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By *i4bicpls OP Man over a year ago

Darwen

I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

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By *udandBryanCouple over a year ago

Boston

Simple case of supply and demand.

If you don't like it, don't go.

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By *i4bicpls OP Man over a year ago

Darwen

"Simple case of supply and demand.

If you don't like it, don't go."

An expected and typical answer.

Try putting yourself in the position of a single man.

Or maybe imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and couples or single ladies had to pay the highest prices.

Then you might actually have a different opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple case of supply and demand.

If you don't like it, don't go.

An expected and typical answer.

Try putting yourself in the position of a single man.

Or maybe imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and couples or single ladies had to pay the highest prices.

Then you might actually have a different opinion."

It is simply that - supply and demand. It’s about business end of the day and as long as single guys are prepared to pay more that’s how it is. Fair? No.

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By *.T.Man over a year ago

Glasgow

If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

Rather than whining about everyone else viewing things from a male perspective, view it from a woman or couples. Fancy being followed round by wanking zombies? Want to meet people who have just gone there to get laid?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Men are charged more because they want the sniff of sex and to walk around being ignored all night. Women are there as sex bait so get in cheaper/ free, whether on their own or in a 'couple'.

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By *ustforshow25Couple over a year ago

Leatherhead

"If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

This.

Higher prices for women/couples would likely mean less in attendance, so a lot of guys are happier to pay the higher price.

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By *i4bicpls OP Man over a year ago

Darwen

"If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

This.

Higher prices for women/couples would likely mean less in attendance, so a lot of guys are happier to pay the higher price. "

Or you charge everyone the same and limit the numbers attending. If a club is more than willing to bulk up numbers of men attending and charge them more, and the result being crowds of men following people around making them feel uncomfortable. Is that not counter productive.

Either way, everyone goes to a club for basically exploring and fulfilling their sexual inhibitions. So why should we all be charged different prices, some are extreme.

I understand the reasoning, but there are other ways of achieving the goal of controlling the number of single men attending a club without financially discriminating against them.

Maybe the club owners need to be more inclusive by making cost equal.

This is why we have the equality act. What's the point of having it, if people are picking and choosing when it applies.

I'm just glad the clubs I visit are more inclusive than some I could mention.

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By *londebiguyMan over a year ago

Southport

The clubs would make no money and close if single men stopped going.

But we know that will not happen so they get ripped off still.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

My detailed answer is in here. The question crops up a lot.

It's legal.

https://fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1465703

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By *.T.Man over a year ago

Glasgow

"If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

This.

Higher prices for women/couples would likely mean less in attendance, so a lot of guys are happier to pay the higher price.

Either way, everyone goes to a club for basically exploring and fulfilling their sexual inhibitions. So why should we all be charged different prices, some are extreme.

I understand the reasoning, but there are other ways of achieving the goal of controlling the number of single men attending a club without financially discriminating against them.

Maybe the club owners need to be more inclusive by making cost equal.

This is why we have the equality act. What's the point of having it, if people are picking and choosing when it applies.

I'm just glad the clubs I visit are more inclusive than some I could mention."

So what criteria do you filter by?

Cock size?

Looks?

First come first served?

Build?

An extensive review and psychometric assessments?

Personal recommendation of a female or couple?

I think you are fighting windmills.

Whichever method is used to control numbers, someone won't be happy about it.

Clubs have to cover overheads, and if charging men more who are willing to pay achieves that then so be it.

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By *wosmilersCouple over a year ago

Heathrowish

Some single guys don't want to pay the higher rate.

There are three choices (sorry to be blunt):

1. Pay up

2. Don't go

3. Get a girlfriend who also wants to go.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it

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By *oulou22Woman over a year ago

Sutton

It could be argued that the costs of attending clubs are higher for women when you take into account outfits, lingerie and all the time and products involved in making ourselves club ready

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By *ixenandhoundCouple over a year ago

Plymouth, South west

I think it evens out a bit, couples pay more than single men and women tend to pay more for their outfits etc, clubs are getting double drinks money from couples as opposed to singles etc...

I see it from both sides, but its just one of those things in life, different rules and costs for guys and gals

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By *i4bicpls OP Man over a year ago

Darwen

"Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it"

There never a guarantee for anything to happen in a club, whether you're male or female.

Maybe ALL singles and couples should pay the same.

There plenty who believe that swinging is also social, and yes you can social outside the clubs.

Other than the sex, clubs also offer saunas, jacuzzi, bar, food and drink in some, and a room/bed to have fun in.

I don't think many would walk away from the club's just because the prices have been equalised.

Many play and meet in clubs because they don't want to take the play home, and want that separation.

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By *i4bicpls OP Man over a year ago

Darwen

"It could be argued that the costs of attending clubs are higher for women when you take into account outfits, lingerie and all the time and products involved in making ourselves club ready "

Not really.

What you wear has nothing to do with the club.

Just like going to a nightclub. We are all charged the same. Regardless of what you wear or your gender. And the same at the bar. Men tend to drink more, but they don't get charged any less.

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By *urboTongue21Man over a year ago

Walsall

Most clubs are private members clubs so the club sets it's own rules including pricing. Totally legal and questionable if they would lose in court.

Political parties work on the same basis.

Most single gender clubs e.g. golf clubs have only allowed female membership because of campaigns for change not legal challenges.

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By *wosmilersCouple over a year ago

Heathrowish

"Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it"

Wrong....

The Equality Act which supercedes the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, applies differently to private members clubs.

Private members clubs would usually fall under the definition of a ‘membership association’ under the Act, rather than being ‘service providers’, if they have 25 or more members and club membership is regulated by rules.

If a club qualifies as a private members club, it can lawfully restrict membership and membership benefits to individuals who share a particular protected characteristic, such as physical or mental disability, gender, sex, sexual orientation, ethnicity, nationality, colour, religion and other protected characteristics.

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By *omtom7Man over a year ago

Tralee

Men are lucky to get in at all. Most would pay twice as much

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By *wosmilersCouple over a year ago

Heathrowish

"Most clubs are private members clubs so the club sets it's own rules including pricing. Totally legal and questionable if they would lose in court.

Political parties work on the same basis.

Most single gender clubs e.g. golf clubs have only allowed female membership because of campaigns for change not legal challenges."

Absolutely...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some single guys don't want to pay the higher rate.

There are three choices (sorry to be blunt):

1. Pay up

2. Don't go

3. Get a girlfriend who also wants to go."

Take the sex bait for a guaranteed fuck and cheaper entry. Win win.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I used to attend a ladies only gym. I payed a lot more the membership than for the mixed ones that were on offer. Nobody forced me to me opt to pay the extra fees, I actively did it because it's where I wanted to go. That's the beauty of freedom of choice

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By *ustforshow25Couple over a year ago

Leatherhead

"If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

This.

Higher prices for women/couples would likely mean less in attendance, so a lot of guys are happier to pay the higher price.

Either way, everyone goes to a club for basically exploring and fulfilling their sexual inhibitions. So why should we all be charged different prices, some are extreme.

I understand the reasoning, but there are other ways of achieving the goal of controlling the number of single men attending a club without financially discriminating against them.

Maybe the club owners need to be more inclusive by making cost equal.

This is why we have the equality act. What's the point of having it, if people are picking and choosing when it applies.

I'm just glad the clubs I visit are more inclusive than some I could mention."

I get where you're coming from, but the fact is they need the women and couples to get the men to attend regardless of the price point, and the easiest way to do that is by offering discounted entry.

How would you propose they set up the entrance to make it fairer?

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By *exy and HotCouple over a year ago

St Albans

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Boringly this topic crops up again and again!

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A man's two year old pair of pants cost far less than a full lingerie set. It all balances out.

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By *omtom7Man over a year ago

Tralee

Two year old pants, look at the big spenders.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

The other methods of controlling single guys tends to lead to a few selected men being invited.

Usually the same guys week after week.

You should raise your point loudly and frequently with everyone in every club that you go to though just to be sure that your point is fully appreciated.

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple over a year ago

Middle England

Go to the clubs that don't charge more for single men. Simple as that. Clubs charge what they deem necessary to cover their overheads.

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By *horty4Man over a year ago

london

This is literally the first time this has ever been discussed here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have been to a club where males pay alot less to get in and guess what. The place was crawling with mouth breathers all expecting things to happen just because they were in a club.

Fast forward to another night where the club charges more and the single gents there are polite and made more of an effort than any of the undateables in the other club.

Not pure science granted but it's pretty obvious you charge a higher price to a market you have more of you are going to out the bad bunch and attract the more serious folk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If the price was same for all, then the numbers inside would likely be more men women ratio. Nobody wants that especially us ugly men who don’t need the competition. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it

There never a guarantee for anything to happen in a club, whether you're male or female.

Maybe ALL singles and couples should pay the same.

There plenty who believe that swinging is also social, and yes you can social outside the clubs.

Other than the sex, clubs also offer saunas, jacuzzi, bar, food and drink in some, and a room/bed to have fun in.

I don't think many would walk away from the club's just because the prices have been equalised.

Many play and meet in clubs because they don't want to take the play home, and want that separation.

You know there's no guarantee of anything hapening, and I know there's no guarantee of anyting happening, but, as with a lot of men joining fab, there's unrealistic expectations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe offering free condoms would help negate the extra cost

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By *hades Of GreyMan over a year ago

Leeds

I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club ...

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Quest in Leeds have a greedy girl night where mf couples and single ladies get free entrance, men pay £30. It's the best night they have!

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS over a year ago

hexham

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS over a year ago

hexham

Erm

Well I kind of enjoy being followed around by wanking zombies and groups of guys who want to use me for sex!

Oooh does that make me really bad?

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club ...

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Quest in Leeds have a greedy girl night where mf couples and single ladies get free entrance, men pay £30. It's the best night they have!"
. In North London we have OP4F.Tuesday is greedy girl night and something similar to Quest single guys £30 couples £20 single girls free.Friday is a normal club night single guys £50 couples £30 single girls free.Saturday is couples with 5-6 select single guys single guys £80 couples £40 single girls free.Tuesday and Friday all both well attended and are both good nights out.Saturday I have not been for a long time but when I did attend they were good nights and from what I hear from other club members are still good nights.

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By *onderWomanWlvWoman over a year ago

Wolverhampton

The Equality Act which supercedes the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, applies differently to private members clubs.

Ahhh, thanks for this explanation - so it's not that they charge single men more, it's that they offer a "membership benefit" of a discounted rate to single women.

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By *g1979Man over a year ago

bexley

I remember at a club where you had a guy complaining to staff that he had paid £40 to get in but no had had sex with him so he wanted a refund.

Funny old world.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Stick to bi male-only events (Townhouse hold these for example), then you’ll pay the same as everyone else in the club.

You’re pretty much guaranteed a fuck too

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple over a year ago

bedford

It costs us married guys lots to dress wives in the clothes they wear , my wife likes to put an effort in when attending clubs , guys may pay £5/10 more for entry , I don’t think that is too much more , I would not complain when attending without my wife , and some nights they pay same amount , we could say why should we pay anything as a couple when single women get in free , the club we use has great facilities (jaydees) so no complaints on price from us

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By *illan-KillashMan over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"Simple case of supply and demand.

If you don't like it, don't go.

An expected and typical answer.

Try putting yourself in the position of a single man.

Or maybe imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and couples or single ladies had to pay the highest prices.

Then you might actually have a different opinion."

As a single man who's visited several clubs, I'm happy to pay a higher entry tariff.

I understand why we tend to pay more and what legislation applies.

If I didn't like it, I wouldn't go.

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By *estinysswingersCouple over a year ago

Worsley

If you’re that upset about it then commence legal action.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If anyone feels that clubs have it all wrong, and you have all the answers.

Why not aim to set up your own club with your own rules.

Surely it'll pay off so well, it'll be worth the venture.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

As a single man who's visited several clubs, I'm happy to pay a higher entry tariff.

I understand why we tend to pay more and what legislation applies.

If I didn't like it, I wouldn't go."

I’ve visited several clubs as a single guy myself, and accept whatever the cost of entry is, it’s my choice whether I pay it or not, for a different experience and surroundings to the usual Friday night out.

I would prefer to be treated as an equal once inside though, something which was sadly lacking on most occasions…

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By *rufflesCouple over a year ago

manchester

"If you aren't a customer, you're the product.

Oversupply of males in clubs mean they can charge what they want. Lets face it, we don't generally go to clubs to socialise, but to try and get laid.

Women know they can go to a club and get laid so why would they want to pay over the odds when they can post a meet on fab and have 200+ messages.

This.

Higher prices for women/couples would likely mean less in attendance, so a lot of guys are happier to pay the higher price.

Either way, everyone goes to a club for basically exploring and fulfilling their sexual inhibitions. So why should we all be charged different prices, some are extreme.

I understand the reasoning, but there are other ways of achieving the goal of controlling the number of single men attending a club without financially discriminating against them.

Maybe the club owners need to be more inclusive by making cost equal.

This is why we have the equality act. What's the point of having it, if people are picking and choosing when it applies.

I'm just glad the clubs I visit are more inclusive than some I could mention."

Clubs are privately owned and provide a service.

Equality act has no bearing on (privately owned) public services.

My wife pays £40++ each visit to her hairdresser ....I pay around £15 to mine....should I stand outside with my "sex equality banner"??

If your not happy....don't go!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Because no one has sued. That's how these things change.

If you're willing to identify yourself by your real name as a swinger who is bothered enough by this to take legal action - in open court in public documents - knock yourself out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The Clubs we attend are 'Private Members

Clubs' and under The Equality Act different rules apply.

It would, however, be illegal to refuse someone membership because of a protected characteristic if it is not directly relevant to the club’s membership entry requirements. For example, a gentleman’s club can refuse to admit a woman but cannot refuse to admit a man as a member because of their sexual orientation.

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

OP, swinging is not a cheap hobby, and sadly many more men are happy to attend swingers clubs than women or couples. Therefore, there has to be the difference in price or the clubs would be overrun by men.

The hairdressing example is a good one- a man pays £10-15, comes in looking like a homeless person, comes out looking like a model (slight exaggeration but you get my point). A woman goes in for just a haircut, comes out looking like nothing has been done, but is at least £40 in. Where is gender equality there?

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By *leasureseekers123Couple over a year ago

Hythe

"The Clubs we attend are 'Private Members

Clubs' and under The Equality Act different rules apply.

Perfectly explained!

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By *lub playCouple over a year ago

Blackpool, At The Crack Of Dawn!!

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By *lub playCouple over a year ago

Blackpool, At The Crack Of Dawn!!

"Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it

Wrong....

The Equality Act which supercedes the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, applies differently to private members clubs.

From a club owners perspective that hears this a lot we are glad someone pointed out its perfectly legal to charge different prices as a private members club for different groups.

True story -

We once did an event and let EVERYONE in free on a Friday with a paid bar, guess what happened next? We got over run with way to many single men, the next one we limit numbers of single men and got the same argument, it was discrimination from the guys who couldn't get in with limited numbers.

The truth is single men are plenty and single ladies are not and why prices in clubs are the way they are. As someone has already said it's the law of supply & demand.

With the greatest respect to those guys who dont like the price's just don't go because it never going to change.

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By *havencoupleCouple over a year ago

Essex

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By *netobeextraMan over a year ago

location varies

OP I hear and I understand the frustration

From experience (appreciate everyone may have different experiences):

Where I’ve been to clubs with low single male entry fees (no place names mentioned) then you’ll tend to find yourself swarmed by a majority of males (very few females or couples). The males tend to follow each other around like wanking zombies, banging doors expecting to be let in to take part in private room action and it may as well be an all male venue

The higher entry fee reduces the single male ratio. The atmosphere is often better. Couples and singles are more likely to chat and engage with you rather than run and hide

For me, it’s a case of you get what you pay for in terms of an entry fee. Although you’re never guaranteed to find compatible partners to you play with whether you pay a higher fee or lower fee, it’s almost certainly a better experience to pay more if there’s a lower male ratio

But that’s just my humble opinion based on my own experiences

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By *ickeyandmouseCouple over a year ago

nr Alicante

"Yes, it is OP.

It IS actually illegal what they're doing - and yes, I have studied the 1975 sex discrimination act to check.

But...

Are you going to be the one to report your local club?

Do ypu want to see them get shut down?

Because ultimately, if they were forced to comply with the law, I doubt many would remain in business for very long.

Why?

Simple, because the reason why women are given preferential treatment is to tempt and encourage them to go along.

As soon as you charge them a fair and equal price to men, you'll find hardly any will turn up.

Which, in turn, will piss off all the men folk who have likely paid their money in the hope of getting some action.

So the men then stop going and the club goes bust.

I'm not saying it's right or acceptable or that I agree with it - but I do get it

Wrong....

The Equality Act which supercedes the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, applies differently to private members clubs.

From a club owners perspective that hears this a lot we are glad someone pointed out its perfectly legal to charge different prices as a private members club for different groups.

True story -

The truth is single men are plenty and single ladies are not and why prices in clubs are the way they are. As someone has already said it's the law of supply & demand.

With the greatest respect to those guys who dont like the price's just don't go because it never going to change. "

Exactly this

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By *uzie_jennifer_2TV/TS over a year ago

near Wembley

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Start your own club charging the same to all attendees, you will have 100 men and no women

Welcome to the real world

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

It's wrong ethically and I hope that during my lifetime, such practices are seen as abhorrent. We should have full equality, of income, opportunities and services, etc

Steeped almost in ancient history, equality laws from the last century still have power. Private clubs were allowed exemptions, that other businesses didn't have.

Clubs may have greater male interest but should look for other ways to manage capacity, as some and other types of businesses do.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

Its definetly discrimination against single men. Especially if a couple can enter a club cheaper then single men. Good thing I dont go to these things as they seem to end up being a sausage fest where it 10 guys to 1 women

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By *ames_SoloMan over a year ago

Birmingham

It's expensive but I've got no problem with it, given the ratio.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its definetly discrimination against single men. Especially if a couple can enter a club cheaper then single men. Good thing I dont go to these things as they seem to end up being a sausage fest where it 10 guys to 1 women "

A couple MF can attend for less as they're still basically 'supplying' a female... Ironically, they would still be bringing the 'sausage fest' numbers down... Go figure

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan over a year ago

Salford

It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

Private clubs are recreation not a work space. And amazingly nobody batted an eye for a very long time when women got paid less... Suddenly its a big issue men have to fork out an extra £20 to lurk in a swingers club?... The horror

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By *eammeupMan over a year ago

Wooburn

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Because it’s a lottery. Some cunts (you) are charged a high amount, other cunts (attached to women) pay less. Simples

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan over a year ago

Salford

"It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

Enter the construction trade, lots of money to be had here over low level and middle level white collar jobs. I know an 18yo labourer that's on £620 a week so theres money to be had.

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan over a year ago

Salford

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Because it’s a lottery. Some cunts (you) are charged a high amount, other cunts (attached to women) pay less. Simples"

I just game it, go with my female mates. I get in for cheaper, they get a bodyguard and they crash at mine. Win win. Guys in there buy the drinks and we go 5050 into the club and taxi home

Guys do that

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By *lub playCouple over a year ago

Blackpool, At The Crack Of Dawn!!

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By *lub playCouple over a year ago

Blackpool, At The Crack Of Dawn!!

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By *lub playCouple over a year ago

Blackpool, At The Crack Of Dawn!!

"It's wrong ethically and I hope that during my lifetime, such practices are seen as abhorrent. We should have full equality, of income, opportunities and services, etc

Steeped almost in ancient history, equality laws from the last century still have power. Private clubs were allowed exemptions, that other businesses didn't have.

Clubs may have greater male interest but should look for other ways to manage capacity, as some and other types of businesses do. "

Under your logic any type of managing of a male ratio would be discrimination so that argument would be null and void straight away.

The reason private members clubs have an exception in law is because they are private in nature for the members and not public like other binssness, it's really that simple.

If that was to change nearly every club in the land would be shut instantly and the whole swinging movement would move to private meets or ungrounded to unsafe unregulated private events.

Please all of you that are complaining we dare you to put your money where you mouths are and open a swingers club yourselves and charge everyone the same and see what happens?

If not just expect it's the way it is and don't attend clubs because its not changing anytime soon because its

just suicidal for any club to even consider it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

Because it’s a lottery. Some cunts (you) are charged a high amount, other cunts (attached to women) pay less. Simples

I just game it, go with my female mates. I get in for cheaper, they get a bodyguard and they crash at mine. Win win. Guys in there buy the drinks and we go 5050 into the club and taxi home

Guys do that"

Do you also purchase couples membership every time with them? Because that seems less cost effective than just stumping up the extra to attend alone to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

Enter the construction trade, lots of money to be had here over low level and middle level white collar jobs. I know an 18yo labourer that's on £620 a week so theres money to be had."

And a body totally screwed by the age of 50.

Work with your head not your strength.

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By *hycouple18Couple over a year ago

Glasgow

We understand what u saying and we agree to a point it should be same price but limited that’s why we try and just go clubs on couples nights now as too many times when we been any other time we been followed about with not just one or two but pack full of single males expecting get laid because they paid over the odds to get in and want something in return for their money and the social part out as they just want sit there with cock in hand hoping someone will help them sometimes we just like go along and chill out not always wanting play and when full guys u can’t even chill as they think female is pice of meat so spoils it for all good single guys who just go along social

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This subject comes up again and again and again, there is always talk of different legislation, but nobody ever seems to mention one bit of legislation which has been around for millennia and to the best of my knowledge has never been repealed. I speak of course of the “LIFE ISN’T FAIR” act.

There never has been, nor in my humble opinion will ever be, a level playing field. There have been ideals around “everyone being equal” such as socialism, but even that was(is) hierarchical.

I have previously been on the scene as a single guy, and yes, there was the disparity in cost of entry to a club for me as a single. As part of a couple, there is disparity between what we pay, and a single lady getting in for free.

There is so much in life where some things cost more than others. As cognitive beings, and living in a democracy, we are blessed with the gift of choice. If you don’t like it, choose not to go. Contrary to the apparently underlying feeling of entitlement in our society, nobody is entitled to things.

If you can gain understanding of the Life Isn’t Fair act you’ll enjoy your life more.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh and that post is from me (Fire) not my lovely lady

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman over a year ago

tf1

"It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

Private clubs are recreation not a work space. And amazingly nobody batted an eye for a very long time when women got paid less... Suddenly it’s a big issue men have to fork out an extra £20 to lurk in a swingers club?... The horror

This.

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By *aribbean King 1985Man over a year ago

South West London

Also men are paying extortionate amount of money to a sex club with no gurantees that they laid in there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Also men are paying extortionate amount of money to a sex club with no gurantees that they laid in there"

There is a difference between a sex club and a swingers club.

At a swingers club nobody is paying for sexual services or obliged to offer them, the entrance cost is to use the club facilities.

If men want a "guarantee" of sex they should either be booking a working girl or paying an exorbitant amount to go to one of the venues or events where they have "hostesses" to ensure all the paying gents get some "action".

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan over a year ago

Salford

"It is true

Companies that do this would be sued.

This. "

Hahaha men always have to pay. That's life. Why I'm very selective on what I spend my money and who on for example with dates it's all 50/50 even when ypu my girl. No free lunch

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

"Also men are paying extortionate amount of money to a sex club with no gurantees that they laid in there"
This is one of the main issues it isn’t a sex club and just because men pay the entry the men that just don’t understand the lifestyle expect sex.

If clubs brought the price down it would be full of men with this kind of attitude.If you want guaranteed sex then visit a brothel .

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Also men are paying extortionate amount of money to a sex club with no gurantees that they laid in there"
. There is a massive difference between a swingers club and a sex club.At a swingers club there has to be a mutual attraction or some sort of conversation / interaction for something sexual to happen.At a sex club the 3-6 single girls that are there are paid to provide a service.These two type of clubs can be hard to spot when you first come on to the swingers scene but as time goes on you notice the difference

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By *ischiefManaged69Couple over a year ago

Preston

"I've noticed single men very often have to pay more to enter a club.

Surely this is sexual discrimination!

There are other ways of controlling the number if single men who enter a club.

At the end of the day single men get the same as everyone else once through the doors.

So why is this practice allowed to continue?

A few people have referenced the laws relating to this, and clarified that it's not illegal, just a system designed to make the most of those in it.

Like any other service, if no one bought it, it would either get cheaper or stop being provided.

First up, no single men bashing. You're just getting answers to a question you asked your fab peers.

If all single men stop going to clubs because they think the pricing is unfair, clubs would have a choice to make.

Like anything you pay for, the choice is yours. You can choose which clubs to go to, or choose not to go. This works the same as where you buy your groceries, and what brands you buy. There's just a much smaller selection of clubs, and you won't die if you don't go!

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

When we’re all said and done, clubs are for couples. Single guys are an extra form of income for the club. Their presence is tolerated, rather than encouraged, for the revenue generated.

Based on my experiences of the club scene, there’s always more single ladies in your average Wetherspoons than any club I’ve been to, and I’ve always felt more welcome there as a single guy.

You pay your money, you take your choice

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By *heshirefungirlWoman over a year ago

ammanford

As a single female who has been attending clubs for over a decade, it was free for single ladies back then anytime of the week.

Now they do charge us something,as the running costs have gone up as has everything else, and there is a lot more single females attending clubs now than there used to be believe me.

As someone who runs a guestlist for an event even with the difference in price for single males, I have to close my single males list over a month before the event due to the huge amount of single males willing to pay the price you are moaning about, this is to try and stand a chance of balance in numbers.

Now these events have a massive single female following but if not managed I will end up with a sausage fest which then puts single female and couples off returning to the event, it's in a swingers club for swingers and not all of these people want 5 plus blokes to every lady in attendance.

So I think although you feel the price difference is unfair the 150 plus blokes willing to pay it to gain entry to an event proves it works for the clubs.

The busy nights at clubs are there bread and butter, on quite nights they don't even cover there running costs (they are not cheap to run).

Equal out the pay difference, you would have to put couples and singles female up (to cover running cost) you would have less single females in attendance and that means less couples though the door (they would attend socials and do home or hotel meets with select single males as not all couples want to meet single males they want a single female for that magic mff) meaning clubs would turn in to sausage fest and loss of business means clubs closing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When we’re all said and done, clubs are for couples. Single guys are an extra form of income for the club. Their presence is tolerated, rather than encouraged, for the revenue generated.

Based on my experiences of the club scene, there’s always more single ladies in your average Wetherspoons than any club I’ve been to, and I’ve always felt more welcome there as a single guy.

You pay your money, you take your choice

I've been to clubs as a couple for years and understand what it can be like been harassed by the none talking wanking dead. Also we have met some amazing single guys over the years.

To flip it last year and this year I have been to clubs as a solo male and as long as you are polite, friendly, clean and fresh with all your own teeth and you actually understand and embrace the swinging lifestyle, thereby treating everyone with respect then you really shouldn't go far wrong.

Good social graces, intelligence and charm are also pretty helpful.

Every time I've attended a club as a solo male I've always been invited to play with couples and had a fantastic time on every visit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally, I believe that if pricing was matched across board, all genders, we'll see a shift in those attending.

First there would be more men with no understanding of swinging, and with the expectation that because they're there and have paid, they will get sex.

Look at some of the comments across the forum that assume that site support means a more guaranteed chance of a meet, for example.

I feel a club may then become oversaturated with opportunists with less actual swinger's, leading to less and less couples and single women visiting.

If men vote with their feet, I believe this may even attract more couples and single women, those that are put off by the opportunists, the wanking dead as they're sometimes referred to.

This I feel isn't far from accurate, and so the current system works.

If an opportunist visits and finds he has no luck, he may not return, whereas the ones that have an understanding of swinging may well get lucky and therefore come back again.

It's a way to steady the flow, and encourage fitting clientele.

This of course is only assumption, one I believe is a safe bet.