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"I think it has always been the case, not just lately"  | |||
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"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." It’s supply and demand. It’s a policy deliberately used to make for a more balanced clientele and reduce the amount of Wanking Dead that can be seen at clubs | |||
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"Supply and demand. " Nice rack | |||
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"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." If the prices was the same there would be mostly men. It would would then just be a party full of men. I'm guessing that's what most men pay for? | |||
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"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. " Same | |||
"I think it has always been the case, not just lately" Yes that's the way it is. Been visiting various clubs since the 90's and it's an unfortunate fact. | |||
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"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair. It’s supply and demand. It’s a policy deliberately used to make for a more balanced clientele and reduce the amount of Wanking Dead that can be seen at clubs" Wanking dead has made me laugh uncontrollably for 5 minutes  | |||
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"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her" My apologies, I left out a very important group, all those lovely people who express their gender in all forms in clubs as their safe space. Men, women, and all those in-between. I see you, clubs just aren't for those as above  | |||
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"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her" And this is the reason single guy prices are fine the way they are! We've never had a bad experience with a single woman. Only a couple and single males. Seems to us that the male sex is the one that needs to be restricted in clubs. Ax | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same" You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.  | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go. "Desperation and deep pockets I guess. It's a powerful motivator | |||
"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her" Women are terrible for sexual assault in clubs. They assume they can grope anyone they want and people just laugh. It's still assault if there is no consent. | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." It's always been that way. The women are sex bait. The men pay £££ for a sniff of pussy.  | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
Desperation and deep pockets I guess. It's a powerful motivator "But we could all go to the pub. | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." The aim is to try to keep the number of single guys down and the number of ladies up. Nobody is ever put off clubs because there are too many women, but plenty are deterred by too many men | |||
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"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
Desperation and deep pockets I guess. It's a powerful motivator
But we could all go to the pub. "Agreed! Meet you there in a hour buddy | |||
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"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her Women are terrible for sexual assault in clubs. They assume they can grope anyone they want and people just laugh. It's still assault if there is no consent. " this is so so true see it all the time .. also its very rare to see a single guy step out of line but not so rare for the men of couplers whos entitlement stinks many clubs out ... but nobody will say this or admit it because it put women and couples in a bad light ... at the end of the day the couples rule the clubs ..why do they want no single men ?? so the male half of couples can fill there boots or try | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. " 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. | |||
"I do think they should be the same. For people saying they would become over run with men surely they could limit numbers." Doesn't work. It's a policy often used but then people complain that first come first served is unfair, vetting is discriminatory and the only other option is to draw straws. This discussion has been going on since clubs have been in existence and still nobody has come up with a viable means to balance numbers. Is the cost system fair? No. But it works better than most mechanisms. If as many single women wanted to attend clubs as single men there'd be no need for price disparity. Until that time comes........... A | |||
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"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
Desperation and deep pockets I guess. It's a powerful motivator
But we could all go to the pub.
Agreed! Meet you there in a hour buddy "I am on my way. And people struggle with organising a social? | |||
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"Clubs could probably charge any amount they liked and the desperate single men would still come. Trouble is they'd also think that because they'd paid loads they are in some way entitled, which would probably cause more problems. " Some men have that sense of entitlement when they get in for free. Some men have that sense of entitlement on here. Some men have that sense of entitlement in a relationship. It may encourage a few to feel more entitled but the type of guy with that mentality would most likely expect something just because they've walked through the door. It amazes me that some people think club entry fees are outrageous yet will pay two or three times that amount just to watch men kick a ball for 90 minutes. And will happily blow that down the pub on a Saturday night without questioning the price of a pint and just accepting it. A A | |||
"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her Women are terrible for sexual assault in clubs. They assume they can grope anyone they want and people just laugh. It's still assault if there is no consent. this is so so true see it all the time .. also its very rare to see a single guy step out of line but not so rare for the men of couplers whos entitlement stinks many clubs out ... but nobody will say this or admit it because it put women and couples in a bad light ... at the end of the day the couples rule the clubs ..why do they want no single men ?? so the male half of couples can fill there boots or try" | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. " The idea that the single guys are keeping the clubs afloat is a little misguided. If there were no couples or single ladies, then the blokes would bother going either. Single ladies are in high demand and low supply so getting them into your club increases the number of guys & couples that will attend. There are plenty of couples & ladies only nights at most clubs, they have no issue with attendance. Cak | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. The idea that the single guys are keeping the clubs afloat is a little misguided. If there were no couples or single ladies, then the blokes would bother going either. Single ladies are in high demand and low supply so getting them into your club increases the number of guys & couples that will attend. There are plenty of couples & ladies only nights at most clubs, they have no issue with attendance. Cak" Yep. There's a club in Swindon that does men only nights too. Everyone gets charged the same on that night so all the guys unhappy about other club prices should maybe head there?
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" The higher the door entry the more genuine and respectful the clientele hopefully should be! Safety for all" Personally, I don't think this works at all. If anything trying to price out undesirables may have the opposite effect, guys who pay significantly more arrive expecting significantly more | |||
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" The higher the door entry the more genuine and respectful the clientele hopefully should be! Safety for all Personally, I don't think this works at all. If anything trying to price out undesirables may have the opposite effect, guys who pay significantly more arrive expecting significantly more " | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." You just noticed that? Swingers clubs always have done this, and yes it is unfair. The excuse is that that it keeps the single males numbers down which is utter bullshit because they have always restricted single men in numbers and on what nights they allow them to attend. The real reason is because they want to entice couples and single women through the doors without prices and in most cases single ladies are free. Realistically that gives them no profit margin so they calculate the shortfall then up the price for single men to compensate. | |||
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"Otherwise it would be a sausage fest, and probably still is" Nothing to do with keeping nu.bers down they have always restricted single mens numbers that's easy to do.your paying the shortfall created fir letting couples and single women cheaply or for free | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair. You just noticed that? Swingers clubs always have done this, and yes it is unfair. The excuse is that that it keeps the single males numbers down which is utter bullshit because they have always restricted single men in numbers and on what nights they allow them to attend. The real reason is because they want to entice couples and single women through the doors without prices and in most cases single ladies are free. Realistically that gives them no profit margin so they calculate the shortfall then up the price for single men to compensate. " That is very interesting to know. | |||
"Used to go to a nightclub/bar in town that was the place to be at one point. Got to the point that after 9 (heaving by then) no entry for single men. Women are the bait like it or not. Lady bits make money, male bits do not. If you can’t get women in the club (which you won’t if it’s 95% full of blokes) then men won’t visit even if it’s free." | |||
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"Ok cool, charge the single guys the same as single women. Watch the club become full of single guys, as no couple's or single women would be confident enough to go. Personally, I think there should be more hoops for single guys to jump to be let into places like this. I've never been sexually assaulted by a single female in a club, for example.. But that's just my opinion. Do you go to clubs at all, OP? her" Any club that charged the same as woman coukd easily set a cap at single male attendance. They do this anyway. As I have said earlier single men are subsidising the single women and couples. I won't go to a club unless I am meeting someone I know because otherwise I will be just another ignored man of many. It's not worth the outlay. | |||
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"It's actually illegal for clubs to charge more to access the same services based on sex/gender because of the Equalities Act 2010. Same law that has banned ladies nights or reduced price drinks for ladies in bars and nightclubs. Who's going to be the first to take a club to court though? No-one, as then it outs them as a swinger and will be on public record for all to see. And clubs know that. Proverbial house of cards though, first one goes and the whole lot will come tumbling down." You know I just might look into this. And while I don't advertise my swinging I don't deny it either I know the very club I might go after too. | |||
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"It's actually illegal for clubs to charge more to access the same services based on sex/gender because of the Equalities Act 2010. Same law that has banned ladies nights or reduced price drinks for ladies in bars and nightclubs. Who's going to be the first to take a club to court though? No-one, as then it outs them as a swinger and will be on public record for all to see. And clubs know that. Proverbial house of cards though, first one goes and the whole lot will come tumbling down." It's the same with car insurance no longer being able to be charged based in sex. However does the equalities act apply to private member's clubs? I'm not sure.. Also health insurance is still allowed to charge higher premiums for pre existing conditions which technically would be disability discrimination... It's a legal minefield and I'm not legally minded enough to decipher it so I'll leave that to the experts but there needs to be some form of continuity regarding the above Ax | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go. "What? Refuse a (possibly slight) chance of getting their dicks wet? Like that's ever going to happen! | |||
"However does the equalities act apply to private member's clubs? I'm not sure.." I'm not a legal expert either, but I believe a private club constitutes a club that has strict membership requirements and has more than 25 members. I've seen arguments that simply charging for membership without any other requirements does not constitue a private members club, only a service provider with different rules. Nothing I've read on this subject would allow swinging clubs to conduct business in the way they do. If there are any legal minded folk on here I'd be interested to hear what their take on this is? | |||
"However does the equalities act apply to private member's clubs? I'm not sure.. I'm not a legal expert either, but I believe a private club constitutes a club that has strict membership requirements and has more than 25 members. I've seen arguments that simply charging for membership without any other requirements does not constitue a private members club, only a service provider with different rules. Nothing I've read on this subject would allow swinging clubs to conduct business in the way they do. If there are any legal minded folk on here I'd be interested to hear what their take on this is?" We'd be really interested to hear a legal beagles opinion too. Would help to put other things in perspective | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
What? Refuse a (possibly slight) chance of getting their dicks wet? Like that's ever going to happen! "I think as the cost of living hits and those that do stump up realise how little chance they have compared to a hook up on tinder or a nightclub that might just happen. Who wants to pay 80 odd quid or more to bring your own drinks or pay overpriced bar fees to be ignored all night? If you want sex and are happy to pay fir it hire an escort for the same money. I wonder how many clubs close down because of this or who are struggling? | |||
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"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
What? Refuse a (possibly slight) chance of getting their dicks wet? Like that's ever going to happen!
I think as the cost of living hits and those that do stump up realise how little chance they have compared to a hook up on tinder or a nightclub that might just happen.
Who wants to pay 80 odd quid or more to bring your own drinks or pay overpriced bar fees to be ignored all night? If you want sex and are happy to pay fir it hire an escort for the same money.
I wonder how many clubs close down because of this or who are struggling?"£80???? Really? That’s double the single male price of any club I’ve ever been to But yeah. If you just want sex, go hire a sex worker. Leave clubs for those who want a social connection with their filth and depravity | |||
"This is why I don’t go. I’m cheap. Same You just wouldn’t would you? Why don’t men just refuse. Don’t go.
What? Refuse a (possibly slight) chance of getting their dicks wet? Like that's ever going to happen!
I think as the cost of living hits and those that do stump up realise how little chance they have compared to a hook up on tinder or a nightclub that might just happen.
Who wants to pay 80 odd quid or more to bring your own drinks or pay overpriced bar fees to be ignored all night? If you want sex and are happy to pay fir it hire an escort for the same money.
I wonder how many clubs close down because of this or who are struggling?"£55 was the limit I would pay to visit a club (before I gave up on that scene), because that was the price of a day rate hotel room I could share with a friend. No way would I ever pay £80…… | |||
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"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest." “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever | |||
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"It's actually illegal for clubs to charge more to access the same services based on sex/gender because of the Equalities Act 2010. Same law that has banned ladies nights or reduced price drinks for ladies in bars and nightclubs. Who's going to be the first to take a club to court though? No-one, as then it outs them as a swinger and will be on public record for all to see. And clubs know that. Proverbial house of cards though, first one goes and the whole lot will come tumbling down." such a grey area but only takes one to take it all the way ... Equality is for all not just women | |||
"If the ladies had to pay same as us they might not come in. Then it's just men. I think single ladies should be free. Hopefully encourage more in. " you are the perfect gent we like in clubs, SOME (minority) guys think it is a brothel and sex is on tap (believe me I know, by the calls I answer) and don’t understand the meaning of swinging. Years ago swingers were mainly couples, over time single ladies and gents have joined the scene. Now though you find a lot of single men sit around the club expecting fun to come to them without sitting and chatting to couple or single females. | |||
"This comes up so often. Don't like it? Don't go. Or look at it like this: the single guy price is "the price". Couples and single women simply get a discount. No-one bats an eyelid when OAPs or under 16s get a discount at the cinema, hairdresser's, on busses, at theme parks and all sorts of other places. Well put. It's also a catch 22. Single men do attract couples looking for single men and couples attract the single men. (Bry)" | |||
"If the ladies had to pay same as us they might not come in. Then it's just men. I think single ladies should be free. Hopefully encourage more in. you are the perfect gent we like in clubs, SOME (minority) guys think it is a brothel and sex is on tap (believe me I know, by the calls I answer) and don’t understand the meaning of swinging. Years ago swingers were mainly couples, over time single ladies and gents have joined the scene. Now though you find a lot of single men sit around the club expecting fun to come to them without sitting and chatting to couple or single females. " thank you xxx | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever " Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A" excellent well said | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A" So mu h truth in this post. We know a number of amazing single males who are genuine swingers, who live and embrace the swinging scene and are absolute assets to their local clubs. KJ | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A" Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience?" Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A | |||
"Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience?" I can answer that one. My first night was an educational one, but you wouldn't call it "cracking". I wasn't expecting to play, and didn't. I did, however, see potential, and kept going regularly. After a while I had settled in, was comfortable there, and had got to know a few people. The night that I first found the courage to ask someone if they wanted to play turned out to be a very very good night. I have continued to have very good nights there ever since (even the days when I'm not feeling so good and just sit quietly in the corner - the club is now my happy place, and I enjoy seeing my friends enjoying themselves). | |||
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"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A" But you would agree that you wanted to go back, after your first "cracking night", because you had a great time, possibly had sex, but overall, the staff and other attendees made you feel welcome, and included? | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair. It’s supply and demand. It’s a policy deliberately used to make for a more balanced clientele and reduce the amount of Wanking Dead that can be seen at clubs" What's more balanced about pricing some out of the experience. More screwing single guys for as much as they can. Are you claiming those with money are more respectable and those without are deadheads? A very simplistic view on the world. Talking other scenarios, those 'have' become somehow "entitled" yet, 'have nots' are the nicest people you can meet. Raffles, waiting lists and sure plenty other ways of stopping them getting swamped than ripping people off. Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities. | |||
" Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities." It doesn't stand up. | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A But you would agree that you wanted to go back, after your first "cracking night", because you had a great time, possibly had sex, but overall, the staff and other attendees made you feel welcome, and included? " I have been swinging on and off since the 90s but my interests was long before that in the days of the old contact mags. I met a couple and became friends with them and we used to explore clubs and we always noticed rhe difference of how men were treated. So I am not some bloke trying to get a shag for free o genuinlyndo love the lifestyle. My last club visit was Le Bodouir in London and types it was£80 to get in. And let's just say they were not particularly friendly or welcoming. It has got strmeadily worse over the years so these days I tend ro try the socials and occasionally cine on here for the forums. Clubs are now trying to make as much money out of single guys as possible specially in London. That's why I tend to advise single guys not to do them a social is way better. | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A But you would agree that you wanted to go back, after your first "cracking night", because you had a great time, possibly had sex, but overall, the staff and other attendees made you feel welcome, and included? " I have been swinging on and off since the 90s but my interests was long before that in the days of the old contact mags. I met a couple and became friends with them and we used to explore clubs and we always noticed rhe difference of how men were treated. So I am not some bloke trying to get a shag for free o genuinlyndo love the lifestyle. My last club visit was Le Bodouir in London and types it was£80 to get in. And let's just say they were not particularly friendly or welcoming. It has got strmeadily worse over the years so these days I tend ro try the socials and occasionally cine on here for the forums. Clubs are now trying to make as much money out of single guys as possible specially in London. That's why I tend to advise single guys not to do them a social is way better. | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A But you would agree that you wanted to go back, after your first "cracking night", because you had a great time, possibly had sex, but overall, the staff and other attendees made you feel welcome, and included? " Of course I did. But as previously stated and clearly explained. I'd have gone back anyway unless the venue itself was shit. Or I'd have (as I also did) go to another club. Rather than bin off the idea of clubs full stop as you're suggesting had that first night not been good. Would you stop meeting women just because you had a bad experience with one? Would you never eat out again due to a bad experience at one specific restaurant? Would you never buy a car again because one once turned out to be a heap of shit soon after purchase? If you make a life decision based on one experience you're going to struggle. A | |||
" Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities. It doesn't stand up." Positive discrimination. It's permitted to promote attendance by a group that would otherwise not attend. It's been debated many times before. A | |||
"I don't mind the price difference, it's single guys who keep the business afloat. My problem is the facilities are not the same once you're in. Firstly I'm not a seasoned club goer and probably never will be, but the two I've been to were vastly different in what they provided for single guys. I went on NYE and was shown around, all's as it should be until it comes to changing rooms. Women and couples had a purpose built changing room with nice big lockers with space to move and the guys one was nothing more than an afterthought in the dungeon, with tiny lockers you can just about fit your coat in and nothing else. Didn't feel very welcoming to me and needless to say I didn't take advantage of the dress down side of the venue because I wasn't about to leave all my clothes lying about in the dungeon for any old Tom, Dick or Harry to get their hands on. 'single males' get treated differently in swinging clubs. And most of the treatment is not very friendly either to be honest. “Fantastic! A single guy!” ……said no club ever Bullshit. I was a nervous wreck the first time I went to a club as a single guy at the now no longer there 'Lodge' in Gloucester. I was welcomed by all, given a tour and after a cracking first night became a regular, an occasional host and helped run many a night. I went to several clubs as a single male and not once felt shunned, sidelined or unwelcome. People generally are treated based on how they interact and behave. If someone doesn't have the social skills to engage with others then that's hardly the fault of a club. If they put little effort into conversing with others and instead choose to lurk in corners, follow people round or act in a pushy, expectant manner then it won't be a surprise when they're made to feel less welcome. Clubs love single guys. Many couples (us included) pretty much only looked to play with single guys. Single women love single guys. What people don't like is a certain type of single guy, whose behaviour warrants the attitude shown towards then. The single guys that enjoy clubs will rarely be found shouting about it in the forums. They're too busy enjoying life. The ones who winge the most are generally those that have had negative experiences in clubs and quite often that experience isn't the fault of the club or other attendees. A Would it be fair to assume your love of the club scene stemmed from that “cracking first night” at the now defunct club? Would you have gone again, if you hadn’t had such a positive experience? Nope. That was one club. In my first year of visiting clubs I went to 7. As a single guy. And had a good time in all. Had I not had as good an experience I'd have tried to work out why. If it was down to that specific club, it's staff and/or facilities I'd have tried another. If it had been down to the clientele that night I'd have gone again on a different night. It's relatively easy to identify an issue with bricks and mortar, fixtures and fittings and what a club has onsite to entertain guests. It's just as easy to put blame on other attendees if they act like dicks, aren't welcoming and are in any way abusive. Of course you may just not 'click with a certain club. But if it's not for either of the two reasons above then the reason for a bad club experience will often lie closer to home. A But you would agree that you wanted to go back, after your first "cracking night", because you had a great time, possibly had sex, but overall, the staff and other attendees made you feel welcome, and included? Of course I did. But as previously stated and clearly explained. I'd have gone back anyway unless the venue itself was shit. Or I'd have (as I also did) go to another club. Rather than bin off the idea of clubs full stop as you're suggesting had that first night not been good. Would you stop meeting women just because you had a bad experience with one? Would you never eat out again due to a bad experience at one specific restaurant? Would you never buy a car again because one once turned out to be a heap of shit soon after purchase? If you make a life decision based on one experience you're going to struggle. A" We'll never know whether you would have binned off the idea of visiting other clubs, because you had such a great first time experience, which don't get me wrong, is great! Can I ask, how long ago that was? My decision to not visit clubs as a single guy again, is based on 16 visits across 7 clubs. I would happily visit as a couple though, as I have on 4 occasions, to 3 different clubs. I'm sure other people would agree, that going in as a couple, the male half receives a much warmer reception than that of a single male. | |||
"We read Female porn stars get paid 10 times that of Male porn stars. Maybe that's not fair too?" It is unfair. However in real life terms the amount of women in porn outnumber the men despite the fact that its far easier to oreform as a woman on camera than a man. Men that can get a hard on and keep it through a long scene under direction are very rare so their careers tend to be longer than women | |||
" Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities. It doesn't stand up." Tesco lost charging more for pink children's clothes. You have undeniable proof it wouldn't stand being tested in court? No entity is immune from discrimination laws, just no-one has tested it. | |||
" Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities. It doesn't stand up. Tesco lost charging more for pink children's clothes. You have undeniable proof it wouldn't stand being tested in court? No entity is immune from discrimination laws, just no-one has tested it." Students get discounts. OAP's get discounts. Whilst never being tested in court as yet it would be quite easy to argue that men aren't being overcharged and are in fact being charged the standard rate, whilst single women and couples are being charged a reduced rate to encourage attendance - ergo positive action to encourage higher levels of participation by groups that would otherwise not attend due to over attendance of single men should ther be price parity. And positive action is permitted under the Equalities Act. A | |||
" Still wonder where it would stand in an Equalities investigation, and before you it's said, they do cover private entities. It doesn't stand up. Got it yet? Tesco lost charging more for pink children's clothes. You have undeniable proof it wouldn't stand being tested in court? No entity is immune from discrimination laws, just no-one has tested it." I don't think you do irony so let me explain. Some Gents don't want to pay the entry fee for a club. Therefore they don't go. They don't have fun. "It" doesn't stand up. Got it yet? | |||
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"This has literally NEVER been mentioned before…. " Of course,the easiest way to get cheaper entry fees is to take a friend | |||
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"What if I identify as a woman?" At most clubs you’ll be charged as whatever sex you are legally. Your gender will be irrelevant. | |||
"This has literally NEVER been mentioned before…. Of course,the easiest way to get cheaper entry fees is to take a friend "You’re also better welcomed as the male of a couple, than just as a single guy | |||
"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." You’ve only just noticed it?! Life isn’t fair, get over it!! | |||
"This has literally NEVER been mentioned before…. " There are lots of subjects that are mentioned lots of times, it doesn't make it any less valid | |||
"Otherwise it would be a sausage fest, and probably still is" I suppose they could limit the amount of single men , it would be easy to do | |||
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"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair." Would it be fairer to put women off by having the vast majority people who turn up are men? | |||
"We like a drink when we go to the club which we do regularly because it’s cheaper than going to the pub and is for single guys too. Example… our local club. … £15 entry for single guys(or couples)… £10 if you get there before 6pm. So £10 entry… 8 pint cans of beer from supermarket is another £10. Free membership. No corkage charge. You’ve had 8 pints in a swingers club for £20. You find a pub where you can get 8 pints for £20." Which club is this? (Bry) | |||
"We like a drink when we go to the club which we do regularly because it’s cheaper than going to the pub and is for single guys too. Example… our local club. … £15 entry for single guys(or couples)… £10 if you get there before 6pm. So £10 entry… 8 pint cans of beer from supermarket is another £10. Free membership. No corkage charge. You’ve had 8 pints in a swingers club for £20. You find a pub where you can get 8 pints for £20. Which club is this? (Bry)" not sure I can name it in the forum as it could be construed as advertising but our profile and veris make it obvious if that helps | |||
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"not sure I can name it in the forum as it could be construed as advertising but our profile and veris make it obvious if that helps" Got ya. Ta
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"What if I identify as a woman? At most clubs you’ll be charged as whatever sex you are legally. Your gender will be irrelevant. " A lot of clubs nowadays are taking the approach that whatever is shown on your legal ID (ie driving licence) is how you're treated. | |||
"What if I identify as a woman? At most clubs you’ll be charged as whatever sex you are legally. Your gender will be irrelevant. A lot of clubs nowadays are taking the approach that whatever is shown on your legal ID (ie driving licence) is how you're treated." Yes, but most can only be changed if you legally change your gender. So if he’s saying ‘what if I identify as female’ - that will be irrelevant if he’s still legally a male | |||
"A few clubs I attend limit the number of single guys so why not charge them similar to others " We do this | |||
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"Exactly why The Playgrounds charge the same price for anyone, irrelevant of what in their pants. Equality. Single guys are set at a comfy ratio and have to be verified " Sounds great in theory but here's the crunch. Is it first come first served? Which penalises those who can't make plans far ahead in the future and may make a last minute decision. It also discriminates against those new to the scene as they won't be verified. How do you set a ratio unless you're only taking advanced booking - you won't know how many single women and couples may make last minute bookings or turn up on the night, hence you'll either have a flawed ratio or you'll have to leave single guys waiting in a real or virtual queue til enough single fems and couples arrive. What happens if the first few guys allowed in are dicks and you've excluded some really good guys because of the planned 'ratio'? What happens if couples and single women leave the club early - the ratio will be single guy heavy by later in the night. Just playing devils advocate of course and there's no perfect solution - but applying the equal pricing rule and working to ratios isn't 'equality' by any stretch of the imagination either.
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"I have noticed lately." Judging by the number of times this topic has been started, I think it's been forever. | |||
"I think it is unfair but then again if it was same price for everyone then the place would be filled with guys. Which some girls might enjoy "Sometimes single male entry is cheaper on "greedy girls night" than other nights. | |||
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"I have noticed lately. That most swinging clubs are charging 'single males' twice the entrance fee to that of a 'single female' Just my opinion, but, that is totally unfair. It’s supply and demand. It’s a policy deliberately used to make for a more balanced clientele and reduce the amount of Wanking Dead that can be seen at clubs" | |||
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"Yes it does seem unfair. However for me if it was more I'd not go. I have no problems getting meets, party invites, socials etc so if entrance fees went up I'd just stick to private meets. If every woman has that view would the club be better for you at that reduced rate?" Clubs would end up being couples only. There’s so few single women go as it is, if none went eventually all the single guys would stop. | |||
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"Men pay 100 % ladies and couples get a discount. If this attracts them in then great. If not it's just a social club for men in pants. Not a place I want to go to really. I'd be happy if couples had a charge scale for example a bigger discount for those who are looking to play with single men as opposed to the ones only after other couples. Maybe a voucher system for single men where they get 1/2price admission on the 3rd visit providing there's no complaints about him. Plenty of options for clubs to look at. Of course this is only my opinion. " our local club charges the same for couples as single men and anybody that visits during the week gets free entry on that Sunday | |||
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