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KitKat - UK based Alternatives?
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Heya,
While there are a lot of adult clubs in the UK, they all seem to be focused on offering a large number of play rooms, but only have a small dance floor where the gents are often in suits/looking professional.
What we are after are clubs where mr and mrs can dress up in extravagant club wear without looking out of place. A club where we can dance for hours, get frisky on/off the dance floor and head off to the orgy room / side room when we can't hold back any longer.
We absolutely love going to Berlin as there are a few, with KitKat being our favourite. We also go to Torture Garden London every few months. Both are annoying to get to for just a single night. Last time we lost track of time at TG and only got 3 hours of sleep before we had to checkout and start our 3 hour drive back to Nottingham, definitely not enough time to sleep off a hangover - it was a horrible drive! TG's website states 'TBC' for a Manchester but have never seen one actually take place there. At least Manchester has a few non-5star hotels that let you checkout super late.
We have struggled to find any clubs in the UK that are remotely similar to these, or even those found in Agde. Are there any clubs within a 2 hour drive of Nottingham that meet our requirements? Everyone we've ever met at TG or KK only knew of TG events or other London based ones.
There's got to be something closer to Nottingham, right? Please help us out or at least give us a recommendation for a hotel in London that lets us sleep until 4pm. 
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By *oxesMan 50 weeks ago
Southend, Essex |
Is a shame and a surprise no one has answered this. I find in the UK, they're are few clubs specifically where one can just dance. The music serves more as background noise rather than one of the main focuses.
This Might be because of culture and of the age range differences in Germany compared to the UK OR SWINGING and attending sexclubs are not under same umbrella as such.
I believe but don't quote me on this. That Townhouse has/had a techno night.
P.s. I was at KitKat last week and I loved it. |
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Looked at Xtasia? It's quite a large dressy up dancy (not sure if that's a word) sort of a club club. Also there can a bit of a kink element to the club. I don't think you'd be out of place dressing up, looking amazing and dancing all night there. We'd suggest check that out, see what you think. |
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By *osie89Woman 50 weeks ago
Anglesey |
"I believe but don't quote me on this. That Townhouse has/had a techno night "
Sorry, I’m quoting you! I’ve never been to any, but I have seen Townhouse offering nights that seem more dance club/party oriented. Unfortunately they don’t have a presence on here so you’d have to search for their website. |
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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago
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"Look up Torture Garden. Although a kink based club, partaking is optional. It's a great night out just for clubbing as well"
Yes TG, also look up Klub Verboten. Techno/fetish party based on the Berlin clubs.
Its members only so you will have to attend one of their socials first or find a member to take you along.
There was briefly a club night called Crossbreed. I never went but followed them on socials.
It was an interesting drama to watch unfold as the event started to implode under their own ultra radical queer politics (their own description used in a job advert) and eventual demise under a sexual assault allegations (a lot of)
Non of that is relevant to your question, but it was interesting to watch
TG and Verboten though are long established and well run events and will be right up your street if you like techno and latex
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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago
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Sorry OP just read your post properly and you’re looking for club nights near Nottingham.
Unfortunately I’m not sure you will find what you are looking for outside of London.
TG does do events in Brighton but that’s even further from you. I think I’ve heard of them doing events in Manchester but I’m not sure.
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By *oxesMan 50 weeks ago
Southend, Essex |
"Look up Torture Garden. Although a kink based club, partaking is optional. It's a great night out just for clubbing as well
Yes TG, also look up Klub Verboten. Techno/fetish party based on the Berlin clubs.
Its members only so you will have to attend one of their socials first or find a member to take you along.
There was briefly a club night called Crossbreed. I never went but followed them on socials.
It was an interesting drama to watch unfold as the event started to implode under their own ultra radical queer politics (their own description used in a job advert) and eventual demise under a sexual assault allegations (a lot of)
Non of that is relevant to your question, but it was interesting to watch
TG and Verboten though are long established and well run events and will be right up your street if you like techno and latex
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How does one good ultra radical queer politics? I thought being gay was a humanistic principle not a political one. Just interested that's all. |
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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago
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"Look up Torture Garden. Although a kink based club, partaking is optional. It's a great night out just for clubbing as well
Yes TG, also look up Klub Verboten. Techno/fetish party based on the Berlin clubs.
Its members only so you will have to attend one of their socials first or find a member to take you along.
There was briefly a club night called Crossbreed. I never went but followed them on socials.
It was an interesting drama to watch unfold as the event started to implode under their own ultra radical queer politics (their own description used in a job advert) and eventual demise under a sexual assault allegations (a lot of)
Non of that is relevant to your question, but it was interesting to watch
TG and Verboten though are long established and well run events and will be right up your street if you like techno and latex
How does one good ultra radical queer politics? I thought being gay was a humanistic principle not a political one. Just interested that's all."
I really don’t know. The clubs words not mine. They seemed to be crossing lines of political activism and kink friendly rave.
Their insta stories were interesting to watch, constantly changing policies and apologising to which ever group they had upset that week.
It seemed in their effort to make an all inclusive queer space they continuely upset certain groups within the community.
By all accounts the parties were great fun and the were an instant success, unfortunately there was a darkness in the core of the organisation that ultimately brought the whole thing down.
They head stepped down publicly stepped away from the business and then shortly after the remaining staff decided to much damage had been done and closed it for good.
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By *irty130Couple 50 weeks ago
Bristol Area |
In Bristol there is “Club Love” which has a similar music-led, strict-dress-code, members-only, theme. It’s strong LGBTQ+ and you have to show how you understand and ally with that to get membership.
We are definitely seeing a lot more “sex-positive” type nights and events popping up, and I think that there is an interesting conversation over how they are licensed when a pure swingers party would be less well tolerated. |
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By *oxesMan 50 weeks ago
Southend, Essex |
"Look up Torture Garden. Although a kink based club, partaking is optional. It's a great night out just for clubbing as well
Yes TG, also look up Klub Verboten. Techno/fetish party based on the Berlin clubs.
Its members only so you will have to attend one of their socials first or find a member to take you along.
There was briefly a club night called Crossbreed. I never went but followed them on socials.
It was an interesting drama to watch unfold as the event started to implode under their own ultra radical queer politics (their own description used in a job advert) and eventual demise under a sexual assault allegations (a lot of)
Non of that is relevant to your question, but it was interesting to watch
TG and Verboten though are long established and well run events and will be right up your street if you like techno and latex
How does one good ultra radical queer politics? I thought being gay was a humanistic principle not a political one. Just interested that's all.
I really don’t know. The clubs words not mine. They seemed to be crossing lines of political activism and kink friendly rave.
Their insta stories were interesting to watch, constantly changing policies and apologising to which ever group they had upset that week.
It seemed in their effort to make an all inclusive queer space they continuely upset certain groups within the community.
By all accounts the parties were great fun and the were an instant success, unfortunately there was a darkness in the core of the organisation that ultimately brought the whole thing down.
They head stepped down publicly stepped away from the business and then shortly after the remaining staff decided to much damage had been done and closed it for good.
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Surly all companies have to be apolitical. If you claim to be sex positive then surly you have to be pro gay rights, anti authotrian. Well the Germans ones are any way. And nothing else otherwise you end up like the corner CEO CrossFit.
"In Bristol there is “Club Love” which has a similar music-led, strict-dress-code, members-only, theme. It’s strong LGBTQ+ and you have to show how you understand and ally with that to get membership.
We are definitely seeing a lot more “sex-positive” type nights and events popping up, and I think that there is an interesting conversation over how they are licensed when a pure swingers party would be less well tolerated. "
You make a pertinent point. I used to think we lived in a society they was royalty open minded (bar a few peeps opinions). After attending a night that got raided by the police over an alcohol license. Reading public opinion and newspaper on swinging and also the regs and restrictions on swinging clubs I have come to a conclusion that we still have a cultural hangover that's preventing people to have an open mind about it. Maybe they don't understand it or uneducated about swinging or have misconceptions.
Where as Germany has had long but uneasy history with sex clubs dating back to the 1920s. Although KitKat is discreet it's not cut off from it's community. In 2020 it was COVID testing and vaccination site. |
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By (user no longer on site) 50 weeks ago
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Surly all companies have to be apolitical. If you claim to be sex positive then surly you have to be pro gay rights, anti authotrian. Well the Germans ones are any way. And nothing else otherwise you end up like the corner CEO CrossFit.
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I’m not so sure. Being pro gay rights should mean you have to align to any political ideology.
You could be a gay, trans, bi whatever and potentially be anything from Liberal, libertarian, conservative, centrist.
Why do you have to be anti authoritarian if pro gay rights? |
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By *oxesMan 50 weeks ago
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Surly all companies have to be apolitical. If you claim to be sex positive then surly you have to be pro gay rights, anti authotrian. Well the Germans ones are any way. And nothing else otherwise you end up like the corner CEO CrossFit.
I’m not so sure. Being pro gay rights should mean you have to align to any political ideology.
You could be a gay, trans, bi whatever and potentially be anything from Liberal, libertarian, conservative, centrist.
Why do you have to be anti authoritarian if pro gay rights?"
It's the history of 'sex - positive', clubs. Many of them were closed down in the 30s because they opposed the ideals oh the NAZIs especially with they're connection to the wider Jazz movement in Germany. In the 90s many parties now clubs were created in spite of the communist regeme in East Germany, The club ideals were defined in the aftermath of the fall of Berlin Wall.
So to answer your question in reality you could be in theory you can be gay and be any political persuasion. However to be Sex-positive you subscribe to an attitude and philosophy that is counter to authoritarianism. |
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By (user no longer on site) 49 weeks ago
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Surly all companies have to be apolitical. If you claim to be sex positive then surly you have to be pro gay rights, anti authotrian. Well the Germans ones are any way. And nothing else otherwise you end up like the corner CEO CrossFit.
I’m not so sure. Being pro gay rights should mean you have to align to any political ideology.
You could be a gay, trans, bi whatever and potentially be anything from Liberal, libertarian, conservative, centrist.
Why do you have to be anti authoritarian if pro gay rights?
It's the history of 'sex - positive', clubs. Many of them were closed down in the 30s because they opposed the ideals oh the NAZIs especially with they're connection to the wider Jazz movement in Germany. In the 90s many parties now clubs were created in spite of the communist regeme in East Germany, The club ideals were defined in the aftermath of the fall of Berlin Wall.
So to answer your question in reality you could be in theory you can be gay and be any political persuasion. However to be Sex-positive you subscribe to an attitude and philosophy that is counter to authoritarianism."
That’s interesting, a bit of history I will have to research.
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How does one good ultra radical queer politics? I thought being gay was a humanistic principle not a political one. Just interested that's all."
We have a lot of gay (male) friends and they are generally as right wing as they come! They are also as sex positive as they come too. |
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How does one good ultra radical queer politics? I thought being gay was a humanistic principle not a political one. Just interested that's all. We have a lot of gay (male) friends and they are generally as right wing as they come! They are also as sex positive as they come too."
Similar experience here with most of the gay friends I’ve known.
The more left leaning or far left I’ve met seem to bi bisexual/queer identifying.
I personally wish politics and sex clubs were completely separated, I feel that’s the only way to have a truly inclusive space.
Welcome whatever you race, sexual identity, religion or lack of it, political beliefs.
But equally I’m a libertarian and think people should also be allowed to create spaces they feel comfortable in, so if they want to involve sex and politics, who am I to complain.
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