was because I have a cherished number plate. FFS. How difficult can it be.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"My only experience of ULEZ is getting a fine for having a compliant car. TfL idiots. "

Yep, I recon the'll ve alot of mistakes like that.

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

Buts it’s ok Heathrow airport has planes that pollute the atmosphere

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Looking for an old banger to take to Kestrels next week. Must be ULEZ compliant.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Buts it’s ok Heathrow airport has planes that pollute the atmosphere "

Yep. My car produced maybe a few kg of Co2, yet Heathrow accross the road produces something like 20 metic tons of Co2 per year lol

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Buts it’s ok Heathrow airport has planes that pollute the atmosphere "

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By *itty9899Man over a year ago

Craggy Island

My car fine just checked.

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By *he Bigger AMan over a year ago

London

To be honest this thread is a pit pathetic…

We’ve know for over 5 years that:

+ The Euro car makers lied about diesel emissions, and installed cheat devices (you should be angry at them)

+ That ULEZ was set up by Boris Johnson was going to be expanding to Greater London.

+ This affects less than 10% vehicles (even my aunt’s 2005 RAV is compliant and that has a lot going wrong with it already)

If in the last few years you brought up cheap 2nd hand diesels then that’s your shortsightedness.

I have sympathy for tradespeople because vans and commercial vehicles are more expensive but there is tax support, you can claim the charge back.

If you can’t pay the charge, just park outside the area - and arrange a Taxi for the 1 mile, someone at the club will probably drive you back to it afterwards.

Single guys you can probably manage the walk…

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By *llaandGCouple over a year ago

London

"To be honest this thread is a pit pathetic…

We’ve know for over 5 years that:

+ The Euro car makers lied about diesel emissions, and installed cheat devices (you should be angry at them)

+ That ULEZ was set up by Boris Johnson was going to be expanding to Greater London.

+ This affects less than 10% vehicles (even my aunt’s 2005 RAV is compliant and that has a lot going wrong with it already)

If in the last few years you brought up cheap 2nd hand diesels then that’s your shortsightedness.

I have sympathy for tradespeople because vans and commercial vehicles are more expensive but there is tax support, you can claim the charge back.

If you can’t pay the charge, just park outside the area - and arrange a Taxi for the 1 mile, someone at the club will probably drive you back to it afterwards.

Single guys you can probably manage the walk…"

I'm a big fan of common sense so you win the thread. Thank you!

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By *izusMan over a year ago

Gloucestershire

My V8 twin turbo is compliant. Lol doesn’t make sense.

Use google avoid tolls see if it gets you around the cameras.

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

"To be honest this thread is a pit pathetic…

We’ve know for over 5 years that:

+ The Euro car makers lied about diesel emissions, and installed cheat devices (you should be angry at them)

+ That ULEZ was set up by Boris Johnson was going to be expanding to Greater London.

+ This affects less than 10% vehicles (even my aunt’s 2005 RAV is compliant and that has a lot going wrong with it already)

If in the last few years you brought up cheap 2nd hand diesels then that’s your shortsightedness.

I have sympathy for tradespeople because vans and commercial vehicles are more expensive but there is tax support, you can claim the charge back.

If you can’t pay the charge, just park outside the area - and arrange a Taxi for the 1 mile, someone at the club will probably drive you back to it afterwards.

Single guys you can probably manage the walk…"

Haha, some single guys walk miles in the club their be worn out by the close of play

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"To be honest this thread is a pit pathetic…

We’ve know for over 5 years that:

+ The Euro car makers lied about diesel emissions, and installed cheat devices (you should be angry at them)

+ That ULEZ was set up by Boris Johnson was going to be expanding to Greater London.

+ This affects less than 10% vehicles (even my aunt’s 2005 RAV is compliant and that has a lot going wrong with it already)

If in the last few years you brought up cheap 2nd hand diesels then that’s your shortsightedness.

I have sympathy for tradespeople because vans and commercial vehicles are more expensive but there is tax support, you can claim the charge back.

If you can’t pay the charge, just park outside the area - and arrange a Taxi for the 1 mile, someone at the club will probably drive you back to it afterwards.

Single guys you can probably manage the walk…

Haha, some single guys walk miles in the club there be worn out by the close of play "
. You can certainly walk miles in Kestrels / AbFabs it is such a big place.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"My V8 twin turbo is compliant. Lol doesn’t make sense.

Use google avoid tolls see if it gets you around the cameras. "

Definitly makes no sence allowing V8s into ULEZ for free lol

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By *izusMan over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I know, how stupid it is. A V8 with stop start classed as some sort of hybrid

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know, how stupid it is. A V8 with stop start classed as some sort of hybrid "

Stop-start won’t class it as a hybrid. Stop-start has been a requirement for many years now. To class as a hybrid it needs some sort of electrical power. To be ULEZ compliant, the car has to have emissions below a certain threshold, irrespective of the number of cylinders.

The purpose of the charge isn’t to pay to polute. It’s to change behaviour. That’s most noticeable where people have taken to vandalism of the ULEZ cameras.

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By *dysseusukMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Looking for an old banger to take to Kestrels next week. Must be ULEZ compliant."

I’m an old banger and very compliant

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By *anted by NightMan over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Looking for an old banger to take to Kestrels next week. Must be ULEZ compliant"

Lol

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By *icolerobbieCouple over a year ago

walsall

Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The thing with schemes such as ULEZ is that one introduced, they get amended, and expanded.

For now, polluting cars pay, buy how long before they simply cannot enter? Mind you, the daily fee will be a lot more by then and once they’ve squeezed as much as they can out of everyone, they will just be banned.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"The thing with schemes such as ULEZ is that one introduced, they get amended, and expanded.

Imo ulez will be scrapped, camera can be taken down quicker than they get put up,

Without ULEZ most cars will be complient by 2030, and mostly electric by 2040..

Anyone drive a car older than 25 years old?.. even for the poor older cars than this probably isn't cost efficient

They'll faise out natrually.

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By *ootleCouple over a year ago

Romford, Essex

We were there yesterday (Sunday) and it was very busy - so it appears that the scare-mongers who were (are) proclaiming that the pending demise of the club is nigh because of ULEZ - have got it overwhelmingly wrong!

Although we have ULEZ compliant cars, we decided to take the train. We live in Essex and it was only one train to Heathrow T5 on the Elizabeth Line - then a 6 minute bus ride from T5 to the club - 1hour 50 minutes in total vs 1hour 15 mins driving.

And it was a lot less stressful than negotiating the M25!

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal."

Its still early days yet.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal.

It’s still early days yet."
. It maybe early days but for those of us that have been living in London or just outside London we have known about ULEZ since 2021 when it was introduced for the North Circular ( A406 ) a lot of family and friends had cars that were ULEZ compliant back then so it wasn’t a problem and I think that will be the case now

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal.

It’s still early days yet.. It maybe early days but for those of us that have been living in London or just outside London we have known about ULEZ since 2021 when it was introduced for the North Circular ( A406 ) a lot of family and friends had cars that were ULEZ compliant back then so it wasn’t a problem and I think that will be the case now"

Maybe. But alot of people travelling from well outside london may not be ULEZ complient

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal.

Maybe. But alot of people travelling from well outside london may not be ULEZ complient

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. I think it will be mostly people from outside London that perhaps stop going to some clubs but until you put your car registration in the TFL or DVLA website to see if your car is ULEZ compliant you are not going to know.My old car was a 2005 Vauxhall Corsa and that was compliant so I would not be to surprised if most car’s are ok

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Be interning to hear if there as any noticeable reduction in attendance at the venue. If not, it just proves that khan knows that people will just pay up and continue as normal.

Its still early days yet."

Weren’t you the guy who got a fine for not putting your reg in the parking system?

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By *illingdon_ladMan over a year ago

Bicester

Was there on Friday. Was very busy so I'd say not likely to make much of a difference.

On a different note I was behind a 53 plate zafira I checked out of curiosity and was surprised to see it was ulez compliant.

So I urge all to check their car before assuming it's not allowed.

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By *inkyPixelMan over a year ago

Cranford

I live in the local area so my suggestion is to look at the 81 bus route and stay in Colnbrook. You will get free parking in the area during the night. The bus journey is about 3 stops and drops you literally outside the club/McDonald's. And I believe it is a 24 hour bus.

And finally of you wanted to crash over then Colnbrook had the Arora hotel (Old, Bath Rd, Colnbrook, SL3 0PH)

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Was there on Friday. Was very busy so I'd say not likely to make much of a difference.

On a different note I was behind a 53 plate zafira I checked out of curiosity and was surprised to see it was ulez compliant.

So I urge all to check their car before assuming it's not allowed. "
. Definitely worth going on the TFL or DVLA website enter your car registration my 2005 Corsa was compliant and I have a friend with a 2002 Nissan Mirca and that was also compliant

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By *illingdon_ladMan over a year ago

Bicester

"Was there on Friday. Was very busy so I'd say not likely to make much of a difference.

On a different note I was behind a 53 plate zafira I checked out of curiosity and was surprised to see it was ulez compliant.

So I urge all to check their car before assuming it's not allowed. . Definitely worth going on the TFL or DVLA website enter your car registration my 2005 Corsa was compliant and I have a friend with a 2002 Nissan Mirca and that was also compliant "

I heard of some black cab driver who's been charging his clients extra to compensate for the ULEZ, turns out they are exempt from the ULEZ so watch out for people profiteering from this.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"I live in the local area so my suggestion is to look at the 81 bus route and stay in Colnbrook. You will get free parking in the area during the night. The bus journey is about 3 stops and drops you literally outside the club/McDonald's. And I believe it is a 24 hour bus.

And finally of you wanted to crash over then Colnbrook had the Arora hotel (Old, Bath Rd, Colnbrook, SL3 0PH)"

Bus sounds like a good idea, although only 1 camera passed going to and from kestrels, and it appeared to be missing when I circled the roundabout on way in last lol

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By *ove to watch in suffolkMan over a year ago

stowmarket

2011 non compliant same as 3 of my other vehicals

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By *r_YouTube OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

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By *onathan14Man over a year ago

Liverpool

I think a better thought idea would have been a charge for " x" hours so that if one was travelling later in the day and returning in the early hours, it's only one charge.

Ideally at a reduced rate.

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By *onnie and Clyde...Couple over a year ago

Essex

2013 still not enough too haha

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By *ondonMagicCouple over a year ago

Durham

"It maybe worth checking the TFL website for ULEZ as well as a couple of other websites I think you will be surprised as just how many cars are ULEZ compliant.I had a 18 year old Corsa that was ok and now my 3 year old Fiesta is ok"

Exactly.I have a 2010 petrol and it’s compliant too

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By *litterbabeWoman over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I find the ulez very frustrating, I no longer drive inside it, it's affected my work (self employment) and my social life. My car is only £20 tax a year but not compliant. There's many other people in a similar situation to me. Absolutely crazy that you can drive past Heathrow with all it's planes coming and going, and that's not seen as a pollution problem in the ulez.

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By *antam AvershiresMan over a year ago

Falme

I do agree. Simply put, you could drive the worst polluting vehicle known to man but providing you pay £12.50 you can gas as many kids as you like

Just remember that "Punishable by fine" just means "Legal for a price"

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By *r_YouTube OP Man 50 weeks ago

Colchester

"I find the ulez very frustrating, I no longer drive inside it, it's affected my work (self employment) and my social life. My car is only £20 tax a year but not compliant. There's many other people in a similar situation to me. Absolutely crazy that you can drive past Heathrow with all it's planes coming and going, and that's not seen as a pollution problem in the ulez. "

I agree

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 50 weeks ago

Cumbria

Has Kestrels gone out of business yet?

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

"Has Kestrels gone out of business yet?"

Not at all. But your deep concern is very touching…

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 50 weeks ago

Cumbria

"Has Kestrels gone out of business yet?

Not at all. But your deep concern is very touching…"

So it’s not been driven out of business by the Conservative government imposed vehicle restrictions then?

That’s good.

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

"Has Kestrels gone out of business yet?

Not at all. But your deep concern is very touching…

So it’s not been driven out of business by the Conservative government imposed vehicle restrictions then?

That’s good."

Ah, that’s what you meant.

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By *entle_lover_xMan 50 weeks ago

Great Dunmow

Well I think planes are seen as a pollution problem and they are taxed to some extent (probably should be more) but not within the responsibilities of the London Mayor. It's a case of don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Just because more can be done doesn't mean something positive can't be done. Sorry it causes you problems but perhaps change cars? I think there are still ULEZ compliant second hand cars out there for as little as £2000 (doesn't need to be a new electric as many people often think). There is also a good market for people coming from outside London to buy non-ULEZ cars. I've bought two in the last few years.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 50 weeks ago

South West London

Chuck the Khan out 2024, now he his planning to charge people who drive through the Blackwall Tunnel. Enough is Enough

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By *x2 4 funCouple 50 weeks ago

Southampton

Think you will find that the mayor of London is labour

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 50 weeks ago

Cumbria

"Think you will find that the mayor of London is labour "

He was forced to implement ULEZ by the Conservative government in return for funding to keep TFL going during lockdown.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 50 weeks ago

South West London

Dont care if he his Labour, cant continue having him as Mayor anymore

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By *ain and sortedMan 50 weeks ago

Old Harlow Essex

"I find the ulez very frustrating, I no longer drive inside it, it's affected my work (self employment) and my social life. My car is only £20 tax a year but not compliant. There's many other people in a similar situation to me. Absolutely crazy that you can drive past Heathrow with all its planes coming and going, and that's not seen as a pollution problem in the ulez.

Now ulez has been implemented prices for used cars are starting to drop dramatically, as demand has dropped off , December u can grab a bargain , for sure or early next year before the market settles, electric isn’t for everyone esp if u live in London , in an apartment, there’s a change in buyers perception now scared to commit in case market and government policy changes again , any advice please feel free to get in touch I’ve only been in the industry for 30 years so just starting to know what I’m talking about haha

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By *llaandGCouple 50 weeks ago

London

"Dont care if he his Labour, cant continue having him as Mayor anymore"

And you think the far-right fruitbat Conservative candidate will get rid of it if she gets in? "Oh, well it's here now so I expect I'll have to keep taking the lovely money"....

Nah.

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?"

This is a swinging site and everyone is talking about ULEZ on this post (why is it even here?!) That in itself is disappointingly fucked up. All I read was LEZ (cue the sad single bloke comments, not a problem, not bothered etc). Stop being English and start being sociable. That’s the entry point to swinging surely.

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?"

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By *r_YouTube OP Man 50 weeks ago

Colchester

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?

Its on here because it affects some of the clubs in the London area for non Ulez complient cars

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By *unguy0069Man 50 weeks ago

Reigate

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?

Its on here because it affects some of the clubs in the London area for non Ulez complient cars

That’s fine. But it’s also getting political which isn’t fine.

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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago

It's on here because the OP has a beef with the club. Notice he's not referring to any other clubs affected by ULEZ.

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By *r_YouTube OP Man 50 weeks ago

Colchester

"It's on here because the OP has a beef with the club. Notice he's not referring to any other clubs affected by ULEZ."

Its the only one I've been to within the Ulez zone. Eurekas, Chams, Monkey business and Silverleigh are outside of Ulez.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 50 weeks ago

South West London

Aint just ULEZ thats the problem, LTN's are a big issue too where more traffic is caused on the roads, speed limits now being only 20mph and restictions to left and right turns just too much. Im not gonna let someone like Sadiq Khan force or price me out of my car because he wants people to take the unsafe and unreliable public transports

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By *ty31Man 50 weeks ago

NW London

I agree

Didn't you mean to say bump?

Were you not getting enough attention?

The prohibitive cost of ULEZ makes being sociable much more difficult for a number of people!

It's a policy which has only been implemented to cover the fuck ups of the people in charge of the public transport network in London and the cost of which is being borne by those least able to afford it.

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