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Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times. |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Would have thought a “couples only night” would be the way to go. |
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In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Should have been at Club Play this weekend 80% of the guests were couples xx |
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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago
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I have found the opposite. Far more couples and not so many single guys.
Covid has changed the atmosphere of every club I have visited.
It’s like starting over again and I haven’t yet found my new club “home”.   |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
I need to get myself to these clubs.
Love meeting single men |
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do "
Are saying saying clubs should do this or suggesting that some clubs do?
Hmm.
Either way not the point the OP was talking about. |
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I like the single men and women in clubs so they are the nights I choose to go too, to be fair. So no I’ve not noticed any difference.
Stick to the clubs and nights that cater what you are looking for  |
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"I don’t know if the swinger clubs have changed, but my experience is that they reflect Fab in miniature; mostly couples and single guys, with a very few single ladies…"
You need to expand your club experience them as I've visited loads and every one is different  |
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After swinging for over 20 years, I've found the biggest difference now is that more couples seem to have less tolerance for single men in clubs.
We have always preferred couples and singles nights over couples only, but the amount of nights that exclude guys seems to have grown over the years.
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"I don’t know if the swinger clubs have changed, but my experience is that they reflect Fab in miniature; mostly couples and single guys, with a very few single ladies…
You need to expand your club experience them as I've visited loads and every one is different "
Oh, my forum fan club will confirm I’ve tried a few….. |
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By *bwstarzWoman
over a year ago
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Different nights cater for different people, go couples only nights if the single men are bothering you.
Personally I’ve found more couples going to the nights I tend to go to and that’s not for me, I like the single guys so I actively seek out those events. |
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over a year ago
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
It’s not just married men escaping their wives for a quickie. I knew a local woman who would visit clubs at the weekends, to get as much cock as she could. She would go in as a “single” woman, but she was in fact married. She also used Fab to meet guys during the week, and even had a boyfriend go and stay at hers, while her hubby was away driving his truck…
I don’t know if the swinger clubs have changed, but my experience is that they reflect Fab in miniature; mostly couples and single guys, with a very few single ladies…
Well married men need to be careful their wives don’t find out!"
And for balance, married women need to be careful their husbands don’t find out!
Women who enjoy clubs and male attention are "issues laden?"
Your complaint seems to have a very simple fix, there are plenty of clubs that hold couples only evenings, go to them.
The world is not built for the indivual, it's built for all and while we are all special, many are not as special as they think.
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we are having a problem of not getting enough quality single guys like this Saturday coming, so far we have sold 30 couples tickets 6 single ladies and 0 guys at this moment
so come on guys if your chatty and make an effort come along (but if you just want to hang around the playrooms not talk and socialise your wasting your time )
Emz x  |
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By *ightNWet69Woman
over a year ago
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do "
If clubs are using "willing" ladies aren't they called something else? |
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I absolutely agree with the OP. I went to a club in Leeds yesterday and there must have been 20 single men trailing around behind anyone that looked remotely like a female. No wonder the couples locked themselves in private rooms. I won't be going again. |
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"After swinging for over 20 years, I've found the biggest difference now is that more couples seem to have less tolerance for single men in clubs.
We have always preferred couples and singles nights over couples only, but the amount of nights that exclude guys seems to have grown over the years.
Mr F"
I couldn’t agree more! Visiting clubs as a solo guy, I am limited to when I am ‘allowed’ entry. Out of those times, if you take out BBW events, BMFC events, and bi nights (none of my preferences), I am left with few options. The last thing I want to find when I go in, is mardy couples looking down on me as a solo guy (and I’ve met quite a few) |
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By *harAndBryCouple
over a year ago
Peterborough / Stamford |
We love clubs with single guys due to the way we play. What we have found though is that all club nights are simply far too noisy and "nightclubby" to actually talk to anyone, and most couples seem to only be there for the dancefloor and to fuck in front of people.
We have a much better time at quiet daytime clubs which we find much more sociable.
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Have you considered couples only nights?
Bit I can't help feel this criticism may be club specific |
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What’s an ‘issue laden’ single woman?
As many have said above there are numerous club nights that exclude single men, so if you don’t like them then you’ll easily find what suits you.
We’d all prefer to visit a club and be presented with only what we’re looking for, but unfortunately that’s not how things work. I wish it was.
Being snotty about it and looking down your nose at other folk who don’t tick your boxes won’t help though. |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
When we attended our first one, we were hoping for what you originally described OP, although without even swapping partners. Just wanted to meet like-minded people. Instead it was like a knocking shop with aggressive looking single guys everywhere, a few clique couples, and porn on loop everywhere we looked. We haven’t been to one since  |
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"we are having a problem of not getting enough quality single guys like this Saturday coming, so far we have sold 30 couples tickets 6 single ladies and 0 guys at this moment
so come on guys if your chatty and make an effort come along (but if you just want to hang around the playrooms not talk and socialise your wasting your time )
Emz x "
Internet searching travel 'Aberdeen to this club' right now!  |
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"What’s an ‘issue laden’ single woman?
As many have said above there are numerous club nights that exclude single men, so if you don’t like them then you’ll easily find what suits you.
We’d all prefer to visit a club and be presented with only what we’re looking for, but unfortunately that’s not how things work. I wish it was.
Being snotty about it and looking down your nose at other folk who don’t tick your boxes won’t help though. "
This. ^
Winston |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Interesting. I was thinking of attending Kestrels for the first time on Thursday (my introduction to ‘club culture’) but if it is going to be full of single males, I’ve no wish to be another one. Maybe I’ll put it off for another week or so and have a rethink….. |
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"What’s an ‘issue laden’ single woman?
As many have said above there are numerous club nights that exclude single men, so if you don’t like them then you’ll easily find what suits you.
We’d all prefer to visit a club and be presented with only what we’re looking for, but unfortunately that’s not how things work. I wish it was.
Being snotty about it and looking down your nose at other folk who don’t tick your boxes won’t help though. "
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
As has been said. Go on couples only nights as they're still the norm. It's hard enough for single guys to get into clubs as it is without being tarnished with the same brush as the minority who misbehave. In the last 15 years I've seen unacceptable behaviour far from the male halves of couples and single women just as often as I have single men.
Swinging isn't just for couples. It's an inclusive activity for all. The only thing I think that's changed is the attitude of some in the scene towards others. But that's not exclusive to any particular gender at all.
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Nothing stays the same. It's hard for young single men to sustain relationships. Most don't even have their own accommodation. I love the events that are heaving with beautiful, hungry young men who class themselves as being 'in the lifestyle'. |
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In the last 15 years I've seen unacceptable behaviour from the male halves of couples and single women just as often as I have single men.
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After 30 years of swinging, not until I see women, single or otherwise, trailing after men twerking their Clitoris, and straining on their knees to look through a crack in a closed door desperately trying to get a peek could I agree to the statement above.  |
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"So single women who enjoy playing with guys at clubs are 'issue laden'?
Right "
I thought that too.. not sure what my issues are but I must have loads.
To be fair I've noticed less single guys at clubs recently |
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over a year ago
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"So single women who enjoy playing with guys at clubs are 'issue laden'?
Right I thought that too.. not sure what my issues are but I must have loads.
To be fair I've noticed less single guys at clubs recently "
Must be different at different clubs. I've seen a very high ratio of single guys to couples in a couple of recent visits. |
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"we are having a problem of not getting enough quality single guys like this Saturday coming, so far we have sold 30 couples tickets 6 single ladies and 0 guys at this moment
so come on guys if your chatty and make an effort come along (but if you just want to hang around the playrooms not talk and socialise your wasting your time )
I'd come but its a hell of a drive haha
Emz x "
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I’d disagree - yes there are more single guys, but there are also more coupes too, the ratio has probably stayed about the same. I think the bigger shift had been from dogging to clubs. People are much more likely to go to clubs than digging now because there are so many more clubs - I think a lot of people only went dogging because it was the only way to meet other people, clubs have changed that (for the better in my opinion) |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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In the last 15 years I've seen unacceptable behaviour from the male halves of couples and single women just as often as I have single men.
After 30 years of swinging, not until I see women, single or otherwise, trailing after men twerking their Clitoris, and straining on their knees to look through a crack in a closed door desperately trying to get a peek could I agree to the statement above. "
If you think that is the only negative behaviour that occurs in clubs then I'd suggest in your '30 years' that you've not been to a variety of clubs or paid attention to the behaviour of anyone other than single males.
I've seen women abuse men for turning them down. Women and couple so under the influence that they couldn't possibly make sound judgements on what they were doing. Fights amongst couples because one half was giving too much attention to someone else. Males in couples thinking that because they brought a woman with them that they're entitled to do as they please.
Yes. Nobody denies that some single men behave badly, follow others around and stroll around knob in hand.
But as I've already stated. Negative behaviour isn't the sole domain of the single male.
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"So single women who enjoy playing with guys at clubs are 'issue laden'?
Right I thought that too.. not sure what my issues are but I must have loads.
To be fair I've noticed less single guys at clubs recently
Must be different at different clubs. I've seen a very high ratio of single guys to couples in a couple of recent visits. "
I'd say it depends on which days. I only really go on greedy girls nights or nights that allow single guys...and they are in decline at many clubs. Bare in mind I'm going with the intent to find single guys |
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"we are having a problem of not getting enough quality single guys like this Saturday coming, so far we have sold 30 couples tickets 6 single ladies and 0 guys at this moment
so come on guys if your chatty and make an effort come along (but if you just want to hang around the playrooms not talk and socialise your wasting your time )
Emz x "
This has to be the most positive response for single guys in clubs I’ve ever seen in the forum! I real shame I’m about as far from Dunstable as anyone could be in England I hope your event goes well (great pics btw) |
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do "
And this is precisely why as a single man I do not want to go to swinger clubs.
Swinger clubs marketing themselves as mainly wanting to target couples and single females, yet it's the single men they try to fleece off as cash cows with stupid pricing premium differences.
More than anything else, if couples want nice swinger clubs to swing with others, then they should be ready and willing to pay the right prices to keep such a place going for their benefit and enjoyment. Not expect such places to exist for them to effectively freeload of, and then have single men foot the bill to go there and basically be picked and chosen from like fruits on a supermarket shelf. |
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In the last 15 years I've seen unacceptable behaviour from the male halves of couples and single women just as often as I have single men.
After 30 years of swinging, not until I see women, single or otherwise, trailing after men twerking their Clitoris, and straining on their knees to look through a crack in a closed door desperately trying to get a peek could I agree to the statement above.
If you think that is the only negative behaviour that occurs in clubs then I'd suggest in your '30 years' that you've not been to a variety of clubs or paid attention to the behaviour of anyone other than single males.
I've seen women abuse men for turning them down. Women and couple so under the influence that they couldn't possibly make sound judgements on what they were doing. Fights amongst couples because one half was giving too much attention to someone else. Males in couples thinking that because they brought a woman with them that they're entitled to do as they please.
Yes. Nobody denies that some single men behave badly, follow others around and stroll around knob in hand.
But as I've already stated. Negative behaviour isn't the sole domain of the single male.
A"
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In the last 15 years I've seen unacceptable behaviour from the male halves of couples and single women just as often as I have single men.
After 30 years of swinging, not until I see women, single or otherwise, trailing after men twerking their Clitoris, and straining on their knees to look through a crack in a closed door desperately trying to get a peek could I agree to the statement above.
If you think that is the only negative behaviour that occurs in clubs then I'd suggest in your '30 years' that you've not been to a variety of clubs or paid attention to the behaviour of anyone other than single males.
I've seen women abuse men for turning them down. Women and couple so under the influence that they couldn't possibly make sound judgements on what they were doing. Fights amongst couples because one half was giving too much attention to someone else. Males in couples thinking that because they brought a woman with them that they're entitled to do as they please.
Yes. Nobody denies that some single men behave badly, follow others around and stroll around knob in hand.
But as I've already stated. Negative behaviour isn't the sole domain of the single male.
A"
Absolutely I’ve seen and been on the receiving end of terrible behaviour from couples. I remember one woman was really d*unk and she started hitting her partner over the head with a stiletto.
Single guys can be pushy and a pain but so can couples. |
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do
And this is precisely why as a single man I do not want to go to swinger clubs.
Swinger clubs marketing themselves as mainly wanting to target couples and single females, yet it's the single men they try to fleece off as cash cows with stupid pricing premium differences.
More than anything else, if couples want nice swinger clubs to swing with others, then they should be ready and willing to pay the right prices to keep such a place going for their benefit and enjoyment. Not expect such places to exist for them to effectively freeload of, and then have single men foot the bill to go there and basically be picked and chosen from like fruits on a supermarket shelf. "
Do you think couples drive the prices? The clubs charge these prices to influence the numbers of each demographic in line with what mix they want. If the pricing is so unfair, men will stop going in such numbers, and the clubs will make a decision. No on should expect sex just because they've paid to enter the club.
Don't forget that is the clubs prove single women and couples out of going, the men won't want to go either! |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Clubshave overcharged single men and let un couples at at a reduced price and ladies are often let in for free.
This system has had single men keeping these institutions afloat but end up dismissed and ignored by the couples and single ladies . If a club caters to the needs of single men well done to them.
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do
And this is precisely why as a single man I do not want to go to swinger clubs.
Swinger clubs marketing themselves as mainly wanting to target couples and single females, yet it's the single men they try to fleece off as cash cows with stupid pricing premium differences.
More than anything else, if couples want nice swinger clubs to swing with others, then they should be ready and willing to pay the right prices to keep such a place going for their benefit and enjoyment. Not expect such places to exist for them to effectively freeload of, and then have single men foot the bill to go there and basically be picked and chosen from like fruits on a supermarket shelf. "
My thoughts too… good point succinctly made. |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Clubshave overcharged single men and let un couples at at a reduced price and ladies are often let in for free.
This system has had single men keeping these institutions afloat but end up dismissed and ignored by the couples and single ladies . If a club caters to the needs of single men well done to them.
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Does the price paid for entry cause MF and F to dismiss M? Seems more likely to be behaviour related surely? It's not like all men struggle at clubs ........ |
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do
And this is precisely why as a single man I do not want to go to swinger clubs.
Swinger clubs marketing themselves as mainly wanting to target couples and single females, yet it's the single men they try to fleece off as cash cows with stupid pricing premium differences.
More than anything else, if couples want nice swinger clubs to swing with others, then they should be ready and willing to pay the right prices to keep such a place going for their benefit and enjoyment. Not expect such places to exist for them to effectively freeload of, and then have single men foot the bill to go there and basically be picked and chosen from like fruits on a supermarket shelf.
My thoughts too… good point succinctly made."
We'd be happy to pay whatever a club decides is the entry price, as long as the club meets our needs. We'd prefer a more stringent vetting process, and removal of d*unks from the club. A lot of people complain about showing ID to join so I don't think it's practical! |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common "
as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years "
Just saying I think some of these are much more common and less niche or kink than they used to be viewed as |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years
Just saying I think some of these are much more common and less niche or kink than they used to be viewed as "
I still find it's frowned upon or commented negatively on nights where its not the norm. I've been openly called names for doing a gangbang on a party night x |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years
Just saying I think some of these are much more common and less niche or kink than they used to be viewed as I still find it's frowned upon or commented negatively on nights where its not the norm. I've been openly called names for doing a gangbang on a party night x"
Lots of traditional swingers like the OP probably miss the old dynamic and prefer more couple centric nights |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
Which clubs do you visit, which have “10 or so” single ladies in, “issue laden” or otherwise? I’ve only ever seen 2 or 3 single women whenever I’ve been, and it’s the main reason I don’t visit clubs more often….? |
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"In the current economic climate clubs are having to work harder to stay afloat if this means using "wiling" ladies to entertain single guys paying high entrance fees then that's what they are going to do
And this is precisely why as a single man I do not want to go to swinger clubs.
Swinger clubs marketing themselves as mainly wanting to target couples and single females, yet it's the single men they try to fleece off as cash cows with stupid pricing premium differences.
More than anything else, if couples want nice swinger clubs to swing with others, then they should be ready and willing to pay the right prices to keep such a place going for their benefit and enjoyment. Not expect such places to exist for them to effectively freeload of, and then have single men foot the bill to go there and basically be picked and chosen from like fruits on a supermarket shelf. "
Well said, I enjoy clubs but yes I know I'm being over charged and now I won't go unless I'm meeting somebody. I'm definitely not one of the single guys that follows people around. I would consider I'm the type of single guy clubs would want to encourage but I payed £45 to get into a club a couple of weeks ago and single ladies were £10 ... Where the equality in that ?? |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times."
wow another single men bashing thread but not only that insinuating that they aren't single sheeeeesh  |
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My local club has an evening where single ladies and mf couple's entrance is free, single men charge is £30. Guess what, there's loads of single ladies and couples - and loads of single guys! Great idea. |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years
Just saying I think some of these are much more common and less niche or kink than they used to be viewed as I still find it's frowned upon or commented negatively on nights where its not the norm. I've been openly called names for doing a gangbang on a party night x
Lots of traditional swingers like the OP probably miss the old dynamic and prefer more couple centric nights"
what I'm saying is that in clubs the dynamic hasn't really changed in the 25 years or so I've been going to clubs. It is still on the whole very aimed at couples adding others. |
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"Does anyone else think the whole nature of swinging has changed? I used to enjoy going to a club and meeting another couple or two and swapping partners. Now we go to a club and a hoard of “single” men are there nipping out for two or three hours from their wives in most cases to tag team in and out on 10 or so issue laden single women. It’s like Tinder on speed. Couples seem to be surplus to requirements! I miss the good times.
Go back a few years and swinging used to be mainly wife swapping. The change could be due to more variety and experimentation making threesomes, cuckolding and gangbangs more common as someone that has only really been interested in group and gangbang play I think clubs have always been catering for that. Most clubs, however have very few nights that single guys can get in with decent numbers.. Hence I rarely go to nights that aren't greedy girl events, as find most other nights couples mostly which isn't for me when I'm looking to play. I've been attending clubs over 25 years
Just saying I think some of these are much more common and less niche or kink than they used to be viewed as I still find it's frowned upon or commented negatively on nights where its not the norm. I've been openly called names for doing a gangbang on a party night x"
Can't believe you've been called names! It's a swingers club generally most women go for that kind of thing!.
Back to the ops original post and that just smacks of self entitlement couples who think the scene is for them.
Then theres the single guy bashing as usual! It's a fine line going as a guy! |
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Is there a north south divide? Because the northern clubs we attend have got rid of their couple only events more or less. They used to limit single guys and now it’s almost seems like a stag night atmosphere on some occasions. And a hint of bitterness from me here but the single women that do attend tend to plump for the single men as they, I think, see them as easier than dealing with a couple. But two singles hooking up to me is moving the just of what swinging is! |
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"Is there a north south divide? Because the northern clubs we attend have got rid of their couple only events more or less. They used to limit single guys and now it’s almost seems like a stag night atmosphere on some occasions. And a hint of bitterness from me here but the single women that do attend tend to plump for the single men as they, I think, see them as easier than dealing with a couple. But two singles hooking up to me is moving the just of what swinging is!"
Which Northern clubs do you attend that have 'all' these single women in? The ones I've been to usually only have one or two single ladies in, no matter how much the club 'discounts' their entry fee.....?
And as for those single ladies 'plumping' for the single guys, why wouldn't they? Two-way attraction between two people is just so much easier, nobody 'taking one for the team' etc... Unicorns looking for couples to play with are called unicorns for good reason.... |
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"Is there a north south divide? Because the northern clubs we attend have got rid of their couple only events more or less. They used to limit single guys and now it’s almost seems like a stag night atmosphere on some occasions. And a hint of bitterness from me here but the single women that do attend tend to plump for the single men as they, I think, see them as easier than dealing with a couple. But two singles hooking up to me is moving the just of what swinging is!"
I agree. It seems many singles are ditching the mainstream nightclubs for swinging ones because it's easier for one-night stands & nsa, not having to buy drinks or chat anyone up... It all ties into the hook-up culture of dating sites - think tinder |
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"Is there a north south divide? Because the northern clubs we attend have got rid of their couple only events more or less. They used to limit single guys and now it’s almost seems like a stag night atmosphere on some occasions. And a hint of bitterness from me here but the single women that do attend tend to plump for the single men as they, I think, see them as easier than dealing with a couple. But two singles hooking up to me is moving the just of what swinging is!"
There are lots of parties that are very couples focused. If they’re not near you then you’ll have to travel if you want to go. Otherwise it sounds you’ll be frustrated. |
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"After swinging for over 20 years, I've found the biggest difference now is that more couples seem to have less tolerance for single men in clubs.
We have always preferred couples and singles nights over couples only, but the amount of nights that exclude guys seems to have grown over the years.
Mr F"
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By *yphodMan
over a year ago
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I would say there has been a change in dynamic.
When I started going to clubs 20 odd years ago and the internet was not what it is today so people really has to search or be in the know about these clubs. Single guys where welcomed a little more, couples would chat to a slightly shy single male looking lost and being on your own in a club can be overwhelming.
Now it's easy to find a club very quickly so you get the, might as well give this a go crowd which have given other single guys a bad rep.
But I'd say daytime clubs have become so much quieter these days.
Single male entry in the UK is far cheaper than in Europe mind.
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As a single fem I have noticed a slight change over the years. Seems more so this last year that there's more couples to single guy ratio. I purposely didn't go to an event the other week as there wasn't many single guys on the list
I prefer a club night whe single guys can attend. That's why I go
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There is definitely a lack of single guys post Covid. Maybe it’s the cost? The vibe has definitely changed at some (not all!) clubs and there seems to be more of a social club atmosphere than a swinging atmosphere. Not saying it’s wrong or right but just something we’ve noticed. Some clubs we used to go to we just don’t bother anymore. |
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"There is definitely a lack of single guys post Covid. Maybe it’s the cost? The vibe has definitely changed at some (not all!) clubs and there seems to be more of a social club atmosphere than a swinging atmosphere. Not saying it’s wrong or right but just something we’ve noticed. Some clubs we used to go to we just don’t bother anymore. "
The cost is one issue; for me it’s the best part of a 2 hour drive to get to any club, so I have to add fuel cost, and parking fee (horrendous in Blackpool), to the club entry fee. But there’s hardly any single ladies whenever I’ve been, and there are a lot of couples like the OP, who aren’t interested in single guys. In addition to all this, most clubs aren’t that welcoming for single guys, only tolerating them for the ‘Penis Pound’….
I find it far easier to meet single ladies through Fab, than the cost and palaver (for me personally) of visiting clubs. |
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Sounds like your at the wrong clubs or events!
Never been “hoards” of unwanted single men or over ran with single men at events I’ve been too.
Any decent host will have a well balanced guest list (unless of course the event is aimed at one group being in favour).
Maybe a couples and single ladies night- Cupids and townhouse both have them.
Townhouse is all ticketed at all events so we’ll balanced guest lists.
The parties are better than ever IMO xx |
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"Is there a north south divide? Because the northern clubs we attend have got rid of their couple only events more or less. They used to limit single guys and now it’s almost seems like a stag night atmosphere on some occasions. And a hint of bitterness from me here but the single women that do attend tend to plump for the single men as they, I think, see them as easier than dealing with a couple. But two singles hooking up to me is moving the just of what swinging is!"
Swingings whatever anyone wants it to be and clubs are open to all.
Defo sounds like you need to check out new events if your thinking stag night vibes. (And tell me where this is/ what event it is cos I wanna go!) haha
I’ve met you both so absolutely know how brill you are- but comments like this are the reason I avoid couples. Single men aren’t “easier”, I’m just not into the dynamics of legit couples. Group play with men and women yes - but I’m not happy to be the 3rd with a couple and explaining that over and over again to couples in clubs who expect me to be a unicorn isn’t fun xx |
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We have not found this to be the case if you select the correct night. At the Hellfire Club the Saturday night couples night is fabulous. At Abfabs the clientele is male dominated on a Friday, at times, but on couples night it works really well. |
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By *olf and RedCouple
over a year ago
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We have found there are less single men than there were pre covid. Definitely seems to be more couples whenever we go. We have also found that for the most part the single men are respectful.
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